Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Hookeysmith on April 16, 2012, 08:51:21 AM
-
I know its nothing new but yestedray got my blood boiling - when the diving girl Young fell over they were discussing his "tactics" of over the top theatrics
The one of the commentators said - "who knows he probably learned that from Villa"
They were good and we were bad but we did not need them getting a helping hand from that twat Halsey
-
You could tell that the commentator was desperate for them to win. You'd think they'd want them to lose so Man City could make the title race exciting, but for some reason they do love Manure.
-
I know its nothing new but yestedray got my blood boiling - when the diving girl Young fell over they were discussing his "tactics" of over the top theatrics
The one of the commentators said - "who knows he probably learned that from Villa"
They were good and we were bad but we did not need them getting a helping hand from that twat Halsey
I heard this too, and it was not just that little snippet either, "Gardner recieves the ball for them..." FOR THEM ffs !
UTV
The Doc
-
You could tell that the commentator was desperate for them to win. You'd think they'd want them to lose so Man City could make the title race exciting, but for some reason they do love Manure.
The reason is money. Newton Heath attract viewers, that attracts advertisers, that makes money. Hence the recruitment of Neville, it's hardly down to his insightfull analysis of the game is it. We and many other clubs only exist as opposition, cannon fodder.
-
On SSN this morning it said "Comfortable Victory" in the menu bar at the bottom
-
On SSN this morning it said "Comfortable Victory" in the menu bar at the bottom
No mention of "filthy cheating" then?
-
Unfortunately we are part of the problem, whilst most of us subscribe to Sky we feed the beast that is slowly killing the National Sport. It is a corrupt state of affairs where money and power will support the 'top clubs' in the Premier League to the detriment of real competition and equality of opportunity.
I hate the Premier League but love my club- I would hope that all those outside the top 6 would one day have the balls to seperate and form an alternative league where TV is not involved, competition and success is based on match form not on finance held and that supporters claim back the game as theirs.
I know, taxi to cloud cuckoo land for me.
-
Never mind Sky, what about the ref? The worst bit for me was when Clark went down with an obvious head injury and he let play continue as Man u were attacking. The second we got the ball back he stopped the game.
-
Never mind Sky, what about the ref? The worst bit for me was when Clark went down with an obvious head injury and he let play continue as Man u were attacking. The second we got the ball back he stopped the game.
THIS!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
I was fuming! Had it happened to a UTD player Halsey would have stopped the game instantly. I loved the way Evra ran for a full 10/20yards before falling to the ground holding his shoulder. Even then their stupid players carried on.
-
Never mind Sky, what about the ref? The worst bit for me was when Clark went down with an obvious head injury and he let play continue as Man u were attacking. The second we got the ball back he stopped the game.
Yes. But you know what, why wasn't any of our players in his face telling him as much. They just quietly accepted it.
-
Plus when the ref did a 'drop ball' after this incident the commentator went on and on about Villa should give the ball back even though we had possession when the ref blew minutes before.
When we cocked up possession within seconds. 'Oh well they get it back now anyway' he chuckled.
Agree on all the other above points which I also noticed. The way we were
written off from the beginning was depressing, although perhaps understandable annoyingly.
Was also disappointed at Yorke's seeming preference towards United.
However, in the build up to the game you can see the commentary on United games past have always had the 'YESSS!' when they score, and with a hint of relief at that Steve Bruce 97th minute goal.
-
It was disgusting. Here them blame us for Young's diving is disrespectful and the club should make a complaint. Absolutely ridiculous commentary.
-
It was disgusting. Here them blame us for Young's diving is disrespectful and the club should make a complaint. Absolutely ridiculous commentary.
Im sure its written in their contracts that they are NOT allowed to say anything bad about manure otherwise they will be dismissed for gross misconduct. wankers!
-
At least I can hate another Manure player now . ash Young , stand up !! oooppps maybe not , hes just dived again .
-
DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO FUCKING SKY!!!
-
It was disgusting. Here them blame us for Young's diving is disrespectful and the club should make a complaint. Absolutely ridiculous commentary.
Lowly us,make a complaint against the mighty Man United Were more likely to send a letter of apology on behalf of Clark
-
And for nearly 2 decades Paul Scholes has been getting away with the kind of assaults that would have seen any other teams reduced to 10 men on a weekly basis.
Hearing commentators and pundits laugh off "another typical Paul Scholes challenge" when he's left an opponent rolling on the floor makes me want to put my foot through the fucking telly (and send the bill to Sky). You'd think after nearly 20 years that the dirty c*nt would have learned to tackle fairly. He could have crippled Gabby yesterday
Is it just me who thinks he gets away with murder every week? much like Robson used to do
-
This sort of thing has never bothered me, if we had gone up there and made a game of it instead of being the big bag of anti-shit that we were then we would've got some praise, with the way were playing you could have Ian Taylor, Nigel Kennedy and Wills as the commentators and they'd be hard pushed to find anything positive to say about us.
-
DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO FUCKING SKY!!!
But I like the cricket.
-
And for nearly 2 decades Paul Scholes has been getting away with the kind of assaults that would have seen any other teams reduced to 10 men on a weekly basis.
Hearing commentators and pundits laugh off "another typical Paul Scholes challenge" when he's left an opponent rolling on the floor makes me want to put my foot through the fucking telly (and send the bill to Sky). You'd think after nearly 20 years that the dirty c*nt would have learned to tackle fairly. He could have crippled Gabby yesterday
Is it just me who thinks he gets away with murder every week? much like Robson used to do
no not just you Chico, studs up on the knee... shocking challenge and Halsey waived play on.....
-
Balotelli was lambasted for a similar challenge and people were calling for a ban. Scholes does it and it's not replayed, at all, ever. Because it's Scholes.
-
DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO FUCKING SKY!!!
But I like the cricket.
Considering my Sky Sports subscription comes in cheaper than my Villa season ticket I know which gives me far better value for money. The cricket coverage, watching Barcelona every week and some top quality Champions League football – not to mention the odd decent game in the not-so-Premier League (watching the quality of Tevez and Aguero together on Saturday lunchtime was light years ahead of anything we ever see at Villa Park).
That said, the commentary on our game yesterday was utter shite. That guy does my head in whenever I hear him. And as much as I loved Yorkie as a player, he is embarassingly poor in his current role.
Like a lot of long-time football fans I hate the fact that our game is now slave to the TV dollar. I could make a stand against it by cancelling Sky, but I'd be cutting off my nose to spite my face. And I'd be disowned by my lads.
-
I'm glad it wasn't just me that noticed the 'we love manure commentary'...
My favourite was when Evra rugby tackled Hutton towards the end and he said "quite clearly Evra was just trying to regain his balance"
Should get collymore on there to balance things up a bit!
-
Never mind Sky, what about the ref? The worst bit for me was when Clark went down with an obvious head injury and he let play continue as Man u were attacking. The second we got the ball back he stopped the game.
I did have one of my more 'colourful' tirades at the tele over that!
-
Since when did 'Lovefest' replace the term 'Wankfest'?
-
I'm glad it wasn't just me that noticed the 'we love manure commentary'...
My favourite was when Evra rugby tackled Hutton towards the end and he said "quite clearly Evra was just trying to regain his balance"
Should get collymore on there to balance things up a bit!
That was fantastic. Arms around Hutton's waist.. and it isn't a foul because he lost his balance? What a joke.
-
Since when did 'Lovefest' replace the term 'Wankfest'?
Wanking is generally done solo, this lot were definitely having an orgy.
-
Well, I don't subscribe to 'em. You don't miss what you never had.
-
Whilst we were appalling yesterday, and Man Utd quite good, as is customary, the commentary absolutely sickened me. Every single Man Utd pass was spoken about as if it was Pele or Maradonna finishing off some exquisite 30 man move with a 20 yard screamer into the top corner. Every single mention of a Man U player had the sort of breathless rising tone to it as if the commentator was approaching his vinegar strokes, rather than just describing Ashley Young going past Hutton again as if he wasn't there.
And I agree with Chico about Scholes's challenges. Laughed off as if nearly crippling somebody is OK, because well, he's Paul Scholes isn't he, and he's always been crap at tackling, ha ha ha!
-
I am cancelling Sky Sports tonight, fuck them and fuck football.
-
I am cancelling Sky Sports tonight, fuck them and fuck football.
Im with there brother
-
I am cancelling Sky Sports tonight
But what about the Premier League Darts on a Thursday night. Have you thunk this through?
-
I don't know who the commentator was but his gurgling with pleasure at ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING Man Utd did really got on my tits.
-
I am cancelling Sky Sports tonight
But what about the Premier League Darts on a Thursday night. Have you thunk this through?
and CBeebies, i mean nicelodoen and disney
-
I don't know who the commentator was but his gurgling with pleasure at ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING Man Utd did really got on my tits.
Alan Parry wasn't it? And Alan Smith sat next to him was utterly useless - can't believe that's his job. Villa fan my arse!
-
Yup, it was Parry.
-
I am cancelling Sky Sports tonight, fuck them and fuck football.
I know I shouldn't but even as the black dog kicks, in this made me guffaw - thanks Fergal, I feel your pain!
-
Yup, it was Parry.
Who works for Sky, his job is not to be impartial but to promote the most popular teams leading to increased revenue through advertising.
-
Yup, it was Parry.
Who works for Sky, his job is not to be impartial but to promote the most popular teams leading to increased revenue through advertising.
There's being bias and then there's blaming us for a Man United player diving.
-
Yup, it was Parry.
Who works for Sky, his job is not to be impartial but to promote the most popular teams leading to increased revenue through advertising.
There's being bias and then there's blaming us for a Man United player diving.
Noticed it more this season (especially when Gary Neville is presenting or commentating), but the Sky coverage of Man Utd games has been ridiculously one-sided. It is like watching another version of MUTV at times and it seems that everyone in the studio and commentary has been briefed to talk up how great Man Utd are.
Worst example for me was the Man Utd v Spurs game earlier in the season. Gary Neville was in the studio and after spending the usual 45 minutes talking about how great "United" were , they finally moved on to Spurs. First up Brad Friedel and I thought they would talk about his amazing record of consecutive appearances or credit him for the form he was in at such an advanced stage of his career. Not a chance!! All Neville said was "that he has had some great games against United over the years" and moved on.
-
10 years ago I threw a Sky salesman out of the house when he tried to engage me about football and what I may be missing by not having Sky - he stated he was a fan - naturally I asked which local team - Manyoo he laughs - Get out says I - he laughs again until I offered to introduce him to the dog that was now frantically clawing at the door to get at him - he left.
Only way to deal with Sky.
-
I guess it's illegal in the UK but I watch the Sky games free via my dreambox and I can always turn the commentary off while I'm screwing Murdoch out of his subscription fee. It's just another example of how everything since the 90s has been geared up to promoting and ringfencing the "elite" clubs so they can sell the ManYoo/Barca/Real/Milan etc. package to twatty glory hunters around the globe. Basically the old G14 group or whatever they were called, with the collusion of Sky, the PL. the FA, and UEFA. We really are just cannon fodder these days.
-
I cancelled Sky Sports News about six months ago and had not missed it one iota. In a weak moment, I then resubscribed for a £3.25 a week offer to have it back together with films for 6 months. Suffice to say, I have barely watched any of the matches since having it back and can only watch about 3 minutes of SSN before steam starts coming out of my ears. Even with it back, I very rarely remember I have got it and when I do, it is mostly to watch the rugby, particularly the Heineken Cup, which is pretty much all I have missed. The time it has freed up for me to do other much more worthwhile things than watching hugely over-hyped matches with biased commentary, like spending my time on here, has been fantastic
-
The reason is money. Newton Heath attract viewers, that attracts advertisers, that makes money. Hence the recruitment of Neville, it's hardly down to his insightfull analysis of the game is it. We and many other clubs only exist as opposition, cannon fodder.
As much as I disliked him as a player I think Neville is by far the best pundit around and not at all scared of having a go at his ex team mates.
-
Can't we just ignore them or if you must DISCUSS them do it where it should be OFF TOPIC
-
Can't we just ignore them or if you must DISCUSS them do it where it should be OFF TOPIC
Couldn't you ignore the thread?
-
Never mind Sky, what about the ref? The worst bit for me was when Clark went down with an obvious head injury and he let play continue as Man u were attacking. The second we got the ball back he stopped the game.
THIS!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
I was fuming! Had it happened to a UTD player Halsey would have stopped the game instantly. I loved the way Evra ran for a full 10/20yards before falling to the ground holding his shoulder. Even then their stupid players carried on.
100% this, had me screaming at the dog, kickin the cat etc
-
If it's any help, Swedish tv ran a short compilation of Young's worst cheats at half time.
Didn't think so
-
If it's any help, Swedish tv ran a short compilation of Young's worst cheats at half time.
Didn't think so
did they have enough time thats worth a bloody boxset
-
Got rid of Sky and stopped reading the Times about 5 years ago and was delighted when they withdrew from Freeview last year. I don't miss it in the slightest.
Murdoch and his evil empire are ******. He came to Britain back in the 70's/80's vowing to fight the establishment a sort of media mogul for the common man. Well now he is the establishment and he doesn't like it when we all start observing that he and his pernicious organisation are a bunch of ******.
Fuck Murdoch, Fuck Sky and Fuck News International.
-
Never had Sky,never will.If i want to watch the Villa now i live in Lanzarote i go to the local bar,drink a few pints,for pain killing purposes only of course,then after the game drink loads more cause the pain is unbearable,follow that with a few shots of Jaigermeister so i am completely out of my face,try and explain to the missus how we used to play great football,that we won the European Cup years ago and that McLeish is an absolute dire twat.Then i get the same look of sympathy,every week,followed by the same statement "Villa will be fine my darling,McLeish will be gone soon,dont worry".I then go home,smoke a joint just to finish myself of properly,go to bed where i have these weird dreams of McLeish deep throating every other Premiership manager whilst taking a length from Ferguson!I then wake up to find that this was no dream,he actually had been deep throating every.....................................................Cock sucking spineless twat!Bollocks to that little twat Ashley Young aswell.Cheating fucker!Bollocks to Sky and Bollocks to Manyoooo to!
-
The reason is money. Newton Heath attract viewers, that attracts advertisers, that makes money. Hence the recruitment of Neville, it's hardly down to his insightfull analysis of the game is it. We and many other clubs only exist as opposition, cannon fodder.
As much as I disliked him as a player I think Neville is by far the best pundit around and not at all scared of having a go at his ex team mates.
Although he did just claim diving was one of the effects of globalisation, and that you can't punish cheating like Ashley's cause you'd have to punish all dives (highlighting a Rosicky dive which didn't lead to a penalty or a goal).
Whilst I slightly see his point regarding retrospective punishment some obvious cheating, and I'm not talking just about Young here, is undeniably clear and should be punished.
I live in Germany and you wouldn't believe what some players get away with here - the problem is they're better at it and any small contact is exploited to get a free-kick. For me thats cheating as well, but isn't so clear cut.
Nonetheless something can and should be done - for me its more important than goalline technology.
-
Although he did just claim diving was one of the effects of globalisation, and that you can't punish cheating like Ashley's cause you'd have to punish all dives (highlighting a Rosicky dive which didn't lead to a penalty or a goal).
Whilst I slightly see his point regarding retrospective punishment some obvious cheating, and I'm not talking just about Young here, is undeniably clear and should be punished.
I live in Germany and you wouldn't believe what some players get away with here - the problem is they're better at it and any small contact is exploited to get a free-kick. For me thats cheating as well, but isn't so clear cut.
Nonetheless something can and should be done - for me its more important than goalline technology.
The trouble is where do you stop? Whenever the ball goes out of play players from both sides are always claiming it as their ball, even when they know it came off them. That is cheating as well and can lead to goals.
The same argument can be used for goal line technology. QPR did their nut over the goal not being allowed and all the reporters agreed with them and demanded technology and better refs, yet not one of them pointed out that if the ref had given the correct decision earlier it would not have been a corner in the first place. Would that have been covered by instant replay for the officials or just the goal chance? How far back do they take a replay if a goal is scored? For example, our player is fouled in the opponents half, they go up the other end on a fast break and three passes later the ball is just about bundled over the line and a goal is given. Will the replay official be able to go back to the initial foul and over rule it, or will he only be able to adjudge the ball went over the line?
-
If I was a defender and I was up against Ashley Young ( or some other diving cheat - Drogba, for example) I'd actually go straight in and clatter them. You're going to concede a penalty anyway ( and possible get a red card like Shaun Derry did) so you may as well give yourself the satisfaction of breaking his leg while you're at it.
-
SKY are celebrating twenty years since football began with a poll to find 'best PL goal', 'best PL player' etc. Dalian's goal at Wimbledon hasn't made the shortlist but I think a Cantona penalty has. Amazingly Paul McGrath has managed to scrape onto the best defender shortlist alongside greats like Bruce, Stam, Ferdinand and Vidic. I did hear a rumour though that this was only after Mal Donaghy was disqualified when it was pointed out he was a at United a couple of years before the PL when clubs played in an amateur competition known as Division One.