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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Simon Ward on April 03, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
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Aston Villa name Gabriel Agbonlahor as new captain #SSN
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First decent move McLiesh has done.....
Now he can go and hammer the Scouse jobbies.
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I'm not convinced that Gabby is captain material but there's not really any other choice in the current team.
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Im amazed Heskey didnt get it
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I’d rather him concentrate on scoring some goals rather than the captaincy but then again who else could have done it, Given maybe?
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I'm not convinced that Gabby is captain material but there's not really any other choice in the current team.
He's not ideal, but he is Villa, and the players should get behind him easier knowing that, anybody else just wouldn't carry that weight, and a good few are probably sounding out there agents anyway.
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He was captain on Saturday,didnt notice him leading by example,Collins would probably been a better choice.
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The correct decision, IMO.
I thought he should have got it last Summer. But I suppose it doesn't mean much.
Glad he's been chosen again of Dunne and Collins though. Hopefully it means they're surplus to requirements in the Summer.
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I don't mind Gabby being captain he's got claret and blue blood in his veins top man is Gabby.
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It must be for his well spoken manner and off the cuff quips to placate the media at the post matchg press conferences.
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I just wish he could score a goal or two.
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Gabby is a legend.
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It matters very little in reality. It might mean something if Gabby relishes the role and picks his game up accordingly.
The ideal captain would be Cuellar if he was fit. Will he be fit for Saturday?
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Gabby is a legend.
What makes you say that?
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Gabby is a legend.
Where?
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I think Given would have probably made a decent skipper.
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Great. McClueless makes our 6-goals-a-year striker undroppable. Cosmic!
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Gabby is a legend.
A legend at what exactly?
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Not his biggest fan but there isn't much choice for skipper at the moment. The only senior pros available are him, Given, Collins, or, er, Emile and Warnock. I'd love Gabby to surprise me and go on a scoring streak to the end of the season, starting at Vigil Park this weekend. Sadly I can't see it happening.
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Im amazed Heskey didnt get it
Why? It's not like he's a regular starter is it.
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I think Given would have probably made a decent skipper.
Misread that as decent keeper.
Which I thought he was untill this season. Overated by the Geordie obsessed media, we should have known really as they were never famous for their defending. Probably one of the worst goalies we've had at dealing with crosses since Burridge. In the current atmosphere of 'blame it all on McLeish' he's got away with a few in recent weeks. 2 at Arsenal and another two corners on Saturday.
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Gabby is a great guy, hard worker and villa through and through. He's the right man for the job at this time. However, I question his leadership skills, and don't truly know if he's captain material.
Hopefully this secures up his future, and puts the Sunderland rumors to rest. But, remember what happened when we gave Ash the armband..
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I think Given would have probably made a decent skipper.
Misread that as decent keeper.
Which I thought he was untill this season. Overated by the Geordie obsessed media, we should have known really as they were never famous for their defending. Probably one of the worst goalies we've had at dealing with crosses since Burridge. In the current atmosphere of 'blame it all on McLeish' he's got away with a few in recent weeks. 2 at Arsenal and another two corners on Saturday.
Agreed, Given has looked a bit suspect in recent weeks but he is a very good keeper. I think he may be struggling with his confidence like a lot of our players at the moment.
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I think Given would have probably made a decent skipper.
Misread that as decent keeper.
Which I thought he was untill this season. Overated by the Geordie obsessed media, we should have known really as they were never famous for their defending. Probably one of the worst goalies we've had at dealing with crosses since Burridge. In the current atmosphere of 'blame it all on McLeish' he's got away with a few in recent weeks. 2 at Arsenal and another two corners on Saturday.
Agreed, Given has looked a bit suspect in recent weeks but he is a very good keeper. I think he may be struggling with his confidence like a lot of our players at the moment.
I have full confidence in Shay. Top keeper.
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Lack of leaders is one of the reasons we're in this fucking mess.
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For the time being Gabby is the right call.
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For the time being Gabby is the right call.
Agree
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I love Gabby, but making him the skipper shows just how thin on the ground we are.
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Right behind you Gabby.
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Poor decision in my opinion and a populist one, let's get them off my back by naming Gabby skipper.
Better candidates are Collins or Cuellar, or in fact anyone with an ounce of leadership qualities, which Gabby does not posess.
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Poor decision in my opinion and a populist one, let's get them off my back by naming Gabby skipper.
Better candidates are Collins or Cuellar, or in fact anyone with an ounce of leadership qualities, which Gabby does not posess.
Collins doesn’t strike me as captain material and there are rumors he is off in the summer. Cuellar could do the job but again might be going at end of season.
I’m not saying Gabby is the best choice but I think he’ll be here next season and I think it’s a potential long term appointment because there is a good chance Stan won’t be back next season if at all.
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Shows the calibre of our squad if Gabby is the best option after Petrov. That's one priority for next season IMO, a leader on the pitch. Oh and a manager off it.
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Im amazed Heskey didnt get it
Why? It's not like he's a regular starter is it.
because the manager and all players look up to him.
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This season can't end quick enough.
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Poor decision in my opinion and a populist one, let's get them off my back by naming Gabby skipper.
Better candidates are Collins or Cuellar, or in fact anyone with an ounce of leadership qualities, which Gabby does not posess.
Collins doesn’t strike me as captain material and there are rumors he is off in the summer. Cuellar could do the job but again might be going at end of season.
I’m not saying Gabby is the best choice but I think he’ll be here next season and I think it’s a potential long term appointment because there is a good chance Stan won’t be back next season if at all.
I agree it will be long term under McLeish, but I think it is a dangerous appointment long term. Short term, I would have gone for Collins till the end of the season as he was essentially doing the job at the weekend, Gabby was non existent and just does not give me confidence in him as a leader. I don't like forwards as captains anyway, defenders are always my choice but there you go. Lets hope he can lead us out of trouble. Long term, I am not even sure if he fits into the team effectively, let alone supposedly being a legend. The manager knows fans just blindly think he is Villa therefore some kind of demi god.
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Its a McLeish , trying to get the fans on his side to me , with Gabby being a Villa fan . It should have been Collins.
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I think Given would have probably made a decent skipper.
Misread that as decent keeper.
Which I thought he was untill this season. Overated by the Geordie obsessed media, we should have known really as they were never famous for their defending. Probably one of the worst goalies we've had at dealing with crosses since Burridge. In the current atmosphere of 'blame it all on McLeish' he's got away with a few in recent weeks. 2 at Arsenal and another two corners on Saturday.
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Sorry but I can't believe anyone would suggest Collins (or Dunne for that matter) as captain of our great club. These are people whose idea of leadership and setting examples to the younger players was to get pissed and allegedly attack one of the coaches, one of our greatest players. They shouldn't even still be at the club let alone be captain.
It shows exactly what our problem is when you have to pick a captain out of a pool of senior players consisting of Collins, Warnock, Cuellar (nothing against him but probably off in the summer), Ireland, Heskey and Gabby (again nothing against him but a leader of men? Never).
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I was wondering when Draculas name would crop up. Budgie too was a great shot stopper but lacked confidence in controlling his area. However we knew what to expect with Shay as hes always been like that but his general goalkeeping for us has been excellent until the last few games.
Bosnich was first rate at crosses and intimidating the opposition.People tend to remember him for flattening Herr Klinsman in the area. He also sent God flying in the same incident. Scared of nobody Bosnich but weak at goal kicking.
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Good call.
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Best option really. I'm fully in favour for the principle of just giving it to the longest-serving player anyway.
If there's somebody who is great at geeing other people along then they don't need a bit of elastic to get on with it.
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I'd have gone for Ciaran Clark if he was fit. Yes he's young but he's one of the few players in the squad who is very vocal. I think he'd have been a better player for it as well as he comes across as the kind of player who likes to be a big part of things and have a say in what's going on.
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Gabby is dangerously out of form and lacking in confidence imo, He does not need to concentrate on motivating everyone else. Bad move, Given or Collins for me
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Yeah. give it to Collins. He's built like a brick shit house, moans at the ref and fouls a lot. It's makes perfect sense.
In the real world, Collins is bloody lucky to be a Villa player after last season's antics.
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Yeah. give it to Collins. He's built like a brick shit house, moans at the ref and fouls a lot. It's makes perfect sense.
In the real world, Collins is bloody lucky to be a Villa player after last season's antics.
And he's a bit rubbish anyway, is James 'Magners in the socks' Collins. At least Gabby's just in bad form - Collins just isn't a very good player.
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Gabby is dangerously out of form and lacking in confidence imo, He does not need to concentrate on motivating everyone else.
Agree on that.
Gabby at the moment is a shadow of the former he has been
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Wrong choice IMO to be captain. cant see him giving an inspirational team talk to the guys or even leading by example. Will he be able to lift the spirits of the players if we conceed a goal? I pretty much doubt he would. I would have chose either Given or Collins.
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Wrong choice IMO to be captain. cant see him giving an inspirational team talk to the guys or even leading by example. Will he be able to lift the spirits of the players if we conceed a goal? I pretty much doubt he would. I would have chose either Given or Collins.
No but I can see him proud to lead the Villa out, which is more than you can say for most of the other senior players. Especially that fuckwit Collins, the thought of that lump of inadequacy and idiocy leading Villa is nauseating.
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Wrong choice IMO to be captain. cant see him giving an inspirational team talk to the guys or even leading by example. Will he be able to lift the spirits of the players if we conceed a goal? I pretty much doubt he would. I would have chose either Given or Collins.
No but I can see him proud to lead the Villa out, which is more than you can say for most of the other senior players. Especially that fuckwit Collins, the thought of that lump of inadequacy and idiocy leading Villa is nauseating.
Both comments spot on.
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Wrong choice IMO to be captain. cant see him giving an inspirational team talk to the guys or even leading by example. Will he be able to lift the spirits of the players if we conceed a goal? I pretty much doubt he would. I would have chose either Given or Collins.
No but I can see him proud to lead the Villa out, which is more than you can say for most of the other senior players. Especially that fuckwit Collins, the thought of that lump of inadequacy and idiocy leading Villa is nauseating.
Both comments spot on.
Fair enough he will be proud but thats about it. Actually, forget collins, I would have gone with either Given or even Gary Gardner
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Wrong choice IMO to be captain. cant see him giving an inspirational team talk to the guys or even leading by example. Will he be able to lift the spirits of the players if we conceed a goal? I pretty much doubt he would. I would have chose either Given or Collins.
No but I can see him proud to lead the Villa out, which is more than you can say for most of the other senior players. Especially that fuckwit Collins, the thought of that lump of inadequacy and idiocy leading Villa is nauseating.
Both comments spot on.
Fair enough he will be proud but thats about it. Actually, forget collins, I would have gone with either Given or even Gary Gardner
Given's not a bad shout, though I'm always sceptical about keepers being the captain unless they have a great history of being one-club men, or are generally the longest serving player, as they're often too far away to really influence the on-pitch goings-on. Casillas is the obvious example of a keeper who captains on longevity and loyalty, but both Real and Spain have leaders all over the park, so literally who wears the armband is of diminished importance.
Gardner I do see as the future Villa captain incarnate. He's got the presence of a leader, which has something to do with being both the driving force and the calming influence on and off the ball, a rare combination. Now, though, in his breakthrough season and with a tough run-in, is not the time.
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Wrong choice IMO to be captain. cant see him giving an inspirational team talk to the guys or even leading by example. Will he be able to lift the spirits of the players if we conceed a goal? I pretty much doubt he would. I would have chose either Given or Collins.
No but I can see him proud to lead the Villa out, which is more than you can say for most of the other senior players. Especially that fuckwit Collins, the thought of that lump of inadequacy and idiocy leading Villa is nauseating.
Both comments spot on.
Fair enough he will be proud but thats about it. Actually, forget collins, I would have gone with either Given or even Gary Gardner
It's a start isn't it? Someone who at least gives a toss about the club.
Forget Collins. Gladly.
Given - experienced, but for me goalkeepers shouldn't be captain. And Gardner isn't even an automatic pick yet, although he will be in time.
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Im sure he does give a toss about the club along with a few others there but he needs to up his game and quickly because as captain, people are going to be looking at him to inspire them which clearly he is not doing for whatever reason.
To be honest, I think he was given the arm band to make the fans happy because he is a local lad and supports the club.
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Im sure he does give a toss about the club along with a few others there but he needs to up his game and quickly because as captain, people are going to be looking at him to inspire them which clearly he is not doing for whatever reason.
To be honest, I think he was given the arm band to make the fans happy because he is a local lad and supports the club.
Which seems to me the only distinguishing feature at the moment, along with the fact that he's the longest serving player.
In many ways, the search for a captain is indicative of our season - other than Stan, there are no obvious leaders on the pitch. And losing Stan is a huge blow.
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How old was Barry when he was appointed captain ?
Is there an online list of Villa's captains over the years ?
Meanwhile, from Sky.................
Agbonlahor, who has come through the ranks at Villa, is the club's longest-serving player and he will take the armband for the first time for this weekend's trip to Liverpool
I guess that was someone else who lead the team out against Chelsea and earlier in the season then
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Meanwhile, from Sky.................
Agbonlahor, who has come through the ranks at Villa, is the club's longest-serving player and he will take the armband for the first time for this weekend's trip to Liverpool
I guess that was someone else who lead the team out against Chelsea and earlier in the season then
Thats really poor by Sky. Just shows how much attention they are paying to us
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Not sure how this suggestion will go down and not sure if it has been mentioned somewhere else within this thread but what about Stephen Ireland? He has improved recently and on Saturday, was clearly (IMO) the best Villa player on the pitch. Closing players down, wanting the ball, trying to make stuff happen. This is the sort of thing you want from a captain no?
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Not sure how this suggestion will go down and not sure if it has been mentioned somewhere else within this thread but what about Stephen Ireland? He has improved recently and on Saturday, was clearly (IMO) the best Villa player on the pitch. Closing players down, wanting the ball, trying to make stuff happen. This is the sort of thing you want from a captain no?
This.
gabby has been crap for months and is frankly too thick to be captain. Not a motivator if you ask me.
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Actually he could have given it to Ireland. He's a senior pro, regular first choice now (especially since we hardly have anyone else left standing), is a damn good player, and has been working pretty hard recently. Does that sound bonkers?
Edit - I seeRick already suiggested it so maybe as a suggestion it's not as "out there" as I suspected.
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I like Gabby but not sure he is captain material. And his from has been awful for a while now. Last goal was against Norwich 5th Nov, his last assist was at Bolton on Dec 10th.
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Actually he could have given it to Ireland. He's a senior pro, regular first choice now (especially since we hardly have anyone else left standing), is a damn good player, and has been working pretty hard recently. Does that sound bonkers?
Edit - I seeRick already suiggested it so maybe as a suggestion it's not as "out there" as I suspected.
Admittedly, I was being lazy and not looking through previous pages to see if Ireland was mentioned but feel he would be a great option. I do, however, think the reason he wasn't chosen was the spat he had with Eck at the Newcastle game. As I mentioned earlier, I also believe Gabby was given the captains arm band because it would get the fans (who are against Eck) on side
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Thats really poor by Sky. Just shows how much attention they are paying to us
Its not just Sky, the Telegraph is saying the same thing.
Its looks like the media outlets are just running an agency report without fact-checking it
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Thats really poor by Sky. Just shows how much attention they are paying to us
Its not just Sky, the Telegraph is saying the same thing.
Its looks like the media outlets are just running an agency report without fact-checking it
Telegraph as well? it gets worse! thought they were quite a respected newspaper. Maybe what they mean is that Gabby is leading the team out for the time since being confirmed as the replacement?
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5 months since he last goal is terrible, he's about 25, it's a European Championship and Olympic summer, Bent is out, if he can't step up now when can he. And yet some on here still think he's worth £15-20 mill, just dont see it myself.
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5 months since he last goal is terrible, he's about 25, it's a European Championship and Olympic summer, Bent is out, if he can't step up now when can he. And yet some on here still think he's worth £15-20 mill, just dont see it myself.
Never is he worth that figure but as he is british, he will prob fetch that fee. I think he is worth £8 TOPS.
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5 months since he last goal is terrible, he's about 25, it's a European Championship and Olympic summer, Bent is out, if he can't step up now when can he. And yet some on here still think he's worth £15-20 mill, just dont see it myself.
In a world where liverpool pay £35m for a half season wonder that's probably accurate.
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Gabby? Captain material? Really? Oh dear.
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For the time being this seems a reasonable decision to me, Gabby has passion and it could bring out a side in him we don't know about. I don't see it as a 'fan pleaser' decision, if he was that bothered about pleasing the fans he wouldn't be picking Mr Heskey.
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I don't see it as a 'fan pleaser' decision
I agree.
As this thread has nicely demonstrated, it's not as if there were half a dozen other candidates who have been passed over in favour of him.
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5 months since he last goal is terrible, he's about 25, it's a European Championship and Olympic summer, Bent is out, if he can't step up now when can he. And yet some on here still think he's worth £15-20 mill, just dont see it myself.
In a world where liverpool pay £35m for a half season wonder that's probably accurate.
Gabby's scored about as many as the world class Luis Suarez, too!
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The sad thing is we will sell Gabby for all of a fiver, he'll truck of to his next side and instantly turn into a goal hungry maniac, featuring in pole position for England up front and showing on every Tabloid back pages day in and day out for the foreseeable future.
Then we will have to listen to Clive tiddley screaming not only Roooooooooooooooney but also AAAAAAAAAAgbonlahor and making some ridicules statement like he's faster than Eusain Boult
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Great, make a badly out of form player undroppable. Delightful.
The one thing I'd concede is that we don't have any decent candidates for the job. I might have preferred Given but he's not in sterling form either.
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Given needs to be dropped immediately.
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Fucking awful today. Sick of him lately. Offers nothing.
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Desperately short of confidence and needs a goal.
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Desperately short of confidence and needs a goal.
I honestly think Gabby is becoming dazed and confused, if you watch his body language on the pitch he doesn't seem to know who is doing what and where, that manifested itself in his attempt on a goal, that is classic of a player in 2 minds and not focused even the injury when Herd went of and Gabby was fussing around the scene he didn't seem to have control of the situation as a Cap't would and thus giving instructions to the sidelines.
Not saying that's Gabby's fault any other player there would have been the same its the way the team is allowed to drift, there are no leaders, nobody that other players look to to take charge and lead.
To put that leadership in place both in training and on the pitch requires a manager.
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Every season Gabby goes through peaks and troughs. I just fucking wish we wouldn't persist with him as a starter, let alone as a captain during them.
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Every season Gabby goes through peaks and troughs. I just fucking wish we wouldn't persist with him as a starter, let alone as a captain during them.
To me Gabby is an ideal impact sub, he's not a Premiership starter and definitely not captain material. However, Villa currently have no real option but to use him as both.
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Has'nt developed.
Does'nt hold the ball up well enough to be a Heskey/Mark Hughes kind of player, does'nt have the intelligence to make runs of the ball to be a Bent kind of player.
Has it all, but lacks the most important thing...... a footballing brain.
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Every season Gabby goes through peaks and troughs. I just fucking wish we wouldn't persist with him as a starter, let alone as a captain during them.
Quite. He is great when he is on it, but when he is not he is very poor, and the worst of it is his lack of movement which I am a broken record with I know, but he is the most static centre forward imaginable when team mates have the ball. Frustratingly he can move and do it, but so sporadic. I said on the match thread that at this stage of his career, if you took off the claret and blue specs, he is little more than Heskey was at his age. A strong, quick centre forward who does not score goals. The problem is, he does not hold the ball that well or cause defenders too many problems when not in form. We miss Bent terribly, because his movement creates the ball to play and the chances that come to him are no fluke.
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I'll put a different slant on it. I don't think he's fit, he was bloody woeful. He ran at their defence once today. I've a feeling that McLeish played him for his experience due to our lack of numbers and told him to play deep and let Weimann do all the running. I'd have subbed him for Carruthers.
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Really don't think he is captain material but the problem is I don't see anyone else in te squad who is captain material either.
Was impressed with Collins today though, seen him a few times talking to some of the youngsters.
Not a fan of strikers as captains, I'd rather gabby just concentrated on getting some goals.
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IMO he shouldn't be starting right now.
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The shot of his that slowly rolled out for a throw in was dire.
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His form suggests he should not even start, another Mcliesh attempt to try and get the fans on side, no football reason to make him captain.
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I'm finding it difficult to remember the last good game he's had.
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I'm finding it difficult to remember the last good game he's had.
not this year
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I think he is great, he works hard for us and leads the line very well. The problem is his form has gone. His belief has gone.
On form he is a great asset and outlet for us. If he was on his game yesterday I'm sure he would have square the ball across goal instead of the half arsed shot.
For the most part he has spent so much time out of position I don't think helps and even during the MON ere there was times he needed resting or dropping and he never was. MON would not rotate and now we have no one else.
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I think he is great, he works hard for us and leads the line very well. The problem is his form has gone. His belief has gone.
On form he is a great asset and outlet for us. If he was on his game yesterday I'm sure he would have square the ball across goal instead of the half arsed shot.
For the most part he has spent so much time out of position I don't think helps and even during the MON ere there was times he needed resting or dropping and he never was. MON would not rotate and now we have no one else.
How does he lead the line very well? I want to see what others seem to, any would like it explained, without anything about him being Villa included. He is brilliant in fits, but in terms of a specific role, I just don't see it.
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The shot of his that slowly rolled out for a throw in was dire.
Agreed, Geoff Thomasesque in its rubbishness.
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IMO he shouldn't be starting right now.
Agreed, he does not warrant a place in the team on current form but sadly we have no other viable options other than the even more inept heskey.
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I'm finding it difficult to remember the last good game he's had.
Probably the Balckburn game earlier in the season when he scored.
He was absolutely rubbish yesterday. The one chance he had, it went for a flippin throw in! WTF!?! Strikers should be hitting the target minimum but not our gabby. Worst thing is, he wont be dropped either as he is the captain! Something I do not agree with.
IMO, Heskey should have started instead of Gabby with Wiemann playing alongside him.
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IMO he shouldn't be starting right now.
Agreed, he does not warrant a place in the team on current form but sadly we have no other viable options other than the even more inept heskey.
Weimann on his own for me. The best player in the best system.
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Maybe Gabby doesn't like other strikers playing well or scoring goals. Maybe he's a sulker.
Weimann & Bent do well, Gabby doesn't seem interested.
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Maybe Gabby doesn't like other strikers playing well or scoring goals. Maybe he's a sulker.
Weimann & Bent do well, Gabby doesn't seem interested.
I wouldnt be surprised if that was the case but its his job to do better which he doesn seem to do.
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IMO he shouldn't be starting right now.
Agreed, he does not warrant a place in the team on current form but sadly we have no other viable options other than the even more inept heskey.
Weimann on his own for me. The best player in the best system.
Agreed. Bring Gabby on as an impact sub but start with another attacking midfielder.
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Gabby should not at this stage be best used as an impact sub though. Maybe at a different club he could be coaxed into more consistency, but if he stays and plays every week, we simply have to find a way to utilise his pace more often and to better effect, as it is his only real weapon. It frustrates me that when he isolates a player he does not simply kick and run, as it would work 80% of the time! He should be perfect for the wide role of a front 3, but lacks the awareness to be effective. As much as I loathe him, Downing was perfect out left of the 3 pronged attack because he would drift into threatening positions if not on the ball.
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Woeful again today - captain , my arse.
First off the pitch today without acknowledging the travelling support.
Not been worth the shirt for months .
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Gabby's a busted flush. Shouldn't be in the team let alone captain. Give it to Collins and start with Weimann up front (can't believe I'm saying this) with Ivanhoe. We simply cannot do any worse.
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Completely agree des - only an incompetent moron would have gabby in the team , let alone captain
Erm , hold on ......
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He was shocking. Dribbling straight into a red shirt every time. Well played, Gabs.
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As mentioned earlier, something is not right with Gabby, said this in the last couple of games and today was so evident is screamed from the kid, you don't get a player like Gabby who wears his heart on his sleeve, playing for the club he loves, as a Cap't then turns into some kind of useless, couldn't give a dam half wit display, that walks of without giving a crap, we all know deep down Gabby has more in his locker than he has been showing, so for me its one of a few things.
Perhaps the bloke is as pissed of with McLeish as we are, perhaps he just can't work with him.
Perhaps as I think Gabby is already on his way out the club and its something he's coming to turns with.
Perhaps he's just lost it and after 2 seasons of playing in a very badly run club he's had enough, he wouldn't be the first or the last.
For me the only important thing now is to not throw the baby out with the bath water, we don't have a lot of choice, we are in the middle of a dog fight that we must survive and at this time we need experienced heads, we will be asking a huge amount of Weimann to stick him up front and expect him to carry the day, could have a detrimental effect on his career.
I think we need to get N'Zogbia back in, we need to get Cuellor back in there, Heskey coming on and then bring the younger players during the course of the games left.
Then when we get to the end of the season IMO there will be a lot of players leaving this club and i think Gabby will without doubt be one.
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He didn't contribute much today, he just doesn't look fit to me.
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He has been woeful for months. I have been critical of his movement in the main, and the fact he often goes missing in games, but today he did not even look committed. Something has to give.
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He didn't contribute much today, he just doesn't look fit to me.
He was dire today, truly terrible, its not something that has just happened, this has been coming on for months, why is that, something is badly wrong with the player.
bet you it comes out in the wash....
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Gabby will come good.
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He has been woeful for months. I have been critical of his movement in the main, and the fact he often goes missing in games, but today he did not even look committed. Something has to give.
He can't play up front on his own. He doesn't read the game well enough and he can't keep hold of the ball. Summed it all up for me when he pulled out of that 50/50 tackle with Carrick in the 2nd half. I say 50/50, but it was more like 60/40 in his favour and he just pulled out of it. So disappointing to see that from any player, but when it is your captain it is pretty inexcusable.
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If I was Captain of my boyhood team and was on the end of a 4-0 drubbing I'd be off sharpish too and wouldn't want to face anyone.
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I thought Gabby was our man of the match yesterday.......
NOT! He was shit as usual.
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Gabby will come good.
Yes, probably for the first 8 weeks of next season, then he'll go back to being average, slightly over-weight and will lose a bit more pace.
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When i saw Gabby pull out of that 50/50 challenge with Carrick I felt like putting my foot through the TV. As our captain, it was pathetic.
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Gabby does not deserve a place in the team on current form -rather than telling fans to back the manager he should be doing his talking on the pitch- not good enough, get rid!
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When i saw Gabby pull out of that 50/50 challenge with Carrick I felt like putting my foot through the TV. As our captain, it was pathetic.
Shocking alright. Intimidated by Michael Carrick
Gabby looked unhappy on the left earlier in the season but was playing great stuff. With Bent injured, he has been given a big chance to show his true worth in his best position. It hasn't been pretty. His stats over the last 2 seasons have been shocking.
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For a player to look especially bad in the current Villa team takes some doing.
Gabby his not worth his place at the moment, let alone being captain.
Even from our view up in the Goodyear Blimp yesterday, that tackle he pulled out of against Carrick was an embarrassment.
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There's something not right about him at the moment, to me he dose'nt look at all fit. Even Heskey seemed quicker than him when he came on yesterday.
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Still injured is my guess. Wasnt his back&hamstring mentioned around x-mas time?
I cant recall the last time i've seen him running full pelt in a game.
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I cant recall the last time i've seen him running full pelt in a game.
No, nor can i so he needs to be dropped. I'd start with Carruthers and N'Zogbia against Sunderland, with Weimann through the middle.
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When i saw Gabby pull out of that 50/50 challenge with Carrick I felt like putting my foot through the TV. As our captain, it was pathetic.
Totally agree, too many times he goes missing, and that particular moment just about summed up our season to me......carrying too many passengers, and players who despite what they may say, just do not have the enthusiasm or stomach for Villa anymore.
Is this their fault? Certainly, is this because the manager has totally demotivated them and allows this to happen? Quite probably.
Either way, he should DEFINITELY be stripped of his captaincy, to allow someone to skipper the team after that display of demotivating unleadership, would be a travesty. What kind of example is that.
I'm not singling Gabby out individually, I still think he's got a lot to offer Villa, but you cannot defend that
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Even from our view up in the Goodyear Blimp yesterday, that tackle he pulled out of against Carrick was an embarrassment.
I was shouting "bottled it!" at the screen yesterday when I saw that. Pathetic. Alan Wright would have went in harder than that.
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I cant recall the last time i've seen him running full pelt in a game.
No, nor can i so he needs to be dropped. I'd start with Carruthers and N'Zogbia against Sunderland, with Weimann through the middle.
Agreed, carruthers looks hungry and i like the idea of him and nzogbia supplying weimann- no way mcleish will drop gabby though as we both know.
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Gabby has been poor all season and he may as well not have been on the pitch against ManUre because he done nothing. I didn’t think he was the right choice as captain but I thought that he’s form would pick up when he got the armband and he would lead by example but he has got worse over the last couple of weeks and even Heskey looked better when he came on.
I think its time to drop him and play Weimann up front.
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Sounds like the clubs are beginning to worry about season ticket renewals We are so loyal we will be willing to put up with anything
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2737630,00.html
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'Inconsistant season', I'd say it's been consistantly bad.
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Sounds like the clubs are beginning to worry about season ticket renewals We are so loyal we will be willing to put up with anything
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2737630,00.html
Gabby also says in that article: "We started off really well and had some good results and then we've had a dip." Really? If 13 points from 13 relatively easy games - including failing to beat Wolves, QPR and Olbiyun, and wins only against Blackburn, Wigan and Norwich - qualifies as starting off really well, no wonder we're in the shit