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Title: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 25, 2012, 11:51:28 AM
I could not believe that stat I heard yesterday . 166 corners with no goals , not a goal from a corner all season .

Will we go a season without scoring from a corner ?   If we are rubbish in the  opponents box no wonder we are rubbish at defending corners and set pieces ourselves .

Why are we so poor at corners ?   
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 25, 2012, 11:52:30 AM
I think Collins or Cuellar will bang one in before the end of the season.

Still a shocking statistic though.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: D.boy on March 25, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
I can't see us scoring from a corner or in open play, especially as we play most games in our own half.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: caster troy on March 25, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
Come to think of it, how many headed goals have we scored this season?
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Pete3206 on March 25, 2012, 12:16:58 PM
Didn't Dunne get one at Arsenal?
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 25, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
We miss the deliveries of Young and Downing.

Petrov shouldn't be taking set-pieces.

Albrighton should take corners from the left and N'Zogbia should take corners from the right.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 25, 2012, 12:20:30 PM
Didn't Dunne get one at Arsenal?

Yes. We haven't scored from one in the league.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: villajk on March 25, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
Come to think of it, how many headed goals have we scored this season?

warnock scored one recently.  oh, hang on ...............................................
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 25, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Naughty Pauline.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Monty on March 25, 2012, 12:32:43 PM
Bannan's the best set-piece taker in our team. Every other delivery from him looks dangerous (to be honest, his hit-rate on dangerous set-pieces is better than Young's or Downing's was).
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: woody4866 on March 25, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
we don`t practice taking corners - Its not part of our defensive make up!
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Pete3206 on March 25, 2012, 12:53:27 PM
Bannan's the best set-piece taker in our team. Every other delivery from him looks dangerous (to be honest, his hit-rate on dangerous set-pieces is better than Young's or Downing's was).

Really? I think his delivery is no more than speculative.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Chipsticks on March 25, 2012, 01:07:30 PM
Bannan's the best set-piece taker in our team. Every other delivery from him looks dangerous (to be honest, his hit-rate on dangerous set-pieces is better than Young's or Downing's was).

Really? I think his delivery is no more than speculative.

His set-pieces can be good, but his problem is that he's not consistent. Sure he'll sometimes hit a 10p coin from 40 yards away, but often he's subject to the Ashley Young syndrome of not being able to clear the first man at corners.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Monty on March 25, 2012, 01:12:02 PM
Bannan's the best set-piece taker in our team. Every other delivery from him looks dangerous (to be honest, his hit-rate on dangerous set-pieces is better than Young's or Downing's was).

Really? I think his delivery is no more than speculative.

His set-pieces can be good, but his problem is that he's not consistent. Sure he'll sometimes hit a 10p coin from 40 yards away, but often he's subject to the Ashley Young syndrome of not being able to clear the first man at corners.

Like most things, he's better when he's started the game. When he comes on as a sub, he obviously feels nervous and anxious to prove something, and so gets inconsistent and, often, over-ambitious. When he's started the game, he seems to ease into it better, and he does everything more consistently, including set-plays.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Chipsticks on March 25, 2012, 02:05:52 PM
Bannan's the best set-piece taker in our team. Every other delivery from him looks dangerous (to be honest, his hit-rate on dangerous set-pieces is better than Young's or Downing's was).

Really? I think his delivery is no more than speculative.

His set-pieces can be good, but his problem is that he's not consistent. Sure he'll sometimes hit a 10p coin from 40 yards away, but often he's subject to the Ashley Young syndrome of not being able to clear the first man at corners.

Like most things, he's better when he's started the game. When he comes on as a sub, he obviously feels nervous and anxious to prove something, and so gets inconsistent and, often, over-ambitious. When he's started the game, he seems to ease into it better, and he does everything more consistently, including set-plays.

Well with the potential absence of Zog for the Chelsea game and Heskey proving yesterday what we everyone apart from McLeish already knew, I strongly believe/hope that Bannan starts out wide this Saturday.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on March 25, 2012, 02:08:51 PM
Not only have we not scored from a corner this season, we've also conceded more from corners than any other team. Absolutely Pathetic.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 25, 2012, 03:02:24 PM
I was not happy when McLeish became manager but the one positive I did say was ' at least he will make it hard for teams to score against us , how ever boring and negative we will become'
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 25, 2012, 03:02:54 PM
Statistically speaking teams average between 5 and 6 corners per game and score from a corner only about 1 game in 10.
On that basis we should have scored about 3 or 4 instead of the pathetic zero.
By the same token we should of course only have conceded 3 or 4. Does anybody have the statistic for how many we have conceded ?

Of course, these are only statistics but we really are shit arent we ?

http://www.soccerbythenumbers.com/2011/05/why-goal-value-of-corners-is-almost.html
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: john e on March 25, 2012, 03:41:25 PM
woud this be on par with Arsenals record breaking invinsible season,

i think it would
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 25, 2012, 03:48:45 PM
Goals for and against from corners.
As at 14th Feb. Probably even worse now.

Man City                    12               2                         +10
West Brom                 6                1                          +5
Man Utd                     7                3                          +4
Norwich                     7                3                           +4
Chelsea                     4                 0                          +4
Everton                     5                 2                          +3
Sunderland               4                 1                          +3
Wolves                      6                5                           +1
Tottenham                5                 4                          +1
Blackburn                  8                 8                          0
Stoke                        4                 5                          -1
Arsenal                     3                 4                          -1
Liverpool                  5                  7                         -2
Fulham                     3                  5                         -2
Newcastle                1                  3                         -2
QPR                          3                 6                          -3
Swansea                  3                 6                          -3
Wigan                      3                 6                          -3
Bolton                      3                10                         -7
Aston Villa               0                 11                        -11

Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Simba on March 25, 2012, 04:45:40 PM
So we have scored the least well, nothing, and we have conceded the most.

And we haven't scored from a header in the league? All season.

Just can't believe it . Especially as we also have the third worst record for on target shots (109) above only Swansea and Stoke. Blimey. Talk about hit n' hope. How many have we scored from free kicks? You got that one?

These stats are almost as bad as us only having 28% possession yesterday. And according to the Telegraph NO shots on target and one off. Scratching me 'ead here wondering what they do all week.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 25, 2012, 05:30:09 PM
This is one of the things I don't get about McLeish.

His SHA team scored loads from corners and set pieces, Ridgewell used to get 5 a season, running infront of the keeper and nodding it in.

When you have a team that struggles to create from open play, you prioritize set pieces. SHA did, Stoke unashamedly do it and I'd like us to do it as at least we might score a goal or two then.

The delivery has been shite all season, have we no one who can whip in a decent corner in the team? And I don't understand why we persist with floating the ball towards the back post, it dosen't work!!
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Simba on March 25, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
It is not as though we are three games into the season is it? The stats actually mean something. Do something about it.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 25, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
McLeish is just thick .   He has to be .  He is doing his best to turn his own fans against him.

Never played to Bent's strength , played Ireland on the wing , albrighton on the wrong wing , leaves Petrov on when hes fucked , buys Hutton for 4 million , takes Jenas on loan , fooks off Makoun and plays Heskey . 

Thats just the start , as well as making out we are a bloody small club , while never taking responsibility himself  .
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: villan from luton on March 25, 2012, 07:08:18 PM
McLeish is just thick .   He has to be .  He is doing his best to turn his own fans against him.

Never played to Bent's strength , played Ireland on the wing , albrighton on the wrong wing , leaves Petrov on when hes fucked , buys Hutton for 4 million , takes Jenas on loan , fooks off Makoun and plays Heskey . 

Cant disagree with this, except for possibly Hutton as think he may end up ok
Thats just the start , as well as making out we are a bloody small club , while never taking responsibility himself  .
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: gervilla on March 25, 2012, 08:27:35 PM
I think if we stick with Emile up front we could manage to not score anymore for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 25, 2012, 08:28:01 PM
We probably won't score a goal again at all.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: UK Redsox on November 28, 2012, 10:52:05 AM
Following the shock of last night when Villa actually scored from a corner, when exactly was the last time ?

I was hearing that there had been somewhere over 300 corners since we last scored. Is that correct ?
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 28, 2012, 10:59:24 AM
Wasn't the goal against West Brom from a corner?
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 28, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
need Westwood  take  the corners ;)
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 28, 2012, 12:41:04 PM
Not only did we actually score from a corner last night, some of the other corners we were winning and looking threatening.
Apart from Bentekes goal, from memory I can recall headers from Clarke, Baker and Weimann.
Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: JPartington on November 28, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
It was strange as Bannan's deliveries were excellent last night, whipped in with speed and curl, causing chaos on every one. They were so much better than when he simply hits it in flat and stands it up, leaving the attacking player with too much to do to generate the necessary power.

Then Westwood steps up and drifts it across flat, and we score!

I suppose that Westwood's was pinged a bit flatter and a bit faster than Bannan's old-style type deliveries.

Title: Re: Will we go a season without scoring from a corner .
Post by: The Left Side on November 28, 2012, 03:10:46 PM
was Lowton's goal against Swansea from a corner?
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