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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on March 24, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
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Yes, Alex. I'm sure you do. (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2691277,00.html)
Manager Alex McLeish has promised a positive performance from his players when they return to home action against Chelsea next Saturday.
The Villa boss was bitterly disappointed with a 3-0 defeat by Arsenal which leaves them looking anxiously over their shoulders towards the foot of the Barclays Premier League table.
But he stressed: "We have a home game next week and we have to be positive.
"We have to concentrate on the glass being half full rather than half empty."
McLeish said his team had learned a lesson at the Emirates, particularly during a first half in which they conceded two "lamentable" goals.
"Although we didn't see a lot of the ball in the second half, we saw more of it," he said.
"At 2-0 we had a couple of chances. At half-time we thought that if we could get a goal back we could make Arsenal nervous.
"Andi Weimann had a couple of chances. He scuffed a left-footer and played the ball across the face of goal when he might have gone for goal.
"Normally, his striker instincts would have made him try to score, but he was lively when he came on.
"But the goals in the first half were pretty lamentable - they were very weak from our point of view."
The manager also made the point that he was without several key players, including the team's latest injury victim Charles N'Zogbia.
"That was the most experienced XI I had available," he added.
"The rest are injured and we had six kids on the bench.
"People expected us to come here and win but we have to be realistic.
"I felt that if we could keep Arsenal quiet, the longer the game went on the more chance we would have. But they were just too good for us."
Sorry, but the Pravda spin does my head in.
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For cough ya daft pasty-faced sun-dodging ginga non grata.
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How many lesson's are we gonna learn.He is talking shite.
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He actually said "we were playing Arsenal today, one of the elite clubs" in the Beeb interview. He actually said it.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17499702
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What's with the nugget singleing out young players?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17499702
TWAT!
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How fukn depressing
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17499702
TWAT!
McTwat if you please
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Yes, Alex. I'm sure you do. (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2691277,00.html)
"We have a home game next week and we have to be positive.
Unlike your tactics on the day in all probability.
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Fuck off Alex, you genuinely have no idea why you get criticised you moron.
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The man's a complete knob. Oh, and those of you who thought Villa were safe, no chance of getting relegated, we're too good to go down. Shut up idiots!! This Villa is a shit heap, led by a complete knob. Heskey plays again!! Jeez, we are crap and he's making us worse. McLeish out!
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How fitting that the thingummy he is wearing on his lapel is the colour of the cowardly lion on our badge: yellow.
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That box of quotes does really bring a tear to the eyes.
The most experienced is not always the best choice of an XI - Emule is experienced; he's also not very good.
Given his paranoia with the "elite" he might as well have tried to give the kids a shot; playing Lichaj and Weimann from the start, for a start; playing Petrov, Herd and Gardner as a midfield three might have been a good idea.
He is just not very good, I'm afraid.
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Mcleish out
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He simply contradics himself, he is ruining this once great club though not single handed I might add!
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He becomes more like O'Leary every time he opens his stupid mouth.
People don't expect us to win, you arse-covering twat, people expect us to at least try to play.
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I'm starting to hate the twat just for using the term "elite clubs". They might not be so fucking elite if you ever made more of an effort to try and beat them. Twat.
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Our remaining games....
"They're all beatable" Maybe on your fucking planet but not here on planet earth.
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He sounds like a Politician he's full of bullshit rhetoric, " the glass is half full" ffs McLiesh the club don't even have a glass to fill, halfway's or otherwise, we are going to go after Chelsea at the next home game, wow Chelsea will want this so bad they will be even more ruthless than Arsenal, the one thing I hope he does face is the wrath of the Villa fans at home, put this way, I was 100% against earlier demonstrations and said when they where planned it was not the right time.......................Well now is the time, now is the time for hard pressed Villa fans to vent there wrath at this bloke so he understands it genuinely isn't that we are fickle, we don't want him as manager, full stop.
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I just can't believe what I've heard in that beeb interview. Prize cock. He was almst blaming Weimann, a kid who got him out of jail last time out, for not getting us back into it at 2-1.
An elite club, bollocks. The upcomng list beatable - well let's hope for one more suprse like Chelsea away, because otherwise we'll be up to our necks in it come mid-April
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I'm too stressed and frustrated to even comment.
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He really does make a rod for his own back with these facile comments.
Does he think we actually believe this guff?
He is starting to blame others for the results - Weimman should be congratulated for being "lively" and leave it at that! Don't go on to tell him scuffed one shot and the fluffed another - it's counter-productive.
This is panning out like DOL all over again - have we still got the "not fickle" banner?
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Passing the buck to our young players? You lost that game before you started based on tactics and selecting Emile. Just fuck off you useless c*nt!
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In all honesty, I can truly say I fucking hate Mcleish.
I hate him and his football.
But mostly, I hate him for making our team a total irrelevance in the game.
Please, just fuck off and fuck off now.
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If those comments about Weimann are true then it defies believe. Weimann was very good IMO.
And some people think this is a man who can bring through our young players when he criticises them unfairly?
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Elite clubs? Ffs its back to the O'leary bollocks again, just fuck off Mcleish you spineless ******, you somehow got a job that your vastly under qualified for and you've done well to last 6 months, just fuck off now out of our fantastic club and in years to come you can tell your grandchildren how you once 'managed' the great Aston Villa FC.
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What's with the nugget singleing out young players?
He always does this, names and shames players who make mistakes most weeks in his interviews. Im not sure what the motive behind it is , but to me it is terrible management and much more likely to destroy confidence than be an effective kick up the backside. Perhaps he should allow the players to speak about his mistakes each week and see how he feels about that.
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Is it any wonder some of our players like Albrighton and Gabby look shot confidence wise?
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Was at the game today with an arsenal mate sat up behind our goal 1st half (a fucking abominable shambles of a performance) and wanted to see if anyone else noticed during a break in play, after 30/40mins, Given shouting at Mcleish and waving his arms as if to say 'cmon what the fucks goin on/sort it out etc.' and turning away in exasperation when mcleish responds by gesturing to the part of his arm where the captains armband would be??
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Also why play midfielders if their roles are limited to forming part of a deep sitting and disorganised back 8 and then watching an long ball aimed towards the inside left channel for heskey not to win, just too dire all round
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Was at the game today with an arsenal mate sat up behind our goal 1st half (a fucking abominable shambles of a performance) and wanted to see if anyone else noticed during a break in play, after 30/40mins, Given shouting at Mcleish and waving his arms as if to say 'cmon what the fucks goin on/sort it out etc.' and turning away in exasperation when mcleish responds by gesturing to the part of his arm where the captains armband would be??
We have started "Eck-watch" at home matches trying to work out what the hell he is telling them to do - what does "point at upper arm" mean?
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Each time he plays Heskey is another nail in his coffin as far as I'm concerned.
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Was at the game today with an arsenal mate sat up behind our goal 1st half (a fucking abominable shambles of a performance) and wanted to see if anyone else noticed during a break in play, after 30/40mins, Given shouting at Mcleish and waving his arms as if to say 'cmon what the fucks goin on/sort it out etc.' and turning away in exasperation when mcleish responds by gesturing to the part of his arm where the captains armband would be??
We have started "Eck-watch" at home matches trying to work out what the hell he is telling them to do - what does "point at upper arm" mean?
It is one of life's great mysteries, perhaps the upper arm holds the key to our total dutch football...tbh he might as well perform YMCA dance on the sidelines for all the help his 'instructions' offered
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If those comments about Weimann are true then it defies believe. Weimann was very good IMO.
And some people think this is a man who can bring through our young players when he criticises them unfairly?
Eh? Having watched the link he actually says that Weimann made a difference when he came on. Okay he did say that "normally he'd have gone for goal" about the pass/shot that went across the goal, but that's hardly undermining the kid!
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Then they aren't true then. :D
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Err...dunno, but I've had beer now!
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I'm just sick of the same old shit from him, " People expect us to win but we have to be realistic!!!"
I don't expect us to win every game but I do expect us to compete & if the manager thinks we've fucking lost before we kick off we might as well not travel.
Every interview is like him totally fucking negative, he can blame player's, the fan's or anything he likes but the bottom line is we should be doing alot better than we are with the talent he has at his disposal & he has to take responsibility for that
His tactics are shocking, he doesn't seem to be able to inspire any of the players.He is just so out of his depth & should never have had a sniff of managing our club, we are & always will be a great club, just being there to make up the numbers is not what we expect or deserve.
I don't blame him for accepting the appointment but I do blame him for the way we are playing & the continual negative outlook he portrays, I just wish he would acknowledge that he may have contributed in some small way to where we find ourselves in the league.
I really do fear for us this season it's spookily like the knuckle draggers season last year minus a trophy
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Watched Stoke v citeh earlier, stoke were outplayed for periods but kept having a go, contrast that to the way we appoached citeh at home.
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Alex, people don't expect us to win all the time, they'd just like it if you didn't pick Heskey and instruct the team to stand in their own penalty area shitting themselves for the entire game. You could also fuck off as well, that would improve things.
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Alex, people don't expect us to win all the time, they'd just like it if you didn't pick Heskey and instruct the team to stand in their own penalty area shitting themselves for the entire game. You could also fuck off as well, that would improve things.
Hilarious
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Not sure what i make of those comments. Yes, we are down to the bare bones selection wise, but the fact remains some players, regardless of the tactics, didn't put a shift in today. He'd have been better off saying nowt or sending out someone else while he "had words" in the dressing room. He should realise we were below par even given the gulf in class
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McLeish is horribly out of his depth at Aston Villa Football Club. End of story.
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Oh, and those of you who thought Villa were safe, no chance of getting relegated, we're too good to go down. Shut up idiots!!
Ouch.
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'People expect us to win', nope Alec you have again completely misunderstood. The fans expect us to attack and have a go like many clubs in the league have done. Obviously sometimes we will lose against sides with better resources, but if we give it a go the fans will support the team like they did against Arsenal at home. Our squad may not be the best, but the talent available is a lot better than is reflected by its position in the league currently. He will never succeed here, because he will/cannot understand this fact. That's not being an anti-Mcleish Villa fan, it's just clearly the reality of the situation.
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So the twat starts with Heskey who does fuck all.
Weimann comes on shows a lot of energy and looks enthusiastic and he criticises him
The twat should criticise himself as a manager by saying ' you need to score goals to win matches , I started with Heskey , he does not score goals , so there is a good chance we wont win '
GET HIM OUT !!!!!!
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Weimann comes on shows a lot of energy and looks enthusiastic and he criticises him
Except that he didn't actually criticise him.
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It's interesting that McL demands a 'positive response' from his players yet the fans have been demanding this all season: a positive appoach, a bit of fight and to be entertained and HE has failed to deliver that so what hope of the players doing what he 'demands'.
Prozac anyone.........
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Was at the game today with an arsenal mate sat up behind our goal 1st half (a fucking abominable shambles of a performance) and wanted to see if anyone else noticed during a break in play, after 30/40mins, Given shouting at Mcleish and waving his arms as if to say 'cmon what the fucks goin on/sort it out etc.' and turning away in exasperation when mcleish responds by gesturing to the part of his arm where the captains armband would be??
If he's deflecting responsibility on to his captain, and indicating he is not doing his job, then perhaps he should remember who made him captain. And perhaps it might occur to him to do something about it. This bloke is like the nightmare combination of McNeill (incompetent) Turner (massively out of his depth) and DOL (enormous gobshite). It can't possibly end well. But ultimately I blame Lerner for not being able to see the brain-stuntingly fucking obvious.
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He actually said "we were playing Arsenal today, one of the elite clubs" in the Beeb interview. He actually said it.
How on earth does saying such a thing lift or inspire a club and its fans? Does any other manager actually use this "elite clubs" term? Tabloid journalists talk this kind of disrespectful shite but our manager? What message does it send to the kids? The Gary Gardners of this world are soon going to be saying to themselves, "I need to be playing for an 'elite' club."
This kind of lack of motivational nous worries me - and annoys me - greatly. If anything, it is when he says this kind of stuff that I really want him gone from the club.
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Being a man or two down dose'nt mean you have to throw in experience. Heskey just seemed to be playing the role as an extra man on the pitch. Weimann came on and played like a striker and it made such a difference.
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I can't see anything more than surrender coming up in the next few games.
It's difficult to see where any points are coming from in the next 8 games. Maybe Albion and Norwich, but I wouldn't want to bet on it.
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That team were beaten before they went on the pitch yesterday. We are now so small time it makes me want to weep. He is sucking the life out of the club.
There is no doubt he has written off the remaining games this season v Chelsea, Liverpool, United and Spurs and relying on scratching enough points from the other five. That is so dangerous.
We are heading for our lowest points total since 86/87 and we will only be saved by the paucity of the teams below us.
I reckon it will be very very close.
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Each time he plays Heskey is another nail in his coffin as far as I'm concerned.
How many times does that have to fail before he stops doing it.
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If those comments about Weimann are true then it defies believe. Weimann was very good IMO.
And some people think this is a man who can bring through our young players when he criticises them unfairly?
Eh? Having watched the link he actually says that Weimann made a difference when he came on. Okay he did say that "normally he'd have gone for goal" about the pass/shot that went across the goal, but that's hardly undermining the kid!
Exactly. But it's open fire on the poor ****** at the moment so people are looking for offence when there isn't any there. Although that ''elite club'' phrase does severely piss me off. It may be true but it's not the thing to be mentioning every time we play them.
I don't buy the ''we're lucky that the standard is so low this season and there's 5 teams even worse than us'' line. I don't see anyone cut adrift á la the likes of Derby, Sunderland and Swindon in the past.
Aren't we unlucky that two of the promoted teams actually have great managers with a philosophy that makes-up for a lack of star players? Otherwise we'd be two places higher. We are 15th because that's how good/bad/indifferent we are. I expect that to improve, if not by much, between now and the end of the season.