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Title: Press etc
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 05, 2012, 09:42:59 AM
This week's measured response.

http://www.thebirminghampress.com/2012/03/05/wild-rovers/
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 05, 2012, 09:53:27 AM
Good.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Chris Harte on March 05, 2012, 10:29:16 AM
"I daresay the same was thought in Blackburn when the Venkys took over."
...and in Aston when Lerner pitched up with a marketing team making proclaimations about Bright Futures.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: OzVilla on March 05, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
I don't want Randy to sell because he's not rich enough and I don't doubt that he wants the Villa to do well. 

It's more to do with the way we lack direction and his appalling selections when it comes to football Managers.  With better selections and we could've spent less and achieved more.

I'm sure he's a great guy but I don't think he's cut out for English Premier League football ownership. 
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 05, 2012, 10:47:00 AM
"I daresay the same was thought in Blackburn when the Venkys took over."
...and in Aston when Lerner pitched up with a marketing team making proclaimations about Bright Futures.


...then put in £200 million.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Duncan Shaw on March 05, 2012, 10:52:51 AM
Another nail on head article Dave.  Mind you, it must be easy to write, do you just use the same template every week at the moment?
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 05, 2012, 10:55:07 AM
Another nail on head article Dave.  Mind you, it must be easy to write, do you just use the same template every week at the moment?

It's harder to write the same thing every week than find fresh angles. Oh for the days when we had Collymore, Curcic, Bosnich & Milosevic in the same team.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: brontebilly on March 05, 2012, 11:02:32 AM
"I daresay the same was thought in Blackburn when the Venkys took over."
...and in Aston when Lerner pitched up with a marketing team making proclaimations about Bright Futures.


...then put in £200 million.

how much of that £200m was in the form of loans which the club has to pay with back with interest to RAL?
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 05, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
"I daresay the same was thought in Blackburn when the Venkys took over."
...and in Aston when Lerner pitched up with a marketing team making proclaimations about Bright Futures.


...then put in £200 million.

how much of that £200m was in the form of loans which the club has to pay with back with interest to RAL?

We'll have to see when the time comes. See earlier comments on this subject.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 05, 2012, 11:14:55 AM
He's already written about half off/swapped it for equity.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Damo70 on March 05, 2012, 03:39:12 PM
I don't like to get sucked into moaning about the media having it in for us post MON era but two comments over the weekend really wound me up. Firstly, even though a number of people in the various media named their goalkeeper as man of the match and it was them who got a late eqaualiser, apparently "Villa snatched a draw at Blackburn". Secondly, although we got a point and of the five teams we have below us by a reasonable number of points, two equalled our point and the other three lost, "Villa got sucked deeper into relegation trouble". Then just when you think you can rely on DW and The Birmingham Press for accuracy, he goes and spells Noel Brotherston's name wrong (sorry, can't do winky's or smiley's)!
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: frank on March 05, 2012, 04:45:51 PM
Good article, Dave. While we've obviously been left behind by teams like Chelsea and Man City, many feel that being owned by a billionaire owner like Abramovich, with his 8 managers in 9 years, is a not price worth paying for success. In any case, as Blackburn fans have discovered, there aren't many such owners and perhaps never will be. What is more important is that we are able to compete with teams like Newcastle, Everton and Spurs who haven't got super-rich backers and that Randy ensures that we have the right management team, on and off the field, to achieve this. Perhaps we have. In O'Neill's first season we went through a dreadful period at this time of year. Despite our good start, after 27 games we had won 7 and had 32 points (which would have been our position today if it hadn't been for Paul Robinson!). I haven't made my mind up about McLeish, but I can see the argument for letting him build his own squad in the summer. It will be interesting to see to what extent Randy, who is not super-rich but probably better off than most PL owners, will back him financially.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: TopDeck113 on March 05, 2012, 07:37:06 PM
Always enjoy reading your pieces on a Monday, Dave.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: PeterWithe on March 05, 2012, 07:42:11 PM
Aren't the majority of Spurs' shares owned by a multi-billionaire financier? I forget his name.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Shrek on March 05, 2012, 07:49:28 PM
Joe Lewis?
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Villanation on March 05, 2012, 07:51:36 PM
Good article, Dave. While we've obviously been left behind by teams like Chelsea and Man City, many feel that being owned by a billionaire owner like Abramovich, with his 8 managers in 9 years, is a not price worth paying for success. In any case, as Blackburn fans have discovered, there aren't many such owners and perhaps never will be. What is more important is that we are able to compete with teams like Newcastle, Everton and Spurs who haven't got super-rich backers and that Randy ensures that we have the right management team, on and off the field, to achieve this. Perhaps we have. In O'Neill's first season we went through a dreadful period at this time of year. Despite our good start, after 27 games we had won 7 and had 32 points (which would have been our position today if it hadn't been for Paul Robinson!). I haven't made my mind up about McLeish, but I can see the argument for letting him build his own squad in the summer. It will be interesting to see to what extent Randy, who is not super-rich but probably better off than most PL owners, will back him financially.

The problem is Aston Villa clearly have very very limited funds, its being rumored today that RL has told AM to start looking for freebies to sign in the summer, that's how little money there is, and even if we had a transfer kitty, with dwindling coffers would you trust our last best hope in the hands of McLiesh, no chance for me.

I don't agree with the point made in the article about poor finishing, other than Hutton on the right who had no chance in a reign of pigs pudding of getting a goal and the Gabby header, which you can only come to the conclusion was spot on, Gabby got that right out the coaching manual bang on right, he got his height right made perfect contact and with the keeper adjacent headed the ball down being exactly the right place, to say anything else takes away from Robinson what was a world class save, doubt very much Gabby thought s1ht, should have got that one, more a case of how the **** did he get that.

Other than that i'm struggling to remember a real clear cut chance.
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Californian Villain on March 05, 2012, 07:52:05 PM
Aren't the majority of Spurs' shares owned by a multi-billionaire financier? I forget his name.

Joe Lewis
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: spangley1812 on March 05, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
Good article, Dave. While we've obviously been left behind by teams like Chelsea and Man City, many feel that being owned by a billionaire owner like Abramovich, with his 8 managers in 9 years, is a not price worth paying for success. In any case, as Blackburn fans have discovered, there aren't many such owners and perhaps never will be. What is more important is that we are able to compete with teams like Newcastle, Everton and Spurs who haven't got super-rich backers and that Randy ensures that we have the right management team, on and off the field, to achieve this. Perhaps we have. In O'Neill's first season we went through a dreadful period at this time of year. Despite our good start, after 27 games we had won 7 and had 32 points (which would have been our position today if it hadn't been for Paul Robinson!). I haven't made my mind up about McLeish, but I can see the argument for letting him build his own squad in the summer. It will be interesting to see to what extent Randy, who is not super-rich but probably better off than most PL owners, will back him financially.

The problem is Aston Villa clearly have very very limited funds, its being rumored today that RL has told AM to start looking for freebies to sign in the summer, that's how little money there is, and even if we had a transfer kitty, with dwindling coffers would you trust our last best hope in the hands of McLiesh, no chance for me.

I don't agree with the point made in the article about poor finishing, other than Hutton on the right who had no chance in a reign of pigs pudding of getting a goal and the Gabby header, which you can only come to the conclusion was spot on, Gabby got that right out the coaching manual bang on right, he got his height right made perfect contact and with the keeper adjacent headed the ball down being exactly the right place, to say anything else takes away from Robinson what was a world class save, doubt very much Gabby thought s1ht, should have got that one, more a case of how the **** did he get that.

Other than that i'm struggling to remember a real clear cut chance.

The one that N'Zogbia had in the 1st half about 7 yards out when he hit it almost straight at Robinson
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Villanation on March 05, 2012, 07:57:05 PM
Good article, Dave. While we've obviously been left behind by teams like Chelsea and Man City, many feel that being owned by a billionaire owner like Abramovich, with his 8 managers in 9 years, is a not price worth paying for success. In any case, as Blackburn fans have discovered, there aren't many such owners and perhaps never will be. What is more important is that we are able to compete with teams like Newcastle, Everton and Spurs who haven't got super-rich backers and that Randy ensures that we have the right management team, on and off the field, to achieve this. Perhaps we have. In O'Neill's first season we went through a dreadful period at this time of year. Despite our good start, after 27 games we had won 7 and had 32 points (which would have been our position today if it hadn't been for Paul Robinson!). I haven't made my mind up about McLeish, but I can see the argument for letting him build his own squad in the summer. It will be interesting to see to what extent Randy, who is not super-rich but probably better off than most PL owners, will back him financially.

The problem is Aston Villa clearly have very very limited funds, its being rumored today that RL has told AM to start looking for freebies to sign in the summer, that's how little money there is, and even if we had a transfer kitty, with dwindling coffers would you trust our last best hope in the hands of McLiesh, no chance for me.

I don't agree with the point made in the article about poor finishing, other than Hutton on the right who had no chance in a reign of pigs pudding of getting a goal and the Gabby header, which you can only come to the conclusion was spot on, Gabby got that right out the coaching manual bang on right, he got his height right made perfect contact and with the keeper adjacent headed the ball down being exactly the right place, to say anything else takes away from Robinson what was a world class save, doubt very much Gabby thought s1ht, should have got that one, more a case of how the **** did he get that.

Other than that i'm struggling to remember a real clear cut chance.

The one that N'Zogbia had in the 1st half about 7 yards out when he hit it almost straight at Robinson

I was in the toilet for that one  ;)
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: nigel on March 05, 2012, 07:59:41 PM
Good article Dave.
I've mentioned on other threads that AMcL should have this season as a freebee. Given he lost our 3 best players before the season started, and wasn't really able to replace, it was always going to be a struggle.
He's got to be given the chance to build 'His' team, not continue with half of MO'Ns team.
Had Houlier stayed I'm sure most of them would have gone by now and probably be playing some decent football.
Let's hope we're just running a season behind!
Title: Re: Press etc
Post by: Somniloquism on March 05, 2012, 08:50:04 PM
<Pedantic> I thought I should let you know you have an errant Either in:-

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Randy Lerner invested another £25 million during the year, although some would say that he should either be putting more into the club.

</Pedantic>

At least next week the angle could be on getting decent loanees in or free agents when Pog or Diarra spoil our win streak.

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