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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Pete on February 13, 2012, 02:26:22 PM
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According to the Guardian, Richard Dunne's injury is a fractured shoulder, and he will be out for up to eight weeks.
(Although, the headline says shoulder but the report mentions his clavicle - isn't that the collarbone? Not that it makes much difference I suppose).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/13/aston-villa-richard-dunne-injury (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/13/aston-villa-richard-dunne-injury)
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He played well yesterday by this seasons standards but apart from the fact we have also lost Clark for a few weeks I can't say I'm that bothered and it's not like he's any better than Collins or Cuellar. He's been awful this season.
Still, get well soon Dunney. The two week break will at least give us time to rest Clark up.
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On a positive note Herd is back in full training and will be available for Wigan ,which is A relief as he can step straight into Clarks shoes
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On a positive note Herd is back in full training and will be available for Wigan ,which is A relief as he can step straight into Clarks shoes
I imagine he'd look better in Skechers, or maybe some of those wellies that look like frogs
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---------------Given----------------
Hutton---Carlos---Collins---Baker
--------Gardner---Petrov---------
---Nzog-----Keane----Gabby-----
--------------Bent------------------
Herd on for Petrov and Ireland on for Bent allowing Gabby some time upfront and also to rest Bent a bit.
It's a good opportunity to test Baker for an extended run. Once Clark is fit (and we have some more points) we could also drop Collins to really test out youth players.
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fuck me, how much weight will he pile on in 2 months !!
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
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On a positive note Herd is back in full training and will be available for Wigan ,which is A relief as he can step straight into Clarks shoes
I imagine he'd look better in Skechers, or maybe some of those wellies that look like frogs
Well whatever shied they are he'd have to wrestle them off Gardner ;)
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Warnock responded well to being dropped when he came on against Wolves. Not saying I want him to be recalled, but fighting for his place may have a positive impact.
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Lichaj can play at left back
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
When was the last time you posted anything of a positive nature? You must hang around this site waiting for the Villa to lose so you can descend like a sooth sayer bleating and moaning.
What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
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I still can't work out how the ref gave a foul against Dunne when challenging for the ball that lead to his injury. Odd decision in the extreme.
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What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Personally, I knock one out to 'Christabel'. Filthy.
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Get well soon Tonney. Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery. Think we'll miss him (hope I'm wrong)
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i personally think he will be missed. Dont think he has been the worst player this season by a long way.
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What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Personally, I knock one out to 'Christabel'. Filthy.
Kubla Khan for me!
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
When was the last time you posted anything of a positive nature? You must hang around this site waiting for the Villa to lose so you can descend like a sooth sayer bleating and moaning.
What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Ok then.
McLeish is a good manager and we're gonna win the quadruple with his masterful positive tactics next season. Positive enough for you? Or shall we go back down to reality?
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I still can't work out how the ref gave a foul against Dunne when challenging for the ball that lead to his injury. Odd decision in the extreme.
A bit like the goal kick awarded after Harald Schumacher broke a French player in half.
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
When was the last time you posted anything of a positive nature? You must hang around this site waiting for the Villa to lose so you can descend like a sooth sayer bleating and moaning.
What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Ok then.
McLeish is a good manager and we're gonna win the quadruple with his masterful positive tactics next season. Positive enough for you? Or shall we go back down to reality?
What if the reality is a mixture of both positives and negatives? What if some people don't take the extreme view like you do all the feckin'time?
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i personally think he will be missed. Dont think he has been the worst player this season by a long way.
That's not really a great accolade!
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
When was the last time you posted anything of a positive nature? You must hang around this site waiting for the Villa to lose so you can descend like a sooth sayer bleating and moaning.
What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Ok then.
McLeish is a good manager and we're gonna win the quadruple with his masterful positive tactics next season. Positive enough for you? Or shall we go back down to reality?
You don't get it do you?
Every post of yours is negative.
When we have had decent displays or results, you've sunk back under the surface only to pop up like a freshly squeezed zit on a rugby player's arse when we lose.
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Could go one way or the other. Blessing in disguise that's he's out for 2 months and we become solid at the back, but the more likely thing to happen is we carry on like we are and struggle until Easter.
Just noticed in the sun that we really are crap from corners! We haven't scored once and conceded 11!
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
When was the last time you posted anything of a positive nature? You must hang around this site waiting for the Villa to lose so you can descend like a sooth sayer bleating and moaning.
What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Ok then.
McLeish is a good manager and we're gonna win the quadruple with his masterful positive tactics next season. Positive enough for you? Or shall we go back down to reality?
What if the reality is a mixture of both positives and negatives? What if some people don't take the extreme view like you do all the feckin'time?
I'm positive with Ireland's impact lately. But now he's been dropped and we look shit without him. Why has he been dropped?
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Expected as much, looked a horrible fall. Not good news at all right now - we need Clark's 'a few weeks out' to be two or three, or we're looking at Cuellar-Collins with Baker as the only back-up. Not great timing to be missing Dunne, with crucial games ahead at a critical point in the season.
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
When was the last time you posted anything of a positive nature? You must hang around this site waiting for the Villa to lose so you can descend like a sooth sayer bleating and moaning.
What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Ok then.
McLeish is a good manager and we're gonna win the quadruple with his masterful positive tactics next season. Positive enough for you? Or shall we go back down to reality?
I'm not a moderator so I'm not speaking for the masses but please try and make your posts at least a small amount constructive. You don't like McLeish, we get it.
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
When was the last time you posted anything of a positive nature? You must hang around this site waiting for the Villa to lose so you can descend like a sooth sayer bleating and moaning.
What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Ok then.
McLeish is a good manager and we're gonna win the quadruple with his masterful positive tactics next season. Positive enough for you? Or shall we go back down to reality?
You don't get it do you?
Every post of yours is negative.
When we have had decent displays or results, you've sunk back under the surface only to pop up like a freshly squeezed zit on a rugby player's arse when we lose.
In the Man City pre-thread, I put us down as 2-1 win. Silly me eh? Trying to be positive that McLeish will go for the win.
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In the Man City pre-thread, I put us down as 2-1 win. Silly me eh? Trying to be positive that McLeish will go for the win.
And you've made 51 posts since, all negative. Thanks for dropping by.
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I still can't work out how the ref gave a foul against Dunne when challenging for the ball that lead to his injury. Odd decision in the extreme.
A bit like the goal kick awarded after Harald Schumacher broke a French player in half.
Don't keepers have to be "under control" when making a challenge in the same way was outfield players ?
I think that it was a penalty
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How much you wanna bet he'll start Warnock again now that our next 2 league games are away? More reason for him to do it now that Dunne is injured. He won't have the guts to use Baker.
When was the last time you posted anything of a positive nature? You must hang around this site waiting for the Villa to lose so you can descend like a sooth sayer bleating and moaning.
What do you do for light relief? Pull yourself off to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
Ok then.
McLeish is a good manager and we're gonna win the quadruple with his masterful positive tactics next season. Positive enough for you? Or shall we go back down to reality?
You don't get it do you?
Every post of yours is negative.
When we have had decent displays or results, you've sunk back under the surface only to pop up like a freshly squeezed zit on a rugby player's arse when we lose.
In the Man City pre-thread, I put us down as 2-1 win. Silly me eh? Trying to be positive that McLeish will go for the win.
(http://images.wikia.com/dadsarmy/images/4/4d/Frazerdm1112_228x374.jpg)
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Rotten stroke of luck Clark is out at the same time, would have been good to give him a go in central defence with Herd returning.
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Why sign Stevens if he is no better than Lichaj/ Baker, lets give him a chance. I think Gardner is better than Herd in central midfield too.
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Collins and Cuellar are not renowned for their durability. Lose either one of them and we really are in trouble, with only a very raw rookie to call on.
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Give Baker a chance first,if that doesnt work Warnock will have to come back into left back and Cuellar move across
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Get welly soon Dunney, i don't think he has played that bad to be honest. Out of our back four he is the one which will be missed more than the others.
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For all his faults, and there are plenty, we'll miss him.
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feel Strange about Dunne not being there even though i have many times thought he is clumsy and slow. Thought Cuellar had a great game as left back ......................
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Cuellar was outstanding again.
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Shocking news. We'll just have to hold our breath and hope no other star players get injured. If Heskey gets crocked as well, we'll really be in trouble
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Why sign Stevens if he is no better than Lichaj/ Baker, lets give him a chance. I think Gardner is better than Herd in central midfield too.
I saw stevens against spurs when he was at shamrock rovers... Quite an introduction to the premiership (even though it was a europa match). He was out-done several times and seemed to lack a bit of pace.
Plus when he joined he said he would try and learn as much as possible off Warnock... eeek! ;)
Baker first I reckon... Shift Carlos into the middle.
Get well soon Dunney Monster.
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Collins and Cuellar looked a solid pair at Wolves away last season and providing they stay fit, they should do ok.
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Collins and Cuellar looked a solid pair at Wolves away last season and providing they stay fit, they should do ok.
I agree with you Clampy.
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Shocking news. We'll just have to hold our breath and hope no other star players get injured. If Heskey gets crocked as well, we'll really be in trouble
Hehehe.
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Hmm, I recall a certain ginger manager losing two centre backs to injury towards the end of last season, and it didn't end well. Mind you, I suspect we'll concede fewer penalities without Dunney's raging bull impression rampaging around the box. Although Warnock's unguided missile impression might compensate.
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I guess we'll get to see if cuellar is as reliable as many feel. I've always had my doubts - as a centre half - but lets hope that's wrong
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Baker must be in with a shout of coming in at left back with Cuellar shuffling across. One of the few bright spots on the horrible game at the weekend was not seeing Warnock feck up 18 times in the first 5 minutes.
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Collins and Cuellar looked a solid pair at Wolves away last season and providing they stay fit, they should do ok.
That was a superb defensive performance. Then I'm sure Cuellar was dropped straight after.
Hutton Cuellar Collins Baker should be good enough against the next few teams that are ever so slightly worse than us.
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Baker must be in with a shout of coming in at left back with Cuellar shuffling across. One of the few bright spots on the horrible game at the weekend was not seeing Warnock feck up 18 times in the first 5 minutes.
In the corresponding fixture against Wigan last year, Baker played left back and did ok - which is all he needs to to to improve the team.
A year on he should be a better player, although I doubt it.
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This can only spell trouble.
Two months of him lying on his sofa stuffing endless packets of Bourbons and Wagon Wheels into his fat talking piece.
He'll be about 22 stone by the time he's ready to come back.
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You mean he'll actually lose some timber then?
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You mean he'll actually lose some timber then?
Haha. Good stuff.
I'd imagine Dunne's season is over.
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N'zogbia would play at LB if we really got desperate I'd reckon.
Hopefully Collins and Cuellar will stay fit for Wigan and then Clark should come back into contention after that. Herd could play at CB aswell.
Can't see it making much difference, we don't keep clean sheets as it is so I'd rather the strikers stay fit.
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I'm not too worried to be honest. There's not really anyone in our side who's done enough this season to count themselves as indispensible, least of all one of our defenders. Dunne's been stinking average, standing above the terrible performers alongside him at the back this season.
I'd like to see Carlos get a run. Baker could play centre-back, maybe allow Lichaj at left back because he's got a little bit of pace, at least in comparison to Carlos or Baker playing FB. I wouldn't want Warnock back.
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brontebilly will miss him, he rates him higher than anyone on here.
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brontebilly will miss him, he rates him higher than anyone on here.
I seem to be the only one that rates him on here :)
anyway we will get a chance to see how Carlos Cuellar really is the second coming of Bobby Moore over the next few weeks in his absence.
Very slack now in terms of cover at centre half now. Collins has had a couple of niggling injuries of late too. Left back is a bomb zone. Thank god for Hutton :o
With little protection in midfield, we will really need to seriously increase our goals scored tally until the end of the season.