Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: saunders_heroes on February 03, 2012, 07:18:47 PM
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Just what's their problem with the Villa? The whole sports dept seems to be anti Villa for some reason, and that's not the paranoia speaking believe me. They seem to be wallowing in our shit season and they're practically taking the piss out of us with constant digs. Even after a win they'll take a negative slant at things. For example, right after we beat Chelsea 3-1 in their own back yard the first thing Paul ("call me Franksy") Franks said, "Villa win 3-1 but will Bent be here at the end of January". You could hear the pain in Mark Regan's voice when Villa hit back at Wolves the other week, and it almost killed him when Keane hit the winner. Even the other night they claimed we were "probably a bit better second half against QPR" even when we absolutely battered them and scored two fantastic goals, and they hardly mentioned the clear cut pens we should have been awarded.
They've been like this with Villa for a few seasons now but they seem to be getting worse.
I know we've been pretty shite this season but that's mainly down to our awful defence, but other than that I think we've some decent football and scored some cracking goals. According to WM though we're akin to Wimbledon of the 1980s.
Thoughts?
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
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I don't see it myself. They're not meant to be cheerleaders for the club and will exagerate the negative as well as the positive to provoke a reaction from the supporters and initiate phone calls. It's the same for all clubs, the media will never match the opinion of the fans.
Local coverage, however patchy the quality, should be cherished or the alternative will be Murray, Savage and the radio equivalent of Sky Sports news.
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I think - and have mentioned before - that WM now find getting information out of the club much more difficult since the Randy Lerner takeover. The club have made their job more difficult and WM are reacting against this. I don't think ths is confined to WM though as Pat Murphy on Five Live has also more negative about Villa in recent years, even more so since Martin O'Neill left.
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
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I really do try to look at them objectively, but they do seem to go out of their way to exaggerate our bad points and ignore the good ones. How anyone can say our last three games have been boring is beyond me - we've scored at least twice in each of them for a start.
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I've had my suspicions about Radio WM for a while. I can remember us beating Wigan 4-0 when Steve Bruce managed them and all they wanted to talk about was that our zonal marking system didn't work (despite us successfully defending every setpiece and not conceding a goal), how lucky we were to score four goals and about how great Steve Bruce was. They never seem to say anything positive about us whatever we do, and as such I very rarely listen to their commentary now.
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I listen to that phone in every week.They are completely biased towards the other teams. However Franks does tend to defend Mcleish. Is it me or is it the same callers every week. Paul the bluenose from Shrewsbury and the same Walsall fan phones up every single week
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I would be interested to see the places across the area where WM have their highest concentration of listeners. From their output and apparent leanings I would assume more people listen in the Black Country than in the Birmingham area.
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Haters gon' hate.
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Simple answer – stop listening to the shite.
I stopped insulting my ears with it years ago.
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Could it be that the other teams around us are never expected to amount to much, we are the big fish in our domain and should be able to match it with the best, we are supporters so we take umbrage but to the general populace we are a constant disappointment.
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Years ago I would religiously listen to the friday night 6 o clock phone in on Radio wm but in recent times there has been a definate shift against us and I just cant be arsed to listen anymore, no matter what we do they are very down about us and you would never know we have been the west midlands top club since god knows when.
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Years ago I would religiously listen to the friday night 6 o clock phone in on Radio wm but in recent times there has been a definate shift against us and I just cant be arsed to listen anymore, no matter what we do they are very down about us and you would never know we have been the west midlands top club since god knows when.
The radio phone in is a dying animal, hence the same callers being put on air time after time. At one time it was the only forum to air your views (apart from the pub) and the only place to hear others. Now there are numerous outlets and radio is being left behind.
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I listen to that phone in every week.They are completely biased towards the other teams. However Franks does tend to defend Mcleish. Is it me or is it the same callers every week. Paul the bluenose from Shrewsbury and the same Walsall fan phones up every single week
The bluenose who says mate every other three words.
"Its like watching Barcelona mate"
"We're going up mate"
"Can I have a bronx hat mate,sorry Paul mate I thought you were Tom mate"
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I work with and know all the Wm presenters so I can bring some of these points to their attention if anyone was interested
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Radio Wolves Media.
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I listen to that phone in every week.They are completely biased towards the other teams. However Franks does tend to defend Mcleish. Is it me or is it the same callers every week. Paul the bluenose from Shrewsbury and the same Walsall fan phones up every single week
The bluenose who says mate every other three words.
"Its like watching Barcelona mate"
"We're going up mate"
"Can I have a bronx hat mate,sorry Paul mate I thought you were Tom mate"
*shudders*
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I don't detect any anti-Villa feeling off WM but it does come across as a Wolves station nowadays. I listened to the goals on the following Monday after our game against Wolves and did it sound as if a non midland team had scored against them.
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I stopped listening to all local radio years ago, they're all as bad as each other.
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Hardly like when we were in the European Cup and those at home told me that Tony Butler was calling for 'all Viila fans, get on your knees and Hail Saunders of the Villa.'
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I listen to that phone in every week.They are completely biased towards the other teams. However Franks does tend to defend Mcleish. Is it me or is it the same callers every week. Paul the bluenose from Shrewsbury and the same Walsall fan phones up every single week
We get Dave from Bloxwich representing us.
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I drove passed the Drakes Drum today and it took me back to the BRMB phone in days when Ashok (I think) used to call in from the DD and take the piss out of Rom Toss. I believe he is now resting in peace (Ashok that is).
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I drove passed the Drakes Drum today and it took me back to the BRMB phone in days when Ashok (I think) used to call in from the DD and take the piss out of Rom Toss. I believe he is now resting in peace (Ashok that is).
Quite a few years ago.
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It's appalling radio - I continue to subject myself to it driving home from work just on the off change they have uncovered some jouranlistic revelation. I think the last, & indeed only time they did this was when they broke the news of the signing of Sasa Curcic upon hearing which I genuinely punched the air with delight.
I can't listen to Franks - appalling broadcaster who says 'Er' all the time. No fluency.
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Mebbe just me but i've always thought WM was mainly concerned about Westbrom/Wolves while BRMB was Villa/Blose. Probably a not deliberate policy by either station but thats how it panned out with thel ikes of tom ross and george gavin
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They make a drama out of everything, that is their policy. And another thing they spend about 15 minutes at the start of every show explaining what type of calls they are looking for, then they get about 6 callers (the exact same ones every night) in. Plus a text or email from Ann in Wolverhampton, the thick cow sometimes makes an appearance on the phone.
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Remember that woman who was on when we signed Darren Bent, saying we should have got Kenny Miller on loan?
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Lee, the Albion fan.
Roight, I'll tell you this about the Albion, Franksy (insert five minute, close to tears, diatribe here). Ta'ra. *slams down phone*
Every pissing week. I'm sure he phones Tom Ross as well.
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Lee, the Albion fan.
Roight, I'll tell you this about the Albion, Franksy (insert five minute, close to tears, diatribe here). Ta'ra. *slams down phone*
Every pissing week. I'm sure he phones Tom Ross as well.
Is he the one with the high-pitched voice?
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I tried to get through once I really wanted to abuse the franksy bastard. He's anti villa bollocks was infuriating me, I think that's why he does it. I just don't listen now
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They're all Wolves fans at WM I reckon.
Generally speaking I prefer BBC to commercial media, but in the case of local football I prefer Tom Ross. He is out front that he is a bluenose but genuinly backs all our teams, I know he does go on a bit about it at times. I get the impression he has good standing with all the clubs and gets a bit more reliable information from the club.
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They're all Wolves fans at WM I reckon.
Generally speaking I prefer BBC to commercial media, but in the case of local football I prefer Tom Ross. He is out front that he is a bluenose but genuinly backs all our teams, I know he does go on a bit about it at times. I get the impression he has good standing with all the clubs and gets a bit more reliable information from the club.
I used to like listening when Bruce was at the sty. When their report came on from an away game, Bruce would go into the commentary box and would always be panting, as if it was his last breath.
Tom's brother is a diehard Villa fan, of course.
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When's this phone in on? It sounds hilarious. Can one listen online?
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Lee, the Albion fan.
Roight, I'll tell you this about the Albion, Franksy (insert five minute, close to tears, diatribe here). Ta'ra. *slams down phone*
Every pissing week. I'm sure he phones Tom Ross as well.
Is he the one with the high-pitched voice?
That's him. Talks an hundred miles and hours and sounds as if he's going to burst into a sobbing wailing fit.
'Tom eeeeeee's goorra goooooo'.
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They're all Wolves fans at WM I reckon.
Generally speaking I prefer BBC to commercial media, but in the case of local football I prefer Tom Ross. He is out front that he is a bluenose but genuinly backs all our teams, I know he does go on a bit about it at times. I get the impression he has good standing with all the clubs and gets a bit more reliable information from the club.
That's my problem with Tom Ross, he tows the club line. He won't upset the applecart for fear of losing his priveleged access.
There's a young Villa fan that regularly calls the WM phone in. They seem to be about 13 years old and are so passionate about the Villa that it always raises a smile.
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Remember that woman who was on when we signed Darren Bent, saying we should have got Kenny Miller on loan?
That was the first time I actually considered the notion that they were paying people to phone up to wind up the audience.
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When's this phone in on? It sounds hilarious. Can one listen online?
Yes one.
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Radio WM are a fantastic locally produced station why do some people seem to think otherwise? The station as a whole give each time a fair share of the airwaves If I am right in thinking they currently air more local games than any other station in the Midlands. The presenters all have their favourite team etc but isn;t that human nature? Mark Regan is a blue nose, Daz Hale a Wolves fan. For christ sake it's a radio station why all the negative moaning?
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When's this phone in on? It sounds hilarious. Can one listen online?
Yes one.
HA!! Like it!
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
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Radio WM are a fantastic locally produced station why do some people seem to think otherwise? The station as a whole give each time a fair share of the airwaves If I am right in thinking they currently air more local games than any other station in the Midlands. The presenters all have their favourite team etc but isn;t that human nature? Mark Regan is a blue nose, Daz Hale a Wolves fan. For christ sake it's a radio station why all the negative moaning?
Welcome to the site Mr Franks
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
Looks like someone from WM has signed up to the site.
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Remember that woman who was on when we signed Darren Bent, saying we should have got Kenny Miller on loan?
That was the first time I actually considered the notion that they were paying people to phone up to wind up the audience.
I'd always thought that there was a direct line between WM and Rampton.
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When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
The Wolves game was very good, an exciting Derby won by two cracking goals from Keane.
The Arse game was frustrating because we threw away a 2 goal lead but apart from 20 minutes of defensive madness just after half-time we did well, containing Arse and counter-attacking nicely, we then could have grabbed an equaliser once we settled back into that mode.
Against QPR we were excellent, 70% possession? 20 odd shots on goal? At least two stonewall penalties turned down? If we had won that 6-2 QPR couldn't have complained.
That's what I have been watching, we are getting better, you carry on having a downer on your club (probably, although you'll deny it, because we appointed a Blooz manager), I'll see the positives and enjoy my football thanks.
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No one is saying its been a great season. In fact it's been shit, but to claim its the most boring team in the most boring Villa season ever is bollocks. We've been involved in some fine games and at times played some good football. That doesn't fit into WM's anti Villa agenda though. They want to push the myth that we play constant hoof football so they can satisfy their pro Small Heath agenda. The snide sneering digs they aim at Villa are constant, where as over at the Sty they play like Brazil of 1970 despite the fact that they've bored the pants off us every time they've been on TV.
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
Looks like someone from WM has signed up to the site.
Not all all but why would you think that the station is biased? Have you been banned from phoning the station or something!
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No one is saying its been a great season. In fact it's been shit, but to claim its the most boring team in the most boring Villa season ever is bollocks. We've been involved in some fine games and at times played some good football. That doesn't fit into WM's anti Villa agenda though. They want to push the myth that we play constant hoof football so they can satisfy their pro Small Heath agenda. The snide sneering digs they aim at Villa are constant, where as over at the Sty they play like Brazil of 1970 despite the fact that they've bored the pants off us every time they've been on TV.
Now now calm down it's a forum and you know better than to make comments that the moderators do not like otherwise they will ban you. Big brother is watching us.
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I see nothing objectionable about what he's saying.
Which bit are you complaining about?
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
Looks like someone from WM has signed up to the site.
Not all all but why would you think that the station is biased? Have you been banned from phoning the station or something!
Because they constantly put Villa down. Didn't you bother reading the rest of the thread before you posted or something!
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The best thing I can say about them is that they go out of their way to create a controversy that isn't there in reality. Such as if we don't win for a game it will be (in a dramatic voice) 'Crisis time at Villa Park, that's no win in one for them, the defence is a shambles, they're definitely going backwards under the Judas, I mean McLeish.'
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For those who want to understand it, here is Monday's phone in following the defeat at the Arse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p00nbskw
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Can you imagine Radio Merseyside being anti-Everton? Or Radio Solent anti-Portsmouth. No.
WM reguarly do Villa a disservice and are not fulfilling their mandate of being a local broadcaster.
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Agree 100% that WM are massively anti Villa, been like it for a few seasons now but its getting worse. At the start of the season they were quoting that the Wolves squad was 'at least as good as Villa's', they have gone quiet on that score now though.
Franksy is a blue nose for a fact, i remember him confirming the fact he was in the 70's during the days of Tim Russon when he was only a junior reporter.
Regan has also confirmed he is DEFINATELY not a Villa fan, he is from Redditch so who does he support?
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The league table doesn't lie and it hasn't been a great season. But I'm not going to pretend that it hasn't been without its good points. I throughly enjoyed the home games against Arsenal and QPR, as although the results weren't great, we played with a flair and attacking intent that was good to see. In a perverse way, I'm also enjoying the comedy defending of Hutton and Warnock. Just when you think they can't sink any lower, they find a new way to surprise you!
McLeish is doing about as well as I expected given the circumstances he's operating under.
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I realised a long time ago that, in the W Midlands, we are there to be shot down due to our history and large support. We're the biggest club in the area by a mile with, until recently, an amazing record in local derbies.
Of course they are going to take a pop at us when we falter. I love their jealousy!!!!
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I occasionally listen to WM for commentaries only, and very rarely stay tuned in to the phone ins simply because the negativity is too much too take some times. Personally I find they now seem to have an agenda...and that agenda is being contraversial. Most of the time I listen (more specifically during commentaries) they do seem to offer a fair and honest opinion...if we're playing shite then I wont to know, and similarly the will praise the team if we are playing well.
What I do and always have found frustrating...firstly, is that when they criticise the team and manager openly on the airwaves and pose the right questions to be asked to the listener, they then repeatedly fail to ask those very same questions to the manager when they have the chance to during after match interviews. Secondly, they either screen the callers to meet their agenda or fans with more than 2 brain cells simply dont phone in...a casing being most Villa fans I have heard of there end up blaming AM for being a Blue Nose.
At the end of the day, I'd rather a station tell it how it is whether its good or bad. We are the biggest club in the Midlands and have high expections both in the fans and the media, so if we're not meeting standards or performing on the pitch, then we are an easy target and open to criticism.
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Should a local radio station not being trying to sell the undisputed footballing goliath of the region, rather than taking shots at us though? Fucking idiots the lot of 'em.
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Rarely listen to local stations, too many Yam Yams :)
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No one is saying its been a great season. In fact it's been shit, but to claim its the most boring team in the most boring Villa season ever is bollocks. We've been involved in some fine games and at times played some good football. That doesn't fit into WM's anti Villa agenda though. They want to push the myth that we play constant hoof football so they can satisfy their pro Small Heath agenda. The snide sneering digs they aim at Villa are constant, where as over at the Sty they play like Brazil of 1970 despite the fact that they've bored the pants off us every time they've been on TV.
Now now calm down it's a forum and you know better than to make comments that the moderators do not like otherwise they will ban you. Big brother is watching us.
Hang on a minute. Nobody has said anything to you at all, so please don't come on here saying things that just aren't true.
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I don't think it's limited to WM to be honest. I think the Birmingham Mail and BRMB are both painfully anti-Villa.
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Wasn't there an interview with Franks in H&V sometime in the past? Mihjt have been one of the Talking Bout You ones. I'm sure he hinted at being a Villa fan. I'm not imagining that interview am I?
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Wasn't there an interview with Franks in H&V sometime in the past? Mihjt have been one of the Talking Bout You ones. I'm sure he hinted at being a Villa fan. I'm not imagining that interview am I?
There was, and although he didn't hint at it, I've been told on good authority by people who knew him at school that he was Villa then.
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'Crap game wornit?'
'Did you go?'
'No. Couldn't get a ticket.'
That excuse no longer washes!
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
Looks like someone from WM has signed up to the site.
Not all all but why would you think that the station is biased? Have you been banned from phoning the station or something!
Because they constantly put Villa down. Didn't you bother reading the rest of the thread before you posted or something!
Yes I did read the post otherwise I would not have commented. Radio WM DO NOT just put down the Villa whoever is having a bad time on and off the pitch will have comments made. Lets face we are not exactly having a great season or are you another one of these people who think that everyone else on here is wrong. Is there some kind of forum mafia on here? Oh no we cannot say anything that goes against what a moderator thinks. Do moderators sign some kind of allegiance against the rest of the fans. It;s as though you cant have an opinion on here and if you do you either get slated or kicked off.
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I'm thinking you are a raving mentalist.
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Did anyone just hear the fantastic show produced by Radio WM? Ooppps did I mention WM ?? Does anyome else think that there are some right crack pots on here ?
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Oh hello, it looks like we've gone and got ourselves another one. Hope he's as entertaining as dazzyg.
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You know what I love most about this site? I love all the time we spend running it, then someone new comes along and the first time anybody disagrees with them they complain that there's some kind of mafia (it's almost always a mafia), anyone who agrees with me or one of the moderators on any subject is ganging up on them and if they say anything different they're going to get banned.
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Are you moderator is disguise?
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No, it clearly says Moderator above his name. If it is a disguise it is a pretty novel one.
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You know what I love most about this site? I love all the time we spend running it, then someone new comes along and the first time anybody disagrees with them they complain that there's some kind of mafia (it's almost always a mafia), anyone who agrees with me or one of the moderators on any subject is ganging up on them and if they say anything different they're going to get banned.
Well who started the RADIO wm argument off? I could not believe that someone was having a pop at the station. Isn't the idea of media to be critical when needed has anyone on here who thinks WM are biased etc actually tried to do the job? I'm interested to hear what other fans think who maybe have a different opinion to the author of the original post. Are WM a good station? If not why not and maybe some fans may feel that they are decent or maybe fair?
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No, it clearly says Moderator above his name. If it is a disguise it is a pretty novel one.
That question was actually aimed at you Zogman. I am more than capable of reading that DaveWoodhall is a moderator yes I did go to school and can do my three r's.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
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You know what I love most about this site? I love all the time we spend running it, then someone new comes along and the first time anybody disagrees with them they complain that there's some kind of mafia (it's almost always a mafia), anyone who agrees with me or one of the moderators on any subject is ganging up on them and if they say anything different they're going to get banned.
Well who started the RADIO wm argument off? I could not believe that someone was having a pop at the station. Isn't the idea of media to be critical when needed has anyone on here who thinks WM are biased etc actually tried to do the job? I'm interested to hear what other fans think who maybe have a different opinion to the author of the original post. Are WM a good station? If not why not and maybe some fans may feel that they are decent or maybe fair?
So far we're up to five pages of other fans saying what they think. The original poster presumably started this thread because he doesn't like WM's current output and most of us seem to agree with him.
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I agree about WM being a good station as they always speak highly of McLeish.
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No, it clearly says Moderator above his name. If it is a disguise it is a pretty novel one.
Only came on the site by chance today and boy I'm glad I did I didn't realise that such a forum existed where you make a comment and BANG all these people voice their comments but all disagree with anyone new.
This is going to be fun
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No, it clearly says Moderator above his name. If it is a disguise it is a pretty novel one.
Only came on the site by chance today
Every time you tell a lie you make the baby Jesus cry daz.
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WM as a local BBC radio station are very good - they know they have to try and appeal to a wider audience than that held by the commercial music stations and so have carved a more journalistic and sometimes campaigning niche. I don't think many have an issue with their overall output it's just that they appear to have an agenda when covering the biggest ffotball club in their catchment area.
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No, it clearly says Moderator above his name. If it is a disguise it is a pretty novel one.
Only came on the site by chance today and boy I'm glad I did I didn't realise that such a forum existed where you make a comment and BANG all these people voice their comments but all disagree with anyone new.
This is going to be fun
How come it's taken you this long to find us? We've been around a long time.
Oh, welcome to the site!
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You know what I love most about this site? I love all the time we spend running it, then someone new comes along and the first time anybody disagrees with them they complain that there's some kind of mafia (it's almost always a mafia), anyone who agrees with me or one of the moderators on any subject is ganging up on them and if they say anything different they're going to get banned.
Well who started the RADIO wm argument off? I could not believe that someone was having a pop at the station. Isn't the idea of media to be critical when needed has anyone on here who thinks WM are biased etc actually tried to do the job? I'm interested to hear what other fans think who maybe have a different opinion to the author of the original post. Are WM a good station? If not why not and maybe some fans may feel that they are decent or maybe fair?
So far we're up to five pages of other fans saying what they think. The original poster presumably started this thread because he doesn't like WM's current output and most of us seem to agree with him.
Dave McClark five seems to agree with me and he seems to be an old timer on here, well said my friend.
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I do agree with you. Anybody with a good word to say about McLeish is a mate of mine.
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No, it clearly says Moderator above his name. If it is a disguise it is a pretty novel one.
Only came on the site by chance today and boy I'm glad I did I didn't realise that such a forum existed where you make a comment and BANG all these people voice their comments but all disagree with anyone new.
This is going to be fun
How come it's taken you this long to find us? We've been around a long time.
Oh, welcome to the site!
Thankyou
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Nothing better than listening to WM after a game. When you consider you have spent so much on a season ticket but can get good entertainment on WM for free.
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I think what you have to remember that WM have 3 or 4 different presenters on their phone-ins, so each presenter will have a different take which is healthy to say the least. Especially when you consider the thick skined ache on independent radio.
WM will always raise questions on the subject matter. Wolves had it in the neck last week.
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I think what you have to remember that WM have 3 or 4 different presenters on their phone-ins, so each presenter will have a different take which is healthy to say the least. Especially when you consider the thick skined ache on independent radio.
WM will always raise questions on the subject matter. Wolves had it in the neck last week.
But they all seem to be anti Villa, especially Franks and Mark Regan. The latter takes particular pleasure in his snide digs aimed at Villa.
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I think what we what all have to agree on though is we miss the good old days of Tony Butler in his pomp.
Caller - Eh Tone, what about the Villa eh Tone ?
Butler - Well, what about them ?
Caller - We really dooinn great Tone, yer think we can win the league ?
Butler - Do you think they can ?
Caller - Arr I reckon so Tone, eh Tone yer know that Trevor Francis ?
Butler - What about him ?
Caller - He's bloody rubbish he is Tone.
Butler - Oi no swearing on my show, or your on yer bike !
Caller - Soz Tone, he is rubbish though.
Butler - Forget Trev, just go and get yer prayer mat !
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Simple answer – stop listening to the shite.
I stopped insulting my ears with it years ago.
This..
I only listen to them to catch the odd bit of bears commentary but thats only because you cant get it anywhere else.
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Football fans in general think that any given media are against their club. Look at the comments on this site... Meaning Evil, Big Gay Lawro, Pat Murphy, WM. Are they really all against us? I think not. It's a siege mentality... ua against the world. It's easy to pick up the negative comments and ignore the good.
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I agree with SH.
I actually don't mind WM that much, I prefer listening to their commentaries more than BRMB where by the sounds of Tom Ross every time a team goes over the halfway line it's going to be a goal.
I think the problem WM is is doing the phone in every single night, it just used to be on Fridays didn't it? So they need a steady stream of callers every night. So it's easier to be negative for the sake of it as it pretty much guarantees callers.
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Football fans in general think that any given media are against their club. Look at the comments on this site... Meaning Evil, Big Gay Lawro, Pat Murphy, WM. Are they really all against us? I think not. It's a siege mentality... ua against the world. It's easy to pick up the negative comments and ignore the good.
Well said top man Jimmy Smash good to hear another fan and there are many who feel WM are decent.
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
Before xmas I think with some justification, neutrals (and plenty of us on here including me) were calling us the most boring team in the league.
However since Xmas we have certainly played a more watchable form of football. Chelsea away is another example and even though we lost, Arsenal at home was a very good game.
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Football fans in general think that any given media are against their club. Look at the comments on this site... Meaning Evil, Big Gay Lawro, Pat Murphy, WM. Are they really all against us? I think not. It's a siege mentality... ua against the world. It's easy to pick up the negative comments and ignore the good.
Well said top man Jimmy Smash good to hear another fan and there are many who feel WM are decent.
Okay... thanks er Warleywonder... I mean dazzyg...whatever your name s.
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Football fans in general think that any given media are against their club. Look at the comments on this site... Meaning Evil, Big Gay Lawro, Pat Murphy, WM. Are they really all against us? I think not. It's a siege mentality... ua against the world. It's easy to pick up the negative comments and ignore the good.
Well said top man Jimmy Smash good to hear another fan and there are many who feel WM are decent.
Okay... thanks er Warleywonder... I mean dazzyg...whatever your name s.
That 'Camp Lawro' stuff was knocked on the head ages ago.
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
Looks like someone from WM has signed up to the site.
Not all all but why would you think that the station is biased? Have you been banned from phoning the station or something!
Because they constantly put Villa down. Didn't you bother reading the rest of the thread before you posted or something!
Yes I did read the post otherwise I would not have commented. Radio WM DO NOT just put down the Villa whoever is having a bad time on and off the pitch will have comments made. Lets face we are not exactly having a great season or are you another one of these people who think that everyone else on here is wrong. Is there some kind of forum mafia on here? Oh no we cannot say anything that goes against what a moderator thinks. Do moderators sign some kind of allegiance against the rest of the fans. It;s as though you cant have an opinion on here and if you do you either get slated or kicked off.
Welcome back dazzy, I've genuinely missed you.
No, we're not having a great season, you're quite right. However, recent weeks have been mildly entertaining which is at least some improvement.
Incidentally I'm not a moderator, so what that rant had to do with my post I don't know.
Do I think everyone on here is wrong? Well, no, clearly not. Even if I do think someone's wrong, that's great as that's what makes an interesting discussion board. Do I think you're wrong in this instance? Yes. Putting something in capital letters does not make you right by the way.
Do you have any opinions on Alex McLeish?
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I think warley wonder works with dazzyg and shares the same computer, hence the ip address. He is clearly more intelligent than dazzyg and has put some great points on here.
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Plus he hasn't called anyone a moron yet.
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I agree with SH.
I actually don't mind WM that much, I prefer listening to their commentaries more than BRMB where by the sounds of Tom Ross every time a team goes over the halfway line it's going to be a goal.
I think the problem WM is is doing the phone in every single night, it just used to be on Fridays didn't it? So they need a steady stream of callers every night. So it's easier to be negative for the sake of it as it pretty much guarantees callers.
I agree. Effectively they have a Football phone-in 7 days a week; generally at least one of their teams are playing on a Sunday so you end up with a Sunday phone-in too. This seems to dillute the content. A Monday post-weekend phone-in is generally listenable. A Friday night pre-weekend phone-in is OK. They have Colin Gibson on sometimes too. Tuesday to Thursday phone-ins without a midweek game to discuss are painful and smack of schedule fillers.
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Only just seen this thread but so very glad that it's been started.
I've posted several comments in the past about Radio WM, who I loathe with a vengeance. Not sure whether it's a conscious anti Villa mission they're on or that they're just naturally moaning, negative, whingers (Franks seems to moan about life in general and is the Daily Mail on the radio when discussing other things too). Whichever it is though, I believe that they have an impact on the mindset of our support and that the general pessimistic and negative attitude that is so prevalent among large sections of the crowd (not just this season but even when MON was here) is influenced by them.
One example I'd offer is Mr Franks' undisguised and self righteous joy some seasons ago when we were losing 1 - 0 at HT to Newcastle and ended up winning 4 - 1. Our tall friend didn't celebrate the turn round, instead concentrating on the fact that Petrov had been replaced at half time and citing it as evidence to support his campaign against that player.
I have to say that Bluenose Ross on BRMB is infinitely preferable and I only listen to WM now when there is no alternative.
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Tom Ross is much more even-handed than the muppets on WM. In fact, the more I here those dreadnoughts, the higher my regard for Tom.
That Lee (the Albion fan) is a character alright, but we'll never hear callers of the calibre of Ashok (Beebo), and Acka again. May they both rest in peace.
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Many of the radio phone in presenters allow the caller to start making their point then hog the whole 'conversation'.
I often find myself shouting 'let the fucker speak!'
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You're right. Even when we win they have to moan about the crowd, or certain players, or transfers. After the Wolves game you wouldn't have known it was a derby - they only wanted to talk about Wolves.
I listened to the phone in earlier and Paul Franks said this was the most boring Villa team in the most boring Villa season ever. To claim that every game has been boring is just utter shite. We've been involved in some cracking games this season and he knows it.
They seem to be down on everything Villa whilst proclaiming Small Heath as the new Brazil. Every time they mention them they talk of the fantastic football being played down there. Funny that because every time they've been on the box it's been a bore-fest.
When were these cracking games actually played? Are you getting us confused with another team? To quote Franksy it has been shite. I'm taking an objective look on this but cannot agree with you. This has ben a fairly low key almost boring season so far I for one haven't honestly been entertaind so far this season have you? Tell you what If you have any more of those special glasses than turn rubbish into entertainment can I have a pair please.
Looks like someone from WM has signed up to the site.
Not all all but why would you think that the station is biased? Have you been banned from phoning the station or something!
Because they constantly put Villa down. Didn't you bother reading the rest of the thread before you posted or something!
Yes I did read the post otherwise I would not have commented. Radio WM DO NOT just put down the Villa whoever is having a bad time on and off the pitch will have comments made. Lets face we are not exactly having a great season or are you another one of these people who think that everyone else on here is wrong. Is there some kind of forum mafia on here? Oh no we cannot say anything that goes against what a moderator thinks. Do moderators sign some kind of allegiance against the rest of the fans. It;s as though you cant have an opinion on here and if you do you either get slated or kicked off.
Welcome back dazzy, I've genuinely missed you.
No, we're not having a great season, you're quite right. However, recent weeks have been mildly entertaining which is at least some improvement.
Incidentally I'm not a moderator, so what that rant had to do with my post I don't know.
Do I think everyone on here is wrong? Well, no, clearly not. Even if I do think someone's wrong, that's great as that's what makes an interesting discussion board. Do I think you're wrong in this instance? Yes. Putting something in capital letters does not make you right by the way.
Do you have any opinions on Alex McLeish?
Ip addresses are such a wonderful thing aren't they ! Where would we be without them lets throw a bit of DHCP in as well and no I wasn't shouting there.
Ahhhhhh Mcleish where do we start on this subject ? Our fantastic club is now being dragged through the mill yet another defeat and now the players are answering him back. I wonder what type of reaction there will be on this site now? There is only one answer to solve the problem but I am not allowed to say what it is am I ?
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
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What have you got lined up for next Summer wazzyg?
McLeish will still be there and you have told us that you won't be going to the Villa anymore.
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Still like to know why my location had been changed without my consent ? Is this allowed? Hasan anyone else had their location changed? Dave what are your exact feeling towards Mcleish as you never ever relly pass an opinion apart from disagreeing with what I and anyone else thinks.
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What have you got lined up for next Summer wazzyg?
McLeish will still be there and you have told us that you won't be going to the Villa anymore.
Apart from this site I do not know anyone that really agrees with the manager at the moment in the early days lots of fans were angry but now there are many more. Do you not see the fans anger? I would really like to know how you feel not what you want people to think that you feel. The forum is for open discussion am I right?
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Still like to know why my location had been changed without my consent ? Is this allowed?
Of course it's allowed, it's not your site.
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Is that comment not being a little arrogant? When I have made a comment what happened? Thats right I was kicked off the site why whats the difference? Fellow fans on here I am calling on you to give an honest opinion if you think someone should be kicked off for giving an opinion .
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Is that comment not being a little arrogant? When I have made a comment what happened? Thats right I was kicked off the site why whats the difference? Fellow fans on here I am calling on you to give an honest opinion if you think someone should be kicked off for giving an opinion .
Don't ask for an honest opinion please.
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Still like to know why my location had been changed without my consent ? Is this allowed?
Of course it's allowed, it's not your site.
This is amazing this site, is there a small band of fans who gather each week and discuss who they can kick off just because they don't agree with the majority on the site but in reality the minority overall.
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What have you got lined up for next Summer wazzyg?
McLeish will still be there and you have told us that you won't be going to the Villa anymore.
Apart from this site I do not know anyone that really agrees with the manager at the moment in the early days lots of fans were angry but now there are many more. Do you not see the fans anger? I would really like to know how you feel not what you want people to think that you feel. The forum is for open discussion am I right?
I am prepared to give McLeish a fair chance. Why would I 'feel' any differently to how I want other people to think that I feel, to repeat your bizarre question?
Now, answer my question please. What will you be doing next Summer, as McLeish will still be here? Will you still be paying over the odds for a season ticket?
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Is that comment not being a little arrogant? When I have made a comment what happened? Thats right I was kicked off the site why whats the difference? Fellow fans on here I am calling on you to give an honest opinion if you think someone should be kicked off for giving an opinion .
Don't ask for an honest opinion please.
Have to be careful again what I say as we know the consequence I am not allowed to stay on here.
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Is that comment not being a little arrogant? When I have made a comment what happened? Thats right I was kicked off the site why whats the difference? Fellow fans on here I am calling on you to give an honest opinion if you think someone should be kicked off for giving an opinion .
How can you call other people fellow fans when you delight in Villa losing?
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Just to let you know that multiple log-ins are not allowed, but in this instance an exception will be made.
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What have you got lined up for next Summer wazzyg?
McLeish will still be there and you have told us that you won't be going to the Villa anymore.
Apart from this site I do not know anyone that really agrees with the manager at the moment in the early days lots of fans were angry but now there are many more. Do you not see the fans anger? I would really like to know how you feel not what you want people to think that you feel. The forum is for open discussion am I right?
I am prepared to give McLeish a fair chance. Why would I 'feel' any differently to how I want other people to think that I feel, to repeat your bizarre question?
Now, answer my question please. What will you be doing next Summer, as McLeish will still be here? Will you still be paying over the odds for a season ticket?
As previously mentioned I accidentally thought that I was paying just over £600 because of direct debit when are YOU going to drop the subject. I wonder if Dave Woodhall will kick you off, of course not your one of his gang aren't you?
Did you listen to Talksport last night no one on their was in favour of AM.
I cannot wait for when AM finally gets the boot and fans who want him out can start looking forward to going to the match again. AM is the reason for poor results and low crowds whether you want to accept it or not.
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Just to let you know that multiple log-ins are not allowed, but in this instance an exception will be made.
Are the subs being increased for this entertainment?
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Still like to know why my location had been changed without my consent ? Is this allowed?
Of course it's allowed, it's not your site.
This is amazing this site, is there a small band of fans who gather each week and discuss who they can kick off just because they don't agree with the majority on the site but in reality the minority overall.
Well if you don't like it, then why have you joined twice?
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What have you got lined up for next Summer wazzyg?
McLeish will still be there and you have told us that you won't be going to the Villa anymore.
Apart from this site I do not know anyone that really agrees with the manager at the moment in the early days lots of fans were angry but now there are many more. Do you not see the fans anger? I would really like to know how you feel not what you want people to think that you feel. The forum is for open discussion am I right?
I am prepared to give McLeish a fair chance. Why would I 'feel' any differently to how I want other people to think that I feel, to repeat your bizarre question?
Now, answer my question please. What will you be doing next Summer, as McLeish will still be here? Will you still be paying over the odds for a season ticket?
As previously mentioned I accidentally thought that I was paying just over £600 because of direct debit when are YOU going to drop the subject. I wonder if Dave Woodhall will kick you off, of course not your one of his gang aren't you?
Did you listen to Talksport last night no one on their was in favour of AM.
I cannot wait for when AM finally gets the boot and fans who want him out can start looking forward to going to the match again. AM is the reason for poor results and low crowds whether you want to accept it or not.
Are you renewing next season or not? Yes or no?
I will probably get kicked off if I call you a moron.
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Is that comment not being a little arrogant? When I have made a comment what happened? Thats right I was kicked off the site why whats the difference? Fellow fans on here I am calling on you to give an honest opinion if you think someone should be kicked off for giving an opinion .
How can you call other people fellow fans when you delight in Villa losing?
Again I will watch what I say for that pathetic question. I do not want Villa to lose otherwise I wouldnt be going to the match. I hate AM with a passion all I want to see is good results good performance and the fantastic atmosphere to return to villa park is that alot to ask?
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What have you got lined up for next Summer wazzyg?
McLeish will still be there and you have told us that you won't be going to the Villa anymore.
Apart from this site I do not know anyone that really agrees with the manager at the moment in the early days lots of fans were angry but now there are many more. Do you not see the fans anger? I would really like to know how you feel not what you want people to think that you feel. The forum is for open discussion am I right?
I am prepared to give McLeish a fair chance. Why would I 'feel' any differently to how I want other people to think that I feel, to repeat your bizarre question?
Now, answer my question please. What will you be doing next Summer, as McLeish will still be here? Will you still be paying over the odds for a season ticket?
As previously mentioned I accidentally thought that I was paying just over £600 because of direct debit when are YOU going to drop the subject. I wonder if Dave Woodhall will kick you off, of course not your one of his gang aren't you?
Did you listen to Talksport last night no one on their was in favour of AM.
I cannot wait for when AM finally gets the boot and fans who want him out can start looking forward to going to the match again. AM is the reason for poor results and low crowds whether you want to accept it or not.
Are you renewing next season or not? Yes or no?
I will probably get kicked off if I call you a moron.
You are unbelieveble - How dare you say I want my team to lose just because I dont like the manager and feel angry at the way the team is dropping down the table. I question whether you are a genuine fan or just want to rile fans like myself who care about the club. I have not decided about renewing yet but if AM is still in charge then no I wont.
Do you really care about the club?
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Still like to know why my location had been changed without my consent ? Is this allowed?
Of course it's allowed, it's not your site.
This is amazing this site, is there a small band of fans who gather each week and discuss who they can kick off just because they don't agree with the majority on the site but in reality the minority overall.
Well if you don't like it, then why have you joined twice?
If you wasn't aware I was banned by the site just for voicing an opinion? Then had my location changed by a moderator.
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What have you got lined up for next Summer wazzyg?
McLeish will still be there and you have told us that you won't be going to the Villa anymore.
Apart from this site I do not know anyone that really agrees with the manager at the moment in the early days lots of fans were angry but now there are many more. Do you not see the fans anger? I would really like to know how you feel not what you want people to think that you feel. The forum is for open discussion am I right?
I am prepared to give McLeish a fair chance. Why would I 'feel' any differently to how I want other people to think that I feel, to repeat your bizarre question?
Now, answer my question please. What will you be doing next Summer, as McLeish will still be here? Will you still be paying over the odds for a season ticket?
As previously mentioned I accidentally thought that I was paying just over £600 because of direct debit when are YOU going to drop the subject. I wonder if Dave Woodhall will kick you off, of course not your one of his gang aren't you?
Did you listen to Talksport last night no one on their was in favour of AM.
I cannot wait for when AM finally gets the boot and fans who want him out can start looking forward to going to the match again. AM is the reason for poor results and low crowds whether you want to accept it or not.
Are you renewing next season or not? Yes or no?
I will probably get kicked off if I call you a moron.
You are unbelieveble - How dare you say I want my team to lose just because I dont like the manager and feel angry at the way the team is dropping down the table. I question whether you are a genuine fan or just want to rile fans like myself who care about the club. I have not decided about renewing yet but if AM is still in charge then no I wont.
Do you really care about the club?
You are not renewing then. That should improve the atmosphere at Villa Park.
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Dazzy, you really are questioning the wrong person about caring for the club.
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Go on daz, you have another protest. Next time two of you might turn up.
Is that comment not being a little arrogant? When I have made a comment what happened? Thats right I was kicked off the site why whats the difference? Fellow fans on here I am calling on you to give an honest opinion if you think someone should be kicked off for giving an opinion .
How can you call other people fellow fans when you delight in Villa losing?
Again I will watch what I say for that pathetic question. I do not want Villa to lose otherwise I wouldnt be going to the match. I hate AM with a passion all I want to see is good results good performance and the fantastic atmosphere to return to villa park is that alot to ask?
OK, so let's say that Villa win every game for the rest of the season. Would you then support Alex McLeish as manager?
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Dazzy, you really are questioning the wrong person about caring for the club.
PercyN'thehood - I do not know who the person actually is that I replied to DaveMcLark Five (by that I mean personally ) why does he take it upon himself then to question me. I am Villa die hard hence the reason I complain on here who is this fan to question me? I am not having a go at you my friend by the way. There are just a few fans on here whi I honestly believe think that they have some kind of god given right to think that because they have maybe been on here from the start that everyone else is wrong on all topics. Look at the WM topic . Everyone who knows me personaly knows that I will never have anything said about the Villa but this topic about AM has totally parted the fans. I sit with fans who disagree but also as many that do agree. Just because people on here disagree doesn't mean that I am in the minority. I would love to see how this topic will change once we or when we get the chance to change manager beit next season or five years time etc. I do not expect anyone to question my support for the club. What gives someone the right to think that? I dont know how old Dave is but is it an age thing where he thinks because he has supported the club for 50 years then he has a right . I have supported the club since I was very young. This site is about opinion you don't and should not be criticised for being vocal about the manager. It's jus that I have a issue with who we have in charge he maybe a good person but I dont visit villa park and pay hard earned money to watch rubbish.
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Dazzy, you really are questioning the wrong person about caring for the club.
PercyN'thehood - I do not know who the person actually is that I replied to DaveMcLark Five (by that I mean personally ) why does he take it upon himself then to question me. I am Villa die hard hence the reason I complain on here who is this fan to question me? I am not having a go at you my friend by the way. There are just a few fans on here whi I honestly believe think that they have some kind of god given right to think that because they have maybe been on here from the start that everyone else is wrong on all topics. Look at the WM topic . Everyone who knows me personaly knows that I will never have anything said about the Villa but this topic about AM has totally parted the fans. I sit with fans who disagree but also as many that do agree. Just because people on here disagree doesn't mean that I am in the minority. I would love to see how this topic will change once we or when we get the chance to change manager beit next season or five years time etc. I do not expect anyone to question my support for the club. What gives someone the right to think that? I dont know how old Dave is but is it an age thing where he thinks because he has supported the club for 50 years then he has a right . I have supported the club since I was very young. This site is about opinion you don't and should not be criticised for being vocal about the manager. It's jus that I have a issue with who we have in charge he maybe a good person but I dont visit villa park and pay hard earned money to watch rubbish.
Say something positive about anything at all about Villa and I would start to think about believing you. Remember, you came on here spouting bile. Don't try to make it appear you have been reasonable in putting your view across. You have slated people because of where they come from and had a dig at the expense of Care in the Community people, following which you should have been banned.
'Look at the WM topic'. This is the WM topic. Are you lost?
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Dazzy, you really are questioning the wrong person about caring for the club.
PercyN'thehood - I do not know who the person actually is that I replied to DaveMcLark Five (by that I mean personally ) why does he take it upon himself then to question me. I am Villa die hard hence the reason I complain on here who is this fan to question me? I am not having a go at you my friend by the way. There are just a few fans on here whi I honestly believe think that they have some kind of god given right to think that because they have maybe been on here from the start that everyone else is wrong on all topics. Look at the WM topic . Everyone who knows me personaly knows that I will never have anything said about the Villa but this topic about AM has totally parted the fans. I sit with fans who disagree but also as many that do agree. Just because people on here disagree doesn't mean that I am in the minority. I would love to see how this topic will change once we or when we get the chance to change manager beit next season or five years time etc. I do not expect anyone to question my support for the club. What gives someone the right to think that? I dont know how old Dave is but is it an age thing where he thinks because he has supported the club for 50 years then he has a right . I have supported the club since I was very young. This site is about opinion you don't and should not be criticised for being vocal about the manager. It's jus that I have a issue with who we have in charge he maybe a good person but I dont visit villa park and pay hard earned money to watch rubbish.
Say something positive about anything at all about Villa and I would start to think about believing you. Remember, you came on here spouting bile. Don't try to make it appear you have been reasonable in putting your view across. You have slated people because of where they come from and had a dig at the expense of Care in the Community people, following which you should have been banned.
'Look at the WM topic'. This is the WM topic. Are you lost?
Point One - Why have you mentioned care in the community? that was on a totally different post and it was banter something that fans have if you are not aware. And secondly No I am not lost but I am starting to think that maybe someone is.
Which exact words are banned from this site because at the moment it seems unless we agree with anyone called Dave then we are in the wrong.
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I love the Villa always have and always will I respect the players and the Chairman even the catering staff and the groundsman. Lets even include the turnstile operators and the window cleaners. The ball boys do a great job and the st john ambulance do a cracking job as well. Think I have covered most people there and I do believe not one bad word has been mentioned?
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Dazzy, you really are questioning the wrong person about caring for the club.
PercyN'thehood - I do not know who the person actually is that I replied to DaveMcLark Five (by that I mean personally ) why does he take it upon himself then to question me. I am Villa die hard hence the reason I complain on here who is this fan to question me? I am not having a go at you my friend by the way. There are just a few fans on here whi I honestly believe think that they have some kind of god given right to think that because they have maybe been on here from the start that everyone else is wrong on all topics. Look at the WM topic . Everyone who knows me personaly knows that I will never have anything said about the Villa but this topic about AM has totally parted the fans. I sit with fans who disagree but also as many that do agree. Just because people on here disagree doesn't mean that I am in the minority. I would love to see how this topic will change once we or when we get the chance to change manager beit next season or five years time etc. I do not expect anyone to question my support for the club. What gives someone the right to think that? I dont know how old Dave is but is it an age thing where he thinks because he has supported the club for 50 years then he has a right . I have supported the club since I was very young. This site is about opinion you don't and should not be criticised for being vocal about the manager. It's jus that I have a issue with who we have in charge he maybe a good person but I dont visit villa park and pay hard earned money to watch rubbish.
Say something positive about anything at all about Villa and I would start to think about believing you. Remember, you came on here spouting bile. Don't try to make it appear you have been reasonable in putting your view across. You have slated people because of where they come from and had a dig at the expense of Care in the Community people, following which you should have been banned.
'Look at the WM topic'. This is the WM topic. Are you lost?
Could the last comment by DMF be interpreted as being offensive ? Did you mean lost mentally or physically? Maybe a moderator will come and smack you on the hand.
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I love the Villa always have and always will I respect the players and the Chairman even the catering staff and the groundsman. Lets even include the turnstile operators and the window cleaners. The ball boys do a great job and the st john ambulance do a cracking job as well. Think I have covered most people there and I do believe not one bad word has been mentioned?
You are showing commendable restraint. How long can this continue?
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WM are a joke at times.
Last season in the same match I remember hearing one of their 'experts' say Reo-Coker is class and should be considered for England, then after the game, after a defeat, they said he wasn't good enough....
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I do not know who the person actually is that I replied to DaveMcLark Five (by that I mean personally ) why does he take it upon himself then to question me. I am Villa die hard hence the reason I complain on here who is this fan to question me?
Nice attitude. If you don't want to be disagreed with, then you're in the wrong place.
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I do not know who the person actually is that I replied to DaveMcLark Five (by that I mean personally ) why does he take it upon himself then to question me. I am Villa die hard hence the reason I complain on here who is this fan to question me?
Nice attitude. If you don't want to be disagreed with, then you're in the wrong place.
I disagree.
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I do not know who the person actually is that I replied to DaveMcLark Five (by that I mean personally ) why does he take it upon himself then to question me. I am Villa die hard hence the reason I complain on here who is this fan to question me?
Nice attitude. If you don't want to be disagreed with, then you're in the wrong place.
I disagree.
Agreed.
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WM are a joke at times.
Last season in the same match I remember hearing one of their 'experts' say Reo-Coker is class and should be considered for England, then after the game, after a defeat, they said he wasn't good enough....
Remember Tony Butler saying Curtis Davies, at £8million "a waste of money".
He was, eventually...
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I love the Villa always have and always will I respect the players and the Chairman even the catering staff and the groundsman. Lets even include the turnstile operators and the window cleaners. The ball boys do a great job and the st john ambulance do a cracking job as well. Think I have covered most people there and I do believe not one bad word has been mentioned?
You are showing commendable restraint. How long can this continue?
Wahey my first compliment from a moderator. I will and can compete with the best. I am an honest bloke who if he thinks he has a point to make and an opinion to give then I will. The whole point of a forum is to express yourself. No opinion should be mocked.
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Why do you keep banging on about moderators?
You're OH SO rebellious. Yawn.
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I love the Villa always have and always will I respect the players and the Chairman even the catering staff and the groundsman. Lets even include the turnstile operators and the window cleaners. The ball boys do a great job and the st john ambulance do a cracking job as well. Think I have covered most people there and I do believe not one bad word has been mentioned?
You are showing commendable restraint. How long can this continue?
Wahey my first compliment from a moderator. I will and can compete with the best. I am an honest bloke who if he thinks he has a point to make and an opinion to give then I will. The whole point of a forum is to express yourself. No opinion should be mocked.
DC5 is not a moderator either. I don't know what your beef is with the mods. You see yourself as some sort of champion of the liberal world of free speech, until someone disagrees with you and then you start to get abusive and TYPE IN CAPS. Free speech for all unless I don't like what you're saying, basically.
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Why do you keep banging on about moderators?
You're OH SO rebellious. Yawn.
He's not letting the establishment put him in an emotional prison. Give it to The Man, Dazzy.
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Someone once suggested Delph should be tried at centre back. Now THAT was an opinion that not only deserved, but was also crying out to be mocked!!
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I love the Villa always have and always will I respect the players and the Chairman even the catering staff and the groundsman. Lets even include the turnstile operators and the window cleaners. The ball boys do a great job and the st john ambulance do a cracking job as well. Think I have covered most people there and I do believe not one bad word has been mentioned?
You are showing commendable restraint. How long can this continue?
Wahey my first compliment from a moderator. I will and can compete with the best. I am an honest bloke who if he thinks he has a point to make and an opinion to give then I will. The whole point of a forum is to express yourself. No opinion should be mocked.
I'm no moderator. Unlucky.
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I have had a terrible weekend, ive broken my shoulder, ive been in agony for 2 days, villa were beaten(unluckily), Ireland lost in the last minute to wales(robbed), England have been thrashed in the cricket(again). Its been terrible, but i can always rely on H&V to cheer me up. This topic has had me in stiches for the last 20 mins. Thank you H&V and thank you warley wonder you have taken the pain away.
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I don't mean to cast aspersions, but Private Eye magazine did once find that BBC Radio 5 had 'on-call' members of the public they could rely on, should they not have the right quota of callers. I'm not saying anything, but it does happen.
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I don't mean to cast aspersions, but Private Eye magazine did once find that BBC Radio 5 had 'on-call' members of the public they could rely on, should they not have the right quota of callers. I'm not saying anything, but it does happen.
Of course it does - in just the same way a lot of the letters that appear in newspapers and magazines are written by the sub-editor or other staff (H&V excluded of course), often to provoke some follow-up material. but more often to fill space because nobody else has bothered to write in.
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I do not expect anyone to question my support for the club. What gives someone the right to think that?
Yet you questioned my support for the club because I lived in a different city. You also questioned my support for the club because I don't have a season ticket.
Is it only you that is allowed to question someone's support for the club?
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Thing is Daz, nobody minds you having an opinion. They just take issue with you monotonously typing the same turgid, nonsensical tripe on every thread.
There is no rhyme or reason to your debating. McLeish is a prick and is responsible for every ill ever is your stock position on everything.
It gets very wearing.
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Generally people who call everyone who disagrees with them a moron tend not to last very long. I think it was that which did for you Dazzy, rather than the mods not liking what you had to say.
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Yet you questioned my support for the club because I lived in a different city
The irony seems to have been lost on Jazzy B.
Assuming that his new moniker denotes his location, shouldn't he really be supporting Smethwick FC?
And how can someone from Yam-Yam land afford a season ticket at Villa, aren't they all on benefits in Dugley and Smerrick?
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Listeners to WM must be tired of life.
I can't remember a time when I've tuned into that station that I haven't been bored shitless.
If they're anti-Villa, it's because they're trying desperately to get listeners and callers - standard tactics of shockjock/TalkSport stations everywhere.
I used to like the George Gavin/Tom Ross days - Gavin was great at the wind-up and taking the piss out of Ross; and Ross trying to be the voice of reason. We also used to have some decent Sports Forums. Do they still do those these days?
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I listen to WM every Sunday morning because Steve Wright's Lovesongs radio show makes me bilious. Last Sunday there was a woman going on at length about Marmalade making which was probably the worst radio since the Hindenburg crashed.
When the interview was over they played Bob Marley's Jammin'.
She'd bought over 120 Seville oranges and I'm now on medication.
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I'd have called such a show "Jam'll fix it"...with Jammy Seville (Orange).
Hmmm.... *gets notepad... set's fire to it*
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I'd have called such a show "Jam'll fix it"...with Jammy Seville (Orange).
Hmmm.... *gets notepad... set's fire to it*
Don't burn it, shred it.
Oh. God.
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Now then, now then.
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I have had a terrible weekend, ive broken my shoulder, ive been in agony for 2 days, villa were beaten(unluckily), Ireland lost in the last minute to wales(robbed), England have been thrashed in the cricket(again). Its been terrible, but i can always rely on H&V to cheer me up. This topic has had me in stiches for the last 20 mins. Thank you H&V and thank you warley wonder you have taken the pain away.
Exiled on the wirrall - your welcome !!!!
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Thing is Daz, nobody minds you having an opinion. They just take issue with you monotonously typing the same turgid, nonsensical tripe on every thread.
"McLeish is a prick and is responsible for every ill ever is your stock position on everything" Glad you agree cheltenhamlion.
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What do people think of the new RADIO WM format with the phone in now from 6-7 rather than 7-8?
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Why do you keep banging on about moderators?
You're OH SO rebellious. Yawn.
If you had the trouble I have been having with them then I sure you would be as well !!!
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Why do you keep banging on about moderators?
You're OH SO rebellious. Yawn.
If you had the trouble I have been having with them then I sure you would be as well !!!
Yes, I had the same trouble with my mum when I was 15.
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I have had a terrible weekend, ive broken my shoulder, ive been in agony for 2 days, villa were beaten(unluckily), Ireland lost in the last minute to wales(robbed), England have been thrashed in the cricket(again). Its been terrible, but i can always rely on H&V to cheer me up. This topic has had me in stiches for the last 20 mins. Thank you H&V and thank you warley wonder you have taken the pain away.
Exiled on the wirrall - your welcome !!!!
Why do you keep banging on about moderators?
You're OH SO rebellious. Yawn.
If you had the trouble I have been having with them then I sure you would be as well !!!
You make them sound like piles.
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Havent heard WM for probably about 2 decades. Is Butler still alive and kicking? Does he still give away those eggcups when you won one of his really random quizzes. Do they still have the claxon when a local team scores?
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If you had the trouble I have been having with them then I sure you would be as well !!!
You make them sound like piles
Snigger
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Havent heard WM for probably about 2 decades. Is Butler still alive and kicking? Does he still give away those eggcups when you won one of his really random quizzes. Do they still have the claxon when a local team scores?
They canned Butler a few years back and all of his odd prizes.
They still have the claxon though
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Last time I listened to Radio WM it was Radio Birmingham and Nick Owen used to do the football on a Saturday afternoon. Late 70s?
"It's a goal!!!! der der der der, der der der der"
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Last time I listened to Radio WM it was Radio Birmingham and Nick Owen used to do the football on a Saturday afternoon. Late 70s?
"It's a goal!!!! der der der der, der der der der"
Classic Radio
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What do people think of the new RADIO WM format with the phone in now from 6-7 rather than 7-8?
It MAKES it better for SOME too listne two.
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Is Jim Cumbes still doing the Sunday morning show?
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What do people think of the new RADIO WM format with the phone in now from 6-7 rather than 7-8?
Same old shit but an hour earlier.
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I think... I will get banned if I tell you the truth.
Jack Nicholson - "Dizzy Blonde, you can't handle the truth"
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What do people think of the new RADIO WM format with the phone in now from 6-7 rather than 7-8?
Same old shit but an hour earlier.
Brillant! :)
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What do people think of the new RADIO WM format with the phone in now from 6-7 rather than 7-8?
Serious question for a second but how will that work on a match night when there's a game at 7.45/8pm?
It's more logical to start the phone in from 7pm then.
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Franksy will be doing the phone in from 6-7 pm as you quite correctly say then someone like Richard Wilford will be doing his show until 7-45 etc
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I always prefer to listen to the phone in on Radio WM+1. It's the same shit and drivel but an hour later. I live in the hope that the person I'm listening to may already have been killed in a bizarre accident shortly after the live broadcast.
Clutching onto some fuckwits last words before their untimely demise gives me hope that our Lord is the great avenger.
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Last time I heard Tony Butler he was doing a quiz that was simply 'call in if you can guess what sort of bird I am thinking of'
I never did stay tuned in long enough to discover what species it was and it has always kind of haunted me.
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Last time I heard Tony Butler he was doing a quiz that was simply 'call in if you can guess what sort of bird I am thinking of'
I never did stay tuned in long enough to discover what species it was and it has always kind of haunted me.
The answer was Trevor Francis.
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Little by little over the past 20 years it has deteriorated year on year. The other week I was feeling rough so not up to going or trying to watch a stream of the Wolves game so made the choice of listening to Tom Ross and his "ding, dong derby" rather than suffer WM, that's how shit it is.
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Last time I heard Tony Butler he was doing a quiz that was simply 'call in if you can guess what sort of bird I am thinking of'
I never did stay tuned in long enough to discover what species it was and it has always kind of haunted me.
Is it a bat, Tone?
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I always prefer to listen to the phone in on Radio WM+1. It's the same shit and drivel but an hour later. I live in the hope that the person I'm listening to may already have been killed in a bizarre accident shortly after the live broadcast.
Clutching onto some fuckwits last words before their untimely demise gives me hope that our Lord is the great avenger.
Another comment that is surely not appropriate to the site? Surely comments containing the word "killed" should be issued with a warning?
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I always prefer to listen to the phone in on Radio WM+1. It's the same shit and drivel but an hour later. I live in the hope that the person I'm listening to may already have been killed in a bizarre accident shortly after the live broadcast.
Clutching onto some fuckwits last words before their untimely demise gives me hope that our Lord is the great avenger.
Another comment that is surely not appropriate to the site? Surely comments containing the word "killed" should be issued with a warning?
Dear God - if that offends you never try to find the Thatcher thread in Off Topic!
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Why do you keep banging on about moderators?
You're OH SO rebellious. Yawn.
If you had the trouble I have been having with them then I sure you would be as well !!!
Yes, I had the same trouble with my mum when I was 15.
We know all about you and the stories when you were younger apparently there are pics out there as well
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Why do you keep banging on about moderators?
You're OH SO rebellious. Yawn.
If you had the trouble I have been having with them then I sure you would be as well !!!
Yes, I had the same trouble with my mum when I was 15.
We know all about you and the stories when you were younger apparently there are pics out there as well
And another mature, intelligent contribution to the debate.
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Last time I heard Tony Butler he was doing a quiz that was simply 'call in if you can guess what sort of bird I am thinking of'
I never did stay tuned in long enough to discover what species it was and it has always kind of haunted me.
Is it a bat, Tone?
'Yeah, that'll do, have a bronx hat'
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Franksy will be doing the phone in from 6-7 pm as you quite correctly say then someone like Richard Wilford will be doing his show until 7-45 etc
1 hr 45 minutes of WUM radio.
Think I'll give that a miss and just turn on when the match starts.
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I always prefer to listen to the phone in on Radio WM+1. It's the same shit and drivel but an hour later. I live in the hope that the person I'm listening to may already have been killed in a bizarre accident shortly after the live broadcast.
Clutching onto some fuckwits last words before their untimely demise gives me hope that our Lord is the great avenger.
Another comment that is surely not appropriate to the site? Surely comments containing the word "killed" should be issued with a warning?
I'm sure Sir Algernon wouldn't have said it if he had realised it was you calling.
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I always prefer to listen to the phone in on Radio WM+1. It's the same shit and drivel but an hour later. I live in the hope that the person I'm listening to may already have been killed in a bizarre accident shortly after the live broadcast.
Clutching onto some fuckwits last words before their untimely demise gives me hope that our Lord is the great avenger.
Another comment that is surely not appropriate to the site? Surely comments containing the word "killed" should be issued with a warning?
I'm sure Sir Algernon wouldn't have said it if he had realised it was you calling.
And don't call Shirley on a Knight of the Realm, you despicable Jizzy G- String upstart.
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I always prefer to listen to the phone in on Radio WM+1. It's the same shit and drivel but an hour later. I live in the hope that the person I'm listening to may already have been killed in a bizarre accident shortly after the live broadcast.
Clutching onto some fuckwits last words before their untimely demise gives me hope that our Lord is the great avenger.
Another comment that is surely not appropriate to the site? Surely comments containing the word "killed" should be issued with a warning?
I'm sure Sir Algernon wouldn't have said it if he had realised it was you calling.
And don't call Shirley on a Knight of the Realm, you despicable Jizzy G- String upstart.
?????????
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OK, instead of `killed', how about `gathered unto the Lord'. Or `taken to the farm to live with Jesus'
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OK, instead of `killed', how about `gathered unto the Lord'. Or `taken to the farm to live with Jesus'
Hmmmmmmmm............................ not really
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Ok then - WARNING!!! I'm going to say I hope the presenter has been killed. Ready?
I hope the presenter has been killed.
Better?
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How about `crapped'? Or `translated'?
Give me a hand here, it's your sensibilities I'm concerned about
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Oh no you have really done it now !!! Just you wait until you try to log in again and you can't !!! LOL
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Everyone, please be careful with plastic bags. They can lead to suffocation, if you are amazingly thick.
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How about, in true CIA hitman style, 'sanctioned'?
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Oh no you have really done it now !!! Just you wait until you try to log in again and you can't !!! LOL
That only happens if you are incredibly irritating / repeatedly abusive / both.
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Oh no you have really done it now !!! Just you wait until you try to log in again and you can't !!! LOL
That only happens if you are incredibly irritating / repeatedly abusive / both.
Or you lose that piece of paper with your password written on it from inside your woolly hat
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His password is Primark?
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His password is Primark?
Mark One
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George
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George
Is that where the 'G' came from?
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Peppa pig.
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This Hat Belongs To
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Bravo Chico!
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CallmeFranksy had a lovely intro tonight. "Was Wolves'win on Saturday luck or judgement?" Nothing to do with QPR having two players sent off then?
Naturally he led our bit with the protest, and said with the exception of Robbie Keane all our players are "Mediocre at best and garbage at worst." Very neutral.
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Naturally he led our bit with the protest, and said with the exception of Robbie Keane all our players are "Mediocre at best and garbage at worst." Very neutral.
Funny how so many lower their standards when they have an audience.
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Nice to hear the local media behind us as always.
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Nice to hear the local media behind us as always.
The main thing is to keep it all in the memory. Our day will come and they will be reminded about how they were snakes in the grass, along with a few others.
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CallmeFranksy had a lovely intro tonight. "Was Wolves'win on Saturday luck or judgement?" Nothing to do with QPR having two players sent off then?
Naturally he led our bit with the protest, and said with the exception of Robbie Keane all our players are "Mediocre at best and garbage at worst." Very neutral.
I can't stand Paul Franksey. The bits of his drive time show i've had the misfortune to hear was bordering on Alan Partridge.
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Nice to hear the local media behind us as always.
I get the feeling they back the other clubs because they see them as the little brothers struggling to cope in the big bad world, while we're the older sibling who can look after himself.
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Together on WM!
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Paul Franks is a Villa fan my dad went to school with him, and so has known him ever since he was a youngster.
WM is a load of old tosh though wouldn't listen to it myself.
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One way to wind up Paul Franks; just refuse to call him "Franksy". It'll tip him over the edge.
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One way to wind up Paul Franks; just refuse to call him "Franksy". It'll tip him over the edge.
He will stroking his cock after six tonight now Mick has gone.
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Don't forget football phone in tonight from 6-7pm
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Don't forget football phone in tonight from 6-7pm
No ta, Franksey's bloody rubbish.
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One way to wind up Paul Franks; just refuse to call him "Franksy". It'll tip him over the edge.
I used to like to phone up Tom Ross and call him Tone. I think Franksy should get the same treatment.
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Don't forget football phone in tonight from 6-7pm
I'd rather stick kebab skewers through my eardrums if it's all the same to you.
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Don't forget football phone in tonight from 6-7pm
No ta, Franksey's bloody rubbish.
Now Now don't be like that remember we have to be nice on here !!!!!
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Don't forget football phone in tonight from 6-7pm
No ta, Franksey's bloody rubbish.
Now Now don't be like that remember we have to be nice on here !!!!!
Not to you we don't.
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Don't forget football phone in tonight from 6-7pm
No ta, Franksey's bloody rubbish.
Now Now don't be like that remember we have to be nice on here !!!!!
But Franksey's not on here so i'll say it again, he's bloody rubbish.
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Don't forget football phone in tonight from 6-7pm
No ta, Franksey's bloody rubbish.
Now Now don't be like that remember we have to be nice on here !!!!!
Not to you we don't.
Too right. I hope he falls down into a cellar full of hedgehogs and suffers a long, lingering death with only a poorly tuned radio to keep him company.
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Don't forget football phone in tonight from 6-7pm
No ta, Franksey's bloody rubbish.
Now Now don't be like that remember we have to be nice on here !!!!!
Not to you we don't.
Too right. I hope he falls down into a cellar full of hedgehogs and suffers a long, lingering death with only a poorly tuned radio to keep him company.
That's completely uncalled for and bang out of order. Think of the hedgehogs!
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to change tack slightly i do have ripped the 1986 home leg of the Milk Cup vs Portsmouth, live on WM, with commentary from Malcolm Boyden, i believe, who does a good job of making Villa sound like Barcelona...even though the final score was 0-0.
and in defence of WM, they did have an excellent jingle once "when the goals start flooding in, WM's lightning flashes are the first to keep you in touch".
do they still have the General Lee car siren when a goal floods in?
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I believe it was a commentator called David Wigley who was a massive Villa fan but he also sounded like he was having a wank when we scored. And bear in mind that was during a really shit period in our history.
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i have often thaught this station is more like radio wolves these days.and that paul franks never seems to have a good word for us.only listen now if i am out someware and i want to know the score.must admit i used to like the tom ross and george gavin combination on brmb.
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I believe it was a commentator called David Wigley who was a massive Villa fan but he also sounded like he was having a wank when we scored. And bear in mind that was during a really shit period in our history.
Talking about shit periods in our history, it's a good job he's not commentating on us now as his balls would be the size of an elephant given our goal scoring prowess this season.
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He'd probably need half-a-dozen Viagras to commentate on us nowadays.
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It's getting to the stage where I'll need a Hunter S Thompson style suitcase full of drugs to watch us.
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Get Butler back there to twat a few Raspberries, that should liven things up.
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All these football phone ins and yet they didn't have a commentary on last night even though two local teams were playing away?