Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: hawkeye on January 29, 2012, 07:44:37 PM
-
If You had the management team and the players in front of you, what would you tell them?
-
Is this the Birmingham City dressing room?
-
ROBBO posted something similar a while ago:
We don't care if you have problems with the manager or you don't like the training methods or you wish to be somewhere else. You are living our dream, to be paid huge incomes to play football for the team we love. Villa is our passion and when we see you guys just going through the motions seemingly without any desire to represent the shirt it really pisses us off. There is no excuse for the dismal displays we've been watching over the last few months. Next time you run onto the Villa Park (or any other) pitch have a look around the ground. Every single Villa supporter wishes he/she was you. You are our players. The very least we expect is a total committment to the club.
-
Why do you do this to me you bastards? What have I ever done to any of you lot?
-
&feature=related with a bit more swearing.
-
ROBBO posted something similar a while ago:
We don't care if you have problems with the manager or you don't like the training methods or you wish to be somewhere else. You are living our dream, to be paid huge incomes to play football for the team we love. Villa is our passion and when we see you guys just going through the motions seemingly without any desire to represent the shirt it really pisses us off. There is no excuse for the dismal displays we've been watching over the last few months. Next time you run onto the Villa Park (or any other) pitch have a look around the ground. Every single Villa supporter wishes he/she was you. You are our players. The very least we expect is a total committment to the club.
Brilliant
-
Alex,you're fired.
-
I'd do me best Arthur Atkinson, ''' 'Ey, where's me washboard. 'ave you seen it?''
Asking for Dalian or Ron in their pomp would be too much but I reckon Arthur could do a decent job defending with that washboard of his.
-
"Until you win a game, whilst keeping a clean sheet, you aren't getting paid."
-
SOmething like.
All those aged 27 or over, fuck off and retire you bunch of c...ts. You don't give a fuck because it isn't about trophies, it is just about money to you lot. You don't give a shit.
The rest of you, if you ever want to win anything then don't turn into that shower of shit.
That is all.
-
Can I borrow £50,000? Promise to pay you back.
-
I would quote them the following from The Aston Villa Miscellany;
"Everytime you come here it must bring back memoriess, Pongo' I said. He stared out for a long while. I thought he'd forgotten I was there. 'Aye,' he said suddenly 'aye, they're a great club...the greatest.' I stood and looked with him, this old man whose goals had set the the Villa crowds roaring long ago. it was not quite dusk on that March afternoon and I saw them too...they were out again the old ghosts...Jack Hughes scorer just about one hundred years earlier of Aston Villa's first goal ( perhaps to the very day)...George Ramsey...the Hunter brothers...Willie McGregor...Denny Hodgetts...legion upon legion of them on parade now, filling the field with claret and blue...the century with pride."
Then promptly tell them that's what it means to us all! If they are not prepared to show the pride that those above had for Aston Villa then pack your bags. We don't want you either!!!!
-
Can I borrow £50,000? Promise to pay you back.
I was just about to post something similar. Bunch of over-paid prima-donnas.
-
-
Love that " Bring your fkin Dinner"
-
"Well you fucked that up, didn't you. You're all getting the coach home with the fans, I'm sure they'll give yousome constructive feedback"
-
That sort of dressing down would do sod all for our lot. Sadly most of our lot are millionaires that couldn't give a flying fcuk about the club, us, or there own reputations...
-
"You're all c***s"
-
I would quote them the following from The Aston Villa Miscellany;
"Everytime you come here it must bring back memoriess, Pongo' I said. He stared out for a long while. I thought he'd forgotten I was there. 'Aye,' he said suddenly 'aye, they're a great club...the greatest.' I stood and looked with him, this old man whose
goals had set the the Villa crowds roaring long ago. it was not quite dusk on that March afternoon and I saw them too...they were out again the old ghosts...Jack Hughes scorer just about one hundred years earlier of Aston Villa's first goal ( perhaps to the very day)...George Ramsey...the Hunter brothers...Willie McGregor...Denny Hodgetts...legion upon legion of them on parade now, filling the field with claret and blue...the century with pride."
Then promptly tell them that's what it means to us all! If they are not prepared to show the pride that those above had for Aston Villa then pack your bags. We don't want you either!!!!
Yes. Follow that!
-
You're a factory of sadness.
-
"I'd rather see Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth."
-
Well done Lads, i didn't want the replay as on Uk Gold there is a rerun of Porridge. I just can not miss that.
-
Mr McLeish, I know wages are tight, but let Heskey go on a free and sign 2 full backs with the wage options please. Any fuckers that know how to defend. At which point I would turn to Warnock and Hutton, shake my head and tell them to fuck off out of my club, useless, spineless knobs.
Addressing Heskey, I would tell him not to be upset, but he is as much use as a fart in a lift, and someone (MON) is bound to want him somewhere.
-
Taxi for Mr Hutton and Mr Warnock?
-
Let's be honest, the vast majority of them wouldn't give a shit what was said to them by anybody. They're all a bunch of overpaid, over hyped, unintelligent, arrogant arseholes.
The only players who I would suggest might have a degree of hurt this evening would be Albrighton, Gabby and Gary Gardner.
-
Taxi for Mr Hutton and Mr Warnock?
Easy pickings.
-
I would say this.
-
Taxi for Mr Hutton and Mr Warnock?
Easy pickings.
Low hanging fruit, but clearly rotten.
-
Let's be honest, the vast majority of them wouldn't give a shit what was said to them by anybody. They're all a bunch of overpaid, over hyped, unintelligent, arrogant arseholes.
The only players who I would suggest might have a degree of hurt this evening would be Albrighton, Gabby and Gary Gardner.
I agree with that. We have become Comfort Zone F.C. a sort of knackers' yard for not particularly good players and management. A place where they need not worry about a thing before picking up a fat salary. Make a bad mistake that contributes to costing a game? Don't worry about it! Pick up your £50K a week. They don't expect to win the FA cup or be in danger of winning a trophy so what does it matter just as long as we stay treading water in midtable.
-
That comment "There's a good living to be made at Villa Park as long as they don't get relegated." or something similar is still as valid today as it was when it was made.
-
I read today that we might offer heskey a new deal, words would fail me, we need to off load these losers
-
Thanks a lot u fuckers.
-
I read today that we might offer heskey a new deal, words would fail me, we need to off load these losers
Heskey to Sunderland, please.
-
Bit harsh to go into the dressing room and blame Heskey for today.
-
Where would you start? I'd let the kids leave the room to go and think about the game themselves. I'd hold our senior players back and say the following:
I'd remind them that our club has a rich history and that we have always been among the élite of English football.I'd ask them how many European cups Arsenal have won?
I'd ask them if they think that they have lived up to our illustrious history over the past two seasons or if they think they have given our fans their money's worth. I'd ask if they think that sort of capitulation is acceptable when they earn ££££s each week? I'd fine them all (our 'senior' players that is) two weeks ages. Anybody who had a problem with it would be placed on the transfer list, with immediate effect.
I'd tell them I'd rather have the kids on the field, or even 11 donkeys who were prepared to burst themselves for Aston Villa, than have any of those wasters.
-
It was probably more like a Mike Bassett team talk...
-
A variation on the Leyton Orient manager clip except it would be Dunne, Warnock and Hutton getting the 2 weeks notice before the kick-off
-
It's Randy Lerner I'd like to talk to, never mind the manager and players. What would you all to say to him?
-
It's Randy Lerner I'd like to talk to, never mind the manager and players. What would you all to say to him?
How would he have got on in the old AGMs where Doug was always slated?
-
It's Randy Lerner I'd like to talk to, never mind the manager and players. What would you all to say to him?
I'd ask him to promise that he will let whoever is our manager completely restructure the squad in the summer. He might need to take a hit on some players like Hutton, Warnock and possibly even N'Zogbia as I'm not sure it's going to work out. In the long-term it'd be worth taking a financial hit this summer , that is unless he'd be happy to see us in the Championship within 18 months.
I'd also ask him not to sanction new contracts for Heskey and Beye. I'd ask him to set aside at least £20m to rebuild our defence.
-
I read today that we might offer heskey a new deal, words would fail me, we need to off load these losers
Well I've read some stupid stuff in my time but that has to take the biscuit, I personally have been looking forward to waiting too see what our starting line up will be and not having to worry about Emile being included. I wish the guy no ill and hope he plays for another few seasons, injury free but just not for us. I want the best for us ( or the best we can afford) but Emile just is not it.
-
Go and give your shirts to 11 fans in the stands and fuck off home. You've tried your best but lets give the the fans a go.
-
It's Randy Lerner I'd like to talk to, never mind the manager and players. What would you all to say to him?
You signed the manager YOU sort it and NOW.
-
Sack Mcleish.
-
It's Randy Lerner I'd like to talk to, never mind the manager and players. What would you all to say to him?
You gave him the job, you knew the likely reaction, so how about backing him rather than using him as a convenient scapegoat?
-
Is this the Birmingham City dressing room?
why? They won something
-
It's Randy Lerner I'd like to talk to, never mind the manager and players. What would you all to say to him?
You gave him the job, you knew the likely reaction, so how about backing him rather than using him as a convenient scapegoat?
Beware the silent man and the dog who doesn't bark.
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
And what sort of owner would you want?
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
And what sort of owner would you want?
Somebody with half a business brain, not some spoilt rich kid who is demonstrably crap at sports ownership. Somebody better than Lerner.
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
And what sort of owner would you want?
Somebody with half a business brain, not some spoilt rich kid who is demonstrably crap at sports ownership. Somebody better than Lerner.
Of course; they're queuing up along Trinity Rd.
-
Aye. Its becoming increasingly apparent that Lerner was Doug's last joke on us. Who better to carry on the reign of managing us like a corner shop than a billionaire in his own image - tighter than a gnat's chuff
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
And what sort of owner would you want?
Somebody with half a business brain, not some spoilt rich kid who is demonstrably crap at sports ownership. Somebody better than Lerner.
Of course; they're queuing up along Trinity Rd.
One of the reasons we're not exactly attractive is the huge mess that Lerner has made of the finances. The club's net value is less than when Ellis sold up.
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
And what sort of owner would you want?
Somebody with half a business brain, not some spoilt rich kid who is demonstrably crap at sports ownership. Somebody better than Lerner.
Of course; they're queuing up along Trinity Rd.
One of the reasons we're not exactly attractive is the huge mess that Lerner has made of the finances. The club's net value is less than when Ellis sold up.
'Huge mess' - the only club owner in history to be criticised for letting a manager buy too many players.
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
And what sort of owner would you want?
Somebody with half a business brain, not some spoilt rich kid who is demonstrably crap at sports ownership. Somebody better than Lerner.
Of course; they're queuing up along Trinity Rd.
One of the reasons we're not exactly attractive is the huge mess that Lerner has made of the finances. The club's net value is less than when Ellis sold up.
'Huge mess' - the only club owner in history to be criticised for letting a manager buy too many players.
like risdale you mean? i would have thought keeping check of a meglomaniac like MON was the least of his responsibilites to the club.
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
And what sort of owner would you want?
Somebody with half a business brain, not some spoilt rich kid who is demonstrably crap at sports ownership. Somebody better than Lerner.
Of course; they're queuing up along Trinity Rd.
One of the reasons we're not exactly attractive is the huge mess that Lerner has made of the finances. The club's net value is less than when Ellis sold up.
'Huge mess' - the only club owner in history to be criticised for letting a manager buy too many players.
The only club owner in history? Ever heard of a certain club from Yorkshire? Buying players is all well and good if you can afford them.
-
Too late to back him he has been hung out to dry and this lot cannot care less, please sell up and go.
You have had your fun with your expensive toy and broken it.
And what sort of owner would you want?
Somebody with half a business brain, not some spoilt rich kid who is demonstrably crap at sports ownership. Somebody better than Lerner.
Of course; they're queuing up along Trinity Rd.
One of the reasons we're not exactly attractive is the huge mess that Lerner has made of the finances. The club's net value is less than when Ellis sold up.
'Huge mess' - the only club owner in history to be criticised for letting a manager buy too many players.
like risdale you mean? i would have thought keeping check of a meglomaniac like MON was the least of his responsibilites to the club.
Nothing like Ridsdale, as is obvious.
-
Obvious, or just that you hadn't thought of it?
-
Obvious, or just that you hadn't thought of it?
The difference between Leeds then and us now makes the difference obvious.
-
only difference between risdale and Lerner is deeper pockets. They both totally wrecked their club's fortunes for years by taking their eye off the ball.. If Lerner was employed by rather than owned the club he would have been sacked
-
Obvious, or just that you hadn't thought of it?
The difference between Leeds then and us now makes the difference obvious.
Even Leeds didn't go down overnight. Lerner's no better a businessman than Ridsdale, he was just lucky enough to inherit more money. It takes a special kind of imbecile to lose that much money though, and actually make the club worth less than when he bought it.
-
Obvious, or just that you hadn't thought of it?
The difference between Leeds then and us now makes the difference obvious.
Even Leeds didn't go down overnight. Lerner's no better a businessman than Ridsdale, he was just lucky enough to inherit more money. It takes a special kind of imbecile to lose that much money though, and actually make the club worth less than when he bought it.
Yet the common agreement is Lerner bought Villa on the cheap, so must be worth more now than then. Either way, it's irrelevant. Football clubs are worth what someone is prepared to pay. It would be very interesting to see how much a new owner would invest.
-
Risdale was involved in every transfer and fucked up with Other Peoples Money
Lerner abdicated responsibility for transfers and fucked up with his own money.
-
I think that, on balance, Lerner has been a good owner. I think the criticism of him can be a bit harsh sometimes. However, he has his failings and right now they are costing us. He hasn't surrounded himself with people who know the game. Hence we have messed up replacing MON (Have we really replaced him yet?) and we appear to have no strategy. We don't have any leadership at the club and it feels like we are drifting rather than building.
Ultimately, we are headed to a dangerous place. We need to arrest the slide and fast. There needs to be some fresh thinking, starting with the appointment of competent advisers/officers whatever you want to call them.
-
Well as I say, the club's net assets are less than in Ellis's last year, thanks to the huge losses of the last two years. So while you may be happy that Lerner has spent a lot of money, the fact is he has wasted most of it, and that waste coupled with the fact that he doesn't want to spend any more means that we are heading back to where we were when he took over. Selling our better players and seeing midtable mediocrity as something to aspire to.
-
The only defence of Lerner it seems is that could have been someone worse.
-
What worries me is that the return to mediocrity has occurred at a rate which outstrips the speed with which we regained our pride from 2006 onwards.
It's very hard not too look at the club now, at the amounts of money spent (and this isn't just a dig at Lerner), at what we've got now and where we are, plus where we are going to be given their new strategy, and feel very disappointed.
I keep saying this but were a malevolent force to have come down from space last summer with the mission of sucking the lifeblood, hope, and ambition out of Aston Villa, I don't think it could have taken a more productive course than Lerner has in that same time.
Well intentioned he may be, but he's proving in two different sports, several thousand miles apart, that he doesn't have the first clue how to run a sports business.
-
bottom line is Lerner didn't have a clue what he was doing. All that bobbins about no transfer budget the General and his disciples used to parrot to us all when we questioned why we had so many high paid non-playing reserves has all come home to roost. Whether its his money he wasted, or just money he'll claw back off us over the next 10 years is beside the point. We now have a smaller squad,and more debts than Doug's last season. He really should look to sell
-
bottom line is Lerner didn't have a clue what he was doing. All that bobbins about no transfer budget the General and his disciples used to parrot to us all when we questioned why we had so many high paid non-playing reserves has all come home to roost. Whether its his money he wasted, or just money he'll claw back off us over the next 10 years is beside the point. We now have a smaller squad,and more debts than Doug's last season. He really should look to sell
Indeed Greg. Plus we had General Krulak coming out with bollocks like "the losses were all part of the plan and what we expected." Only for O'Neill to flounce off and Lerner to burn the cheque book faster than Harry Redknapp with HMRC knocking at the door.
-
yep. god knows what they were thinking. I can only surmise MON guaranteed he'd have us in the CL by 2011, so the losses would be offset by the influx of bigger prize money sponsership etc.. Utter madness pinning the clubs future on that.
-
I would tell a few of them that they are twats and then I would probably urinate on Mcleish. Today I have nothing but disdain for the rash behaviour of Dunne, the sheer headless chicken wank that we have to put up with from Warnock, the pointlessness of Hutton and the smugness of the entire Arsenal Football club. And the media wankfest over that overrated bunch of screbs wearing the Arsenal shirt. Wenger is a prick and it will be a pleasing sight to see the back of him. Van Persie should keep his elbows to himself also-what a depressing day. Fuck them all as harsh as it sounds. Half time was the happiest I have felt all season regarding Villa. Then I would roll on the floor and hide under a shoe........it was a long night after that game, and then up at 7am to teach 21 kids English.Safe to say that they did not have an enthusiastic teacher this morning.
-
I would tell a few of them that they are twats and then I would probably urinate on Mcleish. Today I have nothing but disdain for the rash behaviour of Dunne, the sheer headless chicken wank that we have to put up with from Warnock, the pointlessness of Hutton and the smugness of the entire Arsenal Football club. And the media wankfest over that overrated bunch of screbs wearing the Arsenal shirt. Wenger is a prick and it will be a pleasing sight to see the back of him. Van Persie should keep his elbows to himself also-what a depressing day. Fuck them all as harsh as it sounds. Half time was the happiest I have felt all season regarding Villa. Then I would roll on the floor and hide under a shoe........it was a long night after that game, and then up at 7am to teach 21 kids English.Safe to say that they did not have an enthusiastic teacher this morning.
It might be a good English lesson for them if one of the kids comes in wearing an Arsenal scarf.
-
I would tell a few of them that they are twats and then I would probably urinate on Mcleish. Today I have nothing but disdain for the rash behaviour of Dunne, the sheer headless chicken wank that we have to put up with from Warnock, the pointlessness of Hutton and the smugness of the entire Arsenal Football club. And the media wankfest over that overrated bunch of screbs wearing the Arsenal shirt. Wenger is a prick and it will be a pleasing sight to see the back of him. Van Persie should keep his elbows to himself also-what a depressing day. Fuck them all as harsh as it sounds. Half time was the happiest I have felt all season regarding Villa. Then I would roll on the floor and hide under a shoe........it was a long night after that game, and then up at 7am to teach 21 kids English.Safe to say that they did not have an enthusiastic teacher this morning.
It might be a good English lesson for them if one of the kids comes in wearing an Arsenal scarf.
Haha. There would be a possibility of him being sent to the corner, as would be the level of my pettiness!
-
ROBBO posted something similar a while ago:
We don't care if you have problems with the manager or you don't like the training methods or you wish to be somewhere else. You are living our dream, to be paid huge incomes to play football for the team we love. Villa is our passion and when we see you guys just going through the motions seemingly without any desire to represent the shirt it really pisses us off. There is no excuse for the dismal displays we've been watching over the last few months. Next time you run onto the Villa Park (or any other) pitch have a look around the ground. Every single Villa supporter wishes he/she was you. You are our players. The very least we expect is a total committment to the club.
Fantastic
-
Wouldn't say anything,you'd just hear machine gun fire!!! >:(
-
only difference between risdale and Lerner is deeper pockets. They both totally wrecked their club's fortunes for years by taking their eye off the ball..
"Totally wrecked"??
There goes that hyperbole again. Last time I looked we were mid-table in the Premiership and in no danger of going into administration.
So what Lerner has done is scale down his spending in order to keep the club stable, that may annoy those of you who think we should be winning things (it irks me but that's the reality), but "totally wrecked"? No.
-
What a question ! I just wish that I had the chance to vent my feelings to the team and especially my old mate Alex. Fristly I would ask Alex to leave the room as if he started to cry having been shouted it it would just not be right would it? Secondly I would ask the players if they really wanted to wear the Villa shirt or as with most of them they only turn up for the money. Thirdly I would confront Alex and ask why he was wrecking not only the team but also the club as a whole. On the way to the ground there is no atmosphere whatsoever it's more like going to a bleeding funeral rather than a football match. The bloke must have such thick skin as not to realise its all going tits up. How much longer if it hasn't been long enough already are we supposed to be going to the match with no repsect for the manager at all.
Will look forward to the AM fan club replying to my comments.
-
What a question ! I just wish that I had the chance to vent my feelings to the team and especially my old mate Alex. Fristly I would ask Alex to leave the room as if he started to cry having been shouted it it would just not be right would it? Secondly I would ask the players if they really wanted to wear the Villa shirt or as with most of them they only turn up for the money. Thirdly I would confront Alex and ask why he was wrecking not only the team but also the club as a whole. On the way to the ground there is no atmosphere whatsoever it's more like going to a bleeding funeral rather than a football match. The bloke must have such thick skin as not to realise its all going tits up. How much longer if it hasn't been long enough already are we supposed to be going to the match with no repsect for the manager at all.
Will look forward to the AM fan club replying to my comments.
ob·sessed /əbˈsɛst/
1. having an obsession (usually followed by with or by): He is obsessed with eliminating guilt.
2. having or displaying signs of an obsession.
3. a cock or turd.
-
Thirdly I would confront Alex and ask why he was wrecking not only the team but also the club as a whole. On the way to the ground there is no atmosphere whatsoever it's more like going to a bleeding funeral rather than a football match. The bloke must have such thick skin as not to realise its all going tits up. How much longer if it hasn't been long enough already are we supposed to be going to the match with no repsect for the manager at all.
Will look forward to the AM fan club replying to my comments.
Sorry, how is he wrecking the club overall. Surely the person who appointed him then hasn't backed him as that responsibility. Also, apart from Hutton, how has he wrecked the team? Dunne, Warnock and Collins were playing just as badly last season in places. And with injuries and lack of funds, we can't replace them, or other players who aren't performing.
-
I'd go fucking spare at the players.
-
What a question ! I just wish that I had the chance to vent my feelings to the team and especially my old mate Alex. Fristly I would ask Alex to leave the room as if he started to cry having been shouted it it would just not be right would it? Secondly I would ask the players if they really wanted to wear the Villa shirt or as with most of them they only turn up for the money. Thirdly I would confront Alex and ask why he was wrecking not only the team but also the club as a whole. On the way to the ground there is no atmosphere whatsoever it's more like going to a bleeding funeral rather than a football match. The bloke must have such thick skin as not to realise its all going tits up. How much longer if it hasn't been long enough already are we supposed to be going to the match with no repsect for the manager at all.
Will look forward to the AM fan club replying to my comments.
ob·sessed /əbˈsɛst/
1. having an obsession (usually followed by with or by): He is obsessed with eliminating guilt.
2. having or displaying signs of an obsession.
3. a cock or turd.
The Rt Hon Sir Algernon Cockbiscuit III is obviously just a k**b up to his "I love Alex again" I'm begining tot hink it's Alex himself. Not obsessed at all just a person with an opinion that is different to yours (thank god)
-
Personally i am happy with Lerner and what hes done, but if we're going to get a new owner I hope Harry Redknapps dog will come in with a bid for the club. I hear it's loaded!!
-
You may have a difference of opinion but please be civil about it.
-
Taxi for Mr Hutton and Mr Warnock?
.. is the correct answer
-
I think I'd do this.
-
What a question ! I just wish that I had the chance to vent my feelings to the team and especially my old mate Alex. Fristly I would ask Alex to leave the room as if he started to cry having been shouted it it would just not be right would it?
I doubt he would be upset by anything you said. I doubt even more that you would have the nerve to shout at him in the first place After all, you couldn't be bothered to attend a 'mass protest' against him.
-
only difference between risdale and Lerner is deeper pockets. They both totally wrecked their club's fortunes for years by taking their eye off the ball..
"Totally wrecked"??
There goes that hyperbole again. Last time I looked we were mid-table in the Premiership and in no danger of going into administration.
So what Lerner has done is scale down his spending in order to keep the club stable, that may annoy those of you who think we should be winning things (it irks me but that's the reality), but "totally wrecked"? No.
well it depends on your ambitions for the club. I suppose being a lower midtable club who has to sell all their decent players every few years is something to aim for, but honestly for that we could have kept Ellis if we wanted to become a wigan or a blackburn. Way i see it, I wouldn't bet against Leeds finishing above us in a few years time in the premiership which says more about our decline than their rise from the ashes.
-
Ah Mr Dunne, Mr Warnock and Mr Hutton,
Jolly nice effort today chaps.
-
only difference between risdale and Lerner is deeper pockets. They both totally wrecked their club's fortunes for years by taking their eye off the ball..
"Totally wrecked"??
There goes that hyperbole again. Last time I looked we were mid-table in the Premiership and in no danger of going into administration.
So what Lerner has done is scale down his spending in order to keep the club stable, that may annoy those of you who think we should be winning things (it irks me but that's the reality), but "totally wrecked"? No.
well it depends on your ambitions for the club. I suppose being a lower midtable club who has to sell all their decent players every few years is something to aim for, but honestly for that we could have kept Ellis if we wanted to become a wigan or a blackburn. Way i see it, I wouldn't bet against Leeds finishing above us in a few years time in the premiership which says more about our decline than their rise from the ashes.
It's not something to aim for and it's not something I want, I'd like to win things and be good.
But it's where we are currently and it's not "totally wrecked".
Darlington are totally wrecked, Leeds were totally wrecked, Portsmouth, Lincoln, Stockport, and very soon, Small Heath are totally wrecked. Villa are just a bit mediocre at the moment, cut the hyperbole (not just you) and I'll take your comments more seriously.
-
fair enough. We're back where we started then in 2006. I leave it to others to decide if thats a good place to be.
-
We weren't totally wrecked in 2006 either.
-
true, at least we weren't up to our eyeballs in debt.
-
We weren't totally wrecked in 2006 either.
No, but the trends we were seeing under both manager and chairman had us heading in worrying direction.
I think we're in a better state know as we actually have some very good players at the club, but poor defending and inconsistency is costing us. Blame the manager for that if you like, but I do think we need less now than the wholesale changes of 2006.
And lets not forget that it was only 12 months ago that we bought Darren Bent. I'm of the opinion that we get the wages where we want them and then start building again, but we'll have to wait until the summer to find out if that's right or not.
-
I think we should report Van Persie to the FA. Whose with me lads? Because of course that incident cost us the result.
-
We weren't totally wrecked in 2006 either.
No, but the trends we were seeing under both manager and chairman had us heading in worrying direction.
I think we're in a better state know as we actually have some very good players at the club, but poor defending and inconsistency is costing us. Blame the manager for that if you like, but I do think we need less now than the wholesale changes of 2006.
And lets not forget that it was only 12 months ago that we bought Darren Bent. I'm of the opinion that we get the wages where we want them and then start building again, but we'll have to wait until the summer to find out if that's right or not.
No way will Lerner start spending big again. The Bent signing was purely an emergency measure to prevent us getting relegated and making his investment worth even less. We've made huge losses, and there's still the small matter of tens of millions of loans that need to be repaid. Anybody expecting us to do anything other than tread water even after the current cutbacks is going to be disappointed.
-
No way will Lerner start spending big again. The Bent signing was purely an emergency measure to prevent us getting relegated and making his investment worth even less. We've made huge losses, and there's still the small matter of tens of millions of loans that need to be repaid. Anybody expecting us to do anything other than tread water even after the current cutbacks is going to be disappointed.
You may be right, but I'm taking the 'wait and see' line on it.
I'm not expecting spending of the scale we saw when he first arrived, but a release of some of the Downing/Young money and that being spent on up and coming players.
-
but a release of some of the Downing/Young money and that being spent on up and coming players.
Wasn't the vast majority of the Young transfer money spent on compensating previous managers and paying our bitter rivals to take its manager off their hands?
-
Indeed Chico, that money will all be long gone, wasted on wages for players like Beye, Heskey and Jenas, buying the likes of Hutton and N'Zogbia, not to mention compensation pay outs in respect of O'Neill, Hullier and McLeish. As Paulie said earlier, if you really hated Villa and set out to knacker them, you'd struggle to do as good a job of it as Lerner has over the last year or so.
-
but a release of some of the Downing/Young money and that being spent on up and coming players.
Wasn't the vast majority of the Young transfer money spent on compensating previous managers and paying our bitter rivals to take its manager off their hands?
Maybe we can hope some of it was put into some brilliant investment scheme and has quadrupled in value allowing us to get a shiny new defence this summer.....Ever the optimist.
-
It has taken me the better part of 24 hours to calm down about this, but still the rage builds just thinking about it. It would end with something along the lines of 'I'll cut off your nan's giro, set your house on fire after I've posted some cat shit through the letter box and beat your entire family with a cricket bat and stuff them into a piss stained matress I'm leaving outside my place for the salvation army to collect'. That's about as polite as I can be at the moment.
-
'You are all playing for your places on Wednesday. I dont care who you are, or how much you are being paid, whether the fans love you or loathe you, if I decide on Wednesday you still deserve your place presume it is your last game and you will have to work together to show me why you deserve to stay there. Some of you are being dropped. You wont be back into the team until you have proved in training and at Reserve team level you can do your job. I will play Baker, Grealish, Burke and Graham if I have to. I am 100% serious. You are lucky Wednesday is after the Transfer Deadline or I would be telling some of you to fuck off.'
-
Trouble is, what can someone like AM say to a player like Dunne or Warnock ? You're out the club if you don't improve? erm nope he's not because we can't afford to pay him off and we haven't got anyone else anyway and can't buy anyone. AM's hands are totally tied so threats are pointless-. They can near enough play how they like while Lerner is protecting them via the cash squeeze
-
' that was less painful than when we lost 3-2 at Highbury. at least you had the courtesy not to hang on till stoppage time...."
-
What a question ! I just wish that I had the chance to vent my feelings to the team and especially my old mate Alex. Fristly I would ask Alex to leave the room as if he started to cry having been shouted it it would just not be right would it?
I doubt he would be upset by anything you said. I doubt even more that you would have the nerve to shout at him in the first place After all, you couldn't be bothered to attend a 'mass protest' against him.
ohhhhhhhhh catty or what !!!! Dave the moderator ! as previously mentioned when you are employed the idea is that you turn up for work and do a good shift......maybe AM should take a note and start to win us a few games wouldn't that be a novelty eh?
-
How about just before the match against QPR Randy Lerner walks into the dressing and hands Alex his P45?
Now wouldn't that solve some issues ? And just think the AM fan club (not all of you out there before I get anymore replies) would then be able to go back down their little holes.
-
I have another one !!! How about just before kick off tomorrow evening Randy Lerner enters the dressing room and says " Alex I'm really sorry but I made a huge mistake I thought you were Mark Hughes" and now that Mark Hughes will be in the next dug out would you mind swopping? Just think how f**ked off the QPR fans would be then.
I bet all the AM fan club could then become QPR fans as they dont really mind who AM manages
-
is this AM Fanclub some kind of tribute band to Teenage Fanclub?
-
Waaaaahhhhh!
-
is this AM Fanclub some kind of tribute band to Teenage Fanclub?
Well by the bleeding commenst that some fans are making they are either kids pretending to be adults or they are just thick s**t fans or haven't a clue what they are talking about. Other than that they are Scottish or blue noses on here trying to rile me !!
-
Well by the bleeding commenst that some fans are making they are either kids pretending to be adults or they are just thick s**t fans or haven't a clue what they are talking about
Yep - you've certainly described at least one of the posters on this site
-
Well by the bleeding commenst that some fans are making they are either kids pretending to be adults or they are just thick s**t fans or haven't a clue what they are talking about
Yep - you've certainly described at least one of the posters on this site
His complete lack of self-awareness is magnificent, isn't it?
-
is this AM Fanclub some kind of tribute band to Teenage Fanclub?
Well by the bleeding commenst that some fans are making they are either kids pretending to be adults or they are just thick s**t fans or haven't a clue what they are talking about. Other than that they are Scottish or blue noses on here trying to rile me !!
Thats' right, because all Scottish defend every Scotsman or woman alive whatever they do. And if you're Scottish you cannot support Villa.
-
is this AM Fanclub some kind of tribute band to Teenage Fanclub?
Well by the bleeding commenst that some fans are making they are either kids pretending to be adults or they are just thick s**t fans or haven't a clue what they are talking about. Other than that they are Scottish or blue noses on here trying to rile me
!!
Wrogn agian.
-
is this AM Fanclub some kind of tribute band to Teenage Fanclub?
No, we just can't stand digital radio.
Bring back the crackle and hiss.
-
DazzyG, your posts physically hurt my brain to read. The lack of logic, the poor grammar and absolutely dreadful punctuation really do belong somewhere like Keep Right On. You'd fit right in there. Like them you are driven by a hatred of your local rivals greater than the love you feel for your own team. I'm no fan of McLeish. I have serious reservations about his style of play and his abilities but in spite of that I hope he succeeds. You do not. Reading your posts since Sunday's horrific capitulation make it seem like you can barely contain your glee at the fact that we, the team you purportedly support , lost enabling you to prove a sad little point against people on here. There are noses and albion who seem to hate Villa less than you. I can picture you now watching those seven horrific minutes where our last chance of silverware this season was pissed up the wall and unlike most Villa rather than rage you were probably wanking yourself off at the excitement and enjoyment of being (in your sad little world) being proved right. You really are a sad little wanker.
-
DazzyG, your posts physically hurt my brain to read. The lack of logic, the poor grammar and absolutely dreadful punctuation really do belong somewhere like Keep Right On. You'd fit right in there. Like them you are driven by a hatred of your local rivals greater than the love you feel for your own team. I'm no fan of McLeish. I have serious reservations about his style of play and his abilities but in spite of that I hope he succeeds. You do not. Reading your posts since Sunday's horrific capitulation make it seem like you can barely contain your glee at the fact that we, the team you purportedly support , lost enabling you to prove a sad little point against people on here. There are noses and albion who seem to hate Villa less than you. I can picture you now watching those seven horrific minutes where our last chance of silverware this season was pissed up the wall and unlike most Villa rather than rage you were probably wanking yourself off at the excitement and enjoyment of being (in your sad little world) being proved right. You really are a sad little wanker.
+1
-
What a question ! I just wish that I had the chance to vent my feelings to the team and especially my old mate Alex. Fristly I would ask Alex to leave the room as if he started to cry having been shouted it it would just not be right would it?
I doubt he would be upset by anything you said. I doubt even more that you would have the nerve to shout at him in the first place After all, you couldn't be bothered to attend a 'mass protest' against him.
ohhhhhhhhh catty or what !!!! Dave the moderator ! as previously mentioned when you are employed the idea is that you turn up for work and do a good shift......maybe AM should take a note and start to win us a few games wouldn't that be a novelty eh?
I've asked you this before, and you've not replied. How is coming straight from work an excuse for turning up early and not hanging around until the time this protest was due to start?
-
is this AM Fanclub some kind of tribute band to Teenage Fanclub?
Well by the bleeding commenst that some fans are making they are either kids pretending to be adults or they are just thick s**t fans or haven't a clue what they are talking about. Other than that they are Scottish or blue noses on here trying to rile me !!
(http://www.bright-and-sparkling.co.uk/blog/cockerel.jpg)
-
How about just before the match against QPR Randy Lerner walks into the dressing and hands Alex his P45?
Now wouldn't that solve some issues ? And just think the AM fan club (not all of you out there before I get anymore replies) would then be able to go back down their little holes.
You do know that won't happen don't you? I think only relegation will get him sacked, and none of us want that. Randy (and we'll never know why) thought that McLeish, with his excellent record in Prem management, could do the job for Villa. What kind of a job he wants him to do is up for debate, but he's Randy's man. To be fair to McLeish, Randy should be backing him more, but again, I just don't trust McLeish with the money.
-
is this AM Fanclub some kind of tribute band to Teenage Fanclub?
Well by the bleeding commenst that some fans are making they are either kids pretending to be adults or they are just thick s**t fans or haven't a clue what they are talking about. Other than that they are Scottish or blue noses on here trying to rile me !!
Yep, that's right, no one supports the Villa like you do. This site is all about your relationship with the club, after all.
You're behaving like a childish brat now.