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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: villajk on January 17, 2012, 04:42:14 PM
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Not sure where to put this:
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2576964,00.html
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Ticket prices for the next home match with QPR have now been reduced throughout the stadium - as a thank-you for the loyal support of the claret and blue army and with our FA Cup tie at Arsenal in mind.
Season card holders can also bring up to six family members or friends for £10 AND receive double RAV [Recruit-a-Villan] points too.
From today, adult tickets will be priced at £20 in the North Stand/Holte End and £25 in Trinity Road/Doug Ellis Stand.
Juniors will be priced at £10 and all other concessions at just £15 throughout the whole stadium.
The decision to reduce prices for this game has been bolstered by our cup draw with Arsenal and our intention to encourage a massive following on our visit to the Emirates Stadium.
You can pick up tickets in person from Villa Village or New Street, on the phone via 0800 612 0970 or buy online - click here.
Details for the FA Cup fourth round match at Arsenal have been confirmed, with a 4pm kick-off on Sunday January 29.
Ticket prices for that away clash are £35 for adults, £15 for O65s and £14 for U16s.
They will go on sale on Monday January 16 and further information can be found - click here.
Free coach travel from Villa Park will also be available for all supporters who wish to take up this offer.
Supporters who has already purchased for the QPR fixture will be contacted shortly to discuss refund policy.
Everyone at Aston Villa would like to thank you for your continued support throughout this season and hope to see you at Villa Park for the QPR match..
Wonder if the refund includes season card holders.
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Damn my quoting.
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Maybe a reward for season ticket holders, would be a free ticket for an away game.
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Maybe a reward for season ticket holders, would be a free ticket for an away game.
Great idea, lets take 18k to Wolves.
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Maybe a reward for season ticket holders, would be a free ticket for an away game.
Great idea, lets take 18k to Wolves.
Thanksd mate...Lets do it!
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They must really be struggling to shift seats for this one.
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They must really be struggling to shift seats for this one.
Not suprised, we barely managed 30k at home to Everton on a Saturday at 3pm, imagine how bad it'll be for shit QPR on a wednesday night.
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Is a ST really worth it?
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Yep, I think it's a bit of a smokescreen that, I'm sure they'd still have reduced tickets for this one if we'd been knocked out by Bristol Rovers.
I got my ticket for QPR for 13 quid off Viagogo anyway.
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[/quote]Is a ST really worth it?
Thats what we've been discussing. £500+ for the guarantee of sitting in the holte end or we all pick the games throughout the season and get them at massively discounted prices and we just have to put up with sitting in different seats in different parts of the ground.
Obviously the risk there is if/when games pick up/new buyers come in or whatever and demand for tickets picks up. What do we do then? Or we may go back to our season tickets again.
I feel at the minute I'm being punished in the wallet for being a season ticket holder.
Whether its sky, mobile phone networks or football grounds. New customers seem to get better deals than seasoned loyal customers.
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Well I hope they are open to allowing seating area swaps. I couldn't afford tickets in the Trinity Middle for my (over 65) Dad and (under 16) nephew as all tickets were £37! So I purchased three tickets for the Holte Lower @ £20 each. Now it's £24 for adults and £9 for u16's in the Trinity.
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Wonder if the refund includes season card holders.
It certainly should! I expect they'll argue, as I think they have in the past, that a ST is good value anyway, but there will come a point when ST holders will stop renewing if these special offers become a regular thing.
I applaud the club for making an effort to get supporters to come to games, whether it's with free coach travel or reduced prices at home, but as a ST holder who attends every game I'd quite like to be included in the rewards that are being handed out.
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So would I.
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I had a call from the Villa yesterday asking me various questions, mainly about my season ticket: was I happy with my seat; had I used any of the vouchers that came with the pack; what was the main reason for having a season ticket; would I be renewing; and finally, had I missed any home games this season. As it turns out, I wasn't there on Saturday. I've since found out that they also telephoned a friend of mine (a fellow a season ticket holder) who didn't attend on Saturday so I suspect they're looking into attendances quite closely at the moment.
It was quite good to be able to put my point across to someone at the club. I said that I was happy with my seat, I hadn't used any of the vouchers (and instead of such gimics would prefer just a cheaper ticket). I hadn't yet decided whether to renew next season as it very much depends on performances on the pitch and also I didn't feel a season ticket represented such good value for money as it used to because of the constant discounts on individual match ticket prices. I don't think there's been one game this season that hasn't had some sort of deal. I also said because of this I would expect season ticket prices to be reduced for next season as they've obviously got ticket prices wrong for this season. From a personal point of view I pointed out that ticket prices in the Lower Trinity are in my opinion wrongly priced for cup games as we're lumped in with the "posh" seats in the Middle/Upper Trinity.
Anyway I'm not holding my breath that anything will come of it but at least they're paying attention to the gates, even if it is only from a point of that they're losing too much money from a lack of bums on seats!
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The problem is that they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Attendances have been poor been poor this season and thus they need to give out discounts to get bums on seats but when they do they upset the ST holders.
How you address this catch-22 is a debatable and obviously you would have a different stance depending on whether you are an ST holder or someone who goes to the odd game each season.
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It was quite good to be able to put my point across to someone at the club. I said that I was happy with my seat, I hadn't used any of the vouchers (and instead of such gimics would prefer just a cheaper ticket). I hadn't yet decided whether to renew next season as it very much depends on performances on the pitch and also I didn't feel a season ticket represented such good value for money as it used to because of the constant discounts on individual match ticket prices. I don't think there's been one game this season that hasn't had some sort of deal. I also said because of this I would expect season ticket prices to be reduced for next season as they've obviously got ticket prices wrong for this season.
Well said, SoTC! This is the sort of sensible response that the club needs to take note of.
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Wonder if the refund includes season card holders.
It certainly should! I expect they'll argue, as I think they have in the past, that a ST is good value anyway, but there will come a point when ST holders will stop renewing if these special offers become a regular thing.
I applaud the club for making an effort to get supporters to come to games, whether it's with free coach travel or reduced prices at home, but as a ST holder who attends every game I'd quite like to be included in the rewards that are being handed out.
I'm with you there, Frank.
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Cash Cows.
The casual punter gets an iPhone 4 for £15 on a no contract deal. Those who have had a Nokia 6440 for 15 years get offered a Galaxy S2 for £400 if they sign up for 5h talk time at £55 per month (reduced debit beyond 2GB of data)
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If they don't do somethin then the ground will be empty. It's a funny one. I attended about 12 games last year without a season ticket, this year I've not been down since the bolton cup game
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It is a problem, because actually a fair few season ticket holders who are considering whether to renew because of the prices, would probably also be thinking twice if the ground was as empty as it might get without these offers.
Villa are clear that no-one can get a season ticket holder's seat over the course of a season cheaper than a season ticket holder. They keep an eye on this and ensure it doesn't happen. You can get cheap seats in the North stand maybe, the empty lower corners of the Holte, the weirdly unfillable bits of the Doug Ellis, but anyone who is talking about their "£500 season ticket" against these offers isn't comparing like with like. Those seats carry on selling at full price for enough of the season to keep your season ticket beating them.
The vouchers with the season ticket don't really cost the club anything so they couldn't reduce the price instead. They rely on a good proportion of people that go to the counter to use a free pie voucher buying something else with it so they've actually added a sale. Even the £5 Villa shop voucher will be probably be spent on something costing more than £5, maybe it tips the balance for some people on a £40 shirt by bringing it down to £35, and yet again they have made a little more money, but done it with something that has had a feelgood factor.
However - I did say at the SCG that perception is everything, and I put it to them that they are getting to the stage where they need to think about announcing reductions on next season's season ticket for this season's season ticket holders in order to redress that perception. I have also suggested loyalty reductions e.g 5% off for 5 years in a row, 10% for 10 years etc. These are things that keep people in when they are thinking of dropping out. "If I give up my season ticket now and want to come back in a couple of years, I'll have to go back to full price" - it just makes you think twice about giving it up.
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The yearly reductions mentioned above sound like a good idea.
I paid £405 for mine this year in the Doug Ellis P1. We moved 20 seats towards the holte end because it was £115 cheaper. I know it's a cheap ticket but I still don't think i've had value for money this season barring 2 games. Asked today would I renew, probably not, would a reduction in price see me waver probably yes. An increase in price, no chance.
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The yearly reductions mentioned above sound like a good idea.
. An increase in price, no chance.
I don't think the club could justify putting the price of a ST up next season, bearing in mind how many offers they made to walk up fans this year. I'll be amazed if they do.
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It is a problem, because actually a fair few season ticket holders who are considering whether to renew because of the prices, would probably also be thinking twice if the ground was as empty as it might get without these offers.
Villa are clear that no-one can get a season ticket holder's seat over the course of a season cheaper than a season ticket holder. They keep an eye on this and ensure it doesn't happen. You can get cheap seats in the North stand maybe, the empty lower corners of the Holte, the weirdly unfillable bits of the Doug Ellis, but anyone who is talking about their "£500 season ticket" against these offers isn't comparing like with like. Those seats carry on selling at full price for enough of the season to keep your season ticket beating them.
The vouchers with the season ticket don't really cost the club anything so they couldn't reduce the price instead. They rely on a good proportion of people that go to the counter to use a free pie voucher buying something else with it so they've actually added a sale. Even the £5 Villa shop voucher will be probably be spent on something costing more than £5, maybe it tips the balance for some people on a £40 shirt by bringing it down to £35, and yet again they have made a little more money, but done it with something that has had a feelgood factor.
However - I did say at the SCG that perception is everything, and I put it to them that they are getting to the stage where they need to think about announcing reductions on next season's season ticket for this season's season ticket holders in order to redress that perception. I have also suggested loyalty reductions e.g 5% off for 5 years in a row, 10% for 10 years etc. These are things that keep people in when they are thinking of dropping out. "If I give up my season ticket now and want to come back in a couple of years, I'll have to go back to full price" - it just makes you think twice about giving it up.
I'm sure they will make the ST cheaper than the equivalent seat on a match by match offers basis, but:
- is it sufficiently cheaper to warrant paying a big chunk of money in one go?
- is it enough of an attraction for people to commit to buying into every single match in advance?
Also, i was wondering, when crowds are poor, what's to stop people buying the cheap offer seats and moving somewhere better? Where i sit, for example, is in the central upper Trinity, but there are lots of seats behind our block empty - seats which aren't on offer. What's to stop someone buying cheap seats and just picking an empty seat here?
I also take your point about not comparing like to like, but it really is about the perception as much as the reality, and people will think long and hard about whether they're getting value.
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I also take your point about not comparing like to like, but it really is about the perception as much as the reality, and people will think long and hard about whether they're getting value.
Which is what I said.
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There are two main advantages in having a season ticket:
1 - you sit in the same seat, with the same people around you (except cup games when all and sundry get let in).
2 - you can be in the away scheme.
These reasons may not be that important to some people so they may be tempted to wait for the offer each game.
Personally, I am hoping for a reduction in the season ticket price next season. I don't want three cups of tea for the price of two or a free pie (not permitted at half time). I have already got my season ticket holder 'reserved' seat sticker so I don't need a new one of them.
Any increase in price will be very foolhardy as I will also be for stumping up the money. We need a significant gesture and that can only be a reduction in cost. A freeze in price will be seen as not good enough by me.
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I know that pricing is an issue with many people these days but I can't help but think that if we could just start winning games the ground would soon fill up. Simples!
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There are two main advantages in having a season ticket:
1 - you sit in the same seat, with the same people around you (except cup games when all and sundry get let in).
2 - you can be in the away scheme.
These reasons may not be that important to some people so they may be tempted to wait for the offer each game.
Personally, I am hoping for a reduction in the season ticket price next season. I don't want three cups of tea for the price of two or a free pie (not permitted at half time). I have already got my season ticket holder 'reserved' seat sticker so I don't need a new one of them.
Any increase in price will be very foolhardy as I will also be for stumping up the money. We need a significant gesture and that can only be a reduction in cost. A freeze in price will be seen as not good enough by me.
Judging by the what the person said from the ticket office when interviewing about our season ticket They are looking at offering a price freeze to ST holders who purchase early ie as soon as the season finishes
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There are two main advantages in having a season ticket:
1 - you sit in the same seat, with the same people around you (except cup games when all and sundry get let in).
2 - you can be in the away scheme.
These reasons may not be that important to some people so they may be tempted to wait for the offer each game.
Personally, I am hoping for a reduction in the season ticket price next season. I don't want three cups of tea for the price of two or a free pie (not permitted at half time). I have already got my season ticket holder 'reserved' seat sticker so I don't need a new one of them.
Any increase in price will be very foolhardy as I will also be for stumping up the money. We need a significant gesture and that can only be a reduction in cost. A freeze in price will be seen as not good enough by me.
I've had two of those removed from my seat!
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There are two main advantages in having a season ticket:
1 - you sit in the same seat, with the same people around you (except cup games when all and sundry get let in).
2 - you can be in the away scheme.
These reasons may not be that important to some people so they may be tempted to wait for the offer each game.
Personally, I am hoping for a reduction in the season ticket price next season. I don't want three cups of tea for the price of two or a free pie (not permitted at half time). I have already got my season ticket holder 'reserved' seat sticker so I don't need a new one of them.
Any increase in price will be very foolhardy as I will also be for stumping up the money. We need a significant gesture and that can only be a reduction in cost. A freeze in price will be seen as not good enough by me.
I've had two of those removed from my seat!
The rotters!
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I've had two of those removed from my seat!
The rotters!
That's almost what I said ;)
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Ticket prices for the next home match with QPR have now been reduced throughout the stadium - as a thank-you for the loyal support of the claret and blue .
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Supporters who has already purchased for the QPR fixture will be contacted shortly to discuss refund policy.
Wonder if the refund includes season card holders.
Anybody heard any more about this?
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I can really see there being a 25-27K gate for this!
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I can really see there being a 25-27K gate for this!
I agree. Added on to all other things, The weather forecast is for it to be cold, very cold.
As season tickets holders we haven't heard anything about the refund policy.
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The refund policy is for fans who brought tickets before all prices were dropped. It isnt for season ticket holders.
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Another nail in the coffin.
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The refund policy is for fans who brought tickets before all prices were dropped. It isnt for season ticket holders.
Someone I know is a season ticket holder and had put their seat on viagogo for the QPR match before this announcement. It is still listed there, for 40 quid.
What chance do they have of selling it when the club have made it 25 quid to sit anywhere you like in the ground?
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The refund policy is for fans who brought tickets before all prices were dropped. It isnt for season ticket holders.
Another reason not to renew then. Ridiculous. I think a letter to the powers that be is in order.
I try to be positive about everything Villa but this just takes the biscuit.
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The refund policy is for fans who brought tickets before all prices were dropped. It isnt for season ticket holders.
Someone I know is a season ticket holder and had put their seat on viagogo for the QPR match before this announcement. It is still listed there, for 40 quid.
What chance do they have of selling it when the club have made it 25 quid to sit anywhere you like in the ground?
Unfortunately, another example of season ticket holders seemingly being treated as not as important and the pay per game fan.
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But with a season ticket it has only cost us a further £30 to go as a family of 4 which is excellent value
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The refund policy is for fans who brought tickets before all prices were dropped. It isnt for season ticket holders.
Someone I know is a season ticket holder and had put their seat on viagogo for the QPR match before this announcement. It is still listed there, for 40 quid.
What chance do they have of selling it when the club have made it 25 quid to sit anywhere you like in the ground?
Unfortunately, another example of season ticket holders seemingly being treated as not as important and the pay per game fan.
To be honest, I can see it from both sides.
They're doing what they can to get people into the ground, but have to balance it against pissing off their most loyal customers (who at some games this season I reckon have constituted about 80 percent of the paying custom).
It's never really black or white with this sort of thing.
I'm almost certain not to renew mine next season. My Mrs is getting made redundant and my income is volatile. It's not about "definitely can't afford it", I could find the money from somewhere. The difference is that now it means making sacrifices elsewhere, so I've got to be sure what I am getting is worth the other sacrifices, and I honestly doubt it will be.
That's the kind of situation the club are going to find with a lot of punters next season, I think.
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Oooops. Mental lapse moment. I'll go and look for the correct thread now!
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But with a season ticket it has only cost us a further £30 to go as a family of 4 which is excellent value
I appreciate circumstances are different, but for us we are four season ticket holders and do not have any body else interested in attending games (one of our season tickets has been available all season and we've only managed to shift if half a dozen times).
No advantage here for us.
Never mind.