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Title: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Ads on January 12, 2012, 08:18:42 PM
Did anybody else see or hear anything about this?

A mate who runs one of the coaches told me on Saturday that they’d held his coach and a few others up at 15:00 because the police didn’t want any more Villa fans hitting the town centre.

The police had said there’d been a load of aggro with Bristol City in the city centre.

I was speaking to a colleague from the Bristol area today and he brought this up, as he'd heard on the local news about the trouble, with apparently two coach loads being sent back after they’d found bats and other weaponry on board.

Apparently we were all filmed going into the ground and further arrests are expected.

Anybody else here or see anything? I thought this stuff, bar a SHA game, was dead.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: AV82EC on January 12, 2012, 08:29:56 PM
There did seem to be a fair few of our dickhead supporter element their on Saturday.  However their ability act like a bunch of bellends was more than offset by the older blokes who managed to get a proper version of Holtenders in the Sky going.  Hats off.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on January 12, 2012, 08:30:26 PM
We only had an allocation of 1500 didn't we? Hardly an enormous away following for a large city like Bristol. Weren't Bristol City also getting beat at Crawley at 3pm?
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Ads on January 12, 2012, 08:58:32 PM
I noticed a few left of flares or the smoke thingys (ala Prague) as the teams came out.

Bristol City away at a tiny ground, with top flight opposition coming down to a place only an hour away with all afternoon drinking on the cards = trouble I guess.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: He wears a magic hat on January 12, 2012, 09:39:54 PM
There did seem to be a fair few of our dickhead supporter element their on Saturday.  However their ability act like a bunch of bellends was more than offset by the older blokes who managed to get a proper version of Holtenders in the Sky going.  Hats off.
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there was a bald guy standing on one of the barriers. i guessed he was trying to get something going but couldnt quiet hear
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Slaphead on January 12, 2012, 10:00:15 PM
I didn't see any trouble although the Bristol fans seemed up for a fight, lots of the stone island and Burbery dap crew roaming. Despite wearing no colours, me and my mate heard quite a few comments to entice us including some 60 year old woman shouting in our faces "come on the gas". All the "usual" away pubs were shut for "home supporters only".
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: dom73 on January 12, 2012, 10:11:40 PM
Heard a few villa got picked off by larger numbers of rovers by the ground and their was an altercation with bristol city after the game in the centre.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: AV82EC on January 12, 2012, 10:38:42 PM
There did seem to be a fair few of our dickhead supporter element their on Saturday.  However their ability act like a bunch of bellends was more than offset by the older blokes who managed to get a proper version of Holtenders in the Sky going.  Hats off.
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there was a bald guy standing on one of the barriers. i guessed he was trying to get something going but couldnt quiet hear

He was one but we had a guy older than him near us who started us singing it, verses and everything.  I don't know the words but was mumbling along.   
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Holte132 on January 13, 2012, 07:21:57 AM
He was one but we had a guy older than him near us who started us singing it, verses and everything.  I don't know the words but was mumbling along.   
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I didn't know that there were verses to Holte Enders in the Sky! What are they?
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: UK Redsox on January 13, 2012, 07:46:25 AM
We only had an allocation of 1500 didn't we? Hardly an enormous away following for a large city like Bristol. Weren't Bristol City also getting beat at Crawley at 3pm?

City were away at Crawley
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: UK Redsox on January 13, 2012, 07:55:10 AM
I heard about the buses getting held whilst I was in the queue at the chippy.

As for inside the ground; I wouldn't be surprised if someone from WMP has a quiet word with the bloke who kept climbing up on one of the fences and punching his fist in the air (not exactly a youngster either).

As I mentioned in another thread, there was a bit of trouble in one of the smaller sections of the away area. Some of the younger (and clearly pissed) blokes wanted to have a go at the stewards but fair play to the couple of older guys who managed to calm them down.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 13, 2012, 09:05:56 AM
Went walking down the Witton Lane one dark and dusky day,
I spied a poor City fan a-running far away.
I said to that poor City fan "It's time for you to die".
He said "Yes I know sir - Holte Enders in the sky".

He ran down the terraces and fell towards the gate,
Little did he know that death was sure to be his fate,
He had one more short hour to live and then he'd hear the cry
That ev'ry City fan does fear - Holte Enders in the sky.

Their fists were just like granite and their pockets lined with lead,
And if they catch a City fan he's sure to wind up dead.
Cuz Villa fans rule Birmingham and City fans know why,
Cuz they have seen the glory of...
Holte Enders in the sky.

Yippee-eye-ayyyy, yippee-eye-oooohhhh

 Holte Enders in the sky.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 13, 2012, 09:11:12 AM
Marvellous.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 13, 2012, 09:17:11 AM
I noticed a few left of flares or the smoke thingys (ala Prague) as the teams came out.
I remember Prague, plenty of dickheads there.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: mrfuse on January 13, 2012, 09:17:40 AM
I heard about the buses getting held whilst I was in the queue at the chippy.

Crikey you hold some sway
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: lordmcgrath5 on January 13, 2012, 09:44:23 AM
I heard about the buses getting held whilst I was in the queue at the chippy.

Crikey you hold some sway

Applause!! I enjoyed that, mrfuse.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Olneythelonely on January 13, 2012, 09:47:15 AM
I noticed a few left of flares or the smoke thingys (ala Prague) as the teams came out.
I remember Prague, plenty of dickheads there.

I was there for a start. I'm a right knobhead.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: sg on January 13, 2012, 10:26:34 AM
Bizarre. This is news to me. 

3 of us went down early morning from new st, drank in the city centre and walked it all the way to and from the ground. Didnt get one hint of trouble or aggro whatsoever.

Thought it was a good day besides missing the last train back!
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: UK Redsox on January 13, 2012, 10:55:56 AM
I heard about the buses getting held whilst I was in the queue at the chippy.

Crikey you hold some sway

I was the only one that the locals could understand
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Holte132 on January 13, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
Went walking down the Witton Lane one dark and dusky day,
I spied a poor City fan a-running far away.
I said to that poor City fan "It's time for you to die".
He said "Yes I know sir - Holte Enders in the sky".

He ran down the terraces and fell towards the gate,
Little did he know that death was sure to be his fate,
He had one more short hour to live and then he'd hear the cry
That ev'ry City fan does fear - Holte Enders in the sky.

Their fists were just like granite and their pockets lined with lead,
And if they catch a City fan he's sure to wind up dead.
Cuz Villa fans rule Birmingham and City fans know why,
Cuz they have seen the glory of...
Holte Enders in the sky.

Yippee-eye-ayyyy, yippee-eye-oooohhhh

 Holte Enders in the sky.


Thanks for that! How about us all singing the whole lot tomorrow against Everton?
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 13, 2012, 02:05:39 PM
Good luck with that!
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: sideshow on January 13, 2012, 02:13:33 PM
My mate got headbutted outside a chippy on the high street by the ground after the game. 100% unprovoked. The bloke walked past, heard our accents (no colours on), stopped and said "wheres your boys then", dropped the nut and his mate dragged him away. Nutters, we'd only stopped for some chips.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 13, 2012, 03:14:11 PM
I didn't see or hear of any trouble. I got to Bristol at about 2pm and went to the Wellington. Then went back there after the game and didn't have any problem with their fans.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 13, 2012, 05:57:37 PM
There was always trouble down there in the 70s. I remember a huge wurzel walking alongside the mob from The Special shouting BERRRRRISTERRRRRRL. Nobody went near him. I think they were wary of what he might be hiding in his beard.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Kingthing on January 13, 2012, 08:44:30 PM
Went walking down the Witton Lane one dark and dusky day,
I spied a poor City fan a-running far away.
I said to that poor City fan "It's time for you to die".
He said "Yes I know sir - Holte Enders in the sky".

He ran down the terraces and fell towards the gate,
Little did he know that death was sure to be his fate,
He had one more short hour to live and then he'd hear the cry
That ev'ry City fan does fear - Holte Enders in the sky.

Their fists were just like granite and their pockets lined with lead,
And if they catch a City fan he's sure to wind up dead.
Cuz Villa fans rule Birmingham and City fans know why,
Cuz they have seen the glory of...
Holte Enders in the sky.

Yippee-eye-ayyyy, yippee-eye-oooohhhh

 Holte Enders in the sky.

With added rustling......


Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: john e on January 13, 2012, 08:54:56 PM
Went walking down the Witton Lane one dark and dusky day,
I spied a poor City fan a-running far away.
I said to that poor City fan "It's time for you to die".
He said "Yes I know sir - Holte Enders in the sky".

He ran down the terraces and fell towards the gate,
Little did he know that death was sure to be his fate,
He had one more short hour to live and then he'd hear the cry
That ev'ry City fan does fear - Holte Enders in the sky.

Their fists were just like granite and their pockets lined with lead,
And if they catch a City fan he's sure to wind up dead.
Cuz Villa fans rule Birmingham and City fans know why,
Cuz they have seen the glory of...
Holte Enders in the sky.

Yippee-eye-ayyyy, yippee-eye-oooohhhh

 Holte Enders in the sky.

With added rustling......





having just clicked on your you tube link,
 i found out that the original version of Ghostriders was by Burl Ives in 1948, which i never knew, always thought it was Johnny Cash.
also if you google 'ghostriders in the sky' and look at the Wiki page, it tells you the whole history of the song, but more importantly the Holte End gets a mention as the song is our terrace chant.
so there you go
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Kingthing on January 13, 2012, 09:07:42 PM
Went walking down the Witton Lane one dark and dusky day,
I spied a poor City fan a-running far away.
I said to that poor City fan "It's time for you to die".
He said "Yes I know sir - Holte Enders in the sky".

He ran down the terraces and fell towards the gate,
Little did he know that death was sure to be his fate,
He had one more short hour to live and then he'd hear the cry
That ev'ry City fan does fear - Holte Enders in the sky.

Their fists were just like granite and their pockets lined with lead,
And if they catch a City fan he's sure to wind up dead.
Cuz Villa fans rule Birmingham and City fans know why,
Cuz they have seen the glory of...
Holte Enders in the sky.

Yippee-eye-ayyyy, yippee-eye-oooohhhh

 Holte Enders in the sky.

With added rustling......





having just clicked on your you tube link,
 i found out that the original version of Ghostriders was by Burl Ives in 1948, which i never knew, always thought it was Johnny Cash.
also if you google 'ghostriders in the sky' and look at the Wiki page, it tells you the whole history of the song, but more importantly the Holte End gets a mention as the song is our terrace chant.
so there you go

Good work. How many times have you tried singing the words to that instrumental ?
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 13, 2012, 09:11:37 PM
My advice, don't make the same mistake as I did by listening to the Tom Jones version!
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on January 13, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
Are Rovers the Small Heath of Bristol?
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: D.boy on January 13, 2012, 09:58:59 PM
Yet another SHA mention.  ::)
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: UK Redsox on January 13, 2012, 10:30:18 PM
Are Rovers the Small Heath of Bristol?

 >:(

No. That Somerset lot are called "City", so its them who are SHA-esque.

Rovers are the up-market team from the Gloucestershire (ie correct) side of the River Avon.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 13, 2012, 10:39:51 PM
Are Rovers the Small Heath of Bristol?
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Are Rovers the Small Heath of Bristol?

 >:(

No. That Somerset lot are called "City", so its them who are SHA-esque.

Rovers are the up-market team from the Gloucestershire (ie correct) side of the River Avon.

>:

No. That Somerset lot are called "City", so its them who are SHA-esque.

Rovers are the up-market team from the Gloucestershire (ie correct) side of the River Avon.


There was nothing 'up-market' about Rovers when they were throwing sharpened up old pennies at us in that Tote End. They were as rough as f**k and nobody can change that now. Mind you, so we're we.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: UK Redsox on January 13, 2012, 11:20:53 PM
You just got in from the pub Dave?

Your quoting's a mess
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 14, 2012, 12:01:08 AM
You just got in from the pub Dave?

Your quoting's a mess

I have now. When I posted it originally it was a pain; an iPain in fact.
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: willywombat on January 15, 2012, 11:20:09 AM
It was always dog rough down there, they used to bring a fair old crew up here too in the 70's
Title: Re: Trouble down at Bristol?
Post by: gerags on January 15, 2012, 03:19:48 PM
There was a fair bit of trouble down there when we played them in the FA in the 90s.
My mate and I had a pint in a pub close to the ground but it was very uncomfortable so we headed to the ground after just the one.

We saw some chasing around before the match, with one lad being chased into and out of a corner shop my mate was buying cigarettes from.

When we got into the away end I vaguely remember a few of our supporters turning up with masks on after what appeared to have been a bit of trouble.
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