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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: gervilla on January 11, 2012, 08:31:07 PM
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When exactly is "Tumbling Bears" contract up ?
I'm presuming it finishes up at the end of July. I think we are safe enough that he is not going to get another from us so can we get a clock up here counting down the days ?
I would like the situation to finish up with SSN going over live to Pete Colley at Villa Park just in time for the first fireworks of the all night party .
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Another Heskey bashing thread. How original as i've never seen one before.
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Another Heskey bashing thread. How original as i've never seen one before.
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Another Heskey bashing thread. How original as i've never seen one before.
It would be nice to have a positive thread after a match winning performance but we know that is not going to happen
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When exactly is "Tumbling Bears" contract up ?
I'm presuming it finishes up at the end of July. I think we are safe enough that he is not going to get another from us so can we get a clock up here counting down the days ?
I would like the situation to finish up with SSN going over live to Pete Colley at Villa Park just in time for the first fireworks of the all night party .
Big Eck was making dangerous noises about keeping him on earlier in the season. And he does seem to talk him up and really rate him for some unfathomable reason.
But hopefully he'll see sense come the summer. Or if not, the decision will be taken out of his hands. I'll be with you Ger, cracking out the party hat and poppers.
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Big Eck was making dangerous noises about keeping him on earlier in the season. And he does seem to talk him up and really rate him for some unfathomable reason.
I think that's more to trying to build up the bloke's confidence. Heskey will be gone in the summer.
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Maybe Pete Colly is going to be there as the club are unveiling the new bronze statue of Emile outside the Trinity Road Stand to celebrate his record breaking goalscoring record.
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Another Heskey bashing thread. How original as i've never seen one before.
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It's called sarcasm.
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Another Heskey bashing thread. How original as i've never seen one before.
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It's called sarcasm.
Whats that then ?
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Another Heskey bashing thread. How original as i've never seen one before.
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It's called sarcasm.
Whats that then ?
Something that's slightly more original than starting a Heskey bashing thread.
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Why are you getting yer nickers in a knot about it, are ye related or something ?
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Big Eck was making dangerous noises about keeping him on earlier in the season. And he does seem to talk him up and really rate him for some unfathomable reason.
I think that's more to trying to build up the bloke's confidence. Heskey will be gone in the summer.
I bloody hope so. I will then set about trying to wipe the memory of his ever playing for Villa just like I did with John Fashasomebody.
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I actually liked Fash the bash - in a 'he's clearly shit but he tries' type of way.
I know that should be something I should maybe keep quiet about.
By the time he came to us, he was at least a yard off the pace. He was also in semi retirement mode, I think the move to us appealed so he could be closer where they filmed that God awful Gladiators. Awooga!
But he'd at least bash opposition centre backs up a bit, and did score a few useful goals in his short stint with us.
My heart sinks when I see Heskey come on or -worse- see him named in the starting line up ahead of Bannan, Ireland, the Fonz and just about any other competent footballer we have on the books.
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His salary alone makes him worth getting rid of ASAP. I'm sure he's a lovely bloke, but he's done very little for us other than bamboozle managers into playing him.
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When you think come June we'll have paid him close to £11m, you do have to ask whether Randy has a point or not.
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I actually liked Fash the bash - in a 'he's clearly shit but he tries' type of way.
I know that should be something I should maybe keep quiet about.
By the time he came to us, he was at least a yard off the pace. He was also in semi retirement mode, I think the move to us appealed so he could be closer where they filmed that God awful Gladiators. Awooga!
But he'd at least bash opposition centre backs up a bit, and did score a few useful goals in his short stint with us.
My heart sinks when I see Heskey come on or -worse- see him named in the starting line up ahead of Bannan, Ireland, the Fonz and just about any other competent footballer we have on the books.
That perfectly summed up how I feel when I see the starting 11 and he is in it, then the rage sets in....
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Sounds a good idea to me Gervilla.
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I was thrilled when we signed Fashanu.
But that's because I was more interested in Gladiators at that age than I was interested in football.
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One goal in his last 27 games and he hasn't scored and FA Cup goal for 7 years according to the commentator on Saturday. I for one would be happy to not see him in a Villa shirt again.
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One goal in his last 27 games and he hasn't scored and FA Cup goal for 7 years according to the commentator on Saturday.
SEVEN YEARS? Bloody hell, for a striker that's some feat.
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I was thrilled when we signed Fashanu.
But that's because I was more interested in Gladiators at that age than I was interested in football.
So was Fashanu.
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I really have no idea why we play Heskey. The sad thing is that I want him to prove us all wrong. When we signed him I loftily told people about his work rate and defensive qualities... particularly during corners. I even had faith in the urban myth that when he plays, Engand win. Unfortunately now when he plays, I just see him as a missed opportunity, an old pro who's just seeing out his contract. the worrying thing is he's keeping the kids out of the 1st team. Chuck Gardner in for a few games... things surely couldn't be worse?
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When you think come June we'll have paid him close to £11m, you do have to ask whether Randy has a point or not.
Quite.
Another one is Habib Beye, who will have cost us £9m by the time he fucks off in the summer.
I don't really give a shit if Heskey is a nice bloke, he's a truly crap footballer who has contributed next to nothing in his time here, and it is a sad state of affairs that so many people are counting down the weeks until dross like him and Beye are off the payroll.
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I really have no idea why we play Heskey. The sad thing is that I want him to prove us all wrong. When we signed him I loftily told people about his work rate and defensive qualities... particularly during corners. I even had faith in the urban myth that when he plays, Engand win. Unfortunately now when he plays, I just see him as a missed opportunity, an old pro who's just seeing out his contract. the worrying thing is he's keeping the kids out of the 1st team. Chuck Gardner in for a few games... things surely couldn't be worse?
Sorry... not Chuck... I meant Gary. Chuck's the brother who works in Macky D's.
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Am I the only person who feels a little sorry for Heskey? Taking out the fact he earns stupid wages he always tries, is usually not the worst person on the pitch in a Villa shirt and sometimes has a positive influence in a game. He seemingly never moans or causing issues yet he is often the subject of piss taking and positives are rarely spoken about.
I think that he is a nice guy but at the wrong club. He should have stayed at Blose or moved to Leicester, maybe back to Wigan or up to Stoke. A nice guy but a limited footballer and at the wrong club.
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How much are we paying him a week? I bet it's an obscene amount
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How much are we paying him a week? I bet it's an obscene amount
Pelty said on here last year that Heskey was our highest earner.
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Even the Shrewsbury Town fans are mocking him on their Blue-and-Amber fan site:-
http://blueandamber.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=77122
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Even the Shrewsbury Town fans are mocking him on their Blue-and-Amber fan site:-
http://blueandamber.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=77122
I tend not to say this too often, but someone should point out that he could buy their entire club with a month's wages.
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We wouldn't mock them on our web site because we were always taught not to mock the afflicted.
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I was thrilled when we signed Fashanu.
But that's because I was more interested in Gladiators at that age than I was interested in football.
So was Fashanu.
*chuckle*
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When you think come June we'll have paid him close to £11m, you do have to ask whether Randy has a point or not.
Quite.
Another one is Habib Beye, who will have cost us £9m by the time he fucks off in the summer.
I don't really give a shit if Heskey is a nice bloke, he's a truly crap footballer who has contributed next to nothing in his time here, and it is a sad state of affairs that so many people are counting down the weeks until dross like him and Beye are off the payroll.
But he has contributed. But Beye has not even been played in double figures since he has been here (over 100 potential games). Compared to his time at Newcastle where he played 52 games and had a long term injury. Four Villa managers have all played Heskey alot and see something we can't, all four have not played Beye so they have seen something we haven't due to not seeing him in action. I can't believe he is any worse them Hutton.
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When you think come June we'll have paid him close to £11m, you do have to ask whether Randy has a point or not.
Quite.
Another one is Habib Beye, who will have cost us £9m by the time he fucks off in the summer.
I don't really give a shit if Heskey is a nice bloke, he's a truly crap footballer who has contributed next to nothing in his time here, and it is a sad state of affairs that so many people are counting down the weeks until dross like him and Beye are off the payroll.
But he has contributed. But Beye has not even been played in double figures since he has been here (over 100 potential games). Compared to his time at Newcastle where he played 52 games and had a long term injury. Four Villa managers have all played Heskey alot and see something we can't, all four have not played Beye so they have seen something we haven't due to not seeing him in action. I can't believe he is any worse them Hutton.
Heskey has contributed next to nothing.
Beye has conributed quite literally nothing.
The "managers have played him" argument is a bit of a catch-all thing though, you could say the same thing about every crap footballer - they get picked by lots of managers, too.
I tend to agree about Hutton, though. He's fucking terrible.
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But Emile has played and I like him. I totally appreciate what he has given to the Villa over how many seasons is it now? And it's not easy, going on and hearing , 'oooh' - a groan of disillusionment. But fair do's, he has gone on and given it. I think he's superb, because he is a gentleman player and a 'holder' who gets put on whenever, whoever the manager is, thinks, 'we need him' and he always does his best.
I am an Emile fan.
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Heskey has contributed next to nothing.
Beye has conributed quite literally nothing.
The "managers have played him" argument is a bit of a catch-all thing though, you could say the same thing about every crap footballer - they get picked by lots of managers, too.
I tend to agree about Hutton, though. He's fucking terrible.
I wasn't defending him with the managers playing him, just using it to state the total opposite reaction from the managers for Beye. Apart from the Rapid game where he was played out of position and had a truly woeful Curtis playing next to him, I can't remember him being Hutton or Warnock bad.
But as for Heskey, yes, he wouldn't have been my choice and obviously we probably would have fared better with a different player, but his early good season form in the few matches after Mon Left and under Houllier did a whole lot to keep us up. His winners against Baggies and Wolves plus the others he setup meant we went into the last few matches safe rather then still fighting for our life. But as always with Heskey, just when it looks like he might be useful to have he decides to get injured.
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I take your point re Houllier, but I think that's a very glossed vision of Heskey's contribution.
His winners against Wolves and Albion were in September and December, so it's not as if he secured our safety. As for the assists - i see he has one listed in the league last season.
Nine league goals in 2.5 years is an abysmal record for a striker, and his all-round play, whilst occasionally being useful, is nothing like enough to make up for it.
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I take your point re Houllier, but I think that's a very glossed vision of Heskey's contribution.
His winners against Wolves and Albion were in September and December, so it's not as if he secured our safety. As for the assists - i see he has one listed in the league last season.
Nine league goals in 2.5 years is an abysmal record for a striker, and his all-round play, whilst occasionally being useful, is nothing like enough to make up for it.
I didn't see the actual assists, but I think he setup Albrighton in one (actually might have been the loss against Spurs). But he definitely had a hand in a couple of goals as well if not the final ball by using his strength.
The winners might have been in in those months but it was still at least 6 more points more then we would have got without his goals. Yes ultimately we survived by more then that but would we have beaten Arse and Pool if the pressure was still there and we were on 6 less going into those games (Joint second from bottom). As i stated, the replacement player who played instead of Emile might have done better, but we will never know. So he might not have contributed much, but he did as much as anyone else in that year to ensure our survival.
But I still can't wait until he is gone. Maybe we can con someone into buying him in his last 6 months by linking him to a return to 'pool.
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I guess it is another pointless heskey bashing thread and everything that could be said about his years at Villa has been said and he seems like a nice bloke etc..etc., but what the hell, the countdown can't finish too soon for me. I stopped getting angry about his inclusion in the team when MON was still here. Now it just depresses me now like some sort of non-fatal medical complaint that you live with but gradually grinds you down over time. I'd imagine Piles feels similar, or Gout, or just chronic toothache. Hopefully come May there will finally be a cure.
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It's a puzzle about Beye, the times he has played he has been decent and yet no manager has played him. People call him crap but he was player of the season at Newcastle, just can't fathom, when weve had all kinds of trouble at right back that he wasn't given more of a go. Better than Hutton.
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I like the fact such a thread was started on the great mans birthday!! In fact he was born 11 January 1978! And the other fact Andy Carroll will never be as good as him. Now there is a poor footballer
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When you think come June we'll have paid him close to £11m, you do have to ask whether Randy has a point or not.
What - paid to him in wages, not transfer fees? Holy shit
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Im pretty sure Heskey is a nice bloke but he definitely needs to go this transfer winodw (which I doubt as he is injured) or the summer. He adds no value to the team. I am, however, dreading reading the headline in the summer "Heskey signs contract extension". I think this in it self deserves a protest should it happen
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When you think come June we'll have paid him close to £11m, you do have to ask whether Randy has a point or not.
What - paid to him in wages, not transfer fees? Holy shit
Randy hasn't got a point. He's the one signing the cheques.
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As a player he isn't good enough, which I think we all know, but I think a 'countdown' is unfair. Such treatment should be reserved for players who have taken the piss, not tried and sat around waiting for their wages - pretty much Stephen ireland up until a couple of weeks ago. Heskey has done what has been asked of him as best he could, so while I don't want him to be given an extension I do wish him well for the future.
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As a player he isn't good enough, which I think we all know, but I think a 'countdown' is unfair. Such treatment should be reserved for players who have taken the piss, not tried and sat around waiting for their wages - pretty much Stephen ireland up until a couple of weeks ago. Heskey has done what has been asked of him as best he could, so while I don't want him to be given an extension I do wish him well for the future.
Is my view on it, and very well put John.
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I think he could go MLS and play centre back.
I seriously don't think he'll continue at premier league level. So he could always end up back at Blues...
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As a player he isn't good enough, which I think we all know, but I think a 'countdown' is unfair. Such treatment should be reserved for players who have taken the piss, not tried and sat around waiting for their wages - pretty much Stephen ireland up until a couple of weeks ago. Heskey has done what has been asked of him as best he could, so while I don't want him to be given an extension I do wish him well for the future.
You are right there to be fair. At least he is trying for the team and not being a Habib Beye. Like I said in my post, he probably is a nice bloke but isn't good enough to take us forward. I feel sorry for him especially with the amount of abuse he gets.
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I was thrilled when we signed Fashanu.
But that's because I was more interested in Gladiators at that age than I was interested in football.
At that time I would have rather had Ulrika on the pitch than Fash!
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As a player he isn't good enough, which I think we all know, but I think a 'countdown' is unfair. Such treatment should be reserved for players who have taken the piss, not tried and sat around waiting for their wages - pretty much Stephen ireland up until a couple of weeks ago. Heskey has done what has been asked of him as best he could, so while I don't want him to be given an extension I do wish him well for the future.
You are right there to be fair. At least he is trying for the team and not being a Habib Beye. Like I said in my post, he probably is a nice bloke but isn't good enough to take us forward. I feel sorry for him especially with the amount of abuse he gets.
I agree entirely..............but:
Quote from: The Sound of Villadelphia on January 11, 2012, 08:27:32 PM
When you think come June we'll have paid him close to £11m, you do have to ask whether Randy has a point or not.
What - paid to him in wages, not transfer fees? Holy shit
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Maybe Pete Colly is going to be there as the club are unveiling the new bronze statue of Emile outside the Trinity Road Stand to celebrate his record breaking goalscoring record.
Excellent idea. Aesthetically speaking, a horizontal statue would form a nice counterpoint to the vertical McGregor one.
Seriously though, although not a huge fan of Emile I think he gets unfair stick and not enough recognition when he does make a contribution. Classic scapegoat if you ask me (and yes I do know what scapegoat means).
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I like Heskey
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But I still can't wait until he is gone. Maybe we can con someone into buying him in his last 6 months by linking him to a return to 'pool.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see MON come in for him.
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But I still can't wait until he is gone. Maybe we can con someone into buying him in his last 6 months by linking him to a return to 'pool.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see MON come in for him.
I wonder if Davey B will still be smiling if that happens.
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But I still can't wait until he is gone. Maybe we can con someone into buying him in his last 6 months by linking him to a return to 'pool.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see MON come in for him.
I wonder if Davey B will still be smiling if that happens.
I suspect Davey will stop smiling as soon as MON's transfer window opens on the 31st.
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I understand the groans, but what is Heskey to do when told he's in the team or told to get on the pitch as a sub? Or when he's played in midfield? Say he doesn't think he's up to it?
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"The Heskey Countdown" sounds like an episode title for The Big Bang Theory
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Even the Shrewsbury Town fans are mocking him on their Blue-and-Amber fan site:-
http://blueandamber.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=77122
I tend not to say this too often, but someone should point out that he could buy their entire club with a month's wages.
To be fair to STFC, the Club had net tangible assets of £13.02m at their last year-end (30/06/11), with only £5k of debt on the balance sheet and £1.68m of cash in the bank, so probably one of the best capitalised clubs in the Football League. However, I get your drift and was a little surprised when looking at the fan site that they didn't have more important issues to discuss, such as finally getting promotion from League Two.
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Heskey for England.
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I like Heskey
I think he's just a couple of seasons on even for MON.
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But I still can't wait until he is gone. Maybe we can con someone into buying him in his last 6 months by linking him to a return to 'pool.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see MON come in for him.
I think he's just a couple of seasons on even for MON.
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I was thrilled when we signed Fashanu.
But that's because I was more interested in Gladiators at that age than I was interested in football.
At that time I would have rather had Ulrika on the pitch than Fash!
Ulrika..... best line ever from Bob Mortimer 'Those are the longest tits i've ever seen!!!'
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"The Heskey Countdown" sounds like an episode title for The Big Bang Theory
Or the latest discovered manuscript from Robert Ludlum -
The Scarlatti Inheritance (1971)
The Osterman Weekend (1972)
The Matlock Paper (1973)
Trevayne (1973, writing under the pen-name Jonathan Ryder)
The Cry of the Halidon (1974, writing under the pen-name Jonathan Ryder)
The Rhinemann Exchange (1974)
The Road to Gandolfo (1975, writing under the pen-name Michael Shepherd)
The Gemini Contenders (1976)
The Chancellor Manuscript (1977)
The Holcroft Covenant (1978)
The Matarese Circle (1979)
The Bourne Identity (1980)
The Parsifal Mosaic (1982)
The Aquitaine Progression (1984)
The Bourne Supremacy (1986)
The Icarus Agenda (1988)
The Bourne Ultimatum (1990)
The Road to Omaha (1992)
The Scorpio Illusion (1993)
The Apocalypse Watch (1995)
The Matarese Countdown (1997)
The Prometheus Deception (2000)
[edit] Credited to Ludlum, published posthumously
The Sigma Protocol (2001, the last novel written entirely by Ludlum)
The Janson Directive (2002)
The Tristan Betrayal (2003)
The Ambler Warning (2005)
The Bancroft Strategy (2006)
The Heskey Countdown (2012)