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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: AVGB1874 on December 30, 2011, 07:51:22 PM
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There are rumours, tweets that our beloved ex-chairman is to be knighted in the honours list! Now Randy will have to spend some cash in January....The Sir Doug Ellis Stand!
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What's it for, something to do with bicycles ??
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There is already one former Chairman with `Sir` before his name, would our Dear Leader David Cameron want to dilute that unique standing held by his Uncle William ?
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/111230/59/3xfps.html
Former Aston Villa chairman Doug Ellis is "delighted and humbled" by the award of a knighthood in the 2012 British New Year Honours list
Internet bollox, or no smoke without fire ?
https://twitter.com/#!/jamesnursey
If anyone connected with #avfc (identity embargoed until midnight) gets knighted tomorrow, think more to do with their charity work! Ha
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I wondered how long it would take.
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50 pages.
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There are rumours, tweets that our beloved ex-chairman is to be knighted in the honours list! Now Randy will have to spend some cash in January....The Sir Doug Ellis Stand!
Has Greg been spotted buying a season ticket as well?
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It must be for services to boxing in the Wirral!!!!!
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Well done Doug ;)
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50 pages.
I hate it when people say that.
60 pages.
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50 pages.
I hate it when people say that.
60 pages.
Haha.
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Congratulations Doug. Despite the fact that we didn't always agree with him as chairman, he did do a lot of good things for us. More importantly he was involved in a lot of good things outside of football that are easily forgotten or written off to self promotion. That wasn't always the case.
I hope he enjoys it.
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Bizarre:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/111230/59/3xfps.html
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How much will it cost this time to rename the Witton Lane stand?
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If true, congrats Doug.
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Doug Ellis is bigger than Ronnie Corbett - rumours he is only getting a poxy CBE.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/honours-list/8984082/New-Year-honours-Ronnie-Corbett-tipped-to-get-CBE.html
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AV 1 pulling up outside Buck House, HDE being greeted by Cameron and Prince William, Her Maj wearing claret and blue, Mervyn King throwing a bash at the BoE with Kennedy on the fiddle....priceless!
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AV 1 pulling up outside Buck House, HDE being greeted by Cameron and Prince William, Her Maj wearing claret and blue, Mervyn King throwing a bash at the BoE with Kennedy on the fiddle....priceless!
Or she could just come and do it on the pitch at half time during the Swansea game.
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Doug Ellis is bigger than Ronnie Corbett - rumours he is only getting a poxy CBE.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/honours-list/8984082/New-Year-honours-Ronnie-Corbett-tipped-to-get-CBE.html
He should be Sir Ronnie.
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It's way past time that this awards bollocks was scrapped
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50 pages.
I hate it when people say that.
60 pages.
Wouldthat be A4 or Fools cap
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if it happens, i guess we'll finally know how much it costs to buy a knighthood.
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Looks as though this news is true as it's now on both the Express and Telegraph websites.
Congratulations Doug; great news and fully deserved. Also, many happy returns for next Tuesday.
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if it happens, i guess we'll finally know how much it costs to buy a knighthood.
How much?
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if it happens, i guess we'll finally know how much it costs to buy a knighthood.
How much?
ask Lerner
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What's it for, something to do with bicycles ??
Will we get the bike racks renamed the "Sir Doug Ellis Bike Stand"? With a statue of him doing a bicycle kick?
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Someone mentioned his name had come down from the stand a while back. there was a forlorn hope Lerner had finally decided to do the decent thing but you can bet Doug's probably let it slip and demanded the Sir gets added. *cringe*
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if it happens, i guess we'll finally know how much it costs to buy a knighthood.
How much?
ask Lerner
Why would him selling Villa mean he gets knighted?
I thought you'd used up your daily quota of nonsense with your Beye stuff earlier. You've got quarter of an hour until your next ration.
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Well I will say congratulations Deadly. He should get a knighthood just for the way he laughed at Abramovich when Villa beat Chelski ;D
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Someone mentioned his name had come down from the stand a while back. there was a forlorn hope Lerner had finally decided to do the decent thing but you can bet Doug's probably let it slip and demanded the Sir gets added. *cringe*
Why don't you come down the match on Monday and tell him?
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if it happens, i guess we'll finally know how much it costs to buy a knighthood.
What the fuck are you on about now?
Are you suggesting that Ellis has bribed someone to get his Knighthood?
Are you saying that Lerner has such amazing influence with the Queen that he persuaded her to give him it?
Are you saying that he spent loads on charities just so he gets a knighthood? (This is the most likely, and if so then so what? Plenty of others have done the same and it's the charities that gain from the benevolence after all, no?).
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if it happens, i guess we'll finally know how much it costs to buy a knighthood.
How much?
How would Greg know what anything costs?
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if it happens, i guess we'll finally know how much it costs to buy a knighthood.
How much?
ask Lerner
I'm asking you as you seem to know how much one costs. So how much is it?
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Congratulations Doug. Hope he enjoys his day out to meet Lizzy.
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knighthoods should be for people who do real good. not some millionaire throwing his money around for his own self-grandeur
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if Randy tried to pull strings with the Queen to get Doug a knighthood, by the time it had been through Faulkner and our crack management team, the old boy would probably end up with a Pride of Britain award.
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knighthoods should be for people who do real good. not some millionaire throwing his money around for his own self-grandeur
And how much does it really matter?
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knighthoods should be for people who do real good. not some millionaire throwing his money around for his own self-grandeur
You don't think that the machinery he funded for the hospital did real good? Do you actually live in the real world, ever?
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He's spent decades trying to get it and I wont begrudge him his lifetime's ambition. Nice one Stuart Hall OBE as well.
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Congratulations Mr.Ellis.
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well i m pleased for the old goat. Wanted him to go when he did, but I genuinely believe he loves this club. So fair play to him. Hope he enjoys it and will look forward to some Viila reference when he receives it
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Congratulations Mr.Ellis.
That's Sir Mr Ellis to you.
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depends on your point of view really. who's kinder? Someone who's totally skint, but puts their change in a collecting bucket because they're put on the spot and can't really afford to or a multi-millionaire who has a million or two in loose change for charity that he probably gets tax relief on. I don't doubt a million does more good than loose change but i also don't doubt we'd all do the same if we had that sort of money. i'm not so sure we'd do it if we were skint
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knighthoods should be for people who do real good. not some millionaire throwing his money around for his own self-grandeur
Well, yes. But you know and I know that it doesn't really work that way does it? As a socialist I can't abide the honours system, but if they must insist on dishing them out, and if they can't give them all to dinner ladies, social workers and lollipop ladies, then at least dosh them out to people who give some of their ill-gotten gains back to society.
I can't begrudge him, and if seeing 'Sir' on the Witton Lane Stand annoys certain Villa fans than I see it as a bonus!
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Mr Eliis has his kinghthood for 'charitable services' and for that he has my respect and good health to enjoy it.
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knighthoods should be for people who do real good. not some millionaire throwing his money around for his own self-grandeur
Well, yes. But you know and I know that it doesn't really work that way does it? As a socialist I can't abide the honours system, but if they must insist on dishing them out, and if they can't give them all to dinner ladies, social workers and lollipop ladies, then at least dosh them out to people who give some of their ill-gotten gains back to society.
I can't begrudge him, and if seeing 'Sir' on the Witton Lane Stand annoys certain Villa fans than I see it as a bonus!
well quite. i will take comfort in the fact that he not the first or last complete rogue to get one
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Whilst still pleased for him, I just watched SSN. I laughed when he said " Its for them in some respects" ( Ie mostly for me!!!)
But fair flay to him anyway
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depends on your point of view really. who's kinder? Someone who's totally skint, but puts their change in a collecting bucket because they're put on the spot and can't really afford to or a multi-millionaire who has a million or two in loose change for charity that he probably gets tax relief on. I don't doubt a million does more good than loose change but i also don't doubt we'd all do the same if we had that sort of money. i'm not so sure we'd do it if we were skint
There are an awful lot of millionaires who don't give a single penny to charity, so I'm not going criticise one who gives a lot in time and money.
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He's spent decades trying to get it and I wont begrudge him his lifetime's ambition. Nice one Stuart Hall OBE as well.
And the Belguim's have fallen.
Well done to Stewart and Doug.
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Good for him, well done Herbert!
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depends on your point of view really. who's kinder? Someone who's totally skint, but puts their change in a collecting bucket because they're put on the spot and can't really afford to or a multi-millionaire who has a million or two in loose change for charity that he probably gets tax relief on. I don't doubt a million does more good than loose change but i also don't doubt we'd all do the same if we had that sort of money. i'm not so sure we'd do it if we were skint
There are an awful lot of millionaires who don't give a single penny to charity, so I'm not going criticise one who gives a lot in time and money.
true but it would have been nice if it had got round that Doug had been offered one but turned it down. Even my cynical old heart would have warmed to him if the eternal self-promoter has turned down the utlimate promotion
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depends on your point of view really. who's kinder? Someone who's totally skint, but puts their change in a collecting bucket because they're put on the spot and can't really afford to or a multi-millionaire who has a million or two in loose change for charity that he probably gets tax relief on. I don't doubt a million does more good than loose change but i also don't doubt we'd all do the same if we had that sort of money. i'm not so sure we'd do it if we were skint
There are an awful lot of millionaires who don't give a single penny to charity, so I'm not going criticise one who gives a lot in time and money.
true but it would have been nice if it had got round that Doug had been offered one but turned it down. Even my cynical old heart would have warmed to him if the eternal self-promoter has turned down the utlimate promotion
Where's the harm? He'll get to enjoy it for whatever time he's got left, and it might make him chip in a few more quid to charity to try and get an Alan Sugar style upgrade....
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I can't help but feel that every time someone gets upset about him he gets a warm glow of egotism. If you don't like Doug the best thing to do has always been to laugh at him or ignore him.
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I can't help but feel that every time someone gets upset about him he gets a warm glow of egotism.
Who, Doug or Greg?
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I can't help but feel that every time someone gets upset about him he gets a warm glow of egotism.
Who, Doug or Greg?
Yup.
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i can just about live with it if Lerner doesn't invite him to fix each new letter to the stand while on top of a mobile crane at the next home game.... Thats probably going to happen i'm guessing.
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well done Doug!!
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Big congrats!!!
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Classic Stuart Hall interview re. the honour on here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/front_page/16364899.stm).
Shame not many of the modern day employees of the BBC are as articulate as he is. Even if you do think he talks a right load of old bollocks, he's always been fun to listen to.
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Doug has bought this honour, but like so many "Sirs" these days he does not deserve such a title.
His disgraceful 17 month campaign against Tony Barton via the local and national media should have ruled him out altogether, but sadly these days money talks and the true nature of the person concerned is overlooked.
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Congratulations Doug I've met him a few times always been a gentleman.
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i can just about live with it if Lerner doesn't invite him to fix each new letter to the stand while on top of a mobile crane at the next home game.... Thats probably going to happen i'm guessing.
"The Sir Witton Lane Stand". Splendid.
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He certainly has not got it for his services to football!!!
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http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/12/31/former-aston-villa-chairman-doug-ellis-awarded-knighthood-in-queen-s-new-year-honours-97319-30036668/
FORMER Aston Villa chairman ‘Deadly’ Doug Ellis declared himself ‘‘over the moon’’ at being awarded a knighthood in the Queen’s New Year Honours.
Sir Doug, who is 88 on Tuesday, has been honoured for his support of hospitals, cancer charities, sports projects and children’s charities over many years. He is among scores of Midland winners whose work in their communities and for charity has been recognised.
Speaking to the Birmingham Mail from his second home in Parma, Majorca, Sir Doug said: “I am delighted beyond measure. I came from a humble background. There was no silver spoon, so to receive this honour is fantastic.
“I was born in Chester but the West Midlands is where I’ve brought up my family, where I achieved my success in business and where most of my employees during my business life have been based.
“War time service in the Far East brought home to me just how little some people have and I have always tried to give something back. It has been a privilege for me to help so many local institutions and charities to further their work and influence, particularly with an accent on youth and sport.”
Among charities he has supported are NSPCC, Childline and the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. In 2004 he was diagnosed with prostate cancer and two years later sold Villa to American Randy Lerner. He was awarded the OBE for services to football in 2005 and remains Life President of Aston Villa.
Last year Bimingham City University named its Perry Barr sports centre after him and in October Aston University followed suit by dedicating its Woodcock Street centre in his honour.
Sir Doug added: “I started out offering prizes for charity raffles and became more involved. I now receive about 20 requests from charities a week, I can’t respond to all of them but try to help three or four a week.”
‘Deadly’ Doug made his fortune as a pioneer of the package tour industry in Birmingham during the late 1940s and 1950s and first became Aston Villa chairman in 1968. His nickname was a result of his reputation for sacking managers. In 2004 he was diagnosed with prostate cancer and two years later sold the club to American Randy Lerner. He was awarded the OBE for services to football in 2005 and remains Life President of Aston Villa.
Villa chief executive Paul Faulkner said: “Everyone at Villa would like to congratulate Sir Doug on his wonderful award, which is a fitting tribute to a man who has given so much to the Midlands over the years.”
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http://bcove.me/fmmewij2
Audio interview with Sir Doug here. Terrible quality but amongst the gems to further provoke the debate.
"This is the biggest honour. "She is going to put the sword across my shoulders.
"I had to have broad shoulders to suffer the abuse but I still maintain I wouldn't borrow money unless I could pay for it.
"It will be good to see Her Majesty again, I made a mistake once and called her love. I gave her my book and said: 'it will send you to sleep love'."
"One bidder was the Chinaman who took Birmingham City.
"He sent Yu his right hand man. He came and spent a whole day at Villa.
"Our club shop said he was the best customer they had ever had. He bought everything to take back to Carson Yeung."
"In '68 when I took the Villa we were virtually bankrupt and couldn't afford to buy players so we bred them.
"I put more into breeding than anyone else.
"I put in £10,000 in and when we won the European Cup, seven of the academy boys were actually in the squad.
"They didn't all play but it was an absolutely vital contribution. We were famous for having homegrown players."
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Well done doug
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Congratulations Doug.
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Ten of thousands of Villa fans braved the snow to line The Mall, as Sir Doug Ellis made his way to Buckingham Palace to collect his Knighthood from Her Majesty.
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9258/kimjongilfuneral01.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/kimjongilfuneral01.jpg/)
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Quality picture Andy Lochhead in the air.
Congrats Doug.
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Well done Sir Doug. Reflects well on the club so all good.
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if it happens, i guess we'll finally know how much it costs to buy a knighthood.
How much?
ask Lerner
I'm asking you as you seem to know how much one costs. So how much is it?
He's probably given a few quid to the Tory party in his time!
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i can just about live with it if Lerner doesn't invite him to fix each new letter to the stand while on top of a mobile crane at the next home game.... Thats probably going to happen i'm guessing.
"The Sir Witton Lane Stand". Splendid.
It will be bad etiquette to order match tickets without the full title now. The 'Sir' must be included.
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i can just about live with it if Lerner doesn't invite him to fix each new letter to the stand while on top of a mobile crane at the next home game.... Thats probably going to happen i'm guessing.
"The Sir Witton Lane Stand". Splendid.
Hehe. Love it.
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So, will he be...
Sir Doug of Aston?
Sir Ellis of Witton?
Good luck to him, I have not agreed with all the things he has done over the years but I will not begrudge him this.
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So, will he be...
Sir Doug of Aston?
Sir Ellis of Witton?
Good luck to him, I have not agreed with all the things he has done over the years but I will not begrudge him this.
Neither will I. Congratulations, Mr. (Sir) Ellis.
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Ten of thousands of Villa fans braved the snow to line The Mall, as Sir Doug Ellis made his way to Buckingham Palace to collect his Knighthood from Her Majesty.
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9258/kimjongilfuneral01.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/kimjongilfuneral01.jpg/)
Love it.
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Congratulations Sir Doug !
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For once I agree with Gregnash. The old duffer knows he is nearing his checkout date and is just trying to buy his seat at the top table in the next life with some little 'charitable donations'. When you can afford to give away millions (cus no matter how rich you are, you cant take it with you) it dilutes the real spirit of giving. Ellis does not deserve an 'honour' from the queen or anyone else. He has always been a miserly old control freak. Obsessed with his own self importance.
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Ol' Doug has been given a knighthood for his charity work, not services to football (according to the Guardian).
Although they did mention something about the inventon of the bicycle kick ....
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I think he was given it for 'Services to Internet Forums'.
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It makes no difference to our lives so why do people get upset about it?
Charitable work is one of the very best reasons to be receive an award. None of us are totally selfless when giving, it's often a way to make ourselves feel better but that doesn't matter one jot to the organisations and individuals benefitting.
Congratulations Doug.
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knighthoods should be for people who do real good. not some millionaire throwing his money around for his own self-grandeur
I can't begrudge him, and if seeing 'Sir' on the Witton Lane Stand annoys certain Villa fans than I see it as a bonus!
Well that's one thing Greg won't have to worry about.
Congratulations Doug!
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Well done Sir Doug. I am very pleased that someone so closely associated with Aston Vills has been knighted.
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If Sir Herbert had been knighted for services to football, then I would have gone all gooey at this point.
But it was never going to happen, was it?
Still, I hope he enjoys playing with his gong.
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Ten of thousands of Villa fans braved the snow to line The Mall, as Sir Doug Ellis made his way to Buckingham Palace to collect his Knighthood from Her Majesty.
Very good comparison!
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9258/kimjongilfuneral01.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/kimjongilfuneral01.jpg/)
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Just remember how many people work with Aston Villa as long as he did so basically he done well apart from his treatment with Tony Barton and European Cup history. He have done lot of good though. But it is easy to be generous when you have a huge bank balance.
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Doug has got the award for services to charity, so congratulations to him.
It's easy to say that people can give away money when they're rich. But it's impossible to know how you'd act until you're actually loaded. And Doug has clearly done some decent work.
You can give all you like but it doesn't guarantee popularity. Bill Gates gives away everything - hated. Steve Jobs gives away nothing - loved. Poor old Bill should have made aluminium computers. Could have been so different...
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well done Doug.
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He will never be 'Sir' Herbert to me. Good luck to him he will soon be looking forward to another life.
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Just remember how many people work with Aston Villa as long as he did so basically he done well apart from his treatment with Tony Barton and European Cup history. He have done lot of good though. But it is easy to be generous when you have a huge bank balance.
People do forget that, even if you take out the League/EC winning period, under Doug Villa had their most consistently successful period since the 1800's. So what if he made some money out of the Club. He is a businessman. But back to topic, congrat's Doug you old bugger.
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The best thing is that there will be a little media interest in the Villa for 12 hours ("Doug who?") and the Cameron/Bendall link will pop up again and then we can lay back down as Chelsea beat us an normal service is resumed...
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It seems that it is diddy Dave Cameron's links to the club that have got him this honour rather than anything else.
But hey, if an outdated institution wants to give an outdated institutional award to a man, who is an institution in his own household, then so be it.
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It seems that it is diddy Dave Cameron's links to the club that have got him this honour rather than anything else.
But hey, if an outdated institution wants to give an outdated institutional award to a man, who is an institution in his own household, then so be it.
How have you worked that out? Like it or not Ellis does bucket loads of work for charity and has been awarded for it. Why be so bitter about it?
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He's an 88 year old man who is widely acknowledged for charity work. I believe he helped raise 6m for Little Aston Hospital. So I don't begrudge him some late life recognition if it makes him happy.
I had to laugh at the Central News report earlier where he has already asked to be addressed as Sir Doug. He is very humble.
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It's true then. I thought I might have dreamt it when I heard the news late last night. Full credit for the charity work, not so much credit when it comes to the Witton Lane stand and even less credit when it comes to the treatment of Tony Barton. But then no-one said you have to be perfect to get a knighthood.
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Just received this:
So Doug the Unstable finally bought a knighthood - services to pulling European champions apart, raping Aston Villa of money and not giving a fuck about anyone but himself. With a fair wind 2012 will be the year that the old ****** finally dies a long, painful and horrid death, ******. The Queens honours list is enough of a joke now it's just an absolute disgrace.
Charming.
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Who wrote that piece of filth?
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Someone called Brian Berry. No idea who he is.
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He's an 88 year old man who is widely acknowledged for charity work. I believe he helped raise 6m for Little Aston Hospital. So I don't begrudge him some late life recognition if it makes him happy.
I had to laugh at the Central News report earlier where he has already asked to be addressed as Sir Doug. He is very humble.
I'd imagine he gave far move of his time than money to raising charity funds. There are plenty of wonderful people out there that do the same. All should be commended for their efforts. Yes there is a political link with this knighthood, yes Doug Ellis has the media contacts to raise his profile but in the end it's generally a thankless task and anybody that receives any type of award for charity work probably deserves it.
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In my view rich people are morally obligated to give generously to charities.
Those who don't are basically scum, those who do are doing the right thing and they know it, but there's no way they should be rewarded for it in this way, for the simple reason that wealth should not be able to buy gongs.
Certainly I can't think of a rich person who has cared so much about charity that they were prepared to compromise their gilded 5 star life style.
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In my view rich people are morally obligated to give generously to charities.
Those who don't are basically scum, those who do are doing the right thing and they know it, but there's no way they should be rewarded for it in this way, for the simple reason that wealth should not be able to buy gongs.
Certainly I can't think of a rich person who has cared so much about charity that they were prepared to compromise their gilded 5 star life style.
I spoke to somebody who works in a fairly senior position for an adult literacy charity a while a go and she says things like this do wonders for their fund raising. The award shows other wealthy people that their efforts will be recognised.
You might not like it but I'm sure the people who benefit do.
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Doug made the majority of his wealth out of being the chairman and main share holder of Aston Villa. If it weren't for the club he wouldn't have had the wealth to give to charity. Aston Villa is the reason he has been knighted. I hope he's grateful.
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It was interesting to read Doug talking about how he accepted 62m from Lerner when there were other, higher offers - he suggested one was 115m.
Regardless of whether or not he chose the right buyer, at that point in time, surely Doug must have had some legal obligation to secure the best deal he could for the shareholders?
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In my view rich people are morally obligated to give generously to charities.
Those who don't are basically scum, those who do are doing the right thing and they know it, but there's no way they should be rewarded for it in this way, for the simple reason that wealth should not be able to buy gongs.
Certainly I can't think of a rich person who has cared so much about charity that they were prepared to compromise their gilded 5 star life style.
I spoke to somebody who works in a fairly senior position for an adult literacy charity a while a go and she says things like this do wonders for their fund raising. The award shows other wealthy people that their efforts will be recognised.
You might not like it but I'm sure the people who benefit do.
Fair enough I see your point, but that's still a sad indictment of what actually motivates wealthy people in this regard.
Also it is grossly unfair that the wealthy can give a very small proportion of their immense annual income to charity and claim huge recognition whereas the average Joe could give away half his income and no one would notice.
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In my view rich people are morally obligated to give generously to charities.
Those who don't are basically scum, those who do are doing the right thing and they know it, but there's no way they should be rewarded for it in this way, for the simple reason that wealth should not be able to buy gongs.
Certainly I can't think of a rich person who has cared so much about charity that they were prepared to compromise their gilded 5 star life style.
I spoke to somebody who works in a fairly senior position for an adult literacy charity a while a go and she says things like this do wonders for their fund raising. The award shows other wealthy people that their efforts will be recognised.
You might not like it but I'm sure the people who benefit do.
Fair enough I see your point, but that's still a sad indictment of what actually motivates wealthy people in this regard.
If a piece of machinery funded by a wealthy person for a hospital saved your life or one of your family's, would you give a toss why they'd funded it or just be grateful that they had?
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Someone called Brian Berry. No idea who he is.
I do.
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I think today is a very appropriate day to post this piece of youtube brilliance.
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It's the look on Doug's face that makes it such a classic. I don't think i'll ever tire of watching that video.
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I think today is a very appropriate day to post this piece of youtube brilliance.
Love it.
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I think today is a very appropriate day to post this piece of youtube brilliance.
Outstanding sir. I bet the win coupled with his new social status, Doug's grin is wider than the stand bearing his name.
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If a piece of machinery funded by a wealthy person for a hospital saved your life or one of your family's, would you give a toss why they'd funded it or just be grateful that they had?
I'd be extremely grateful of course and would not be interested in their motives, but I wouldn't think they should be knighted.
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The best thing is that there will be a little media interest in the Villa for 12 hours ("Doug who?") and the Cameron/Bendall link will pop up again and then we can lay back down as Chelsea beat us an normal service is resumed...
Would you care to rewrite that last bit? ;D
And well done to Herbert for his knighthood for service to charity. If it had been to do with football I wouldn't have been so 'charitable'.
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Congratulations to Sir Douglas on his knighthood.
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I must live in a cave, because I was totally unaware of his services to charity, I mean I know most rich blokes do a bit, but didn't know he was up there with the Bothams of this world
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I must live in a cave, because I was totally unaware of his services to charity, I mean I know most rich blokes do a bit, but didn't know he was up there with the Bothams of this world
It was the 1992-93 "Come down the Villa and we'll give the hospital beds" campaign that swung it for him.
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A bed for every 1K above 30K wasn't it?
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I must live in a cave, because I was totally unaware of his services to charity, I mean I know most rich blokes do a bit, but didn't know he was up there with the Bothams of this world
Okay so he doesn't walk the length and breadth of Britain at aged 88, but as mentioned above, he does give a huge amount of his money to a lot of grateful charities. Over the years a lot of Midlands charities have benefited, let's not be ungracious eh?
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It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of an needle than for a rich man etc etc... I paraphrase.
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Three more major Tory donors were rewarded in the New Year honours list, it emerged yesterday, as the political row over the ‘devalued’ system intensified.
Doug Ellis, James Wates and James Lupton received a knighthood and two CBEs respectively, for charitable and philanthropic work. They have given £370,000 to the Tory Party between them.
Mr Ellis, who made his fortune in the package holiday business, gave £90,000 to the Tories in the run-up to the last election. He was knighted for services to charity.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2080906/Cameron-faces-New-Year-honours-row-Conservative-donors-given-awards.html#ixzz1iGEMSQ6e
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If the above report it true, it's more than fair to say Doug bought his knighthood.
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So the other two characters give 175k and 105k respectively and only cop for a CBE, Doug bungs in 90k and bags a knighthood.
Class pennypinching by Herbert if you ask me. He hasn't lost his touch.
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Cash for honours? Perish the thought.
If HDE's only just started 'donating' I bet he doesn't have any pictures of the last successful Conservative 'team' in his office!
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If he has a spare 90k to go and get what he believes he wants, who are we to begrudge him.
People who think this has not gone on, and all political parties are not involved, are those that wait for the Tooth fairy, Easter Bunny and Father Christmas.
Arise Sir Deadly and good luck to you.
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Well done, Doug, you're one of my favourite millionaires.
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Congratulations Doug, that's all.
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So the other two characters give 175k and 105k respectively and only cop for a CBE, Doug bungs in 90k and bags a knighthood.
Class pennypinching by Herbert if you ask me. He hasn't lost his touch.
Superb, the master businessman strikes again.
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If he has a spare 90k to go and get what he believes he wants, who are we to begrudge him.
People who think this has not gone on, and all political parties are not involved, are those that wait for the Tooth fairy, Easter Bunny and Father Christmas.
Arise Sir Deadly and good luck to you.
Doesn't make it right though or that it or other forms of buying favors should be tolerated.
With regard for Ellis, the only thing I have in common with him is that my love for the Villa comes second in life, only to my family. Doug's first love is himself and I believe his love of the Villa has only ever been a mechanism to promote the former.
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I must live in a cave, because I was totally unaware of his services to charity, I mean I know most rich blokes do a bit, but didn't know he was up there with the Bothams of this world
To be fair, he does a lot, and always has.
Every year he writes a cheque to help keep a local boys football team going in Sutton Coldfield, amongst many other charities he supports.
Yes I know he can afford it, and he has the time. But I also regularly see him being driven to aways that many "regulars" give a swerve.
I know of many who deserve a knighthood less.
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I must live in a cave, because I was totally unaware of his services to charity, I mean I know most rich blokes do a bit, but didn't know he was up there with the Bothams of this world
To be fair, he does a lot, and always has.
Every year he writes a cheque to help keep a local boys football team going in Sutton Coldfield, amongst many other charities he supports.
Yes I know he can afford it, and he has the time. But I also regularly see him being driven to aways that many "regulars" give a swerve.
I know of many who deserve a knighthood less.
I dont doubt everything you say is true,
but i've never had a lot of time for Doug, and now i've found out he donated 90k to the Tories i've got even less,
i dont lie awake at night begrudging him though, frankly the Honours list always has been a bit of cronyism on all political sides, if i'm honest i dont think he or many many of others deserve there knighthoods
but like my Grandma used to say after going on about something for half an hour ' but i'm not going to let it bother me'
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Wonder if I slip less than 1% of my personal worth to the tories I can have a knighthood?
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Wonder if I slip less than 1% of my personal worth to the tories I can have a knighthood?
Probably even less in the unlikely event of Red Ed getting near No10.
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Doug looked well pissed off. This wasn't the way it was meant to be to help celebrate his knighthood at Villa Park.
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Or his birthday tomorrow.
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I always got the impression that HDE was only ever interested in HDE. I'm still not sure whether I've been proved wrong or not.
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I always got the impression that HDE was only ever interested in HDE. I'm still not sure whether I've been proved wrong or not.
I think you are right, JS.
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Yes I know he can afford it, and he has the time. But I also regularly see him being driven to aways that many "regulars" give a swerve.
I know of many who deserve a knighthood less.
It's attending home games that warrant a knighthood. We haven't done too badly on the road.