Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2011, 10:43:24 AM
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Fun and laughter all the way...
http://www.thebirminghampress.com/2011/11/22/back-to-the-future/
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Not much to argue with there, I looked at the team last night and couldn't be bothered to get dressed and go down the pub to watch it. A malaise has set in amongst most of the supporters I know which will be difficult to shake off.
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I was just angry last night. I can take losing. What I can't take is going into the game with a team selection hoping to avoid a battering and pretty much getting one. If there is one sure fire way AM is going to turn those who have somewhat of a balanced view of his appointment and the current affairs at the club against him, it's by doing this kind of shit. We are all very passionate about the club, and a lot of loyal fans spent hard earned cash to go watch the team last night. None of us, whether there or not deserved that. All I am asking is that we put out a team that goes out to win every single game. If we fall short on oc
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How long has Paul Faulkner been day to day charge of the club? About 18 months I reckon.
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Good article Dave.
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Spot on - seems Faulkner is a part of the problem. It's his job to ensure we look and act professional as a club on the whole
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Faulkner seems as suspicious of the media as Randy is, you'd think part of his brief would be to cultivate decent links with the local and national football journalists. You hardly hear a peep from him.
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anyone with any common sense can see that Paul Faulkner is arguably part of the problem. I said it on here before - he is a Jez Moxey light.
It is a real shame what is happening down the Villa, but on the bright side of things we are in the top half of the table.
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but on the bright side of things we are in the top half of the table.
There's a lot of similar feeling running in a number of threads right now, and the posters are making some very valid points, but that important fact does seem to have been forgotten. I guess it's because the results have been better than the performances.
I'm pretty confident that relegation is not a real danger for us, although we'll be closer to it than the European places. And given our cost cutting that's probably where we should be.
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but on the bright side of things we are in the top half of the table.
There's a lot of similar feeling running in a number of threads right now, and the posters are making some very valid points, but that important fact does seem to have been forgotten. I guess it's because the results have been better than the performances.
I'm pretty sure we'll be bottom 6/ 8 come January 1st
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but on the bright side of things we are in the top half of the table.
There's a lot of similar feeling running in a number of threads right now, and the posters are making some very valid points, but that important fact does seem to have been forgotten. I guess it's because the results have been better than the performances.
I'm pretty sure we'll be bottom 6/ 8 come January 1st
And if the season ended on the Jan 1st, that would be a concern.
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but on the bright side of things we are in the top half of the table.
There's a lot of similar feeling running in a number of threads right now, and the posters are making some very valid points, but that important fact does seem to have been forgotten. I guess it's because the results have been better than the performances.
I'm pretty sure we'll be bottom 6/ 8 come January 1st
And if the season ended on the Jan 1st, that would be a concern.
I honestly think Bent will be off in January and he's the only thing that kept us up last season
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but on the bright side of things we are in the top half of the table.
There's a lot of similar feeling running in a number of threads right now, and the posters are making some very valid points, but that important fact does seem to have been forgotten. I guess it's because the results have been better than the performances.
I'm pretty sure we'll be bottom 6/ 8 come January 1st
And if the season ended on the Jan 1st, that would be a concern.
Not as big a concern as where we could have dropped to by may!
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Its the what might have been that gets to you as well.
Just look at the players that have played recently for England and see where Villa may have been...
Downing
Young
Milner
Barry
Walker
Bent
Gabby [should have played]
The spine of the team have all played very recently for us, and had we the drive and the ambition we could have kept many of them and been in a much better place
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We are heading into a difficult run of games with a manager who has shown his inability to pick a team, or change a team to be capable of beating a top 6 team. Said manager has also not been competent enough to avoid relegation twice previously from this division. A chairman who has good intentions but is clearly being badly advised, a chief exec who has no football experience, a reputation for selling our best players and a divided dwindling fan base. Villa are on a downward path, and where it will end is not in the top half of table, so sorry for not sharing your positivity. Villa 'til I die and all that but this is really quite depressing.
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Its the what might have been that gets to you as well.
Just look at the players that have played recently for England and see where Villa may have been...
Downing
Young
Milner
Barry
Walker
Bent
Gabby [should have played]
The spine of the team have all played very recently for us, and had we the drive and the ambition we could have kept many of them and been in a much better place
Don't forget..............dare I say it?.............the Bolton Defender!
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Its the what might have been that gets to you as well.
Just look at the players that have played recently for England and see where Villa may have been...
Downing
Young
Milner
Barry
Walker
Bent
Gabby [should have played]
The spine of the team have all played very recently for us, and had we the drive and the ambition we could have kept many of them and been in a much better place
Don't forget..............dare I say it?.............the Bolton Defender!
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Good article Dave. I thought the PR at the club is headed by MON's mate, Brian Doogan. It's all well and good blaming Faulkner for saying the wrong thing, the letter to season ticket holders comes to mind but it's the PR manager that should understand the letter stinks and will have a negative effect. It's the same with any company, if you allowed the CEO to say whatever he wanted, they'd be in trouble every day. That's why you have PR men, for their understanding of communication.
If you want to see a down turn over the last couple of years in the club's PR, look to the departure of Phil Mepham.
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One of your best articles Dave.
The more I think about it, the more I question Faulkner. Maybe he needs to be the fall guy. If he went and somebody really good came in, we'd at least start from a new base. We need a new narrative. The old one has run its course .
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I questioned the appointment of PF from day one.
There are a few on here changing their minds now.
It seems to me it's Randys biggest problem here and in the US.
He picks the wrong person.
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Good article there Dave. I'm still amazed by the Ferguson thing, though. Ferguson has always backed his former players and those he just gets on with to do well as managers. In that, I suppose he's a nice guy, as is McLeish, but he's also backed Bryan Robson repeatedly, Roy Keane and Steve Bruce among others, so maybe trusting his advice on people he likes isn't the best. However, like you say, it looks like he's desperate for Fergie's approval, which just shows such a lack of faith in his own decision making.
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Good article there Dave. I'm still amazed by the Ferguson thing, though. Ferguson has always backed his former players and those he just gets on with to do well as managers. In that, I suppose he's a nice guy, as is McLeish, but he's also backed Bryan Robson repeatedly, Roy Keane and Steve Bruce among others, so maybe trusting his advice on people he likes isn't the best. However, like you say, it looks like he's desperate for Fergie's approval, which just shows such a lack of faith in his own decision making.
You also have to remember that Ferguson owes everything to McLeish, who was his captain at Aberdeen. Without that success he wouldn't have got anywhere near Old Trafford.
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A good summary of the state of the club at the moment.
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Good article Dave. I thought the PR at the club is headed by MON's mate, Brian Doogan. It's all well and good blaming Faulkner for saying the wrong thing, the letter to season ticket holders comes to mind but it's the PR manager that should understand the letter stinks and will have a negative effect. It's the same with any company, if you allowed the CEO to say whatever he wanted, they'd be in trouble every day. That's why you have PR men, for their understanding of communication.
If you want to see a down turn over the last couple of years in the club's PR, look to the departure of Phil Mepham.
I was going to make a point about MON running PR through Doogan as well which I was surprised Dave seemed to miss in the article.
As for Mepham, IIRC, he was also being blamed for PR gaffes from the club at the time, although I suppose it was a harder job with Ellis being as quote happy as Lerner is press shy.
Anyway, no one is seeing the big picture. It all started going downhill when we lost that great man, Abdul Rashid. Get him back and everything will pick up again.
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Do you really believe this Ferguson backing bullsh1t? He isn't going to support anyone with any talent as they might end up competing with him. He backs losers and also rans in the ex player managerial support stakes to protect himself. He soon fell out with Hughes when he started doing well. A reccomendation from Fergie as a managerial appointment is the stamp of the mediocre.
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Maybe the letter Randy has got locked away says Alex should be his successor at Man U when he retires. If so it is written by a senile scrote or quite possibly priceless.
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A good summary of the state of the club at the moment.
Agreed, a good and more importantly fair article.
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You also have to remember that Ferguson owes everything to McLeish, who was his captain at Aberdeen. Without that success he wouldn't have got anywhere near Old Trafford.
Thanks Dave. That'll make me feel much better when we're 0-4 down at half time in a fortnight.
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"Something has gone wrong at Villa Park over the past 18 months that has nothing to do with football, and it needs to be sorted out quickly... "
Congratulations to Paul Faulkner on the 18 months and 2 weeks anniversary of his appointment as CEO.