Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on November 07, 2011, 10:23:57 AM
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From Auntie:
1017 BOXING: Aston Villa boss Alex McLeish reveals that he is selecting Emile Heskey, despite the striker suffering from an Achilles problem, because of his importance to the team. "The situation is such that we can't really play him for the full 90 minutes," said McLeish. "But he is effective in the team with the contribution he makes and the appreciation of his team-mates for him and what he gives is there to see."
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I thought he played well v Norwich.
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I'm sure JJ can take his place and give him a rest for say....19 months?
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Or till we can release him
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He needs to play up front, as a target man, it really is as simple as that. He did OK against Norwich, but he is a huge square peg in a very small Bannan type round hole.
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It's amazing the way every manager who ever has him will always love him and see a much better player than anybody else can.
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Why does everyone love him?
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Putting him in midfield is accommodating him. I'd prefer to see Bannan there to start with as he would give us much more creativity. If he's carrying an injury put him on the bench and give him 20 mins at the end if we need strength to shore up a midfield or strength to the attack if we're chasing a game.
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Man Utd put Wayne Rooney in midfield, we put Emile Heskey.
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BOXING??
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He needs to play up front, as a target man, it really is as simple as that. He did OK against Norwich, but he is a huge square peg in a very small Bannan type round hole.
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Hopefully this is Ivanhoes last season and by picking him every week we are not giving bannan, ireland, albrighton or Delph the game time they need to prove as to whether they are up to the job.
Short termism at it's very best.
Whilst Ivanhoe might do okay against a mediocre side like Norwich, see how well he does against Spuds
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
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I think AM's mandate is to 'get the most out of the squad', so with the wages he's on that means Emile is used if he can be. He's out of contract in the summer, so I'd expect him to fit in here and there until then.
People have said he had a good game against Norwich, and he did, but he's probably only an asset playing where he is in games we're on top in. When we're under the gosh and need extra legs tracking back, or someone with some dynamism to drive us through a rough period in game, then he's more hindrance than help.
With Jenas now fit, I hope and expect him to be reduced to a cameo role for the rest of the season.
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
Maybe he has something on the whole of football, some dodgy pics or some other blackmailable items that keep him in football.
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I think that if you were to forget the fact that he's Emile Heskey you'd think he shows a fair bit of promise in the midfield role.
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Putting him in midfield is accommodating him. I'd prefer to see Bannan there to start with as he would give us much more creativity. If he's carrying an injury put him on the bench and give him 20 mins at the end if we need strength to shore up a midfield or strength to the attack if we're chasing a game.
I think Bannans a great player, but, he couldn't have done what EH did on Saturday.
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
Guess you have to know something about football too!!
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BOXING??
Ivanhoe's nickname at Thieverpool was "Bruno".
I think he was named after the boxer as the homosexual Austrian fashion show host had yet to hit the big time.
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I think that if you were to forget the fact that he's Emile Heskey you'd think he shows a fair bit of promise in the midfield role.
Think you're right Withey.
Just like if it had been any other manager, or if he'd come from any other club, there wouldn't be half as many moans. It would be a case of 'Let him get on with it so he can sort out his best line up' I think it's coming together now as players are begining to gel together. It's not the finished article, but, it's getting there.
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I think that if you were to forget the fact that he's Emile Heskey you'd think he shows a fair bit of promise in the midfield role.
Bloody oath! I watched the game with a mate who's doesn't have a great deal of interest in watching the English game despite playing at a pretty good standard here in South Australia and he thought Heskey was excellent.
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Like I said see what heskey is like when we play Spuds against a highly mobile quick midfield.
Fuck me a half decent game against Norwich and all of a sudden he's Bobby Charlton
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
I asked a few behind the scenes at VP and the main reason is that he follows the managers instructions to the letter - you would be suprised how many dont!!
IN the cup game against Bolton Mc and the coaches were screaming at the Fonz to do certain things - he did not carry them out - he has not had a start since and only made the bench a few times
I think if you know as a manager you will get it in the neck for results then the very least you want is for the players to stick to your game plans - Heskey does this that is why either club or internationally he was always a favourite
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
I asked a few behind the scenes at VP and the main reason is that he follows the managers instructions to the letter - you would be suprised how many dont!!
IN the cup game against Bolton Mc and the coaches were screaming at the Fonz to do certain things - he did not carry them out - he has not had a start since and only made the bench a few times
I think if you know as a manager you will get it in the neck for results then the very least you want is for the players to stick to your game plans - Heskey does this that is why either club or internationally he was always a favourite
As a manager you can't ask any more than that from your players.
In this day and age when the majority of players think they're better than the club, manager and the fans and beyond reproach for their actions it's refreshing to see a player willing to do what's asked of him.
Even if it is Heskey.
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
I asked a few behind the scenes at VP and the main reason is that he follows the managers instructions to the letter - you would be suprised how many dont!!
IN the cup game against Bolton Mc and the coaches were screaming at the Fonz to do certain things - he did not carry them out - he has not had a start since and only made the bench a few times
I think if you know as a manager you will get it in the neck for results then the very least you want is for the players to stick to your game plans - Heskey does this that is why either club or internationally he was always a favourite
As a manager you can't ask any more than that from your players.
In this day and age when the majority of players think they're better than the club, manager and the fans and beyond reproach for their actions it's refreshing to see a player willing to do what's asked of him.
Even if it is Heskey.
Ah bless he does as he's told. Makes up for the fact he cannot tackle, score, pass etc.. I've heard it all now.
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I'm not a Heskey hater, but I'll be so glad when he finally leaves the club and we are done discussing him to death.
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You saying Greg knows nothing about football Nigel?
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
I asked a few behind the scenes at VP and the main reason is that he follows the managers instructions to the letter - you would be suprised how many dont!!
IN the cup game against Bolton Mc and the coaches were screaming at the Fonz to do certain things - he did not carry them out - he has not had a start since and only made the bench a few times
I think if you know as a manager you will get it in the neck for results then the very least you want is for the players to stick to your game plans - Heskey does this that is why either club or internationally he was always a favourite
As a manager you can't ask any more than that from your players.
In this day and age when the majority of players think they're better than the club, manager and the fans and beyond reproach for their actions it's refreshing to see a player willing to do what's asked of him.
Even if it is Heskey.
Ah bless he does as he's told. Makes up for the fact he cannot tackle, score, pass etc.. I've heard it all now.
I think you should look beyond your, obvious, dislike of Heskey, Greg.
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
I asked a few behind the scenes at VP and the main reason is that he follows the managers instructions to the letter - you would be suprised how many dont!!
IN the cup game against Bolton Mc and the coaches were screaming at the Fonz to do certain things - he did not carry them out - he has not had a start since and only made the bench a few times
I think if you know as a manager you will get it in the neck for results then the very least you want is for the players to stick to your game plans - Heskey does this that is why either club or internationally he was always a favourite
As a manager you can't ask any more than that from your players.
In this day and age when the majority of players think they're better than the club, manager and the fans and beyond reproach for their actions it's refreshing to see a player willing to do what's asked of him.
Even if it is Heskey.
Ah bless he does as he's told. Makes up for the fact he cannot tackle, score, pass etc.. I've heard it all now.
On MOTD after they had shown the highlights they did an analysis of our attacking threat. They showed 5 examples, most of them involved Heskey and 1 led to a goal and another was the Bent miss. But you're right, he can't pass blah de fucking blah.
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You saying Greg knows nothing about football Nigel?
To me? It would appear so, Phil.
I suppose now you're going to tell now 'Greg' is an assumed name for some top drawer manager :-)
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
I asked a few behind the scenes at VP and the main reason is that he follows the managers instructions to the letter - you would be suprised how many dont!!
IN the cup game against Bolton Mc and the coaches were screaming at the Fonz to do certain things - he did not carry them out - he has not had a start since and only made the bench a few times
I think if you know as a manager you will get it in the neck for results then the very least you want is for the players to stick to your game plans - Heskey does this that is why either club or internationally he was always a favourite
As a manager you can't ask any more than that from your players.
In this day and age when the majority of players think they're better than the club, manager and the fans and beyond reproach for their actions it's refreshing to see a player willing to do what's asked of him.
Even if it is Heskey.
Ah bless he does as he's told. Makes up for the fact he cannot tackle, score, pass etc.. I've heard it all now.
I think you should look beyond your, obvious, dislike of Heskey, Greg.
Nothing personal about the guy but I see his place in the team as extremely damaging and is preventing any long term progression. So you can see why it bothers me and will continue do so until he stops playing for us. I don't know a single fan who knows why he is in the team when we have other options.
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Why does everyone love him?
has he got a hot wife , who is easy ?
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I don't know a single fan who knows why he is in the team when we have other options.
Did you read the reply to your post which mentioned the MOTD analysis?
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You saying Greg knows nothing about football Nigel?
To me? It would appear so, Phil.
I suppose now you're going to tell now 'Greg' is an assumed name for some top drawer manager :-)
Yup, he's Martin O'Neill.
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Remember a year ago Houllier was comparing Heskey to Drogba?!
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
I asked a few behind the scenes at VP and the main reason is that he follows the managers instructions to the letter - you would be suprised how many dont!!
IN the cup game against Bolton Mc and the coaches were screaming at the Fonz to do certain things - he did not carry them out - he has not had a start since and only made the bench a few times
I think if you know as a manager you will get it in the neck for results then the very least you want is for the players to stick to your game plans - Heskey does this that is why either club or internationally he was always a favourite
Why don't they instruct him to score goals? Just a thought like.
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Will never understand why he automatically becomes the manager's golden boy. He doesn't score, create chances or assists, he can't tackle, pass, has no pace. Really i'm struggling to see anything there. Guess you have to be a manager.
I asked a few behind the scenes at VP and the main reason is that he follows the managers instructions to the letter - you would be suprised how many dont!!
IN the cup game against Bolton Mc and the coaches were screaming at the Fonz to do certain things - he did not carry them out - he has not had a start since and only made the bench a few times
I think if you know as a manager you will get it in the neck for results then the very least you want is for the players to stick to your game plans - Heskey does this that is why either club or internationally he was always a favourite
Why don't they instruct him to score goals? Just a thought like.
;D
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You saying Greg knows nothing about football Nigel?
To me? It would appear so, Phil.
I suppose now you're going to tell now 'Greg' is an assumed name for some top drawer manager :-)
Thats fair enough. I wouldn't assume to know more than the last three villa managers who've all picked him regularly. After all whatever you think of their abilities or success for Villa they all have won stuff so they much know something. Personally even though i thought it was complete hatstand for MON to buy him as the man to score and create the goals to shoot us into the CL, I did think he offered something to the team before he actually played for us. Unfortunately he was nothing short of shocking under MON's tenure. Houllier got a bit more out of him to be fair, and AM seems to be following the well worn path of playing him come what may, even injured. I suppose the litmus test is do you consider 9 goals in 73 games a reasonable return for a premiership striker? And if you don't, do you think its worth keeping him in the team for the 1 assist he managed last season, and the zero he's managed this season?
I don't.