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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: eamonn on November 03, 2011, 02:12:54 AM

Title: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: eamonn on November 03, 2011, 02:12:54 AM
I got an email from the club today with a discount offer for purchases from the new catalogue. I had a look on the online shop to see if they had added any new lines to the retro wear which is probably the most interesting merchandise they sell as well as being less fallible to fashion.

I was quite surprised to find that the 1992/93 shirt (itself a homage to our 19th century all conquering teams) has been reissued (erroneously labelled as '1990', while the item description boasts the, er, achievement of ''Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United being beaten at Villa Park as Aston Villa finish Runners Up in the inaugural Premier League season''. The 1994 Coca Cola Cup victory wearing, Muller-emblazoned effort is also on sale.

http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/product_browse.aspx?cid=5703

Is there something not a little sad about seeing these shirts entering ''glory years'' status and being sold alongside the 1980-82 retro gear (a period which you could argue is at least genuinely worth marking)? Not to mention that a lot of us still have the original shirts from the 90's. I can still fit into my old 93/94 shirt.

Or maybe even sadder is the fact that the Villa's marketing people will struggle to come up with more recent successful shirts to commemorate in the future. The '96 League Cup one presumably will follow before all they're left with is whether that much loved Intertoto Cup (joint) win should be celebrated.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 03, 2011, 05:27:53 AM
I got an email from the club today with a discount offer for purchases from the new catalogue. I had a look on the online shop to see if they had added any new lines to the retro wear which is probably the most interesting merchandise they sell as well as being less fallible to fashion.

I was quite surprised to find that the 1992/93 shirt (itself a homage to our 19th century all conquering teams) has been reissued (erroneously labelled as '1990', while the item description boasts the, er, achievement of ''Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United being beaten at Villa Park as Aston Villa finish Runners Up in the inaugural Premier League season''. The 1994 Coca Cola Cup victory wearing, Muller-emblazoned effort is also on sale.

http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/product_browse.aspx?cid=5703

Is there something not a little sad about seeing these shirts entering ''glory years'' status and being sold alongside the 1980-82 retro gear (a period which you could argue is at least genuinely worth marking)? Not to mention that a lot of us still have the original shirts from the 90's. I can still fit into my old 93/94 shirt.

Or maybe even sadder is the fact that the Villa's marketing people will struggle to come up with more recent successful shirts to commemorate in the future. The '96 League Cup one presumably will follow before all they're left with is whether that much loved Intertoto Cup (joint) win should be celebrated.

it doesnt look right without the sponsor.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 03, 2011, 08:12:39 AM
The 92/93 pack reminds me of Earl Barrett. The 93/94 shirt reminds me of Dean Saunders.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Archie on November 03, 2011, 10:07:25 AM
The shade of claret of this retro 1992-93 shirt is much better (darker) than the actual 1992-93 that was too light.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: sidcowans10 on November 03, 2011, 10:17:34 AM
Deano your spot on it looks naff without the sponsor on it. Luckily I still have my original and it still fits !!
I wonder why they haven't had the sponsor on that one ( still mita wasn't it ?) but they have on the 94 shirt ?
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: darren woolley on November 03, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
I also agree it just don't seem right without the sponsors on it would've been better with a sponsor on.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Rich6by7 on November 03, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
I suspect the absence of a sponsor logo on the 92/3 shirt is due to Mita being bought by Kyocera. Müller are still going, of course- I wonder how much they've paid the club for further advertising potential?
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Pete3206 on November 03, 2011, 12:21:43 PM
That 1971 cup final shirt is ace.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 03, 2011, 01:21:09 PM

Or maybe even sadder is the fact that the Villa's marketing people will struggle to come up with more recent successful shirts to commemorate in the future. The '96 League Cup one presumably will follow before all they're left with is whether that much loved Intertoto Cup (joint) win should be celebrated.

There'll be the "stinking out Wembley" shirt from 2000 and the "blowing Champion's League qualification" vintage from 2009. Maybe this season will be the "endless draws" one.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Ger Regan on November 03, 2011, 02:03:15 PM
I also agree it just don't seem right without the sponsors on it would've been better with a sponsor on.
Yeah I agree, should have the sponsor on.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: London Villan on November 03, 2011, 02:19:21 PM
I'm guessing there wouldn't be any copyright issues with Mita as they (like many of our sponsors) no longer exist!
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: gervilla on November 03, 2011, 08:19:46 PM
I still have both originals and still fit into them so for once I think I can pass on these retro offerings.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Risso on November 03, 2011, 08:23:19 PM
I also agree it just don't seem right without the sponsors on it would've been better with a sponsor on.
Yeah I agree, should have the sponsor on.

The Muller one didn't have a sponsor when we first launched it.  They had to iron them on afterwards, and they looked shite.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 03, 2011, 08:27:37 PM
I'll be wearing my original laces shirt on Saturday. It is the new designated 'lucky shirt'. Bought for me by my then girlfriend, who turned out to be a hell queen. At least I got the shirt out of her though, and she had nice ...!
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: ChrissyPrice on November 03, 2011, 09:05:32 PM
Nothing at all to do with Villa but for a sad (desperate?)description you can't beat "Coventry University. The best new university in the Midlands." which I rather oddly saw on the tube today.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Stu on November 04, 2011, 12:33:14 AM
Where's all the long sleeved tops?
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: The Left Side on November 04, 2011, 01:08:44 AM
Anyone see Trabzonspor's kit last night, they pinched our colours and it is made by nike but it isn't too bad, a bit like our 2000 FA cup final effort!
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: willywombat on November 04, 2011, 05:44:36 AM
I'm probably on my own here but I think both of those shirts are a bit naff as I did at the time
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 04, 2011, 08:24:04 AM
I always liked the no collar and laces effort under BFR.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Macho Man Randy Savage on November 04, 2011, 10:00:27 AM
I agree that the kits do look quite tacky in comparison to the older retro kits.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 04, 2011, 10:18:41 AM
Bring this back please. (the kit that is)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UicgYwyB2Bw/Sd-Ms-zlqVI/AAAAAAAAC0A/ELuDW7x2tEo/s400/kit09.jpg)
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: UsualSuspect on November 04, 2011, 10:27:36 AM
I'm probably on my own here but I think both of those shirts are a bit naff as I did at the time

Me too Willy

Would like to see to old yellow 69-73s away kit released again or say the away kit for 67-69
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Dave Clark Five on November 04, 2011, 11:49:01 AM
Would like to see to old yellow 69-73s away kit released again or say the away kit for 67-69

That would be magic.

By the way, everything in the Souvenir Shop is 20% off on Saturday.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Small Rodent on November 04, 2011, 03:36:14 PM
I'm sure my 80/81 Champions white away shirt had piping (Umbro symbol) on the sleeves.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: gervilla on November 04, 2011, 09:03:29 PM
I'm probably on my own here but I think both of those shirts are a bit naff as I did at the time

Me too Willy

Would like to see to old yellow 69-73s away kit released again or say the away kit for 67-69

The retro version was released at some stage because i bought one off e-bay a year or so ago. It's class.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: willywombat on November 04, 2011, 09:11:29 PM
I'm probably on my own here but I think both of those shirts are a bit naff as I did at the time

Me too Willy

Would like to see to old yellow 69-73s away kit released again or say the away kit for 67-69

First kit I ever had.I saved up my dinner money and bought it off a kid at school. It was 2 sizes too small for me but I didn't care!
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Irish villain on November 05, 2011, 12:06:26 AM
Once again my stupid bank don't release the stupid funds for a purchase in the UK. Stupid bloody bank. Happened me last week when I tried to donate to H & V too.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: TopDeck113 on November 05, 2011, 08:23:57 AM
I'm probably on my own here but I think both of those shirts are a bit naff as I did at the time

I quite liked the lace-up at the time, but the Asics stripped one was awful.  Mind you, it didn't stop me buying it at the time.  It was the last replica shirt I bought and wore match-in, match out (I did though get the Wembley 2000 version of the next stripped offering and wore it on Cup Final day and never again since).  The great thing about my original was that I got it in the interregnum between the Mita and Muller sponsorship deals and so it could be worn without looking like an advertising hoarding.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 05, 2011, 10:56:05 AM
I can`t help thinking the lace shirt would look better with a handle-bar moustache and brilliantined hair.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: Des Little on November 06, 2011, 11:15:26 AM
Why reproduce the Asics one?  eBay is awash with original versions of them.  Why not do DECENT repro's of the shirts we wore between 83-87?
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: gervilla on November 06, 2011, 12:34:31 PM
Why reproduce the Asics one?  eBay is awash with original versions of them.  Why not do DECENT repro's of the shirts we wore between 83-87?

Good call.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 06, 2011, 12:47:38 PM
Why reproduce the Asics one?  eBay is awash with original versions of them.  Why not do DECENT repro's of the shirts we wore between 83-87?

Probably because the clubs make no money from the ones on ebay.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: eamonn on November 06, 2011, 12:54:41 PM
Plus, they're unlikely to reproduce shirts of when we were shit. The ''glory days'' angle is the whole raison d'etre of the retro shirts.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 06, 2011, 01:00:06 PM
Maybe they could do a 25th anniversary of relegation retro shirt.
Title: Re: New Villa Retro Shirts - Nostalgia Aint What It Used To Be
Post by: wookster on November 06, 2011, 08:13:49 PM
I can`t help thinking the lace shirt would look better with a handle-bar moustache and brilliantined hair.

Just get a picture of Shaun Teale then
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