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Title: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Holte End Stylist on October 23, 2011, 04:06:14 PM
After that game i've kinda cheered up  :)
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: myf on October 23, 2011, 04:07:38 PM
Indeed.  That must smart for the gloryhunting reds.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: barrysleftfoot on October 23, 2011, 04:10:48 PM


   Loved fanzone, a Manc Citeeeeeh fan, the Ure fan from...........down south where else
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Deano's Mullet on October 23, 2011, 04:15:09 PM
From a Man U bashing point of view its great, in terms of modern football and Villa i still feel cold.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Stu on October 23, 2011, 04:16:26 PM
What really warms me up inside is the thought of all the gloryhunters and tourists having their day out ruined. Perhaps they'll grow up a bit and watch their local side instead, the sad bastards.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: VillaAlways on October 23, 2011, 04:20:45 PM
Shame.Still they can always switch their support to Man City once they start winning everything
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: timeoutbigbar on October 23, 2011, 04:21:55 PM
Between that game and Norwich's great performance yesterday i've been cheered up a fair bit.  I don't like Man City, but Man United have been arrogant c*nts for far too long, and I really enjoyed seeing the faces in the crowd at the end.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 23, 2011, 04:26:40 PM
I understand there's an internet campaign to get United to refund their supporters' travel costs.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Holte End Stylist on October 23, 2011, 04:27:34 PM
From a Man U bashing point of view its great, in terms of modern football and Villa i still feel cold.
not really man utd bashing it just made smile after fergies noisy neighbours comments

as an aside i'm just glad we ain't got manure next
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Stu on October 23, 2011, 04:29:52 PM
I understand there's an internet campaign to get United to refund their supporters' travel costs.

Nooo, they need to be punished!
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Legion on October 23, 2011, 04:31:23 PM
I understand there's an internet campaign to get United to refund their supporters' travel costs.

That'll cost a bloody fortune.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 23, 2011, 04:48:42 PM
I understand there's an internet campaign to get United to refund their supporters' travel costs.

That'll cost a bloody fortune.

Return rail fare London -        Manchester £40 x 30,000     1,200,000
                        Birmingham-   Manchester £30 x10,000        300,000
                        Devon-           Manchester  £50 x 10,000       500,000
                        South Coast- Manchester  £40 x 10,000        400,000
                        South wales- Manchester  £40 x 10,000        400,000
Rail and Ferry Belfast-            Manchester  £100 x 5,000        500,000
Wags Limousines Cheshire - Old Trafford  £1000 x 20              20,000
                                                                                           __________

                                                                                            £3,320,000
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Vanilla on October 23, 2011, 04:54:01 PM
Also, Young seems to be found wanting at the moment.

That said, Milner seemed to have a decent stint today.

Swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Ad@m on October 23, 2011, 05:03:35 PM
Also, Young seems to be found wanting at the moment.

That said, Milner seemed to have a decent stint today.

Swings and roundabouts.

It was entertaining to watch Milner stroll through unchallenged to set up one of Man City's goals while his marker, Young, stood still watching him.

Sums up the difference between them.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Chipsticks on October 23, 2011, 05:08:37 PM
Pros:

- Man Ure suffered their worst defeat at 'The Theatre of Dreams' since 1955
- Young had a poor, poor game
- Milner had a great game (good for him)
- 70,000 tourists and arrogant wankers saw their team lose 6-1 at home
- It makes our 4-1 away loss seem a lot better

Cons

- The idea of 'buying the league' seems to be working
- Man Shitty won
- Barry had a decent game
- I still feel bitter about yesterdays game
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: richard moore on October 23, 2011, 05:25:39 PM
Always said I would get as much pleasure from others' misfortunes this season as I would from anything the Villa did

And so it is proving to be the case....Chelsea's two red cards today being the cherry on the cake!
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: john e on October 23, 2011, 05:26:49 PM
Pros:

- Man Ure suffered their worst defeat at 'The Theatre of Dreams' since 1955
- Young had a poor, poor game
- Milner had a great game (good for him)
- 70,000 tourists and arrogant wankers saw their team lose 6-1 at home
- It makes our 4-1 away loss seem a lot better

Cons

- The idea of 'buying the league' seems to be working
- Man Shitty won
- Barry had a decent game
- I still feel bitter about yesterdays game




 
i dont begrudge Barry one bit,
winning silverwear, champions league football, challenging for the league title suggests he made the right choice for his career after 10 years service at Villa, he put more in than Young, Millner and Downing put together.

i can remember games when he was the only player worth turning up to watch, certainly one of the best players we have had in the last 10 years or so
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Billy Walker on October 23, 2011, 05:33:24 PM
It's just a shame the opposition fans can't run on the pitch after a goal is scored  at Old Trafford.  Ah well.  I'm just thinking back and I don't think I can recall us losing by that scoreline at home in my twenty-five years of supporting Villa - it's something I'll tell the glory hunters I know.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Chipsticks on October 23, 2011, 05:36:48 PM
Pros:

- Man Ure suffered their worst defeat at 'The Theatre of Dreams' since 1955
- Young had a poor, poor game
- Milner had a great game (good for him)
- 70,000 tourists and arrogant wankers saw their team lose 6-1 at home
- It makes our 4-1 away loss seem a lot better

Cons

- The idea of 'buying the league' seems to be working
- Man Shitty won
- Barry had a decent game
- I still feel bitter about yesterdays game




 
i dont begrudge Barry one bit,
winning silverwear, champions league football, challenging for the league title suggests he made the right choice for his career after 10 years service at Villa, he put more in than Young, Millner and Downing put together.

i can remember games when he was the only player worth turning up to watch, certainly one of the best players we have had in the last 10 years or so

I know, I know, I completely agree with you, I just still feel bitter about the manner of his departure. Maybe it's because he was the first of the 4 to bugger off to bigger clubs, I know I'm a wanker about it, I just can't help it.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: john e on October 23, 2011, 05:41:37 PM
Pros:

- Man Ure suffered their worst defeat at 'The Theatre of Dreams' since 1955
- Young had a poor, poor game
- Milner had a great game (good for him)
- 70,000 tourists and arrogant wankers saw their team lose 6-1 at home
- It makes our 4-1 away loss seem a lot better

Cons

- The idea of 'buying the league' seems to be working
- Man Shitty won
- Barry had a decent game
- I still feel bitter about yesterdays game




 
i dont begrudge Barry one bit,
winning silverwear, champions league football, challenging for the league title suggests he made the right choice for his career after 10 years service at Villa, he put more in than Young, Millner and Downing put together.

i can remember games when he was the only player worth turning up to watch, certainly one of the best players we have had in the last 10 years or so

I know, I know, I completely agree with you, I just still feel bitter about the manner of his departure. Maybe it's because he was the first of the 4 to bugger off to bigger clubs, I know I'm a wanker about it, I just can't help it.


fair enough mate, you are with the majority on here
i always try stick up for him as he was one of my favourite players
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: dishy on October 23, 2011, 05:47:39 PM
" changing their red shirts to blue, they'll be changing their red shirts to blue, they're glory hunters, that's what they'll do"
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: The Man With A Stick on October 23, 2011, 06:02:39 PM
Citeh can win the lot for all I care, as we haven't got a chance of winning anything.  If it means the red pricks (both scouse & manc) and Chelsea rent boys throwing their dummies out of the pram, saying it's not fair, then it can only be a good thing.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Fergal on October 23, 2011, 06:34:26 PM
I understand there's an internet campaign to get United to refund their supporters' travel costs.
I bet the M6 is a river of tears and discarded manc scarves...
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Iago on October 23, 2011, 06:42:47 PM
City will become the new United.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Chipsticks on October 23, 2011, 07:28:00 PM
City will become the new United.

Not for a few decades yet, the thing that makes Man United the arrogant bastards they are is all the History they have. Same for Liverpool.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: TopDeck113 on October 23, 2011, 07:59:06 PM
Whatever Citeh go on to achieve on the back of Arab money, the one fact that they won't be able to erase is that they'be spent part of the Premier League era in the third tier of football.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: olaftab on October 23, 2011, 08:11:17 PM
Also, Young seems to be found wanting at the moment.

That said, Milner seemed to have a decent stint today.

Swings and roundabouts.

It was entertaining to watch Milner stroll through unchallenged to set up one of Man City's goals while his marker, Young, stood still watching him.

Sums up the difference between them.

There were two calls  to Alan Green within ten mins of the  606 kicking off from a Disgusted of Braintree and Astonished of Basingstoke complaining about their teams inept showing. They both mentioned Ash Young's ineffectiveness with words like  "that's how he was at Villa" and he is playing like "he is at Villa and not United".
I must say listening to that and the earlier Chelsea debacle I am hurting a little less about yesterday.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: darren woolley on October 23, 2011, 08:20:57 PM
It has also cheered my weekend up seeing United get thrashed in there own backyard.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: taylorsworkrate on October 23, 2011, 08:27:11 PM
Obviously the margin of victory is shocking, but i'm not suprised one bit that Citeh won comfortably.

The only good thing about moneybags Citeh buying the league is the reaction of pampered gloryhunters who believe they have the devine right to win everything.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: NeilH on October 23, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
City will become the new United.

Not for a few decades yet, the thing that makes Man United the arrogant bastards they are is all the History they have. Same for Liverpool.

Its true, blue is indeed the new red.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: London Villan on October 23, 2011, 08:34:39 PM
They'll soon get bored of winning every game by three or four goals...
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Lee on October 23, 2011, 08:37:40 PM
Obviously the margin of victory is shocking, but i'm not suprised one bit that Citeh won comfortably.

The only good thing about moneybags Citeh buying the league is the reaction of pampered gloryhunters who believe they have the devine right to win everything.

Hate what City are doing and indeed very jealous, but if it puts those bunch of Glory Hunting Fuckwits Noses out, then it's all good for me.

Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: lovejoy on October 23, 2011, 08:42:38 PM
Obviously the margin of victory is shocking, but i'm not suprised one bit that Citeh won comfortably.

The only good thing about moneybags Citeh buying the league is the reaction of pampered gloryhunters who believe they have the devine right to win everything.

Moneybags City winning the league as opposed to moneybags Man Utd or moneybags Chelsea?
I don't get this anti-Man City feeling that they've bought the league. How many of these teams are made up of home grown players? John Terry, Johnny Evans (and he's shit)...who else.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: taylorsworkrate on October 23, 2011, 08:50:17 PM
Obviously the margin of victory is shocking, but i'm not suprised one bit that Citeh won comfortably.

The only good thing about moneybags Citeh buying the league is the reaction of pampered gloryhunters who believe they have the devine right to win everything.

Moneybags City winning the league as opposed to moneybags Man Utd or moneybags Chelsea?
I don't get this anti-Man City feeling that they've bought the league. How many of these teams are made up of home grown players? John Terry, Johnny Evans (and he's shit)...who else.

I'm not anti City, they are just a symptom of modern football's illness.

You read far too much into my post, which was only really taking enjoyment at the Man U fans reaction
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: lovejoy on October 23, 2011, 08:53:50 PM
Obviously the margin of victory is shocking, but i'm not suprised one bit that Citeh won comfortably.

The only good thing about moneybags Citeh buying the league is the reaction of pampered gloryhunters who believe they have the devine right to win everything.

Moneybags City winning the league as opposed to moneybags Man Utd or moneybags Chelsea?
I don't get this anti-Man City feeling that they've bought the league. How many of these teams are made up of home grown players? John Terry, Johnny Evans (and he's shit)...who else.

I'm not anti City, they are just a symptom of modern football's illness.

You read far too much into my post, which was only really taking enjoyment at the Man U fans reaction

Sorry. I agree by the way - it has softened the blow from saturday's fiasco.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Ger Regan on October 23, 2011, 09:28:32 PM
i dont begrudge Barry one bit,
winning silverwear, champions league football, challenging for the league title suggests he made the right choice for his career after 10 years service at Villa, he put more in than Young, Millner and Downing put together.

i can remember games when he was the only player worth turning up to watch, certainly one of the best players we have had in the last 10 years or so
The 10 years service thing is bollocks, because if he had got his way, he would have been gone years before he actually ended up leaving. By my count he tried to leave 4 times. He was here that long by default rather than because he was some magnificent servant to the club.

EDIT: For the record, I'm not trying to deny that he was a good player for Villa (and at times probably our most important player), but for me that's a different argument to him being a good servant of the club.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: flybo on October 23, 2011, 10:34:13 PM
best motd in a long time
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Tony on October 23, 2011, 11:26:44 PM
Ah I can see where we went wrong yesterday, 10 men seems to mess you up, Chelsea with 9 looked bloody good, the ref should have sent Hutton off!

Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: greenwichvilla on October 24, 2011, 12:47:29 AM
 
I understand there's an internet campaign to get United to refund their supporters' travel costs.

That'll cost a bloody fortune.

Return rail fare London -        Manchester £40 x 30,000     1,200,000
                        Birmingham-   Manchester £30 x10,000        300,000
                        Devon-           Manchester  £50 x 10,000       500,000
                        South Coast- Manchester  £40 x 10,000        400,000
                        South wales- Manchester  £40 x 10,000        400,000
Rail and Ferry Belfast-            Manchester  £100 x 5,000        500,000
Wags Limousines Cheshire - Old Trafford  £1000 x 20              20,000
                                                                                           __________

                                                                                            £3,320,000

Coming home from work tonight (Northern Line from Kentish Town to London Bridge) I can confirm that by the amount of red shirts that boarded at Euston, your theory holds some weight.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: JUAN PABLO on October 24, 2011, 01:55:35 AM
Citeh can win the lot for all I care, as we haven't got a chance of winning anything.  If it means the red pricks (both scouse & manc) and Chelsea rent boys throwing their dummies out of the pram, saying it's not fair, then it can only be a good thing.

That's what I was thinking . I've gone off football in recent seasons , so we might as well let Man shitty win the league , fa cup  and Carling cup for the next 10 seasons ( not the chumps league ;) )    and then we can see how the f**ks of Chelsea and Manure feel about it , just  how us other clubs have been feeling in recent years .
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: The Left Side on October 24, 2011, 02:00:02 AM
Happy that manure lost so badly but sad at the state of footy!
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: kipeye on October 24, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
Have no fear-The Preeemiership will come up with a cunning plan, after all, we can't have just anybody winning can we?
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 24, 2011, 09:13:54 AM
Cheered me up no end.  Man City made them look very poor. Both Barry and Milner were very good.

I don't know how they see losing at home 1- 6 to your next door neighbours is classed as "doing what you want".
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 24, 2011, 10:59:12 AM
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

Loved the way the ground started to empty once they realised they would not get a referee inspired comeback - i think at 1-4

Fucking hate them with a passion - even today all the inquest is in what United did wrong rather than how good City actually were

Hope city win the bloody lot - then maybe something will be done about bottomless pit financing of the modern game
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: eastie on October 24, 2011, 11:13:08 AM
Agree , nice to see united get their just desserts after all this time and great for city fans after so many years of being ridiculed by their neighbours-good luck to city and i hope they win the lot, i just wish we had a rich arab instead of them.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: montague on October 24, 2011, 11:54:47 AM
After what their fans have endured for decades now who can begrudge them this.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: not3bad on October 24, 2011, 12:25:27 PM
i just wish we had a rich arab instead of them.

You wish we were a symptom of everything that's wrong with the modern game and not them?
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: glasses on October 24, 2011, 12:33:06 PM
For Man City this is an awesome result. Its a real 'look at us' result, that will resonate worldwide.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 24, 2011, 12:38:36 PM
I think Ash is out of his depth there.  I take no gratitude because I like him a lot, but he isn't in that league I don't think anyway.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Dave on October 24, 2011, 12:41:15 PM
I think Ash is out of his depth there.  I take no gratitude because I like him a lot, but he isn't in that league I don't think anyway.
Apart from being Man Utd's best player?

If he's out of his depth, then so are Rooney, Nani and the rest of the team from yesterday.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 24, 2011, 12:43:54 PM
The biggest difference that sets Man City above everybody else is the physical strength of their players. With the exception of David Silva, they're all built like brick shit houses.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: not3bad on October 24, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
I think Ash is out of his depth there.  I take no gratitude because I like him a lot, but he isn't in that league I don't think anyway.
Apart from being Man Utd's best player?

If he's out of his depth, then so are Rooney, Nani and the rest of the team from yesterday.

Agreed.  It's a bit harsh to blame a 6-1 defeat all on one player.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 24, 2011, 12:47:09 PM
I think Ash is out of his depth there.  I take no gratitude because I like him a lot, but he isn't in that league I don't think anyway.
Apart from being Man Utd's best player?

If he's out of his depth, then so are Rooney, Nani and the rest of the team from yesterday.

I think he's out of his depth - it's my opinion.  You have a different one. 
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Dave on October 24, 2011, 12:48:50 PM
Which is perfectly fine to hold that opinion, but people normally base opinions on things.

What grounds are there to say that Ashley Young (one of Man Utd's best three players this season) is out of his depth anymore than anyone else in the Man Utd team is?
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 24, 2011, 12:53:31 PM
I just happen to think he goes missing in really, really big games.  He started off like a house on fire for us, then faded before coming into his own again last season, partly to ensure he got his big move.  I like him, I am just trying to work out if he was a very big fish in our small pond, or the real deal.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Ads on October 24, 2011, 01:17:26 PM
The rise and fall of football clubs happens all the while.

It would be hilarious to see United cast down asunder their locals rivals pre-eminence.

The gulf if quality between the striking options and midfield options is huge. Its galling that City’s midfield is 2/3 of our previous, but I don’t care.

The result has exercised any ill feeling over City. I now don’t care if they buy the lot.

I’m not an anti-Man United person by any stretch. I don’t like any other club, but it would make me laugh to see all their gloryhunters wobbling, much in the same way as all the band-wagon jumpers with Leeds from way back when final got their just deserts for being gloryhunters.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: barrysleftfoot on October 24, 2011, 03:22:38 PM



   I watch a lot more Ure matches this season to see how "our ashley" is getting on.I'm not convinced he is a top quality player, that he fails to pick a cross/pass out, and yday he did nothing to dispel that belief/He started well but after 20 mins was'nt in the game.

  Have to say yday he was one of Ures better players though, far better than Rooney or Nani.Not quite up there with Silva though.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 24, 2011, 03:47:21 PM
The biggest difference that sets Man City above everybody else is the physical strength of their players. With the exception of David Silva, they're all built like brick shit houses.

I couldn't believe the size of Micah Richards yesterday

I've seen smaller branches of Tesco Express.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: ktvillan on October 24, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
With that haircut, Richards looks like the incredible hulk version of Balotelli, after someone has pissed him off.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 24, 2011, 04:53:50 PM
Young started very brightly for utd, now he's playing like he ended up playing for us, good in patches, missing for bigger patches.  He wasn't at it yesterday but that could be said of most their team.  Rooney looks like their biggest worry to me.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 24, 2011, 05:09:44 PM
I heard Noel Gallagher interviewed earlier today on radio 5.  A question was asked which went along the lines "Where do you think utd went wrong"?  To which he replied, "I think Fergie dropping Howard Webb to the bench had a big influence on the game".

Also,

It was pointed out to Gallagher who was waiting to pick up some 'Q' award that  his new album went to No1 this weekend. 

An overjoyed Gallagher said... "If Carlsberg did weekends....."
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 24, 2011, 05:15:26 PM
I heard Noel Gallagher interviewed earlier today on radio 5.  A question was asked which went along the lines "Where do you think utd went wrong"?  To which he replied, "I think Fergie dropping Howard Webb to the bench had a big influence on the game".

He even nicks his jokes from other people.
Title: Re: 0% villa.....after the manc derby i don't feel so bad
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 24, 2011, 05:22:34 PM
I heard Noel Gallagher interviewed earlier today on radio 5.  A question was asked which went along the lines "Where do you think utd went wrong"?  To which he replied, "I think Fergie dropping Howard Webb to the bench had a big influence on the game".

He even nicks his jokes from other people.

There was me thinking it was original and thinking what a wit.  Ah well.



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