Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Drummond on October 12, 2011, 05:50:41 PM
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*inspired by another thread.
Who would you support? or would you give up on football completely?
I've been tempted to give up on football completely in the last few years, I hate what the Premier and Champions Leagues have done to the game. However, having lived in Sheffield for a while, I'm tempted to go to Bramall Lane and watch Sheffield United more frequently and think they'd become my team.
I'm going for the Steel City Derby on Sunday. I may never post again........
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Thread thief!!!!
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Don't think I'd enjoy it if I didn't have the same kind of emotional dependency as I do on Villa. I've always liked Celtic and Barcelona, but I don't get upset if they lose, or ecstatic if they win.
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As mentioned on the other thread, Nottingham Forest for me.
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FC Aston Villa 1874, in whatever division they ended up starting in.
Failing that, maybe Tammurf or Kidder. Or I could relocate to wherever they are playing that particular season and support Clyde properly.
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I'd quit football and never miss it. I don't even like football now, it's only because of Villa I pay attention.
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I'd still watch football on the box but I couldn't support any other team, they're all shit and their fans are twats.
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Taking into account where I now live, 5 years ago or so I would have probably gone for Citeh, but very soon there won't be any room on that particular glory-hunting bandwagon.
So I think I'd start going to Bury with my mate Dominic.
As an aside, when I first moved up here 20 years ago, there is a bloke I vaguely know who moved from London at a similar time. When he did, he ditched Arsenal and started following Accrington Stanley, then playing in the NW Counties, simply because he like the name and the phoenix from the ashes history. He says he wouldn't have swapped the experience for all the trophies and the Champion's League.
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As mentioned on the other thread, Nottingham Forest for me.
We hate Nottingham Forest...
Always shit on the reds side of the Trent...
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I'd quit football and never miss it. I don't even like football now, it's only because of Villa I pay attention.
This.
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I'd be a fully fledged ground hopper.
Good Beer Guide tucked away in my Tesco Bag for Life and away I'd go.
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I would totes support Manchester, they have a pretty kit. Red for home, and light blue for away. Plus they seem to have the best players.
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FC Aston Villa 1874, in whatever division they ended up starting in.
This, then Kidderminster Harriers and/or Walsall, but truthfully my heart would not be in it. Villa always.
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I'd probably go and support Cheltenham Town, or had Villa never existed it would probably have been West Brom.
I only support Villa cause my Dad passed the addiction on really, it could have been any other club.
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Like most I would ditch the Prem and Championship.
I've always had a soft spot for Scunthorpe and Stenhousemuir up in Scotland.
The reason for this odd pair is when I first started following football properly some 43 years ago, age 9, this pair always finished bottom of the league and I felt sorry for them.
So I'd probably catch a few of their game a season.
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Thought long and hard on this!
If not Villa, then no one
I`d be a sad old git sitting in the pub on Saturday afternoons drinking real ale and grumbling about how the modern game is shite, players wages killing the game and no loyalty anymore and droning on about the good old days
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I'd quit football and never miss it. I don't even like football now, it's only because of Villa I pay attention.
Agreed. Me and a mate tried to be glory supporters for a week just for a laugh and I just couldn't bring myself to care. If Villa didn't exist, neither would football for me.
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Barcelona,Real Madrid,Man United,Man City,Celtic and Rangers...
All bases covered there.
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No Aston Villa = no football, I might watch the occasional match of the day but that's it. Could create a new club FC villa and make Beye clean the kits and boots
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No Aston Villa no football
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Mo
I'd quit football and never miss it. I don't even like football now, it's only because of Villa I pay attention.
This.
Mostly this.
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Worcester City. I reckon I'm not the only one who has got keener and keener on non-league in recent years.
Dr Um-be an Owl instead. A classier bunch.
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Living near Manchester probably Citeh or oldham
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As mentioned on the other thread, Nottingham Forest for me.
We hate Nottingham Forest...
Always shit on the reds side of the Trent...
I've just thought, I'd have to put up with that slightly camp east midlands accent they have over there if i went to any games. All that "duck" nonsense.
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My already seriously jaded interest would completely evaporate if The Villa didn't exist.
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Probably enjoying the bottom of the BlueSquare with Bath City.
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I'd go non league and watch the Solihull Moors.
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Couldn't possibly bring myself to cheer for Man Ure or Man Citeh despite them both being the closest geographically and no interest in the Premier League apart from the Villa
Glasgow Rangers would probably be my choice as always had a soft spot for them and Droylsden in the Blue Square North as they're round the corner from the mother in laws!
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A compete and welcome retreat from professional football.
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Cork City.
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FC Villa
Failing that I'd probably just do the 92. Visit every league football ground in the country. I'd be a geek about it to, rating them as I go along
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Wouldn't bother without the Villa.
Besides wouldn't want the cost or pain of having another clubs tattoo done!
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Cork City.
Probably the loudest fans in the Irish League.
Longford Town!
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Rangers. And I think my looking out for Forest's results may turn into more of a following them on a regular basis.
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I'd probs go to fulham a bit more, my most local club.
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AFC Wimbledon, just up the road, great support, next to my allotment and whose local pub is a strip club.
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No Villa means no football. I couldn't switch to another team, it would be an act of betrayal to all that is sacred, just and true.
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Family loyalty [or more honestly, preferring some distant relatives to others] would probably lead to me supporting Forest. Alan Green would probably hate taking their calls on 6-0-6 - they don't give a flying f*** about the premier league.
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I'd probably go to Wolves, lived here most my life and they don't have the complex about us that the other two have, actually been to a fair few Wolves matches over the years, always enjoy it more than Villa cus I have no emotional attachment.
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Assuming there was no Villa of any kind, even a fans set up then it would be Burnley because of the colours, or some shit side like Rochdale.
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I'd dance a merry jig at the shackles of oppression at the hands of bloody Villa being lifted.
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I'd still watch football on the box but I couldn't support any other team, they're all shit and their fans are twats.
That's me as well.
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Just ...imagine there is no Villa.... John Lennon could have written a song about this!
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Blues.
:P
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I'd quit football and never miss it. I don't even like football now, it's only because of Villa I pay attention.
That sums it up for me too. I'm a Villa supporter and always have been, it's part of my identity. That being said, I care less about the current team than I ever have and I sometimes feel the club that I love doesn't really exist anymore. Also as I'm now 10,000 miles away I'm over missing the matchday experience so it wouldn't be the end of the world for me.
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I'd shun football in this country and go foreign - AC Milan.
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I only love one club. But I must admit to a soft spot for Grimsby Town. In my previous life as a fully fledged tax payer I was based in Grimsby for many years and when I couldn't get to a Villa game and The Mariners were at home I'd go and watch them.
I enjoyed their glory days in the fourth division when they had a young upcoming manager called Lawrie McMennemy and a centre forward called Matt Tees.
Did you know that Grimsby Town have never played in Grimsby? Blundell Park is in Cleethorpes.
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What a daft question.
I'd still support the Villa of course - the legend would live on, and Aston would become the new Gracelands.
We'd be the biggest non-existant team of all time. "Who the F**k are Third Lanark, Melchester Rovers and Barnstoneworth Utd?"
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I'd quit football and never miss it. I don't even like football now, it's only because of Villa I pay attention.
THIS!
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Given Villa and McGregor represented the Big Bang of the football Universe it would obviously end if Villa ceased to exist.
As for other teams I, like Percy, have a soft spot for Celtic and Barca and would keep an eye for their results. The only other team I would attend regularly would be Fluminense assuming I'm back living in Rio. Their colours are a mixture of Villa's and Ireland's and the atmosphere at their big games is electric.
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Longford Town!
Ah, a trip to Strokestown Road (not often I have a valid reason to mention my hometown on H&V).
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...Stenhousemuir up in Scotland
My favourite Scottish club, i.e. I always look out for their results.
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I'd quit football and never miss it. I don't even like football now, it's only because of Villa I pay attention.
This for me, no interest in anyone else.
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To play devils advocate, one might say:
"I'd feel pretty much as I do now. We can't win anything of any real value without an Arab owner, Man City have made the game unplayable for the most part and our poor American "billionaire" owner has made it clear that we have no chance of ever getting close to competing. What's the point now anyway?"
However, I'd just give up on football, as has been said before, football is difficult enough to watch now as it is so without the Villa it'd be pointless.
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I'd give up footy, I 'hate' every other team anyway. I'd also leave the area and live somewhere else as well.Villa is the only thing that ties me to Brum these days.
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After the Villa have sadly gone, it would have to be Cambridge United they are my home town team. Come on the U's !!
UTV
The Doc
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Leyton Orient for me, as they're my 'local' team from where I was born.
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Cheltenham Town
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Worcester City. I reckon I'm not the only one who has got keener and keener on non-league in recent years.
After 1874 Aston Villa, It'd be Worcester City for me, too, I reckon. I've been down St George's Lane quite a few times and my brother now goes there more than he goes to Villa Park anyway, while my other, much younger, brother plays for the youth team.
Failing that, I suppose it would be my adopted home town of Pisa, although it would depend a lot on which team my son ended up following I expect. I already look out quite a bit for Roma, as that's who the father-in-law follows.
Having said all that, I wouldn't follow any of them with any real passion. How do you follow the great footballing love of your life? Anything else would be a let-down. Better off staying single at that point.
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I went to watch Ascot United on non-league day last year and I'd probably go more. I might be encouraged to try and play football more as well though I'm not very good.
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I'd spend the cash I currently spend on the Villa on a few weekends away in Europe each year, watching the top teams in great cities... Munich, Milan, Spain or even further afield like Moscow, Kiev etc...
I'd definitely not have another team though, unless it was the re-incarnation of AVFC.
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This is easy for me. League football would cease to exist for me and i'd return to my childhood days of travelling around following the historic Stourbridge Town.
Come on you glassboys!!!
btw, look how they are doing! can they make i8t 3 promotions in (i think )5 seasons.
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No one, I just wouldn't care if the Villa weren't around. I can totally see why those without an affiliation to a particular team dislike football so much.
By an large, the people who are involved within the game, players and administrators, have become wankers.
i'd just get more into watching the Rugby codes and Cricket.
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FC Villa
Failing that I'd probably just do the 92. Visit every league football ground in the country. I'd be a geek about it to, rating them as I go along
Sounds like a good plan.
I could have ratings for various things:- Pubs nearby/ Fan's demeanor/ location and ease to get to/ food at ground/ area ground is in and so on....
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I would howl like a mourning werewolf, weep a canal of tears and do my best to help rebuild the club from zero. If this were not successful I would ignore football completely.
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I used to watch a fair bit of Wigan when I first moved up north, but as they're just another identikit Premier League team, I'd probably be the same as Chris, watching a bit of football but not supporting anybody else. I've tried a few games over here, but it's barely any better than watching kids kick a football round the park.
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Don't think I'd bother with football. I only watch games on TV now if it's Villa or there's nothing else worth watching on and even MOTD is getting to be a 'well, I suppose I should' viewing. Like lots of others, both on here and I'd guess also fans of other clubs, I only bother with modern football as I support my team, so if they were to go so would my interest in the game.
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It'd have to be FC Villa or whatever sucessor club came along. On the subject of watching other teams, some weekends I wake up with a yearning to watch some football and the Villa are too far away/too expensive and wonder about some local football but I just can't get myself motivated to do so. As others have said there's no-one else who I have the emotional attachment to like Villa. There are teams I prefer to do better than others but nowhere near the level of gut-wrenching pain or giddy joy I get from Villa
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When I moved down to the south-east in the early 1970's, I assumed (wrongly, as it turned out) that it would be too difficult to travel to Villa Park, so I adopted a London team as my second string - QPR, who were playing very exciting football at the time. I went to just one match, against Leeds (a draw, one of the 4 points Brian Clough got as Leeds manager) but felt nothing at all for my adopted team. It was just another football match, with no emotional involvement at all. So I abandoned QPR and started making the trek from Surrey, and now Sussex, to Birmingham. No regrets, despite, as Meanwood Villa says, all the frustrations, disappointments, heartbreak and agony, alleviated by the odd moment of elation.
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No team caan give me the raw emotion that Villa do it would be like a family member dying.
However I read a book Left foot in the Grave by Gary Nelson about life at Torquay utd when they stayed up because of Stevenage's ground. Best book ever about the haves and have nots so would support them. Or Woking in the blue sq sth
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It'd have to be FC Villa or whatever sucessor club came along.
And there would be one, no doubt about it.
So them and, as now, MSV Duisburg for me then.
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It'd be a bit like asking an old heroin addict 'if you could go back to before your first hit, would you do it again?'. The answer would be no, I'd keep an eye on FC Villa and maybe attend the odd match but I'd never allow myself to develop the kind of emotional attachment I have to the real Villa.
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I'd move to Spain and support Valencia.
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Walsall or Solihull Moors for me, with possibly the odd trip to see Cowdenbeath!
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I would howl like a mourning werewolf, weep a canal of tears and do my best to help rebuild the club from zero. If this were not successful I would ignore football completely.
I'd go with this. But then again...
God, it's difficult. I'm still trying to imagine a world without Villa.....
Cut to World Without Villa...
'THERE WOULD BE NO WORLD WITHOUT THE VILLA!' (dramatic voice production)
So, (images) cataclysmic hurricanes, armageddon and all 4 of the horsemen turning up and doing their thing...Sutton Town, Man Utd, Real, Juventus, and River Plate all spinning away into the ether...until there's a new order....
And the first thing to crawl up out of the sea and on to the land is a claret and blue dinosaur called...
'Emile'!
Well, I'd like it. Compared with The Final Countdown and no Villa.
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Difficult one. As some posters have also said, I would probably lose interest in football totally, other than the odd game on TV.
If Villa had never existed, having parents that came from Aston and Smethwick respectively, I would probably have been a Baggies supporter.
If I still lived in Sutton, and Villa ceased to exist, I would be tempted to support Walsall and/or Boldmere St Michael.
Living down here, I could see me gravitating towards Craven Cottage, although it's a shame Brighton is not a bit closer.
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I'd still watch football on the box but I couldn't support any other team, they're all shit and their fans are twats.
uh huh.
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Port Vale.
Mainly because a guy at work is a MASSIVE stoke fan who absolutely despises Vale.
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Port Vale.
Mainly because a guy at work is a MASSIVE stoke fan who absolutely despises Vale.
Burslem isn't too bad. Stoke is hell on Earth. They don't even have taxi ranks. Went to a Vale game last year as a bloke at work goes to all of their games.
I do have a bit of a soft spot for Fulham.
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Like to think that Id follow a local club,ie Tamworth or Burton,but bar the odd glory cup game,I find that level of football boring,hate to say it but it would probaly be the albion...
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I'd have a different team every week........In other words, whoever were playing Blues!
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I'd have a different team every week........In other words, whoever were playing Blues!
Poor.
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Whys that muppet ?
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Whys that muppet ?
Sorry General.
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Can I throw this one out there. I don't know that I would be that fussed.
I would of course initially be gutted at losing my team but I would I have the desire and energy to start up a new club? Not the way modern football is I don't think.
And it might just be the excuse I needed to start having a big chunk of my life back that I waste at the moment following a club that, like 86 others, feeds on scraps from the top table with only a fleeting hope of very occasional success and then only in competitions the Sky lot can't be arsed with.
Its a sorry state of affairs.
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Get together some like minded people to talk to AFC Wimbledon and get a team together. They only had 5000 fans but look where that got them. They also helped FC United as well
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Longford Town!
Ah, a trip to Strokestown Road (not often I have a valid reason to mention my hometown on H&V).
It's called Flancare Park now (or the 'Flan Siro' by the diehards!)
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Fortuna Düsseldorf and Borussia Mönchengladbach
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I'd have a different team every week........In other words, whoever were playing Blues!
Is the correct answer.
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I'd still watch football on the box but I couldn't support any other team, they're all shit and their fans are twats.
I agree with this
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Wouldn't go as far as to say I have a soft spot for any other club, but there are some clubs who I have less disdain for than others.
I'd include Sheffield Wednesday, Wolves and Forest in that lot, but- truth be told- I don't particularly care whether they win, lose or draw.
I might 'Go Continental' more often and attempt to get my fix at some of the grounds that still have standing areas- just for old times sake. That big bastard of a stand in Dortmund being a particular favourite.
But I don't think it could make up for not having the Villa, I'd probably just spend my time there sobbing like a big baby, thinking about what might have been.
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AJ Auxerre. Ground holds 17,500. Love 'em.
No Aston Villa? Wouldn't even look at a league table or results table. Corporate sponsors fuck off and die. I don't drive a Ford and I don't but use Gillette. Why not? Because you piss me off by being at the football you ******!
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I'd be stuck on the choice between Peel and St.Georges,depending on which I could find the best internet stream on and who's balance sheets were available to view.
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Newcastle Utd for me, not a popular choice, but I have connections up in Toonland and the place is great.
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Leeds.My brother in laws team and Villa is his second team...which is nice
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Halesowen Town.
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I would treat all organised football in Britain with the contempt it deserves. Aside from Villa I wouldn't miss it. I went to watch the Old Stars last Sunday at Dales Lane, which is where Rushall Olympic play. The regulars have to pay £7.50 to watch the Evo-Stik Premier or whatever it's called. I was astounded.
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However, having lived in Sheffield for a while, I'm tempted to go to Bramall Lane and watch Sheffield United more frequently and think they'd become my team.
I'm going for the Steel City Derby on Sunday. I may never post again........
Having lived in Shef for a while myself, I'd go for the classy team with fans from the North(ish) of the city, history, great stadium, unique name ... (sound familiar?)
You'll be fine Sunday, most aggro I've seen has been on the day before around neutral areas (Crookes, Broomhill, Eccy Rd, West St)
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I would not bother with football for a long time, then support my nearest non league team.
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However, having lived in Sheffield for a while, I'm tempted to go to Bramall Lane and watch Sheffield United more frequently and think they'd become my team.
I'm going for the Steel City Derby on Sunday. I may never post again........
Having lived in Shef for a while myself, I'd go for the classy team with fans from the North(ish) of the city, history, great stadium, unique name ... (sound familiar?)
You'll be fine Sunday, most aggro I've seen has been on the day before around neutral areas (Crookes, Broomhill, Eccy Rd, West St)
Good points Tez. Thing is, Blades are my local team and I can't be a glory hunter!
Shouldn't be too much trouble, pubs will certainly be shut though tonight could be interesting in one or two spots.
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However, having lived in Sheffield for a while, I'm tempted to go to Bramall Lane and watch Sheffield United more frequently and think they'd become my team.
I'm going for the Steel City Derby on Sunday. I may never post again........
Having lived in Shef for a while myself, I'd go for the classy team with fans from the North(ish) of the city, history, great stadium, unique name ... (sound familiar?)
You'll be fine Sunday, most aggro I've seen has been on the day before around neutral areas (Crookes, Broomhill, Eccy Rd, West St)
Good points Tez. Thing is, Blades are my local team and I can't be a glory hunter!
Shouldn't be too much trouble, pubs will certainly be shut though tonight could be interesting in one or two spots.
20min walk from Greystones is a nice treat, loved going down the cup game last season - skinful of beer after and still home quicker than the drive home. Must meet for a telly game soon.
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If Villa ceased to exist tomorrow then i would gravitate to where my favourite Villa players go to, probably then take up an interest in there careers, so if Gabby were playing at Arsenal, I would take an interest generally in Arsenal, would I support them=No, but I have to be honest I'm struggling this time out to be even interested in Villa...
Way to much finance in sport now for my liking particularly football.
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It's called Flancare Park now (or the 'Flan Siro' by the diehards!)
I know, but I can't be doing with this corporate renaming of grounds. ;)
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Arsenal. Because I liked their yellow kit as a 5 year old and it became my first kit ever owned. As such, I would just support them instead.
Not really fussed by football at all anymore though.
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Probably start watching Hinckley or Barwell and go to Tigers for the first time since I was a teenager. I'd then wait until the powers that be realised that an uncompetitive league kills interest and a wage cap is introduced. I'd then probably end up at the (insert sponsor) Stadium in Leicester.
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I'd be delighted (for myself - I'd be sorry for those of you with more commitment than I've got).
I hate what football's become, I live nowhere near VP, I can seldom muster the enthusiasm to go to London aways, I recognise that we're as bad - more or less - as all the other 'EPL' fucknuts, I hate the way that fans' loyalty is exploited until they bleed, I hate that football encourages rational adults to behave like passive-aggressive spoilt children of the worst stripe, and I find the whole thing - even the actual games - totally obnoxious and the very worse thing is that every tiny thing that we do helps to enrich that fucking satan Murdoch.
And yet I still can't help, despite it all, giving a shit.
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I'd move to Spain and support Valencia.
I'm gonna have to agree with this.
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Villa Ladies. Maybe someone has a new name for them.
They are doing well.
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Leeds.My brother in laws team and Villa is his second team...which is nice
And I thought I was the only one on here to stick up for LUFC (my brother's and nephew's/nieces's team).
EDIT: Now edited to include the right quote. Duh.
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Leeds?
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Leyton Orient.
The girlfriends dad supports them and they are fairly local. I went to a game last season and am looking forward to going and watching them play against Sheffield Utd on Sat.
I haven't been to a Villa game all season. In fact the only game I've been to is Arsenal v Sunderland as I got a free ticket.
I can't afford the Premiership. Still love Villa but its just too much money. Mind you the Mighty o's are still 20 quid. But no need to pay much in travel and I will get a lunch for free at her parents.
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I'd move to Spain and support Valencia.
I'm gonna have to agree with this.
It would be Villa-real, surely?
And Tim, couldn't you go back to supporting the baggies? :)
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Leeds?
Thanks for spotting the deliberate mistake, Cheltenham Lion. Of course, I was failing miserably to quote this post:
Leeds. My brother in laws team and Villa is his second team...which is nice
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Sorry but I can't even think about this
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...I'd watch the reserves and youth team more often instead!
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Surely if Villa don't exist there won't be a reserve or youth team either?
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Tividale/Wolves
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Couldn't support another English side. I like Bilbao and Barca, but both are pretty closed clubs, seeing as im not Basque or Catalan.
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I think Barca's matchday fanbase is about as Catalan and Man United's is Mancunian. You'd be fine there.
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Would have said Andover Town but they folded a couple of years ago, nearest league club is Reading and got no desire to see them, so probably just give up on football completely.
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As a relevant force in the premiership, we already have.
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After today's second half performance and the way I've felt after nearly every game this season it would be a relief tbh