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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Mac on September 27, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
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2214: I can't help thinking that losing 2-0 to Bayern Munich is the least of Manchester City's problems right now.
2212: More from Mancini on Tevez: "Can you imagine a Bayern Munich, Milan or man U player doing this?" And on Edin Dzeko, who reacted angrily after being brought off: "He had a poor game. In terms of being unhappy, it should be me, not him. This is the last time with me a player will do this."
2210: Doesn't look like we will be seeing Carlos Tevez in a Manchester City shirt again then...
2209: Roberto Mancini on Carlos Tevez after the Argentine refused to come off the bench tonight: "He's finished with me, with me he's finished."
2208: Around about now, Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini will be facing the written media and being asked about Carlos Tevez's astounding behaviour tonight. If Mancini is still as shell-shocked as he was when he was in front of the TV cameras after the final whistle, then whatever he says is going to make very interesting reading.
2157: Man City boss Roberto Mancini explained that he brought on defensive midfielder Nigel de Jong for striker Edin Dzeko after 55 minutes with his side trailing 2-0 because "I wanted to calm everything down." He added "Afterwards I wanted to put Carlos Tevez on the pitch, he refused to go on the pitch. For me it is a bad situation."
2154: I've heard of players refusing to play for a team before, but never refusing to come off the bench. If Carlos Tevez wasn't going to play tonight, why didn't he tell his manager and his team-mates when he was told the starting line-up? Disgraceful.
2153: Incredible. Man City boss Roberto Mancini confims Carlos Tevez refused to come off the bench against Bayern Munich. Mancini looked and sounded as stunned as you and I when he explained what happened. "I can't accept this one player refusing to go on," Mancini said.
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Tevez is a bell-end of the highest order.
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Chickens-home-roost.
You buy mercenaries then that is the result.
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More evidence that modern football is well and truly f^cked. Surely this odious little shit has now breached his contract and has to face some serious consequences?
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2209: Roberto Mancini on Carlos Tevez after the Argentine refused to come off the bench tonight: "He's finished with me, with me he's finished."
2209: Bruce Forsythe on Anton du Beke refusing to paso doble with Nancy Dell'Olio on strickly tonight: "He's finished with me, with me he's finished."
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You buy mercenaries then that is the result.
Every footballer by definition is a mercenary. It's not really a bad thing.
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Tevez is a bell-end of the highest order.
Which is a shame because he's a fantastic player, but he's just interested in playing for whoever will pay him the most money.
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Fucking brilliant.
Nothing like seeing a money bags team starting to implode. Add to that the other Mancs could only draw.
An excellent night for modern football.
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What do you expect from someone who hangs on Kia Joorabchian's every word. He didn't play for West Ham until he knew Manure was having him the following season and then started to moan to get more money there. One of the first mercenaries at Citeh, and then moaned he couldn't get a move closer to his kids (read close to the woman who he left his wife for).
He is ugly inside and out. But as someone else said in another thread, he is no different from other players now, parts of the above can apply to Rooney for example.
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Chickens-home-roost.
You buy mercenaries then that is the result.
Exactamundo....you reap what you sow
Couldn't happen to a nicer club....well, except Chelsea of course
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City should run down his contract and never let him play but force him to come to every rain-soaked freezing training session in east Manchester for the next 4 years. Plus, send him on their specially-arranged reserves tour of the Faeroes Islands and Iceland
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City should run down his contract and never let him play but force him to come to every rain-soaked freezing training session in east Manchester for the next 4 years. Plus, send him on their specially-arranged reserves tour of the Faeroes Islands and Iceland
Although they are one of the few clubs who can afford to do this, I'm sure the PFA will have some say if a club tried to take some control back, even one as odious as Citeh.
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We shall now have endless hours and pages devoted in the sports media to analysing this - one needs something after all for all those half brained idiots to get their teeth into such as Savage, Claridge, Cascarino and Fatty Quinn - and then ditto repeato when he makes a hero's return to play for City, being cheered onto the pitch no doubt for displaying his loyality to the club and scoring the winning goal. Cue analysis all over again. And on and on and on it goes...
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City should run down his contract and never let him play but force him to come to every rain-soaked freezing training session in east Manchester for the next 4 years. Plus, send him on their specially-arranged reserves tour of the Faeroes Islands and Iceland
I really hope they do. And make him sort out his own way home from Munich.
He's just been on Sky, speaking through an interpreter. Now I know that 99% of footballers are as thick as pigshit, but he's been here for 5 years, you'd think he'd have bothered to have learned the language. Didn't even answer the question he was asked, just came out with some crap about being top scorer last season and wanting the best for his family.
And now Pumpkin-Head Platt is trying to sweep it under the carpet. No doubt he's had a word in his ear from his bosses.
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I feel sorry for him , all he wants is to ring those bells..
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You would have thought with egghead Platt on the bench, he'd want to get onto the pitch as quick as poss...
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Delighted. I feel amazingly old before my time when I say money is killing football. More of this and maybe the clubs will realise that just because you pay more than others doesn't mean they will sweat blood and tears for you.
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I feel sorry for him , all he wants is to ring those bells..
Superb post!
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I wonder if some of the other Man City players might have let him know how they felt about his actions on the plane back? He might be enduring the most miserable two hours since I went to see "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull".
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He is one bad apple, one bad apple
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Although they are one of the few clubs who can afford to do this, I'm sure the PFA will have some say if a club tried to take some control back, even one as odious as Citeh.
Even an odious, sycophantic tosser like Gordon Taylor would struggle to defend Tevez.
I'm sure he'd give it a bloody good go though.
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It's utterly Shameless
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I feel sorry for him , all he wants is to ring those bells..
Brilliant JP made me lol!
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Having reflected on this news, let's hope he and Mancini kiss and make up in the next few days and then Mancini names him in the starting line up against us. Then just as the ref blows for the kick off Tevez thinks "sod it" and walks off the pitch.
Now that would be funny.
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Sod the PFA, Man City should let him rot for the rest of his contract, they have the money to do what they want and an example needs to be made for the sake of football. Plus, City will be a little weaker as a result, even better, the club goes into turmoil....we can hope.
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Man City don't need Tevez anyway.
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Fucking brilliant.
Nothing like seeing a money bags team starting to implode. Add to that the other Mancs could only draw.
An excellent night for modern football.
Tonight is just mildly amusing.
An excellent night for football would be to see the two Manc clubs go bust.
Both have been responsible for the erosion of standards and the loss of some of the most crucial aspects in the whole thing- competition. Basic sporting principles. Sport for sports sake.
On the one hand, I agree that the strongest side -or the side with the most appeal- shouldn't be penalised for that.
On the other, it was Man U* who introduced the whole PLC aspect to the game -the sport always takes a back seat when the money men get too involved and dividends need to be paid. Welcome to extortinate ticket prices, kick off dates changed at short notice and all the rest of it.
Citeh being bankrolled by Arabs who will just keep on throwing money about until some sticks is merely the garnish on the footlong shit sub.
*Actually, it might have been Tottingham who introduced it. But it was Man U -and the sycophantic treatment Sky gave them in those early PL years- that really pushed the thing on.
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[quote author=KevinGage
Citeh being bankrolled by Arabs who will just keep on throwing money about until some sticks is merely the garnish on the footlong shit sub.
Brilliantly put
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Too proud to play in the Champions League. How could you be such an unappreciative tosser?! I can't see him being around much longer. City can afford to write him off anyways. Have fun in South America, you clown.
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I've always thought he looked like a squashed Milan Baros.
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Even the Argentinian fans turned against him during the Copa Americana. The bloke is not that bright, there were all sorts of rumours flying about him in the Argentinian press regarding his lifestyle issues. sniff
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Tevez is a bell-end of the highest order.
Which is a shame because he's a fantastic player, but he's just interested in playing for whoever will pay him the most money.
He already IS playing for whoever will pay him the most money. Or rather, he isn't.
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I've always thought he looked like a squashed Milan Baros.
And I always thought Milan Baros played like a squashed Carlos Tevez who'd had his bootlaces tied togther.
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Fucking brilliant.
Nothing like seeing a money bags team starting to implode. Add to that the other Mancs could only draw.
An excellent night for modern football.
Tonight is just mildly amusing.
An excellent night for football would be to see the two Manc clubs go bust.
Both have been responsible for the erosion of standards and the loss of some of the most crucial aspects in the whole thing- competition. Basic sporting principles. Sport for sports sake.
On the one hand, I agree that the strongest side -or the side with the most appeal- shouldn't be penalised for that.
On the other, it was Man U* who introduced the whole PLC aspect to the game -the sport always takes a back seat when the money men get too involved and dividends need to be paid. Welcome to extortinate ticket prices, kick off dates changed at short notice and all the rest of it.
Citeh being bankrolled by Arabs who will just keep on throwing money about until some sticks is merely the garnish on the footlong shit sub.
*Actually, it might have been Tottingham who introduced it. But it was Man U -and the sycophantic treatment Sky gave them in those early PL years- that really pushed the thing on.
I think you are right Mr Gage, in that it was Spuds who were the first club to be floated on the stock exchange, but I get your point re Manyoo.
All footballers are mercenaries but some make a point of doing all they can for their employer whilst others seem to find the football an inconvenience to their superstar lifestyle.
Liverpool fans used to have a charming song about Mr Tevez by the way:
You'll never shag a sexy bird, Tevez, Tevez
You'll never shag a sexy bird, Tevez, Tevez
You dirty bastard your Argie c*nt
Your head is sewn on back to front
Carlos Tevez, Herman Monster's son.
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Man Citeh will go up in my estimation if they make his see out his contract. Spending it on gardening leave. Bet the don't
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I feel sorry for him , all he wants is to ring those bells..
Of course.......I thought his face rang a bell
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Tevez is a bell-end of the highest order.
Which is a shame because he's a fantastic player, but he's just interested in playing for whoever will pay him the most money.
I doubt he will get more than he does now anywhere else.
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Man Citeh will go up in my estimation if they make his see out his contract. Spending it on gardening leave. Bet the don't
It’s a lovely thought that Citeh would have take on a moral crusade against greedy footballers bleeding the game dry. They are one of the very few clubs who can afford to do so.... They won’t of course because if they did every two bit agent from here to Vladivostok would be advising their player not to go to Citeh.
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Feed the rest of him to the sharks.
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Quite an interesting night all round. In amongst the hoo ha about Tevez it seems that Dzeko threw a hissy fit when he was subbed.
Further down the pecking order it looks like Shteves job at Forest is hanging by a thread after a 5-1 hammering.
And two Kettering town players were sent off for fighting each other
On the Tevez front Gordon Taylor was on 5live just now and managed to say exactly nothing. The man is a fence sitter par excellence.
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Tevez is now denying it.
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To be honest, I'm sick of hearing about this monstrous little shitehawk and what he wants.
He wants to get to fuck, that's what he wants. The sooner the better. The absolute embodiment of everything that is wrong with football at the moment.
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Tevez seems to be hiding behind the "lost in translation" excuse. He must have been in the UK for about 5 years and does not seem to have made any effort to learn the lingo. I would imagine that English lessons are the sort of thing that Manure would insist that foreign players take, they're very big on the pastoral care of their players so Quasicarlos will have picked up some of the language whilst at Old Trafford. All in all it's a very poor excuse and probably one that his agent came up with.
If I were City, I'd make him train alone and run down his contract. If he complains, as he surely will, sue him for breach of contract and leave him further in limbo whilst the legal system grinds slowly into action.
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I wonder if he'd sign for us...how about a swap with Ireland?
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To be honest, I'm sick of hearing about this monstrous little shitehawk and what he wants.
He wants to get to fuck, that's what he wants. The sooner the better. The absolute embodiment of everything that is wrong with football at the moment.
Spot on.....wonder what James Milner's thoughts on it would be ?
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If ever you wanted to see what was wrong with modern football, Carlos Tevez is it in a nutshell.
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2209: Roberto Mancini on Carlos Tevez after the Argentine refused to come off the bench tonight: "He's finished with me, with me he's finished."
2209: Bruce Forsythe on Anton du Beke refusing to paso doble with Nancy Dell'Olio on strickly tonight: "He's finished with me, with me he's finished."
"You get nothing for a glare, not in this game."
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The natives are up in arms. http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=234677 51 pages already.
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When will someone with more money than sense gather a load of these players together to form a brand new club?
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Although they are one of the few clubs who can afford to do this, I'm sure the PFA will have some say if a club tried to take some control back, even one as odious as Citeh.
Even an odious, sycophantic tosser like Gordon Taylor would struggle to defend Tevez.
I'm sure he'd give it a bloody good go though.
If a player was having sex with a chicken on the bench and then cut its throat and drank its blood, Gordon Taylor would still defend his right to do it!
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Although they are one of the few clubs who can afford to do this, I'm sure the PFA will have some say if a club tried to take some control back, even one as odious as Citeh.
Even an odious, sycophantic tosser like Gordon Taylor would struggle to defend Tevez.
I'm sure he'd give it a bloody good go though.
If a player was having sex with a chicken on the bench and then cut its throat and drank its blood, Gordon Taylor would still defend his right to do it!
Too True, I lost faith in GT being on the fans "side" when I heard him state that " I always advice players to take as much as they can out of the game" in reference to the obscene wages and demands these "modern day" pre-madonnas get.
Him (GT) the limpless FA and Scudamore are to blame squarly and wholely for the moral collapse of football in this country.
Just my opinion anyhow.
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I echo the thoughts of most on here, Tevez is an example of what's wrong with modern football
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Cjamesk, one shared by many football fans I expect.
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The lack of interest in learning the language of a country you've lived in for five years never impressed me. Wanting to move to Milan or Madrid because they are closer to Argentina was a joke. He could have got his wish and moved back to South America in the summer if he was prepared to take a wage drop in my opinion. Then he comes back and realises he was never irreplacable anyway. Your a Man City reserve mate, the fans and your team 'mates' hate you, no-one wanted to bankrupt their club to buy you in the summer and you've just made yourself an even less attractive proposition (no pun intended).
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Biggest piss take in all this? If/when they sell him in Jan he'll still expect loyalty payments before he goes.
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Complete bell-end. Don't think they'll make him see the rest of his contract out in the stiffs though. However much he deserves it and they can afford it, £250,000 (?) a week is a lot of money even for a club that has loads of money and no principles. Think they'll try and sack him for breach of contract - and I think he knows that and explains why he's backtracking
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He still hasn't decided on his excuse for not coming on. I am all ears.
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Although they are one of the few clubs who can afford to do this, I'm sure the PFA will have some say if a club tried to take some control back, even one as odious as Citeh.
Even an odious, sycophantic tosser like Gordon Taylor would struggle to defend Tevez.
I'm sure he'd give it a bloody good go though.
What a marvellous post. I've always despised Taylor with a passion - as bad as anyone at the FA for raking in huge quantities of cash for doing jack shit and doing his utmost to defend the status quo. It's always amazed me how many sycophants in the media give the impression that he has something to say. If he had any backbone at all he'd say that players today are vastly overpaid and taking all the money straight out of football, but you'll never hear anything like that from Mr T. I wrote to WSC a good 15 years ago to ask why they bothered printing his "let's not rock the boat" ramblings - I gave up buying it soon afterwards.
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The sad thing about this for me, is that there is a whole gereration growing up thinking that this is how football has always been and will continue to be and therefore see nothing wrong in it.
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Personally, I hope he stays at City and festers, malignantly, for as long as possible.
Bollocks to him, and bollocks to the shit for brains, classless, "Welcome to Manchester", more money than sense idiots who bought him in the first place.
Zero sympathy for them.
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Is there really any downside for Tevez in having his contract cancelled for gross misconduct?
Or even for Citeh?
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He still hasn't decided on his excuse for not coming on. I am all ears.
I'm sure amidst all the fuss last night I heard something about not feeling mentally and physically right. I also heard he was agitating to come on twenty minutes before that so his mental and physical condition obviously deteriorated quite quickly.
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This really is the ugly face of football.
(http://0.tqn.com/d/worldsoccer/1/0/p/2/-/-/carlos-tevez.jpg)
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Strange situation this, but first and foremost there is no excuse for a player not taking a direct instruction from a manager, we all eat shit everyday of our lives, my misses says to me take you boots of I take them of, this blokes gets paid millions, have to say if that was me and my manager said go and stand on the side line and make funny faces i would.
However, Tevez has said he did not refuse to come on and that he was responding to Dzeko who was furious for being taken of, he also claims he had been warming up for some time and then told to sit down again, so no excuses but one thing is for sure there is generally always 2 sides to most stories, excepting of course if your a Birmingham City fan then you have no excuse for even being on the planet.
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Zero sympathy for them.
I have zero sympathy for the club and it's owners, who have no interest other than money, as 'live by the sword, die by the sword' and all that. I do, however, feel sorry for the fans as what they care about is the club, which has been totally disrespected by a millionaire footballer.
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They will recover just in time to rip us a new one in a few weeks.
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Is there really any downside for Tevez in having his contract cancelled for gross misconduct?
Or even for Citeh?
Good point. On the down side his £250,00 a week would stop until some other moneybags picks up the tab, and he and his leech agent Joorabchian would get no 'loyalty' slice of any transfer fee. There again as he'd be a free agent someone will pick him up for nothing and Tevez and Joorabchian would benefit from a massive signing-on fee. So the only negative for Tevez is a temporary interruption in cash flow (I'm sure he'll scrape by though).
The only positive for Citeh is they offload a problem player and £250,000 a week. Sure he's a good player but if he's picky about when he deigns to play for his employers they'll feel better off without him and just hoover up some other superstar to replace him
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Zero sympathy for them.
I have zero sympathy for the club and it's owners, who have no interest other than money, as 'live by the sword, die by the sword' and all that. I do, however, feel sorry for the fans as what they care about is the club, which has been totally disrespected by a millionaire footballer.
Good post here, yep the fans are having to swallow this and probably what the fans don't get is there probably isn't many of that squad that actually want to even put the shirt on, yes we have seen it bubble to the surface with Tevez, but seriously, how many of the rest of there squad feel exactly the same but won't show it.
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This really is the ugly face of football.
(http://0.tqn.com/d/worldsoccer/1/0/p/2/-/-/carlos-tevez.jpg)
He really is a handsome man isn't he.
You'd think with all that money the thick bastard would atleast get his teeth fixed.
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I've always thought he looked like a squashed Milan Baros.
[/quote if big eck had been in the dugout tevez woud have needed the air ambulance to get home
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This really is the ugly face of football.
(http://0.tqn.com/d/worldsoccer/1/0/p/2/-/-/carlos-tevez.jpg)
He really is a handsome man isn't he.
You'd think with all that money the thick bastard would atleast get his teeth fixed.
What wrong with the skin on his neck, what's that about.
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This really is the ugly face of football.
(http://0.tqn.com/d/worldsoccer/1/0/p/2/-/-/carlos-tevez.jpg)
I'm sure I spotted him in Lord of the Rings
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This really is the ugly face of football.
(http://0.tqn.com/d/worldsoccer/1/0/p/2/-/-/carlos-tevez.jpg)
He really is a handsome man isn't he.
You'd think with all that money the thick bastard would atleast get his teeth fixed.
What wrong with the skin on his neck, what's that about.
Monkey glands??
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I wonder if he'd sign for us...how about a swap with Ireland?
and Emile as they neeeeeed a defensive forward!
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This really is the ugly face of football.
Being ugly is not his fault ...being a complete twat is. But than again it's manciti and the dirty arab money so no fantastic!
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Is there really any downside for Tevez in having his contract cancelled for gross misconduct?
Or even for Citeh?
It will give Tevez what he wants?
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Although I don't have much time for Gordon Taylor as head of the PFA his job is to look after the interests of his members so I don't see why he should be criticised here.
Tevez is an arsehole and I just hope they have the balls to deal with him as he should be.
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An example has to be made of him. Fine him the maximum amount, make him train on his own, make him travel to every game...just to watch, let him see out his contract, all communication from management to him in writing. Make it clear he has no chance ever of playing for the club again regardless of how much he grovels.
City could afford to do that, yes, they'd have the loss of a massive investment to contend with but they have vast wealth which will allow them to cope with anything. Sacking him or letting him buy out his contract (unlikely) gives him exactly what he wants.
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Joorabchian's lawyers will be trying to cook up some story even now. It doesn't have to be a good excuse, just good enough to cloud the issue a bit and give the impression of 'two sides to the story'. Flat refusal to comply with a direct and reasonable request is a killer. He can't complain to be injured or ill or unprepared, he is on the bench with his kit on. Am really going to enjoy this.
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Although I don't have much time for Gordon Taylor as head of the PFA his job is to look after the interests of his members so I don't see why he should be criticised here.
Tevez is an arsehole and I just hope they have the balls to deal with him as he should be.
Taylor was on BBC News this lunchtime and was surprisingly less than enthusiastic about Tevez's behaviour. A first?
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Is it still possible to sack a player, but to withhold his registration for the duration of the contract length?
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No, I think that was the issue in the Bosman case. You can't terminate a player's employment and prevent him from working elsewhere.
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Is it still possible to sack a player, but to withhold his registration for the duration of the contract length?
I'm sure that would breach numerous employment laws.
But they can see out his contract without him playing and make him turn up to every game, despite not playing, and training session. I wouldn't even make him train with the kids, but rather on his own. Failiure to do so is a two weeks wages fine. Then, after whatever time is left on his contract, he's a freebie, but having not played for years who'd have him and at what wage? Basically, fuck his career up.
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Does anyone really believe that Tevez would give a shit that he was not played as long as he was paid?
He is the performing circus cash cow for his agent and as long as the money rolls in neither of them will give a flying fuck
Rather than pay his wages for doing nothing i would rather the Arabs put the money aside for lawyers and sack the twat - if anything they could finally use their ridiculous wealth for some good and show these mercenary bastards they have to toe the line
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Does anyone really believe that Tevez would give a shit that he was not played as long as he was paid?
He is the performing circus cash cow for his agent and as long as the money rolls in neither of them will give a flying fuck
Rather than pay his wages for doing nothing i would rather the Arabs put the money aside for lawyers and sack the twat - if anything they could finally use their ridiculous wealth for some good and show these mercenary bastards they have to toe the line
they'll only replace him with another mercenary though Hookey. Tevez is just one problem, and if it's not him then tomorrow it will be Balotelli, or Dzeko, or Adebayor when he returns or someone else. Man City could have sold him and pocketed what that Brazillian club were offering and subsidised the wages if they really wanted him gone. They got greedy as part of the sale, so they are getting what was inevitably going to happen at some point.
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I think part of the problem is that despite all the money Man City are not yet established as a big club and as such some of the players feel that they're doing them a favour just by being there.
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This really is the ugly face of football.
(http://0.tqn.com/d/worldsoccer/1/0/p/2/-/-/carlos-tevez.jpg)
He really is a handsome man isn't he.
You'd think with all that money the thick bastard would atleast get his teeth fixed.
What wrong with the skin on his neck, what's that about.
He scalded himself in the bath as a child AFAIK.
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I think part of the problem is that despite all the money Man City are not yet established as a big club and as such some of the players feel that they're doing them a favour just by being there.
agreed, and it will be that way until they win the PL at least and remain successful over a few seasons. Given their wealth that scenario is quite possible. They might learn from their experience yesterday that showed them spending money doesn't make you big in Europe. Clubs like Bayern are old money established European elite and have the depth of experience and knowledge of competition at the highest level.
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Am I alone in thinking that it would be a good thing if both Beye & Ireland refused to play for Villa, saving us from a) having to watch them in horror through clasped fingers & b) pay them for the rest of their worthless contracts?
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This really is the ugly face of football.
(http://0.tqn.com/d/worldsoccer/1/0/p/2/-/-/carlos-tevez.jpg)
He really is a handsome man isn't he.
You'd think with all that money the thick bastard would atleast get his teeth fixed.
What wrong with the skin on his neck, what's that about.
He scalded himself in the bath as a child AFAIK.
Surely that's just the Joorabchian-created cover story for the widwife trying to drown him at birth?
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To be fair to Tevez, the phrases 'please go on the pitch an score a few' and 'I'm feeling a bit peckish, could you nip down to the outdoor and get me a bar of chocolate' do sound remarkably similar in South American Spanish.
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My heart bleeds purple piss.
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I sympathise with Tevez.
If I was relaxing and watching a Champions League match and some Italian told me to get onto the pitch and play against Bayern Munich, I would have refused too. 'No way, I'm not good enough," would have been my response.
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I sympathise with Tevez.
If I was relaxing and watching a Champions League match and some Italian told me to get onto the pitch and play against Bayern Munich, I would have refused too. 'No way, I'm not good enough," would have been my response.
Could that be his clever defence if mancity do sack him and he sues for compensation?
"That evening watching other players perform on the pitch my client felt that he will not be able to contribute at the same level or improve his team. In fact he felt that the team performance level will drop if he played and told his Coach so by his action."
This could be accepted by the Court as reasonable judgement by the player in refusing to join the action on the pitch.
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Am I alone in thinking that it would be a good thing if both Beye & Ireland refused to play for Villa, saving us from a) having to watch them in horror through clasped fingers & b) pay them for the rest of their worthless contracts?
Huh... don't know where you have been but Ireland did refuse to play in the entire match against Bolton and the first half against QPR.
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Human compassion is conspicuous only by its absence in this thread.
You can't blame the unfortunate fellow for hot having his head right when they clearly botched the job of sewing it back on.
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I believe he has been suspended for two weeks.
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I believe he has been suspended for two weeks.
Sporting life reporting he suspended for two weeks.
Does not say whether the poor little scamp will be paid or not.
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Yep BBC reporting it now too, I think he is not training and won't be paid, shame!
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I believe he has been suspended for two weeks.
That'll learn him
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Last night's reactions were understandably in the heat of the moment. It's now the damage limitation stage.
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Has a Villa player ever done the same?
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Southgate wasn't happy with the club and the lack of ambition it showed, but he carried on and played very well and so was a superb professional. I have never heard of a player refusing to come off the bench, plenty have disappeared before kick off but not during the game!
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A lot of us have seen a certain player in our colours on the pitch but practically playing for the other team. I wish he had refused to play for us.
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In my opinion nothing underlines the chasm between city and united morethan this. With Fergie his arse wouldnt have touched the floor on the way out. I reckon he would have been sacked on the spot, regardless of value.
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Am I alone in thinking that it would be a good thing if both Beye & Ireland refused to play for Villa, saving us from a) having to watch them in horror through clasped fingers & b) pay them for the rest of their worthless contracts?
Huh... don't know where you have been but Ireland did refuse to play in the entire match against Bolton and the first half against QPR.
So what's the excuse of the other 10 players?!
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Although I don't have much time for Gordon Taylor as head of the PFA his job is to look after the interests of his members so I don't see why he should be criticised here.
Tevez is an arsehole and I just hope they have the balls to deal with him as he should be.
Err, you give an example of why Gordon Taylor should be criticised in the second half of your post. I'm glad to say I'm not the only one on here sickened by Taylor's decades of spineless toeing the line. He's got about as many opinions worth hearing as Jamie Redknapp.
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Misunderstanding my arse.
First he should be fined the maximum allowed. That money should then be distributed equally amongst all Man City fans who went to Munich for the game.
For footballers, with their 1st class seats or in private jets and transitting through VIP lounges all paid for, international travel is just a simple regular occurence.
For football supporters going to watch these players on pitches abroad can involve careful planning, discomfort and monetary sacrifice. Yes, when we go its our choice but the least we should expect is for the players to walk over and give a quick acknowlegment at the end. If I dont get that I am going to have a bit of a moan, so if any Villa player did what Tevez did and I was there I would be foaming at the mouth with rage.
Complete and utter total disrespect of the worst form to the fans.
I really dont care whether he plays for Man City again or not, he will finish up playing for someone. He hope he gets absolutely slaughtered by home and away fans wherever he turns up.
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In my opinion nothing underlines the chasm between city and united morethan this. With Fergie his arse wouldnt have touched the floor on the way out. I reckon he would have been sacked on the spot, regardless of value.
Or they would have given him a massive pay rise.
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Next time you go into work and the boss tells you to do something just tell him to fuck off.
Yes you'll be out so fast you'll think you're a neutrino, but at the industrial tribunal you can claim that you were just following the example set by a "role model".
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Next time you go into work and the boss tells you to do something just tell him to fuck off.
Yes you'll be out so fast you'll think you're a neutrino, but at the industrial tribunal you can claim that you were just following the example set by a "role model".
I dare say there are people out there stupid enough to hold footballers up as 'role models'
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Instead of Tevez's two weeks wages staying in Sheik Mansoor's pocket. It might be a good idea if he made Tevez hand over a cheque in person to The Royal British Legion, where the money would benefit some real role models.,
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Although I don't have much time for Gordon Taylor as head of the PFA his job is to look after the interests of his members so I don't see why he should be criticised here.
Tevez is an arsehole and I just hope they have the balls to deal with him as he should be.
Err, you give an example of why Gordon Taylor should be criticised in the second half of your post. I'm glad to say I'm not the only one on here sickened by Taylor's decades of spineless toeing the line. He's got about as many opinions worth hearing as Jamie Redknapp.
Err, you do understand what Taylor's job is don't you? He's head of the players union, his responsibility is to his members not fans or the wider game.
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Seems strange that Scholes, a devoted player to Manchester Utd as come out and said that not only can he understand Tevez, he actually did worse under Ferguson, ffs, can you imagine anybody doing that under Fergie, no wonder he hasn't been able to string a sentence together for years.
Seems strange as well that Pardew who came out yesterday with his point of view having managed the player didn't exactly condemn Tevez, in fact his parting shot was more aimed at how the player and situation was managed
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Sitting outside a coffee shop in Finsbury Square yesterday a bloke came up to me for 'some change'.
I asked him why he was in that position, his story ( if true) really moved me.
He has no fixed abode and as such can't get benefits.
Because he can't get benefits he has to 'make' £25 each day by begging to pay for his stay at a backpacking hostel and each day was a 'make £25 then go home' day.
He was in a catch 22 situation - no identity to get a job, no way of getting an identity ( address, utility bills, passport etc.) so he was persona non gratis in today's world.
One tenth of Tevez's weekly wage could sort his life out.
Puts things into perspective, Tevez, the guy who came from the back streets of Argentina to now be earning a reported £13 million a year is a total arsehole.
Sack him and move on, football, even in its current state can't afford to have this mentality employed in it.
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Instead of Tevez's two weeks wages staying in Sheik Mansoor's pocket. It might be a good idea if he made Tevez hand over a cheque in person to The Royal British Legion, where the money would benefit some real role models.,
I'm sure that would go down well in Argentina...
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From @sikipediabot "If Carlos Tevez doesn't wanna play in Europe he should have signed for Liverpool."
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From @sikipediabot "If Carlos Tevez doesn't wanna play in Europe he should have signed for Liverpool."
nicked for facebook
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Tevez sums up Man city right now, good football but no credibility whatsoever. Wherever he lands next (and he will), someones getting a top player with the integrity of a snake.
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That great man of Virtue and honesty Kia Joorabchian has had his say here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15187855.stm)
Two points I will take issue with are
"Carlos does speak English but his English his not good enough to host a full-blown interview," stated the Iranian-born businessman.
"I listened to the questions in English and the interpretations in Spanish. Both questions were interpreted incorrectly and both answers of Carlos were then misinterpreted."
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"You have to remember Carlos joined Manchester City when he had an official offer from Real Madrid and Manchester United on the table.
"He was one of the first players to join Manchester City's new vision. It's a great vision and Carlos was brought in to help start that vision.
Now if there is a massive misinterpretation (again) then surely the interpretor who would have been his own or the clubs I reckon (why else have one in Germany for that match) should need sacking if he got it wrong both ways.
And the fact he turned down offers from Manure and Real Madrid to go to Citeh just shows that money came first to Kia... I mean Carlos and not playing football for the glory.
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He's been in the PL in England for about 5 years and he still hasn't got the hang of -
'Warm up, you're going on.'
What is there to misinterpret?
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He's been in the PL in England for about 5 years and he still hasn't got the hang of -
'Warm up, you're going on.'
What is there to misinterpret?
Whatever his representatives want to, unfortunately. Is this the same man who allegedly claimed he wanted to be near his children, who meant the world to him, but they're in Argentina and he's in the UK? I'm cynical enough to realise he may actually have been misrepresented in some media articles about him, and that he needs to earn mega bucks to pay all his advisers/entourage, and that being wealthy doesn't mean he doesn't have problems. Still difficult for me to view him as anything other than a grade A git.
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He's been in the PL in England for about 5 years and he still hasn't got the hang of -
'Warm up, you're going on.'
What is there to misinterpret?
Whatever his representatives want to, unfortunately. Is this the same man who allegedly claimed he wanted to be near his children, who meant the world to him, but they're in Argentina and he's in the UK? I'm cynical enough to realise he may actually have been misrepresented in some media articles about him, and that he needs to earn mega bucks to pay all his advisers/entourage, and that being wealthy doesn't mean he doesn't have problems. Still difficult for me to view him as anything other than a grade A git.
That's what I thought as well. Uncanny!
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Wants to be closer to home?
Loan him out to a side in the Falkland Islands - on the proviso he sails there himself - in a rubber dinghy. He can bring that tit Joorabchin too, if he really needs to. As he seems to go everywhere with him. In fact, I'd insist on it...
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There is one plus point for him..........he dislikes Manchester almost as much as we do. ;D
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Wants to be closer to home?
Loan him out to a side in the Falkland Islands - on the proviso he sails there himself - in a rubber dinghy. He can bring that tit Joorabchin too, if he really needs to. As he seems to go everywhere with him. In fact, I'd insist on it...
The Royal Navy could use them both for target practice too, you might be on to something there.
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Buy him some penguins and unexploded mines. That will do the trick.
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Tevez isn't as good as he thinks he is. He's also a pillock. Like all too many footballers in this day and age, I wish he'd just bugger off somewhere out of sight and out of mind. He hate the coniving attitude of some footballers, often brought on by their scumbag agents. Why can't he just have the guts to be honest and say he refused to play and that he's a (in the words of Steven Seagal) a scumbag, puke, pussy asshole!
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Tevez isn't as good as he thinks he is. He's also a pillock. Like all too many footballers in this day and age, I wish he'd just bugger off somewhere out of sight and out of mind. He hate the coniving attitude of some footballers, often brought on by their scumbag agents. Why can't he just have the guts to be honest and say he refused to play and that he's a (in the words of Steven Seagal) a scumbag, puke, pussy asshole!
Is that what Segal said about Tevez, shit it coming at him from all sides, bloke needs to get back to Corned beef land
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Tevez isn't as good as he thinks he is.
Dean Saunders with a mashed-up neck. And a stinking attitude.
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Isn't this a sign of things to come? With the salaries paid to footballers now, becoming millionaires in the space of a few months, can they now do as they please?
Like a intemperate movie star that refuses to leave their trailer because their coffee wasn't the right temperature, footballers now decide whether they fancy playing or not.
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I just listened to the Joorabchian interview on the BBC - wtf is this bloke doing at a "Leaders In Football" conference. More like leechers in football. Dickhead!