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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Mortimer4England on September 04, 2011, 11:51:28 PM

Title: Hogg
Post by: Mortimer4England on September 04, 2011, 11:51:28 PM
Mildly surprised to note he has moved to Watford. He looked a reasonable squad player to me
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: JJ-AV on September 05, 2011, 12:05:50 AM
I was a little surprised too, I don't ever think he'll be a star but he was decent in the challenge and could get about the pitch.

When you're looking to close a game out he'd be a decent third man in midfield putting pressure on the ball.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: timeoutbigbar on September 05, 2011, 01:36:01 AM
Was never likely to be anywhere near the first team, especially with the arrival of Jenas.  Not surprised at all.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: willywombat on September 05, 2011, 02:13:28 AM
A decent championship player, good journeyman pro but not a lot more IMO
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: darren woolley on September 05, 2011, 03:30:31 AM
I was surprised he left but he wanted first team football.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: villadelph on September 05, 2011, 03:54:43 AM
I was a little surprised he was shipped off. I didn't really expect any of our immediate youth to leave, let alone a center midfielder. I thought he was a strong player and couldn't complain about his work rate. Though, he would rarely ever see first team football at Villa, he was a good asset to have that didn't seem to get jittery in games.

I hope he does really well and can find his way back into the Prem.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: UK Redsox on September 05, 2011, 08:32:59 AM
I was a little surprised he was shipped off. I didn't really expect any of our immediate youth to leave, let alone a center midfielder. I thought he was a strong player and couldn't complain about his work rate. Though, he would rarely ever see first team football at Villa, he was a good asset to have that didn't seem to get jittery in games.

I hope he does really well and can find his way back into the Prem.

It doesn't appear that Hogg was "shipped off". From his quotes on da Beeb, it seems that is was his choice to leave

Quote
"I'm at the stage of my career now where I need to be playing games,"
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: TheBarneyArmy on September 05, 2011, 08:43:05 AM
A decent championship player, good journeyman pro but not a lot more IMO


Agreed, never going to cut it week in week out in the upper echelons of the premier league.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: QBVILLA on September 05, 2011, 08:57:05 AM
At 22, he either had to be getting games or moving on.Decent player who will IMO go onto have a respectable career.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 05, 2011, 09:07:14 AM
The day GH, through no other choice due to injury, paired him and Bannan against the red filth my heart went in my mouth

for 60 minutes they ran United ragged, even the cnut Fergie stated that we should have won by 6 - whether they could have continued like that we will never know
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: UsualSuspect on September 05, 2011, 09:12:05 AM
A decent championship player, good journeyman pro but not a lot more IMO


Agree

These kids are now 21/22 so if they don't look up to it ship 'em out
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: ktvillan on September 05, 2011, 10:03:12 AM
Looked a decent player, especially against Man Yoo last season.  Remains to be seen if he is longer term PL standard I suppose. 
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 05, 2011, 10:36:26 AM
Not a high enough standard, he went on loan and he didnt look that good, your going to get payers that move on its part of the game
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 05, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
I dont think this one will come back to bite us like Gary Cahill ...
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 05, 2011, 11:19:52 AM
Neither do I.

Decent at the start but he was massively out of his depth in the Spurs game on boxing day, should've been sent off before half time.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: DrGonzo on September 05, 2011, 11:20:55 AM
At the age of 22 you should know if he is capable of regular 1st team football at this level.  If not it does neither the player or the club any good to dither.  If he is a squad player only he'll be filling a place that a younger player could be occupying...
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: brice jovial on September 05, 2011, 06:40:09 PM
Unfortunate taht we let the hogg out who who !! Not such a player for epl.
i think he will do well for watford.
A player to avoid backing on scoring goals i think hes a player who will get more yellow cards than goals. To me his game is suited to mls think he would be top pro out there.   
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 05, 2011, 06:49:36 PM
Not quite good enough, thanks for the effort.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: mal on September 05, 2011, 07:05:10 PM
Unfortunate taht we let the hogg out who who !! Not such a player for epl.
i think he will do well for watford.
A player to avoid backing on scoring goals i think hes a player who will get more yellow cards than goals. To me his game is suited to mls think he would be top pro out there.   

but he came back to become Villa reserve team's leading goalscorer as they won the 2008–09 Premier Reserve League Southern section.[4]
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 05, 2011, 07:12:07 PM
A decent player and good on him for wanting to move and play football and kickstart his career. Surprised we didn't get nay kind of fee for him though.

I reckon he will have a good lower league career, along the lines of Whittingham/Murray, but I seriously doubt him leaving will ever come back to haunt us.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 05, 2011, 07:16:02 PM
I think he made right decision for long term. If he stay he might play 50 games for whole career and other oprion is he could play 350 games for other club or three.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: Dave on September 05, 2011, 07:17:14 PM
A decent player and good on him for wanting to move and play football and kickstart his career. Surprised we didn't get nay kind of fee for him though.
£300,000 I remember reading somewhere.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 05, 2011, 07:28:51 PM
A decent player and good on him for wanting to move and play football and kickstart his career. Surprised we didn't get nay kind of fee for him though.
£300,000 I remember reading somewhere.

For some reason I thought i'd read it was a free. But using the wonders of Google I just found this from a local Watford paper.
"Hogg, who signed a three-year contract in a deal which we understand will cost Watford an initial £300,000." 
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: brice jovial on September 05, 2011, 07:54:15 PM
Unfortunate taht we let the hogg out who who !! Not such a player for epl.
i think he will do well for watford.
A player to avoid backing on scoring goals i think hes a player who will get more yellow cards than goals. To me his game is suited to mls think he would be top pro out there.   

but he came back to become Villa reserve team's leading goalscorer as they won the 2008–09 Premier Reserve League Southern section.[4]

I appreciate he did well in '08-09 res team football but thats way different level and it was also a few years ago - he hasn't really develloped in to a midfield dynamo imho

goood luck to him though
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: Chris Smith on September 05, 2011, 09:12:08 PM
Right decision to get rid. Always looked overweight to me and was regularly given the runaround by those Duke boys
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 05, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
Are you sure he didn't Boss the midfield?
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: Simon Ward on September 06, 2011, 10:43:43 AM
Are you sure he didn't Boss the midfield?

I see what you did there! Making those sort of jokes can be a bit Hazardous though!
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: QBVILLA on September 06, 2011, 11:42:39 AM
Is there a possibility we can incorporate Daisy Duke's tits and arse into this conversation?
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: timeoutbigbar on September 06, 2011, 12:01:45 PM
I believe you just did, without an ounce of subtlety.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: QBVILLA on September 06, 2011, 12:11:12 PM
I believe you just did, without an ounce of subtlety.

Excellent.So Daisy's arse? Magnificent i'd say.
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 06, 2011, 02:50:28 PM
There was a girl wearing Daisy Duke shorts in the Lower Holte for the Hereford game. I remember when I saw her I thought who the hell wears shorts like that to Villa-Hereford on a Tuesday night. Looked like she had nice legs though!
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: Mortimer4England on September 09, 2011, 12:46:26 AM
There was a girl wearing Daisy Duke shorts in the Lower Holte for the Hereford game. I remember when I saw her I thought who the hell wears shorts like that to Villa-Hereford on a Tuesday night. Looked like she had nice legs though!

Wish I had gone now!

Thanks for the comments on Hogg, I think on balance he probably has done the right thing for his career
Title: Re: Hogg
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on September 10, 2011, 09:43:53 AM
having watched his progression for a few years, i am not surprised in the slightest...

i expect herd and lichaj to follow him in the next couple of years too...
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