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Title: Oh dear god.....
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 30, 2011, 09:13:30 PM
I've been away for a couple of days so apologies if this has already been picked up:

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/08/27/alex-mcleish-tips-emile-heskey-to-convert-to-centre-half-one-day-97319-29312427/

Heaven help us
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: Dave on August 30, 2011, 09:17:30 PM
He's playing far enough back that he's virtually playing centre half already most of the time.
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Post by: Clampy on August 30, 2011, 09:19:47 PM
I've been away for a couple of days so apologies if this has already been picked up:

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/08/27/alex-mcleish-tips-emile-heskey-to-convert-to-centre-half-one-day-97319-29312427/

Heaven help us

Maybe in the Championship he might get away with it against teams who hoof the ball, but in the Prem he's get slaughtered.
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Post by: olaftab on August 30, 2011, 09:20:22 PM
He can't head a ball to save his life he has no sense of timing so how?
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Post by: gervilla on August 30, 2011, 09:22:40 PM
He'd have rings ran around him. Hopefully he'll be back at Blues by then.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 30, 2011, 09:24:49 PM
He'd have rings ran around him. Hopefully he'll be back at Blues by then.

Here's hoping

Why does AM have to come out with such bollocks?

Anyone who has seen Heskey jump for the the ball 10 minutes before it arrives/after it has gone and his tackl;e near the end on Sat would know that a centre half he aint
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Post by: gaucho1966 on August 30, 2011, 09:26:01 PM
I'm not sure what I find more worrying, the fact that he thinks it or that he's said it publicly.
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Post by: Macho Man Randy Savage on August 30, 2011, 09:29:24 PM
I think Heskey can be a useful player still if used properly, but I'm struggling to see him ever be a successful centre back.
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Post by: gervilla on August 30, 2011, 09:30:44 PM
I really can't see any use for him at all on a football pitch.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 30, 2011, 09:35:19 PM
Not in a million years could Heskey be used as a regular CB. In an emergency if you've used all your subs and have a current CB injured/sent off and Heskey is on the pitch, then yes, but as a regular starter there?
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: TheTimVilla on August 30, 2011, 09:48:35 PM
I remember Daveeed Ginola saying he'd play in defence before he retired
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 30, 2011, 09:50:17 PM
I'm not sure what I find more worrying, the fact that he thinks it or that he's said it publicly.

Exactly

Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: Chris Smith on August 30, 2011, 09:57:42 PM
He said "he might even one day have to fill in at centre-half".

What's the big deal?
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Post by: Chris Jameson on August 30, 2011, 10:24:07 PM
He said "he might even one day have to fill in at centre-half".

What's the big deal?

That he even thought it?
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Post by: Chris Smith on August 30, 2011, 10:27:25 PM
He said "he might even one day have to fill in at centre-half".

What's the big deal?

That he even thought it?

Ah I see - thought crime, that's the worst type.
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Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 30, 2011, 10:30:14 PM
Are people serious here?  It was a throw away line probably after he was asked a question about Heskey.  It's not like he said it was his intended plan.

Get over it.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 30, 2011, 10:31:03 PM
He can't head a ball to save his life he has no sense of timing so how?
He probably heads more balls away defending corners than Dunne & Collins
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 30, 2011, 10:32:02 PM
O'Neill asked Heskey to play CB before one game a couple of years ago & he walked out.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: TheSandman on August 30, 2011, 10:33:16 PM
Considering all the things there are to moan about at the club this is scraping the bottom of the barrel and a waste of my hard strapped reading of moans time.

This is not aided by the fact that the thread title has absolutely no clue as to what is contained therein so I have to click on it to find out if we have signed some shite player or if we have let another one go.

I really don't think we will see Heskey at centre back in the immediate future at Villa.
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Post by: bertlambshank on August 30, 2011, 10:33:40 PM
O'Neill asked Heskey to play CB before one game a couple of years ago & he walked out.
Walked or limped.
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 30, 2011, 10:35:08 PM
I'm a major fan of Mr. Heskey.   Which bit of the last 11 games featuring him didn't you like?   
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Post by: LeeB on August 30, 2011, 10:37:38 PM
O'Neill asked Heskey to play CB before one game a couple of years ago & he walked out.
Walked or limped.

A genuine lol.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: bertlambshank on August 30, 2011, 10:38:01 PM
I'm a major fan of Mr. Heskey.   Which bit of the last 11 games featuring him didn't you like?   
The last 30 minutes on Saturday for a start.He went missing.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: Somniloquism on August 30, 2011, 10:38:47 PM
He can't head a ball to save his life he has no sense of timing so how?
He probably heads more balls away defending corners than Dunne & Collins

Exactly. It is easier to head away from goal then towards it as there is slightly more space to aim for.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: Somniloquism on August 30, 2011, 10:40:39 PM
I'm a major fan of Mr. Heskey.   Which bit of the last 11 games featuring him didn't you like?   
The last 30 minutes on Saturday for a start.He went missing.

So it was Heskeys fault that the manager never subbed in when he had run himself into the ground.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: LeeB on August 30, 2011, 10:42:01 PM
He'd have rings ran around him. Hopefully he'll be back at Blues by then.

Here's hoping

Why does AM have to come out with such bollocks?

Anyone who has seen Heskey jump for the the ball 10 minutes before it arrives/after it has gone and his tackl;e near the end on Sat would know that a centre half he aint


Why not? Talking shite seems to be de rigueur round these parts, maybe he's just joining in the fun.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: bertlambshank on August 30, 2011, 10:44:08 PM
I'm a major fan of Mr. Heskey.   Which bit of the last 11 games featuring him didn't you like?   
The last 30 minutes on Saturday for a start.He went missing.

So it was Heskeys fault that the manager never subbed in when he had run himself into the ground.
It's Heskeys fault he can't last 90 minutes.Petrov gets dogs abuse for the same thing.
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 30, 2011, 11:07:22 PM
I'm a major fan of Mr. Heskey.   Which bit of the last 11 games featuring him didn't you like?   
The last 30 minutes on Saturday for a start.He went missing.

So it was Heskeys fault that the manager never subbed in when he had run himself into the ground.
It's Heskeys fault he can't last 90 minutes.Petrov gets dogs abuse for the same thing.

Love his goals, his assists and the holding up thing.  Totally unselfish and up for the villa and the team.

Also found this on wiki:

Heskey plays as a forward with pace, being a powerful targetman with physical strength and is hard working.[2][79][118] His play has been likened to "a blunt instrument with which to bludgeon defences".[119] His main contributions to the team lie in the way he holds the ball up and draws defenders out, leaving space behind him for another player to score.[79] He has been credited as being an unselfish player who allows other forwards to benefit.[120] He is not a prolific goalscorer but is able to provide a significant amount of assists.[121] He has been quoted as saying "Forwards are judged on their goalscoring. But I like to think I bring a lot more to the game and I do get pleasure from assisting".[122] He impressed the England staff with his versatility, as he can also play down the left wing.[123] However, he has been criticised by the media for his lack of goals;[124][125] lapses in his goalscoring have been described as being "hardly uncommon".[126] In 2008 it was stated that "It is only the perception of his talents that changes" after Heskey stated he was no better or worse than before.[127

Emile is my hero.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: olaftab on August 30, 2011, 11:12:27 PM
 Heskey  may one day "Fill in at centre half" Surely Aston Villa F C  will not hit rock bottom for that to happen!
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: olaftab on August 30, 2011, 11:20:01 PM
He can't head a ball to save his life he has no sense of timing so how?
He probably heads more balls away defending corners than Dunne & Collins

Pleased you said probably as  this  statistically is not correct and in  any case being there to stop opposition attackers from having a free  go at the ball is a little bit different from playing CB as a job. Paul McGrath please look away if that ever happens.
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 30, 2011, 11:23:49 PM
The last 4 villa managers and Fabio all agree with me.  Emile Heskey is first choice for the team.  Club and country.  Eat it up.  He's brill. Let's celebrate him!
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: timeoutbigbar on August 30, 2011, 11:31:23 PM
Everyone loves a ball playing CB.
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: Somniloquism on August 30, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
I'm a major fan of Mr. Heskey.   Which bit of the last 11 games featuring him didn't you like?   
The last 30 minutes on Saturday for a start.He went missing.

So it was Heskeys fault that the manager never subbed in when he had run himself into the ground.
It's Heskeys fault he can't last 90 minutes.Petrov gets dogs abuse for the same thing.

Playing midfield is a different fitness level then playing striker and I doubt Bent would be very mobile playing in a similar role after a similar amount of time. I also don't give Petrov dogs abuse for the same thing either. The manager should either be prepared it is going to happen and be ready with subs or look to change the style of play to enable the stamina to last, or look to get players in to allow these players to be rested/leave. Having to play every match doesn't help either for both players.
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Post by: KevinGage on August 31, 2011, 02:01:03 AM
I'm a major fan of Mr. Heskey.   Which bit of the last 11 games featuring him didn't you like?   

I liked it all, I particularly liked his demented charge at the referee against Wigan at home when he tried to get himself sent off.
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Post by: pooligan on August 31, 2011, 02:14:55 AM
Let's face it,he could not be any worse than he is as a centre forward.
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 31, 2011, 07:51:09 AM
Say it ain't so.

We can't afford to lose his goal threat.
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Post by: Greg N'Ash on August 31, 2011, 09:06:16 AM
well he's not much use as a forward so i'm guessing AM is just considering his options.. Personally if you lay him down flat on the floor and build a wooden frame around him he'd make a perfect team bench. Stand him upright and you've got one side of a goalpost or maybe a supporting pillar if we ever rebuild the North stand.
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Post by: Simon Ward on August 31, 2011, 10:08:27 AM
Genuine funny comments all over this thread and I think it tragic you guys didn't perform stand up at Edinburgh!
Title: Re: Oh dear god.....
Post by: Simon Ward on August 31, 2011, 10:09:14 AM
He said "he might even one day have to fill in at centre-half".

What's the big deal?

That he even thought it?

Ah I see - thought crime, that's the worst type.

And the thought police are the bad cops!
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Post by: TonyD on August 31, 2011, 10:17:47 AM
I really can't see any use for him at all on a football pitch.
This
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Post by: olaftab on August 31, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
I really can't see any use for him at all on a football pitch.
This

not even at half time with a fork in his hand?
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Post by: bertlambshank on August 31, 2011, 11:11:28 AM
I really can't see any use for him at all on a football pitch.
This

not even at half time with a fork in his hand?
He would fall over.
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Post by: The Laughing Policeman on August 31, 2011, 11:18:01 AM
Didn't we once have a saxophone playing centre forward who converted to CB with limited success?
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Post by: bertlambshank on August 31, 2011, 11:18:48 AM
Didn't we once have a saxophone playing centre forward who converted to CB with limited success?
Bleeding gums wasn't it?
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Post by: QBVILLA on August 31, 2011, 11:24:24 AM
I recall him playing at centre half for Wigan in a game they needed to win to stay up and he was immense.He's definitely an asset at defensive set pieces, whether he could be a good centre half on a regular basis, i'm not so sure, but he's a stack better footballer than he's given credit for by Villa fans.Mind you we've always loved a scapegoat.
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Post by: Chris Jameson on August 31, 2011, 12:34:48 PM
IF Heskey did end up playing at centre half and IF Villa were to sign Titus to partner him I would buy a season ticket. The japes and fuckwittery would be worth every penny.
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