Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Mattwall on August 29, 2011, 10:20:36 AM
-
It's so frustrating to see stylian get on the teamsheet ahead of Ireland or bannan. He isn't good enough any more that's no disrespect to what he's done for us it's just true he's had it. And to me to keep him as captain indicates he'd got no plan of dropping him. Bannan is so much more creative than petrov and we not starting him. That's just my thoughts don't know what you think
-
Well he may as well join the queue of others it's frustrating to see on the team sheet. Heskey, anyone?
-
Petrov was excellent on Saturday.
-
Excellent is a bit strong. Competent perhaps.
-
I think Petrov has started the season in good form. I'd just like to see us playing a proper 4-4-2 with Heskey not in the team.
-
It's so frustrating to see stylian get on the teamsheet ahead of Ireland or bannan. He isn't good enough any more that's no disrespect to what he's done for us it's just true he's had it. And to me to keep him as captain indicates he'd got no plan of dropping him. Bannan is so much more creative than petrov and we not starting him. That's just my thoughts don't know what you think
Completely disagree, especially after Saturday.
-
I think Petrov has started the season in good form. I'd just like to see us playing a proper 4-4-2 with Heskey not in the team.
I think that's what everyone wants... except AMcL of course.
-
We have far greater problems than Petrov at the moment.
He's done very little wrong so far this season.
-
Petrol has had a really good start to the season.
-
I think Petrov has started the season in good form. I'd just like to see us playing a proper 4-4-2 with Heskey not in the team.
I reckon we'd be in the bottom 6 if we'd tried to play 4-4-2 with the players we have. I'd rather we used Bannan but there's nothing wrong with the formation.
As for Petrov, he's played well in every game so far and we need his knowledge and experience in the side.
-
Don't get me wrong I ain't come on here to slate him I just feel that bannan would do a better job. And heskey is dreadful he adds fuck all to the team he never busts a gut to get in the box when bent has ball out wide
-
Excellent is a bit strong. Competent perhaps.
Excellent my arse
he was competent nithing more nothing less - pretty much the same as the past 2 seasons
- breaks up play on occasion
- nice 10 yard sideways passes
- sweaty
- totally uninspiring - not captain material
-
Don't get me wrong I ain't come on here to slate him I just feel that bannan would do a better job.
They play different roles and have different jobs.
Bannan should be in the team doing Heskey's job, with Petrov behind him.
-
I think Petrov has started the season in good form. I'd just like to see us playing a proper 4-4-2 with Heskey not in the team.
I think that's what everyone wants... except AMcL of course.
I don't, I don't like 442 with the kind of fwds we have in the squad. Almost no top club plays traditional English style 442 now, and those that do, like Manure, have a Rooney type player who can drop off.
I'd like to think that 4-3-3-, with a more in form N'Zogbia and Gabby wide of Bent, plus a more creative influence than Heskey, is the answer over the course of the season. Ireland and Bannan both deserve a chance to be that man. But it does risk having really limited physical presence. We were a bit too direct for my liking against Blackburn, less so against Wolves. But that directness helped us create chances in the first game with fewer in the second. We'd need Gabby nd N'Zogbia to give real support to Bent if we were to drop Heskey for Bannan. I'm not saying don't do that, but I don't think I'd do it against Everton away. We struggle to keep the ball up there at the best of times and I reckon heskey helps us do that with his sheer physicsal presence. I could see bannan being crowded out a bit
For now, I think Petrov, Heskey, Dunne and Collins have been our best players this season, along with Gabby. The first 4 would probably have all been shipped out by at least half the posters on this site over the course of the summer
-
I'm not Petrov's biggest fan but i think he's been good so far this season. He's not the problem, in fact him and Delph both seem to compliment each other quite well. Trying to supply scoring chances for Bent is what needs addressing more than anything.
-
Petrov has been very good since about February. He's been solid & worked his balls off. So he's a bit slow, has he ever been quick?
-
Hei i created a thread so such thoughts on villa players could be discussed so can i point this out. Rather than creating a new thread check out forum rules which i have recently read.
Maybe we shud move this thread as it makes more sense to use my thread.
-
Don't get me wrong I ain't come on here to slate him I just feel that bannan would do a better job.
They play different roles and have different jobs.
Bannan should be in the team doing Heskey's job, with Petrov behind him.
Totally agree Dave.
Also I think Petrov has had a very good start to the season.
-
Its all about getting the balance right, but Petrov is not strong enough defensively to play with the attack minded players we have in midfield with him at the moment. Play with 3 in the middle and he'd be a good balance with a Bannan or Delph further forward, and someone doing what Reo Coker used to do, albeit a better version.
-
Is Heskeys pass rate still under 50% ?
-
Why do people deem necessary to create a thread when there is a perfectly fine one in place already . They can add thoughts on players and formation this season and follow progress. So can i ask poster why he created a petrov is not good enough thread? In fact he s been good this season. Anyway i continue debate on the villa players thread Why do people deem necessary to create a thread when there is a perfectly fine one in place already . They can add thoughts on players and formation this season and follow progress. So can i ask poster why he created a petrov is not good enough thread? In fact he s been good this season. Anyway i continue debate on the villa players thread
-
Its all about getting the balance right, but Petrov is not strong enough defensively to play with the attack minded players we have in midfield with him at the moment. Play with 3 in the middle and he'd be a good balance with a Bannan or Delph further forward, and someone doing what Reo Coker used to do, albeit a better version.
We've conceded one goal in three games so far. Admittedly against some fairly blunt attacks, but for the sort of game we're playing at the moment creativity is the issue. We've been defensively fairly solid.
-
For me Bannan and Ireland are options for the 3 supporting roles behind Bent, not the 2 sitting midfield roles, Makoun is the competition for Petrov and Delph and from what I saw of Jean II against Hereford he's not quite at the level of Delph and Petrov just yet. If Makoun joins Hogg and Young out the door another centre mid is absolutely crucial and if Hargreves is coming fine, but we'd need another one as well in case his legs go.
-
Yes OK but he is better than alternatives at the moment. May be later on this season we have Delph and Bannan dominating the midfield against all comers.
-
Petrov has been good so far this season he protects the back four with Delph but I still think we need to see Bannan play for his creativity with Heskey making way.
-
Petrov played well on Saturday.
-
im no great petrov fan but have been very impressed with him in the 3 games so far this season.
-
Is Heskeys pass rate still under 50% ?
4% and that's being kind.
-
Petrov needs midfield players to help him in midfield, not Emile Heskey.
-
I think Petrov has started the season in good form. I'd just like to see us playing a proper 4-4-2 with Heskey not in the team.
I reckon we'd be in the bottom 6 if we'd tried to play 4-4-2 with the players we have. I'd rather we used Bannan but there's nothing wrong with the formation.
As for Petrov, he's played well in every game so far and we need his knowledge and experience in the side.
Agree with all of that, Chris. The only thing to add is that Petrov obviously took very good care of himself over the summer and has come back fitter and a bit lighter.
-
I think Petrov has started the season in good form. I'd just like to see us playing a proper 4-4-2 with Heskey not in the team.
I reckon we'd be in the bottom 6 if we'd tried to play 4-4-2 with the players we have. I'd rather we used Bannan but there's nothing wrong with the formation.
As for Petrov, he's played well in every game so far and we need his knowledge and experience in the side.
Agree entirely. Bannan for Heskey is the only change I would like to see, but Heskey is in for his set piece ability defensively as much as anything else I am sure.
-
Ireland deserves fuck all. He should take his chances when they come along.
-
Petrov can take as much credit as anybody for our unbeaten start to the season. He has been consistently good giving the lie to comments I saw on here during the summer such as "He will never manage 90 minutes now" or "His legs have gone". Every team needs its Mr. Reliable, doing much of the spadework, linking play - not necessarily during the spectacular but as soon as they are off the pitch you often find the team can lose its way.
If the internet had been around years ago we would probably have had `Bremner not good enough` and `Carrodus not good enough` threads.
-
I am no fan of Petrov's but he wasn't the problem on Saturday. Heskey on the other hand. His total ineffectiveness is summed up by twice not even bothering to react to two crosses that Hennessy spilled in the box, any normal team would have predators on standby to put the ball in the net. When Bent crossed one of them himself (Dean Saunders anyone), Heskey wasn't even in the box.
-
I don't really see it. He's been decent enough so far this season. I'd definitely like a better player (hopefully one will come in) but he has certainly been one of our better performers so far this season.
I don't think a midfield of just Bannan and Delph would work. Both are good players but I can only see both of them together in a 3.
-
Petrov has had a good start to the season and is more than worth his place.
If Bannan is to get into the starting XI it will be at the expense of N'Zogbia, not Petrov.
-
Said before the game on Saturday that Petrov seems to add that little bit of stability that we need at the moment.
-
My only complaint about Petrov so far, is his once-a-game obligatory, "blast-it-towards-goal-from-30-yards-out" shot, that always injures somebody in the crowd. I really don't mind him taking it, but could he at least put on ON TARGET once in awhile? Even if it's right at the keeper, there's still a chance for a rebound or a flubb. Blasting it into the crowd does nothing but remove a spectator for next week. No wonder we're down to only 30,000 a game now.
-
Dennis Mortimer used to do exactly the same so now you know why our crowds were so low during the League winning season.
-
Have to agree with the majority here, Petrov deserves his place, on current form a midfield of Petrov and Delph behind Nzog, Bannan and Gabby seems to be the way to go with Bent up top on his own.
I think Heskey playing in the role that would be perfect for Bannan is the biggest problem at the minute as wee Barry is looking more and more like the player we've been missing for the last few years and seeing an ageing, non-threatening forward playing in 'the hole' instead of him is a bit galling.
-
Its all about getting the balance right, but Petrov is not strong enough defensively to play with the attack minded players we have in midfield with him at the moment. Play with 3 in the middle and he'd be a good balance with a Bannan or Delph further forward, and someone doing what Reo Coker used to do, albeit a better version.
We've conceded one goal in three games so far. Admittedly against some fairly blunt attacks, but for the sort of game we're playing at the moment creativity is the issue. We've been defensively fairly solid.
Also, going into Saturday's match Petrov had made more interceptions than any other player in the division. There will be sterner tests during the course of the season, but from what has happened so far, I agree that defending is not the problem.
-
Excellent is a bit strong. Competent perhaps.
Can we compromise on "pretty good" ?
-
Step forward the scapegoat for the 2011-12 season. He's been pretty close on several other occasions.
-
I can't remember the last time that I was happy with the centre of midfield, seems like for the last decade we have been 'soft' in there and teams have always been able to drive through the middle of us.
Petrov has started this season pretty well but I hope we will eventually replace him as captain and in the team.
-
Is Heskeys pass rate still under 50% ?
4% and that's being kind.
I am not good at maths but I think that is easily under 50%!
-
Excellent is a bit strong. Competent perhaps.
Excellent my arse
he was competent nithing more nothing less - pretty much the same as the past 2 seasons
- breaks up play on occasion
- nice 10 yard sideways passes
- sweaty
- totally uninspiring - not captain material
totally agree, competant is NOT what you want in a Captain.Inspirational is what you want, his goal scoring record is shite as well, give me Bannon or even Weimann with all that young energy anyday. Petrov is an average PL player...............Parker would have been a far better choice.Heskey needs to go as well, they have both had more than enough chances and they never seem to shine..........
-
Seeking to demonise Petrov seems like either blindness, denial or displacement to me.
Let's deal with the issues in some sort of priority-order rather than simply thrashing out at an easy target. The main priority, IMHO, is to build in some more creativity so that Bent and N'Zog, particularly, get released into more goal-scoring positions than they currently do. That means either BB, JIIM or Ireland becoming the third MF, behind Bent. Currently, it'd have to be BB.
Second priority is to secure the FB positions: I'm unconvinced by Warnock and not sure whether Herd is the answer to the RB position.
Third, defensive midfielder: we should accept that Petrov will increasingly become the 60-minute man that we saw last season - so, we definitely need an alternative. With NRC and Hogg gone, I don't see who will become the guy who breaks up opposition play and makes the interceptions that Petrov currently does well; and who gets the game going forward again with his space-finding passes (he does make them , you know!).
-
I have been to the three league games so far, and i don't get the 'lets lnock Petrov' sentiments. He has done a good job so far this season, it seems to me that 'fans' get enjoyment out of having a go at nearly every player that wears the Villa shirt.
-
Hei i created a thread so such thoughts on villa players could be discussed so can i point this out. Rather than creating a new thread check out forum rules which i have recently read.
Maybe we shud move this thread as it makes more sense to use my thread.
Your thread smells of wee.
-
Petrov isn't put in the team to create much. He is there to break the play up, put in the challenges, spread the ball. He is so underrated and I would absolutely hate to see the team without him at the moment. As much as I love Barry Bannan, I think putting him in in place of Petrov would prove a very very bad move.
-
totally agree, competant is NOT what you want in a Captain.Inspirational is what you want, his goal scoring record is shite as well, give me Bannon or even Weimann with all that young energy anyday.
So you think that instead of our experienced defensive midfielder you think we should put in either a young attacking midfielder or a young striker?
Do you watch much football?
-
Add me another to the camp that thinks Petrov has been good this season, he's certainly started in much better shape this season than last.
And we need his experience in there as without him it really is kids in central midfield. And Ireland.
-
Petrov in the last three games has been as good as anytime he's played for us. That's down to the fact we are much narrower now in our style which results in him being less exposed.
He's worth his place so far.
-
Petrov in the last three games has been as good as anytime he's played for us. That's down to the fact we are much narrower now in our style which results in him being less exposed.
He's worth his place so far.
Couldn't agree more.
-
Petrov in the last three games has been as good as anytime he's played for us. That's down to the fact we are much narrower now in our style which results in him being less exposed.
He's worth his place so far.
Couldn't agree more.
i agree he is also one of managers untouchables and will have a great season in the 2 of the 4-2-3-1
-
My random thoughts on Petrov:
* Petrov is an under rated player primarily because he plays deep and does a lot of the donkey work rather than making the final pass.
* He does needs to be in a 4231 or 433 as his legs are not what they were.
* Playing 442 would be suicide based on the players we have and the recent rule changes.
* Most players seem to be very supportive of Petrov as both a player and captain.
* Bannan is not a suitable replacement. He should be in heskey's place where he can learn his ropes in the centre of midfield.
* Like Modric, Bannan could maybe play this role once he has a few years experience.
* Regardless of the above I think CM or DMC (football manger speak) is a position McLeish should prioritise.
Based on Everton's financial troubles would a "swoop" for Fellani be a good idea?
He appears to have lost his way a bit at Everton but was once an excellent defensive midfielder at both Everton and S Liege. He'd also provide some height defensively so we could play Bannan rather than Heskey. I'd guess his wages would be reasonable too.
-
there really is no hope....Petrov tries hard enough but if you look up mediocre there is a picture of him.
just wait another 6 games when he starts to get tired and our defence comes up against a side with a bit more going for them upfront than Fulham, Blackburn and Wolves
-
He's been our best player so far this season. So he's currently 11th in line for the chop so far as I'm concerned.
-
I also said that Parker would be a much better choice...and yes i would rather have Bannon,are you telling me that he is incapable of breaking up play and making a 10 yard sideways pass?? add to that the fact he could actually last 90 mins and is likely to get far more goals than Petrov.....Petrov is a useful squad player much as NRC was, he is,IMHO not Captain material.........do I watch much football, well since my first matches were in the days of Rioch,Lockhead and the like I guess you could say i do.
-
He actually reminds me very much of Ray Wilkins....loads of international caps, rated very highly, but to my eyes never seemed to actually do very much but was an automatic choice for club and country. Then again, I could never see the appeal of 'God' Eric Clapton either. Each to their own I guess.
-
No argument from me, never been a fan, could never quite see what others did when describing some of his "excellent" form over the last two years. Garbage first two years he was with us, average at best since then. Won't take you too long to count the number of goals, assists and incisive creative passes he's contributed. We always needed better than him if our ambitions were top 4, although now I guess we are heading towards his level.
-
just wait another 6 games when he starts to get tired and our defence comes up against a side with a bit more going for them upfront than Fulham, Blackburn and Wolves
That's when the manager should have the nouse to use his subbs effectively, to counter Petrov's 6-minute syndrome.
-
Right now, we are in no position to criticise Petrov and should be glad we still have him.
-
Right now, we are in no position to criticise Petrov and should be glad we still have him.
I have been a sceptic from the start, possibly the biggest confidence trickster ever to wear a Villa shirt in the PL era.
The argument that he is now surrounded by several players who are equally inept is hardly a good one.
-
I'll tell you one thing.
He's a shit load better than Jermain Pissing Jenas.
-
I'll tell you one thing.
He's a shit load better than Jermain Pissing Jenas.
I agree.
-
I'll tell you one thing.He's a shit load better than Jermain Pissing Jenas.
I disagree. I think that Jenas could come right again with the right move. Petrov is simply laughing as he takes his wages.
-
I think Jenas is a very good player who hasn't been played enough, if he can find form we have a good player. Not entirely sure on Petrov, looked very good against bburn, only seen highlights of Fulham. On saturday I thought he looked particuarly slow and quite wasteful at times aswell
-
If Jenas was that good a player there is no way bacon face would have let him go.
He is using Villa as his shop window in the hope that he will have an okay season and then he can sell him.
-
Did'nt know were to put this so thought this would be the best place as he would've been a great replacement for Petrov eventually, anyway Guido Fofana, the U-21 French international captain that we were close to signing last january, signed for Lyon on deadline day for just £1m, I have a feeling his next move will be for atleast 10 times that amount and we'll regret not getting him when we had the chance.
-
I hope that Stan gets a hat-trick this evening; would keep a few of the doubters on this thread quiet
-
I hope that Stan gets a hat-trick this evening; would keep a few of the doubters on this thread quiet
Or even better, repeats what happened last time he played in a competitive match where Downing was in the opposition.
-
I hope that Stan gets a hat-trick this evening; would keep a few of the doubters on this thread quiet
Or even better, repeats what happened last time he played in a competitive match where Downing was in the opposition.
I'd love him forever.
-
I don't think Petrov is laughing as he gets his wages. I think he has proved his worth so far this season. He seemed unfit for art of last season, and it showed that Milner was carrying him before that. As he is sitting deep now he is in his comfort zone I think, but doubt we will probably ever see him score a goal again.
-
I hope that Stan gets a hat-trick this evening; would keep a few of the doubters on this thread quiet
Or even better, repeats what happened last time he played in a competitive match where Downing was in the opposition.
Great point; hadn't thought of that. Oh no, another 'reject' has scored for England. Come on, Stan, get your shooting boots on - think of 12/04/08.
-
Is he playing tonight?
Hes had one good season in 5.Jenas is a better player, lets hope he is dropped for him, and Banna/Ireland play.
-
How many times have you seen Jenas in the last 2 years?
-
Jenas is shit.
-
Hes had one good season in 5.Jenas is a better player, lets hope he is dropped for him, and Banna/Ireland play.
It's good to know that in his hiatus barrysleftfoot still doesn't know his arse from his elbow.
-
It could be my memory failing with old age but I think our form has slumped when Petrov has been out of the team. Could be wrong but I'd be interested to see a comparison of results with and without him. Evidence, evidence, evidence...
-
Petrov has been our best and most consistent player so far this season.He is definetly good enough to achieve the mid table mediocrity that we now strive for.
-
The worry I have is when he has been away on these double international weeks, plus the travelling, he seems to run out of steam half way through the following match for us. Hope AM keeps an eye on this and is prepared to replace him (would be a good start for Jenas to get half a game)
-
The worry I have is when he has been away on these double international weeks, plus the travelling, he seems to run out of steam half way through the following match for us. Hope AM keeps an eye on this and is prepared to replace him (would be a good start for Jenas to get half a game)
Jenas is not even fit to lace Petrov's boots.
-
Smart Arse yet againd Dave.......theres a surprise.
Look foward to your grovelling apology.
I have'nt seen much of Jenas in the last 2 years, granted, but from what i have seen i am confident that he will have a positive impact on us, IF he replaces Petrov.More mobile, better passer, more pace, on loan.....whats there not to like.
Did'nt know we was'nt able to have a differing view to you Dave, sorry about that.
-
Smart Arse yet againd Dave.......theres a surprise.
Look foward to your grovelling apology.
I have'nt seen much of Jenas in the last 2 years, granted, but from what i have seen i am confident that he will have a positive impact on us, IF he replaces Petrov.More mobile, better passer, more pace, on loan.....whats there not to like.
Did'nt know we was'nt able to have a differing view to you Dave, sorry about that.
You can hold whatever view you like. But if you think that Jenas is a better passer than Petrov then you are in for a shock.
-
Fair enough Dave.
-
If there was a football players top trumps I'm pretty sure Jenas would score higher than Petrov in most categories...
Age
Speed
Passing
Tackling
Shooting
Vision
...Petrov might win the leadership category.
On paper it would be a close call to be honest, but we havent seen him play in a Villa shirt yet so I think its best we all reserve judgement until after a few games.
-
we look weak without petrov!!he is our anchor and our only experienced central midfielder!!
-
Well Jenas has the advantage in that he looks like he can actually run, pass forwards occasionally and is willing to have a shot. And he probably doesn't sweat like a pervert in a playground either.
-
Loking at the stats for last season, Stan started 22 league games, from which we accrued a total of 31 points, i.e. 1.41 points per match. In the 16 games which he did not start we gained 17 points, an average of 1.06 points per match. That indicates that Stan starting league games resulted in a 33% improvement in points gained per match, a clear indication of his impact on results!
-
Bump. Brilliant goal today Stan; well done!
-
simply a magical goal. Well done Stan
-
Smashing goal.
He was still completely over-run today though. And I say that as a big supporter of Petrov and what he brings.
-
Good hit today from Stan. If you throw enough shit at a wall ,eventually some of it will stick.
Try and hit the target again some time soon.
-
Personally, I believe Petrov to be the key to our current team, I can't think of a single player that you could take out of the squad (excluding Given) that would have a worse impact than taking out Petrov.
A team is only as good as it's holding midfielder.
-
Personally, I believe Petrov to be the key to our current team, I can't think of a single player that you could take out of the squad (excluding Given) that would have a worse impact than taking out Petrov.
A team is only as good as it's holding midfielder.
Perhaps thats true - but thats a worrying indictment of our first 11
-
Great goal, but he was shit today. Let's not be blinded to that because of one good strike.
-
Apart from the magic goal, I also have appreciated him for the way he commanded the team and distributed the ball.
-
Lovely goal today but having started the season well petrov was well below par yesterday although he was far from the only one in that.
-
I have not much though. But I do think we need to replace Petrov and keep him for last 30 minutes when we need him, He might be able to do more in 30 minutes than 90 minutes. But we haven't found a suitable player for his position
-
Cracking goal but a mostly poor performance, I thought. He's played well in each of the previous games though, so I'm putting yesterday down to the fact he played a couple of international games last week.
Should he retire from the international scene, I think we'd really benefit these days.
-
a good goal doesnt change the my opinion that he is over-run too much, doesnt have any pace or mobility, is a ghost after 60+ minutes, and generally isnt up to the job...
-
Rate Delph highly but still showing imaturity. Petrov with Jenas will be much more dominant. And i am looking forward to seeing if i am right ............
-
Last time I saw him kick a ball like that was Derby
Hope we don`t wait that long again
-
I thought Petrov was okay all round yesterday, Being 'over-run' as some have suggested is not his problem: it was a problem with the Manager's set-up and the performance of others.
Also, EVerton's midfield was excellent and packed out.
-
Felliani would be a good replacement for Petrov. With Everton's money worries then I'd imagine he'd be gettable, it could just depend on what we have got available.
-
Apart from the magic goal, I also have appreciated him for the way he commanded the team and distributed the ball.
Agreed, Archie. Petrov tried his best to drive us forward yesterday, not something you see from him normally but during the second half he really stood up tall as our captain and kept the belief going.
-
Petrov is the best we have got in that position.
I cant believe the stick he gets.
-
Petrov can still hold his own IMO, but as a midfielder it kind of makes you wonder what Stephen Ireland is doing in training that he can't nudge himself into the side, I know he's a different style of player to Petrov but even so a good and determined player will break into a team and it is often the older players that start to step aside.
-
Apart from the magic goal, I also have appreciated him for the way he commanded the team and distributed the ball.
Agreed, Archie. Petrov tried his best to drive us forward yesterday, not something you see from him normally but during the second half he really stood up tall as our captain and kept the belief going.
That's just it. He tries his best, you can't fault him for his application, the thing is that his best isn't good enough for a team aiming for top 6 or even top 8. His heart is there, his legs just are not.
-
Lets look at the opta stats the on stan and wow look at this :
Stilyan Petrov has made more interceptions (16) than any other Premier League player.
CLEARLY GOOD ENUFF!! :D
-
You can look at all the opts stats you bloody like it ain't gonna make him any better.
He scored a good goal against everton but apart from that a few interceptions ain't gonna win us anything and this isn't me being arrogant I just feel his legs arnt on the same wavelength as his mind
-
We were totally overrun in midfield against Everton, it was quite embarrassing at times. He tries his best yes, but we are only ever going to be midtable with players like him a permanent fixture.
-
We were totally overrun in midfield against Everton, it was quite embarrassing at times. He tries his best yes, but we are only ever going to be midtable with players like him a permanent fixture.
That was more to do with the Everton set-up than player head-to-heads. They had more players in midfield - it's an issue we have faced for the last 2-3 years: playing wingers denudes the MF. I think McLeish will slowly address this as players like BB and GG come through as must-picks. Will Ireland also rise to the occasion? - doubt it, but I hope so.