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Title: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Michel Sibble on August 20, 2011, 05:00:12 PM
Legion, you are slacking...

Good performance against relegation fodder surely?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 20, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
Good stuff, all three strikers scored which was nice. Given injured again? Top of the league!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Irreverent ad on August 20, 2011, 05:03:41 PM
As i predicted in the pre-match thread, 3-1 and top of the league!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: eastie on August 20, 2011, 05:05:59 PM
top of the premiership! good solid display in defence , impressed with petrov, delph and nzogbia and goals for gabby , bent and heskey too, a good day at the office.

Great gabby goal and nice to see him play so well-good cameo from bannan as sub and well done to all, fans players and staff-enjoy your weekend guys!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 05:06:41 PM
SG 6
LY 6 (CC 6)
JC 7
RD 7
SW 7
SP 7
FD 8*
CN 7
EH 7 (BB 7)
GA 7 (MA 6)
DB 6
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: The Left Side on August 20, 2011, 05:07:32 PM
Well played, young team and lots of energy... Petrov looked like his old self and the defence looked solid even if it was Blackburn, all the strikers scored so a good day all around.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Summers on August 20, 2011, 05:08:18 PM
Gabby's goal was a bit special.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: D.boy on August 20, 2011, 05:09:43 PM
3 points and some well taken chances. Job done.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: citizenDJ on August 20, 2011, 05:10:37 PM
Watched this one in the pub and although I've had a few pints, I'd say that we looked very comfortable for most of the game - the first half especially.

Delph looked very good again, while I'm giving credit to McLeish for playing a formation which really suits Petrov at this stage of his career. Excellent goal from Gabby, Bent did what Bent does, N'Zogbia looked very handy and Bannan, when he came on, was top stuff.

A pretty good performance overall, but I will temper the praise just a little because Blackburn were crap.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Dave on August 20, 2011, 05:10:37 PM
Good shift from Gabby, N'Zogbia, Delph and Petrov.

Heskey scoring today doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't be playing as an attacking midfielder.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on August 20, 2011, 05:11:08 PM
Hard to know what to make of it having won against a truly dreadful Rovers team.  I remember getting carried away after beating West Ham 3-0 last year only for them to go down and us nearly join them.  Still, a good and much needed 3 points and a good game for Gabby and Delph.  Wolves will provide a much sterner test though so we will have to be on our game.  Bannan look a good player, hopefully he will come in to the 1st 11 b4 too long.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Summers on August 20, 2011, 05:12:23 PM
Good shift from Gabby, N'Zogbia, Delph and Petrov.

Heskey scoring today doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't be playing as an attacking midfielder.

A point worth highlighting. Heskey had a good game, but it's not a good role for him. Especially with Bannan and Ireland getting splinters.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: citizenDJ on August 20, 2011, 05:13:33 PM
Heskey scoring today doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't be playing as an attacking midfielder.

Agreed, wholeheartedly. I had named Ireland in my pre-match line up, but after today I'm convinced Bannan should be given the attacking midfielder role.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 05:13:40 PM
I'd love Bannan in that position. But Heskey's energy and commitment were vital to our early supremacy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Monty on August 20, 2011, 05:14:11 PM
The team and opening exchanges left a lot of worry. However, this was soon tempered by the quality of Petrov and Delph on the ball, and Eck's selection of Gabby on the left (which I know I backed last week, but I don't know who else did) was vindicated as Gabby did what he does best, and has space to do on the wing - pick up the ball in the final third and run at the defence, making them shit themselves. Despite his goal, Heskey still showed why he should probably not start, and you can't help but feel that Bannan or Ireland in the first half would have had better first touches in crucial situations. Eck made the change, and Bannan really looked the part when he came on, linking really nicely with Zog and Delph, and involved in the period of possession that preceeded the Bent goal. I hope Eck noticed this, especially if he wants us to play the stylish possession football we did at times later in the game.

We conceded a goal that was good from their point of view, but possibly preventable, and we perhaps dropped off and sat back at the end, but after we went 3-1 up they never looked like getting anything and some of the football was good, especially, as I say, when Bannan was on the field. Good win, good basis to build on, and may Eck carry on proving me wrong!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 20, 2011, 05:15:38 PM
Great game and good to see quality link up play from the team even if some of the chances we created went wayward. Hope we can maintain the run!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 20, 2011, 05:16:36 PM
Gabby was back to his best first half, back to how he was when he got that hat trick v Man City.

Delph was class, plenty of energy, effort & got stuck in, he just needs to cut down the rash tackles.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: KevinGage on August 20, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
The season is officially up and underway.

4 points from 2 games should ease the pressure somewhat on Big Eck.

Blackburn are dire.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: asgpaul on August 20, 2011, 05:20:06 PM
Stating the obvious but you can only beat who's put in front of you, and we did that well.  Was impressed with Delph today, possibly his best game yet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: hilts_coolerking on August 20, 2011, 05:21:28 PM
We put away a poor side, as we should have done.  Goals shared around will do the confidence some good.  Need to tighten up at the back because better sides than Blackburn will give us problems.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 20, 2011, 05:23:04 PM
Pleased with that. 
Did young go off injured?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Dave on August 20, 2011, 05:25:50 PM
Pleased with that. 
Did young go off injured?
He ran off quite happily, so I can only assume it was a precautionary thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: BILL DE VALL on August 20, 2011, 05:26:43 PM
Great result
Bannan has to play next match
Given's groin is fucked-hope he gets better soon
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Summers on August 20, 2011, 05:28:15 PM
Probably just nursing a pull, so if Collins can take some goalkicks to stop Given potentially making it worse, it's worth it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Sarunyu on August 20, 2011, 05:29:16 PM
Blackburn is not in the shape for today. Losing Samba is big impact to them in term of defender.

Good to see Gabby score the 1st goal like that. IMO all work quite OK again the poor side.

Anyway the midfield and forward is still have more to do in term of connection. If we face the strong side we need to be more control in the ball.

Cheer,

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: ktvillan on August 20, 2011, 05:30:11 PM
Very satisfactory win and performance. I suppose all it really tells is that we are better than a rather poor Blackburn side, but you can only beat what's put in front of you and we did that comfortably.  I was disappointed with the selection but I suppose the best retort to that is that. on the day at least,  it worked.  And it looks like Eck at least wants to try and play some  passing football, which is encouraging. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Sarunyu on August 20, 2011, 05:35:43 PM
By the way we are TOP of the Table. :-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Brian Taylor on August 20, 2011, 05:36:28 PM
Excellent stuff..congrats all round. Let's do the same to, allegedly, better opposition next time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Tuscans on August 20, 2011, 05:39:01 PM
A complete contrast compared to the Fulham game. Players looked fit, quick, full of ideas, movement and what really stood out for me...CONFIDENCE! Which must go down to Mcleish.

Given - (7) - Can' t remember him really being tested. Safest hands in the Premiership in my opinion and nothing he could do with the goal.

Young - (7) Solid and reliable, and looking to support N'Zog at all times. Came off for Clarke after knock.

Collins - (8 ) Didn't look Welsh today and oozed confidence. Very similar in regards to Laursen when it comes to headers and always threw his body at the ball.

Dunne - (8 ) I've knocked him in the past but he was very steady today and made some very good tackles. Wish he would stop the long ball all the time though, he can't pass.

Warnock - (7) Gave the ball away twice within the first 4 mins but got more and more into the game and looked solid. Just wish he wouldn't dive into tackles so much.

N'Zog - (8 ) Really good home debut, neat on the ball, nice touches and always wanted to drive forward. I really think once he's settled in we wont miss Downing or Young if this guy keeps it up.

Petrov - (8 ) I really doubted him this season but what a change. His legs looked bionic and he had pace and drive to his play. Didn't do that whole "sit in front of the back four" thing and really wanted to be positive in passing the ball forward quickly to Bent.

Delph- (9 ) Man of the Match in my opinion. A little bit of headless chicken in the first 5 mins but grew and grew. Always wanted to receive the ball from defense and looking to jink past players, passing and moving forward. Made some really good tackles and looks the player we first bought. Hope he stays fit all season as we have a potential gem.

Agbonlahor - ( 9) Would of been my Man of the Match if he continued that in the second half but unfortunately took 2 knocks and came off at half time. Actually looked a real winger today, use of both feet, running with the ball at every opportunity and WOW what a goal. If Rooney scored that then Hansen and co. would be sucking his ginger balls right now. Brilliant stuff Gab.

Heskey - (8 ) I worried with him in the team we we're just going to pump long balls to him all day but he really puts in a shift and did a lot of donkey work which we know he does well. Yea, slight slip with the goal but it was a nice finish in the bottom corner even though Robinson looked like he had a touch of the De Gea's by being a little slow to dive. Fab attitude from Emile though.

Bent - ( 8 ) He looked completely starved of anything against Fulham last week but he kept moving on the shoulder of the last man and maybe could of had 2 or 3. We have one of the most prolific goal scorers in the league and he's literally scoring a goal every 2 opportunities. Full of movement and very happy we have him.

Albrighton on for Agbonlahor. Looked nervous at first and struggled to get into the game but kept trying and done an ok job wide right.

Clarke on for Young. Went to left back with Warnock shifting to right back and looked every inch a full back. Got forward supported N'Zog well.

Bannan on for Heskey. Best of the subs by far. Always after the ball, first touch and gone, moves into space and keeps possession like a Xavi or Iniesta. He really looks a find and surely must play a lot more this season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 20, 2011, 05:49:38 PM
Agreed Tuscans.  I though Bannan added an extra dimension to villa's play.  Whilst we lost a bit of grunt and athleticism when Heskey went off I though Bannan played that hole role much better.  Much more comfortable dropping deep and receiving the ball making it a bit more of a 433.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: ez on August 20, 2011, 05:51:18 PM
Another 36 points and we'll be safe  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Rigadon on August 20, 2011, 05:59:25 PM
Solid for the most part.  Gabby's goal was top drawer and worth the ticket.

Thanks to the utter, utter COCK in the seat next to me who moaned at every single misplaced pass and was calling our manager a Blue-nosed wanker for 90 minutes - you sir, are a cnut.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: olaftab on August 20, 2011, 06:05:25 PM
Warm afternoon at VP today  and a warm display by the team. Yes Bburn are rubbish but we still had to beat them.
This is probably the first time I have agreed with match sponsor's MotM. Yes Delph  was outstanding.  We struggled at the start of the second half but subs helped. Bannan is class and you could see the difference of  added composure is our play when he came on.
Very disappointed with the low turnout .  I know it's  holiday time etc but only 32K?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: KRS on August 20, 2011, 06:07:02 PM
Surely we wont be on last on MOTD tonight?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: olaftab on August 20, 2011, 06:12:08 PM
No we will be just before Swansea v Wigan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: hartman_1982 on August 20, 2011, 06:25:00 PM
Brilliant first half, with Gabby at his best. I thought Delph ran the show and this will be his year. A sloppy first fifteen minutes of the second half but we looked comfortable after the third. Given took goal kicks with his left foot all game and he was definitely still nursing his groin.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: ozzjim on August 20, 2011, 06:28:17 PM
Thought they all did well but there are issues. Warnock diving in cost us a goal, stay on your feet should be whipped into him until he is begging for his life, the stupid, stupid man.

The centre of the park is like a great chasm for sides to walk through. Delph did well, and so did Petrov at times, but we were wide open too much.

Good finishing though, and a decent display. Would like to see NZogbia given the Gabby role if he is not fit next week, with Albrighton down the right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: CJ on August 20, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
Just back. I predicted 3-1 but didn't have the right scorers!

Initial thoughts - solid all round performance although we again started the 2nd half poorly. Good to see all 3 strikers score. Heskey did well while he was on and took his goal well but I thought we had much more energy when wee Barry played in that role. Defence pretty solid. Concern that at times there seemed to be huge gaps between defence and attack but having said that Petrov and Delph played the best I've seen them for a while. Gabby took his goal brilliantly, DB9 does what he does best, and we started to see some of N'Zog's skill. Concern about Gabby, Heskey and Young going off with knocks (presumably ?). And also Shay clearly has an injury as Collins ended up taking goal kicks.

Blackburn are a poor side and wouldn't be at all surprised to see Kean as the first manager to get the push this year and/or for them to go down. Walking back to the car I overheard a Blackburn supporter describing Steve Kean as 'wank' and added 'but who would want to take over that shower of players - maybe Martin O'Neill'.

The only thing that was worse than Blackburn today was the ref. I thought we had a stonewall penalty when Robinson flattened Gabby but haven't seen a replay yet. And the inconsistency in bookings was appalling - how David Dunn and Hoilett stayed on the pitch let alone not get yellow cards was mystifying when we seemed to pick up yellows for pretty innocuous first time fouls.

And I have to say it - for them I thought Formica covered a lot of ground but Goodwillie was a bit limp up front.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 20, 2011, 06:35:57 PM
Lots of positives.
Yes Blackburn were poor but you can only beat what is put in front of you, and we beat them very well. Without two enforced substitutions we could easily have done them for five.
The ref was bloody awful. 3 yellow cards each of which was more ridiculous than the last. Do some officials think if they get towards the hour mark with no cards they have to start dishing them out to reach their match quota ? The only palyer who should have been booked was David Dunn for persistent twatishness.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Ads on August 20, 2011, 06:44:07 PM
Thought they all did well but there are issues. Warnock diving in cost us a goal, stay on your feet should be whipped into him until he is begging for his life, the stupid, stupid man.

The centre of the park is like a great chasm for sides to walk through. Delph did well, and so did Petrov at times, but we were wide open too much.

Good finishing though, and a decent display. Would like to see NZogbia given the Gabby role if he is not fit next week, with Albrighton down the right.

It was Young and Albrighton who went to ground, not Warnock.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: ozzjim on August 20, 2011, 06:55:15 PM
Was it? I saw a player fly on the floor and automatically thought Warnock had been pulled across. My statement still stands. Add them to my stay on the feet whipping session too please! Only Mark Delaney could tackle better on his arse than his feet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Brian Taylor on August 20, 2011, 07:02:54 PM
Top as long as Baggies keep Chelski under thumb..cum on you Baggies.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 20, 2011, 07:05:35 PM
I would prefer Chelsea to beat WBA, as I would imagine we'll be closer to WBA than Chelsea at the end of the season.

Well.............. maybe..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: KRS on August 20, 2011, 07:07:31 PM
Chelski need to score 2 more to go top?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: brice jovial on August 20, 2011, 07:11:32 PM
Given 7
Young6.5 (Clark 7)
Warnock 7.5
Dunne 7
Collins 7.5
N'Zogbia 7.5
Delph 8.5
Petrov 7.5
Bent 8
Agbonlahor 8 (Albrighton 7)
Heskey 7.5 (Bannan8)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: tarzansbrother on August 20, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
Thought they all did well but there are issues. Warnock diving in cost us a goal, stay on your feet should be whipped into him until he is begging for his life, the stupid, stupid man.

The centre of the park is like a great chasm for sides to walk through. Delph did well, and so did Petrov at times, but we were wide open too much.

Good finishing though, and a decent display. Would like to see NZogbia given the Gabby role if he is not fit next week, with Albrighton down the right.

It was Young and Albrighton who went to ground, not Warnock.

Warnock had a very good game. His tackling was excellent as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 20, 2011, 07:31:27 PM
Chelsea 2 Baggies 1.
We are top of the league in the sunday morning papers. ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Michel Sibble on August 20, 2011, 07:37:04 PM
Confident first half with Gabby trying his luck and scoring one.
Defence look reliably solid for the first time.
Heskey scoring was a bonus (probably reflects badly on B'burn)
2nd half threatened to become "same old, same old" with B'burn scoring.
Bent doing what he does naturally, securing the game.
Hometown refereeing (that town however, in the North West) as usual.
MarkyMark with a bit of composure will do better, he risked the game once too many with his tackles.
Bannan put in a shift.
Zogballs looking good.
McLeish looking calm. Kean looking over his shoulder.
Crowd resembling Aston Hall at night-time.
Good 3 points.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: gaucho1966 on August 20, 2011, 07:39:43 PM
Very weird seeing the team come out after half time and nobody clapping for ages. First time I've ever seen it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2011, 07:47:18 PM
We played some lovely stuff at times, but Blackburn were truly woeful, I doubt we will play anyone as bad as them again this season. We did seem to start each half slowly, which against a better side could be costly, especially how slowly we started the second half. Thank fuck Bent scored when he did as we were looking second best at the time.
After all the doom and gloom over playing Heskey and Gabby, both were very good today, the Gabby goal was awesome. Just hope his injury isn't too bad.

Special mention to the ref, who was a bit of twat. His booking of Villa players making their first fouls while ignoring the constant Blackburn fouling was annoying to say the least.

A pretty poor attendance I thought, although the Brigada boys seemed to have fun in the corner of the Lower Holte with their two-sticks. Blackburn away support continues to be wank, 500-600 max, although singing "empty seats my lord" at them did make me cringe considering how many empty seats there were in all the other stands.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: woody4866 on August 20, 2011, 07:48:53 PM
considering it was the 1st home game and the lads put a good shift in (yes even Heskey) I thought the crowd was very dissapointing - very poor atmosphere IMO >:(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Tony on August 20, 2011, 07:52:27 PM

The only thing that was worse than Blackburn today was the ref. I thought we had a stonewall penalty when Robinson flattened Gabby but haven't seen a replay yet. And the inconsistency in bookings was appalling - how David Dunn and Hoilett stayed on the pitch let alone not get yellow cards was mystifying when we seemed to pick up yellows for pretty innocuous first time fouls.


David Dunn surely gets the Mark Van Bommel award for not getting booked despite serial twatishness.

The penalty incident, a penalty would have been harsh as from where I was sat Gabby seemed to foul their defender, after that though, there was no way Gabby was fouling the keeper, very bizarre decision from the ref, although I suppose this may have evened out Gabby's initial foul.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: gaucho1966 on August 20, 2011, 07:53:25 PM
I was very pleased today. It was nice to be confident about Clark coming on. Thought he did well. Blackburn were woeful though. Might put £20 on them being relegated.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 20, 2011, 07:54:22 PM
First half was good at times, Gabby's goal was a corker. 

First 20 minutes of the second half a real worry.  Blackburn were on top at that point and they are one of the worst teams i've seen in the prem.  After Bent scored we settled down.

Delph looked good, composed and full of energy.  I think Zog looked promising, plenty of pace and direct.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: brian green on August 20, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Just home.   Random impressions.   Blackburn were poor and will struggle this season but you can only beat what is put in front of you.   Gabby's goal worth the journey.   Barry Bannan a star in the making and when we sell him to Man City for 20 million the perceived standard wisdom will be that he is not worth it because he is too small.   Double plus there because not only did BB change the tempo of the game it showed that AM knows how to make incisive substitutions.   Impressed with Collins.   Zog showed in flashes but clearly is not match fit.  Delph justified MOTM selection.   Heskey laboured at the coal face and mined some nuggets in his normal output of assorted rubble.   Shame to see Marc Albrighton struggling to find his touch an uncomfortable mix of ball watching punctuated by rash tackles.

Good performance all round but sterner tests await.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: eric woolban woolban on August 20, 2011, 08:09:07 PM
If the away team had bought their full contingent the crowd would have been 35.5k / 36k.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: CT on August 20, 2011, 08:26:51 PM
Reminded me very much of W Ham at home last season. They looked like relegation fodder too!

That's not meant to take anything from us though - I thought we put in a really good shift.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 20, 2011, 08:30:13 PM
Very happy. Good performance, when we got going (I think in both halves it took us a while).

Fabian Delph was very good - though with the amount of sliding challenges he did, we'll be losing him through yellow and red cards throughout the season.

I'm normally first to criticise Petrov, but he had a good game, helped by him knowing that Delph was holding the midfield, allowing him more opportunity to go forward.

Gabby was looking good, with his energy he can always play like that.

I know people criticise Heskey (and I'm one of them), but I think the reason AM plays him in this position is because he does have a high work ethic and he closes others down a lot and making himself available. With a better first touch he may have had 2 goals. I think, if Bannan, as he showed he can do today, or Ireland put in the work rate of Heskey, then they'd start instead of him. Bannan looks like he will, and we'd be a much better team for him playing. Not so sure Ireland would be up for it though.

Only Blackburn, but we were comfortable and I look forward to hearing a positive result from the game next week (I'm in Rome so miss the match - boooooo!!!)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: wombat on August 20, 2011, 08:35:34 PM
Blackburn 7/4 for relegation. I'm having a tenner tomorrow! Awful.

You've got to beat what is put in front of you and we did quite easily.

Which was nice.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on August 20, 2011, 08:36:43 PM
An interesting game. We started both halves too slowly but finished both playing some intelligent passing football. Collins and Dunne were dominant defensively and Heskey and Gabby both played better than I was expecting in their withdrawn attacking roles. N'Zogbia oozed class at times, Delph and Petrov did well in centre mid. Four points is a good start with Wolves coming up next.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: GJH on August 20, 2011, 08:47:39 PM
Long way to go yet! Thought we had a good start last year 3-0 against West Ham, 2 great results though, perfect start for Mcleish.

Need to hammer Hereford and beat the Wolves and see where we are after that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Witton Warrior on August 20, 2011, 09:01:47 PM
The lad and I thoroughly enjoyed today.

Thought we would run up a big score after 25 mins but Heskey hasn't got a left foot and we went off the boil at times.

We decided to watch Fabian and, unsurprisingly, The Zog and were not disappointed as both were very good.
The reception of Zogs second half piece of skill bodes well for his relationship with us fans.

Ref was a cock!

Clarke came on and was impressive I thought, Bannan injected immediate pace to the passing and Marc just needs to focus all that energy and he will be fine.

Bent is a killer...

Blackburn look doomed already. Can we buy Pederson just to stop him scoring good goals against us?

We (the crowd) seemed quite subdued at times... 
Welcome to Alec was OK, that is another relationship that is building





Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: gervilla on August 20, 2011, 09:06:51 PM
I've just seen Gabbys goal on the net, superb. Good result , hopefully we can keep the momentum going while we have a handy run of fixtures. Get points on the board now before we face some of the big boys.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on August 20, 2011, 09:14:32 PM
Good performamce against a poor side. Should be good for building the confidence.

They have fixed the tannoy system in the Holte - my ears are ringing for the claret and blue !!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Good professional perfomance overall, Delph and Petrov were very good, Bannan impresses me everytime i see him, i love watching him. I mentioned Salgado being the weak link in the pre-match thread and Gabby exposed it, we missed him when he went off.

The ref was inconsistently crap and in the Holte Upper, we've gone from having the poorest tannoy in the Prem, to at times, the ear splittingly loudest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: john e on August 20, 2011, 09:22:06 PM
To be honest I don't give a toss about how bad Blackburn were,
we have struggled to beat poor sides at Villa Park in the recent past, if we are going to improve under AM then it's against these sort of teams where we ought to start
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2011, 09:22:25 PM
Post match interview

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2011, 09:24:55 PM
Heskey goal

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: TheBarneyArmy on August 20, 2011, 09:25:33 PM
Good 3 points against relegation fodder, my brother-in-law (who is a staunch rovers fan) is convinced rovers will go down so I'm not getting too excited just yet as they seem a very poor outfit. 

Need to follow it up with a good performances against Hereford and Wolves.  It'll be great to see MOTD show the league table tonight even though it is early days.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2011, 09:26:43 PM
Dodgy quality video of Gabby's goal.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2011, 09:33:44 PM
Mcleish really does sound pleased to be managing us, it's nice to hear.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 20, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
Just watched Gabby's goal, reminded me of AY at his best:-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Arsey on August 20, 2011, 09:37:32 PM
Post match interview



In fairness, he does seem a decent chap.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Arsey on August 20, 2011, 09:38:52 PM
I wa
Just watched Gabby's goal, reminded me of AY at his best:-)

I was thinking exactly the same thing watching the goal again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: gervilla on August 20, 2011, 09:40:25 PM
Just watched Gabby's goal, reminded me of AY at his best:-)

Who ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: darren woolley on August 20, 2011, 09:41:46 PM
Really pleased thought we played really well today long may it continue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: gaucho1966 on August 20, 2011, 09:41:58 PM
Post match interview



In fairness, he does seem a decent chap.

"ai proud moment for him and his family." I bet he hasn't had many of them over the past couple of years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on August 20, 2011, 09:42:32 PM
They have fixed the tannoy system in the Holte - my ears are ringing for the claret and blue !!

Christ, yes! I thought it was just me who found it deafening!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Lizz on August 20, 2011, 09:43:52 PM
It's a family tradition that I take my mom to the first home game of the season. Even she could tell Blackburn were poor. Listening to Jason Roberts on 6-0-6 he thought it was a pretty even game. Not how I saw it.

Out of curiosity, given I wasn't wearing my glasses and my eyesight's not brilliant, was Luke Young's name on his shirt showing as L Young, and if so why, now that Ashley's gone?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: gaucho1966 on August 20, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
They have fixed the tannoy system in the Holte - my ears are ringing for the claret and blue !!

Christ, yes! I thought it was just me who found it deafening!

Some guy in front of me in the Lower Holte was screaming and gesticulating for the volume to turned down.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Irish villain on August 20, 2011, 09:46:24 PM
I watched the highlights on Irish tv earlier and we looked pretty decent. Bent's typical poacher's finish while Gabby showed real class for his goal.

By the way, when will we see Bent score at the Holte End?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: eamonn on August 20, 2011, 09:47:45 PM
Heskey laboured at the coal face and mined some nuggets in his normal output of assorted rubble.   

Fantastic.
You should be in Brian Glanville's job.

Not sure I wholly (wholely?) agree with what appears to be the common consensus that Blackburn are utter muck. They started off the game quite lively, and for the first 15 minutes of the second half were in the ascendancy. Well-worked goal too.

We scored each of our goals at crucial times, doing enough to keep them at arms length.

I drifted off from watching the game after Bent's goal cos I was chatting to a girl I think I'm in love with on facebook.
I think we did alright though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: swiss1968 on August 20, 2011, 09:53:37 PM
Regarging the Holte tannoy system,couple of chaps with laptop's and noise detector's checking such tanoy,went up to 95 dec on the mic ,ouch i thought . Lol.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Dazvillain on August 20, 2011, 09:57:20 PM
Blackburn were poor, i dont think there will many worse than that at VP this year, but you can only beat whats in front of you. Many better perfromances than against Fulham last week. Would love a couple of more signings though, too get us through to January
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2011, 10:00:17 PM
nice to get the first win of the season out of the way, and with two very decent defensive performances in the first couple of games. Took a look back through the first few pages of the match thread. Some people really need to give the team a chance to settle down and play. You'd think we were 3-0 inside 10 minutes reading what one or two were saying. This will be a good morale boost to the club heading into an important week. Give some of the lads like Given, Gabby, Heskey, Stan and Dunney a breather, and bring in the likes of Makoun, Bazza, Ireland, Clark. Fonz and Marco to take care of Hereford. We'll need a good effort next week to take care of the dogheads.

Well done AM. Enjoy your Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: luke25 on August 20, 2011, 10:01:11 PM
Don't think its been said yet but you can only beat whats put in front of you.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
the black socks looked ace
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Irish villain on August 20, 2011, 10:17:38 PM
TV, that's why I have tried to avoid posting during games this season. I had been developing an annoying habbit of posting stuff as it came into my head! I'm a very nervy follower of villa so that was a disaster! As such, i can sympathise with those who furiously post harsh comments on the match thread.... they are just nervous for us!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
TV, that's why I have tried to avoid posting during games this season. I had been developing an annoying habbit of posting stuff as it came into my head! I'm a very nervy follower of villa so that was a disaster! As such, i can sympathise with those who furiously post harsh comments on the match thread.... they are just nervous for us!

yeh, I know. We all get a little bit of trigger finger when watching the games. For that reason I've made a vow to stay away from the keyboard in the first 15 minutes of a game. Might be hard to do, but I figure there's little point in getting too carried away, positively or negatively too early in a game. I just think in some of today's posts there were one or two who had it in their heads that AM could only play a certain way. They were proved very wrong in the end. Sometimes it's better to see how things develop before passing judgement.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Apyadg on August 20, 2011, 10:28:18 PM


I'm glad it wans't just me. It wasn't just loud, it was ear-splitting painfully loud. How fucking hard can it be to sort out a PA system. They've been tinkering with it for years and if anything, it's got even worse.

Was it ok in other areas of the gound, because if so, I'd consider just not sitting in the Holte until it's sorted, it was painful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Irish villain on August 20, 2011, 10:32:49 PM
True TV, but some of us are wired a little differently. Patience is a virtue and I for one wish I had a little bit more of it!
I think today shows we have the makings of a decent side and unlike last season, there's a sense of calm authority at the club. Last season anything was possible. If we continue in this vein, the posts on the match thread will also quieten down a bit to as fans get used to our abilities.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: ROBBO on August 20, 2011, 11:54:46 PM
Positives: There seems to be a happier squad at Villa Park these days, a really good team spirit. N'Zog will be a Villa hero, Gabby was the best he's been for a long time,Bannan on the ball is fantastic.
Negatives: Delph played well but should stay on his feet and not dive in so much, Bannon without the ball cannot defend, Albrighton ? and we played an under strength poor side. Two more quality players like N'Zog and we could shake the top four. Are you reading this Randy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: TheSandman on August 20, 2011, 11:57:37 PM
I thought Gabby's goal was brilliant. For the past few months we've seen a man who was a shadow of his former self so it was good to hear how well he performed today.

Also pleasing were excellent games from Delph and Petrov.

Blackburn maybe shit and the result expected but the players can draw confidence from this and keep up to the high standard they set today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Tony on August 21, 2011, 12:01:32 AM
Positives: There seems to be a happier squad at Villa Park these days, a really good team spirit. N'Zog will be a Villa hero, Gabby was the best he's been for a long time,Bannan on the ball is fantastic.
Negatives: Delph played well but should stay on his feet and not dive in so much, Bannon without the ball cannot defend, Albrighton ? and we played an under strength poor side. Two more quality players like N'Zog and we could shake the top four. Are you reading this Randy.

We lost Gabby and Luke Young to injury, we were under strength too, we did well, the kids did well, even Albrighton who some seem ready to give up on, he was close to scoring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Aston Manor on August 21, 2011, 12:15:10 AM
I don't know. Sometimes you think you've seen a totally different game. Also, I'm in post MOTD mood after having a few beers so maybe I'm too critical...but...I thought Delph was only okay. Gave away possession too easily too often and was n't as busy, with as much quality, as I'd expect.

Like west ham last season  they were poor. I thought we looked poor, cumbersome, and slightly lop-sided in the first-half and yet we went in two goals up. Against a better team I think we may have struggled.

finally,I thought our bookings probably were i just can't understand why Blackburn's players avoided the book for most of the game.

Oh, and I think those who think Albrighton is a good enough replacement for Young or Downing are seeing a different player to me.Ttbrough my ever so slightly inebriated eyes. After enjoying a night out post villa win...long may it continue...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: BC54 VFC on August 21, 2011, 12:15:42 AM

Was it ok in other areas of the gound, because if so, I'd consider just not sitting in the Holte until it's sorted, it was painful.

No it wasn't; I sit nine rows back in the Lower Doug Ellis, and halfway between halfway line and edge of Holte End penalty area - it was very tinny and you couldn't make out a thing other than 'man of the match' and 'Fabian Delph' at the end.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Archie on August 21, 2011, 12:36:15 AM
top of the premiership! good solid display in defence , impressed with petrov, delph and nzogbia and goals for gabby , bent and heskey too, a good day at the office.

Great gabby goal and nice to see him play so well-good cameo from bannan as sub and well done to all, fans players and staff-enjoy your weekend guys!

Agree, apart from Richard Dunne that was unwatchable as usual. He conceded one  goal to an unmarked Pedersen and a similar occasion in the 1st half.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Caiphus on August 21, 2011, 01:04:46 AM
We allowed Blackburn to transition from defence to attack too easily and were lucky that they are pretty toothless: our possession stats were pretty good, but they had almost as many shots-on-goal as we did.  Refereeing was pretty one sided, as far as I was concerned we should of gotten a penalty for what was deemed a foul by Gabby on Robinson.  Robinson climbed Gabby's hamstring with his studs which led to him having to be subbed off.

Delph, Albrighton and Bannan have youthful exuberance but need to be reamed out for diving into challenges needlessly.  Otherwise they were all pretty bright looking I thought.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Neil Hawkes on August 21, 2011, 10:07:56 AM
On a very positive note, look at the positioning of Benty for Heskeys' goal.

The man is a predator and as long as we have at least a few balls in the box, per game, I don't think we'll see many scoreless games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: brice jovial on August 21, 2011, 10:09:08 AM
Well in this 4-2-3-1 formation Ive particuarly enjoyed petrovs play. He seemes again v balckburn acustomed to role.
I like to think each passing game delph and him will grow strenth to strenght. Delph also plays comfortable in the 2
and looking forward to the 3 ahead , whoever selected, to provide goals creativity and attacking content.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: LeeB on August 21, 2011, 10:11:44 AM
From the footage on MOTD, it seems someone has finally got through to Gabby about having a dig when coming in off the left.

It makes him much more of a threat, and could actually be his best position. The finish was sublime, and it's something that's he's bought into his game over the last couple of seasons, even through his lack of form last season I noticed he seemed to be developing something of a cultured right foot.

He's still improving, if he can find his form again then we will have an extremely potent strikeforce.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 21, 2011, 10:14:10 AM
Also, maybe McLeish is testing to see if Gabby can play there as we need more cover in wide positions & he'll find it hard to oust Bent as the number 9.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: LeeB on August 21, 2011, 10:20:16 AM
Also, maybe McLeish is testing to see if Gabby can play there as we need more cover in wide positions & he'll find it hard to oust Bent as the number 9.

Yes, it pays to have players who are versatile, especially if you happen to be trimming the wage bill.

Gabby just looked happier out there though, as though he'd had the shackles taken off him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Monty on August 21, 2011, 10:37:23 AM
I supported playing Gabby wide under GH and when Eck did it in pre-season, because to me his best attribute is when he can receive the ball in space and run at defenders, and from wide left there are two crucial advantages: firstly it's less congested than in the centre, so we can manouvre him space when we're attacking, not just when we're counter-attacking (where he's also useful); secondly, running in from the left means he's running onto his strongest foot, as we saw with the goal and another good shot yesterday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: CJ on August 21, 2011, 11:10:19 AM
We allowed Blackburn to transition from defence to attack too easily and were lucky that they are pretty toothless: our possession stats were pretty good, but they had almost as many shots-on-goal as we did.  Refereeing was pretty one sided, as far as I was concerned we should of gotten a penalty for what was deemed a foul by Gabby on Robinson.  Robinson climbed Gabby's hamstring with his studs which led to him having to be subbed off.

Delph, Albrighton and Bannan have youthful exuberance but need to be reamed out for diving into challenges needlessly.  Otherwise they were all pretty bright looking I thought.

Agree with the penalty -  thought it was pretty nailed on but still haven't seen a replay (MOTD didn't show it). I thought Gabby was injured by a tackle from Hoilett - one of 3 fouls he committed in as many minutes but which the one-eyed ref chose not to award a yellow card.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Clampy on August 21, 2011, 11:21:42 AM
None of the Villa bookings were any worse than the Blackburn challenges, it was ridiculous. As for the pen, if it was'nt a pen, then it definatley was'nt a free kick.

The F.A like to fast-track ref's like Attwell thinking they're decent officials, when in reality, he should still be reffing in League One.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Risso on August 21, 2011, 11:23:51 AM
Also, maybe McLeish is testing to see if Gabby can play there as we need more cover in wide positions & he'll find it hard to oust Bent as the number 9.

Yes, it pays to have players who are versatile, especially if you happen to be trimming the wage bill.

Gabby just looked happier out there though, as though he'd had the shackles taken off him.

I bet Gabby's just happy to be a first choicer again.  As he bloody well should be.  None of our other strikers could have scored that yesterday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: brian green on August 21, 2011, 11:31:20 AM
Quite right Riss.   If that had been Rooney or Van Perspex it would have been hailed goal of the season.   Gabby has become one of those players the Holte Endl likes to slag off.   The usual insult he has to live with is "pace is not enough".  That goal was proof that given the chance he can be one of the best finishers in the Premiership.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Shrek on August 21, 2011, 11:35:48 AM
Ive just got signal at last (I went straight to whitby after game).

I am happy yet abit worries about the game yesterday.

I think we have the right formation but need to play Bannan instead of heskey whose first touch was woeful, But on the other hand Heskey was quite involved in alot of things we did and had a good game even with his terrible touch.

I think we lost all our presence in the last 3rd without Gabby, who was playing like his old self.
I'd also give Eric Lichaj a go at RB.

I'm worried that Mcleish will stick with Heskey and the lack of creativity will cost us against decent opposition, because let's face it Blackburn are nailed on relegation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 21, 2011, 11:38:10 AM
Quite right Riss.   If that had been Rooney or Van Perspex it would have been hailed goal of the season.   Gabby has become one of those players the Holte Endl likes to slag off.   The usual insult he has to live with is "pace is not enough".  That goal was proof that given the chance he can be one of the best finishers in the Premiership.

Agree.

Delph played like a top class footballer yesterday; vision, creativity, an eye for the right pass....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Clampy on August 21, 2011, 11:38:39 AM
That goal was proof that given the chance he can be one of the best finishers in the Premiership.

I would'nt go that far personally. He's missed his fair share of one-on-ones in the past. Yesterday's goal was superb though and it did look like the confident Gabby of old.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Chris Smith on August 21, 2011, 11:38:40 AM
Very pleasing performance and it should have gone a long way towards answering those who were worried about a negative approach from McLeish. I was particularly impressed with the way he countered their brief period of threat by bringing on an attack minded midfield player who helped us regain the dominance of possession that we'd had for most of the first half. Bannan s going to be a star.

N'Zogbia seemed to grow in confidence as the game went on and I think there is a lot more to come from him. Delph looks the part and he and Petrov seem to have a good understanding.

Great to see Gabby looking like he's enjoying it again, hope he's not out for too long.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: john e on August 21, 2011, 11:43:26 AM
One goal and he's proved people wrong ? Don't think so, he's got to put together some consistently good performances like yesterday to do that, he's been pretty much rubbish for long parts of the last couple of seasons and one 'wonder goal' and a good performance is not enough,
He was good yesterday, better than he's been in a long time, but he's still got a lot of probing to do for me, let's hope he doesn't now go on a 8/9 game run without scoring now,

I know I'm going against the grain here, but we have carried Gabby in to many games in the past, and although yesterday was great for him and us, it's not enough, he needs to keep on doing it which in the past he has been incapable of doing


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Clampy on August 21, 2011, 11:46:45 AM
I was particularly impressed with the way he countered their brief period of threat by bringing on an attack minded midfield player who helped us regain the dominance of possession that we'd had for most of the first half. Bannan s going to be a star.

I said the same to my mate yesterday. Delph and Petrov were'nt as effective in the second half as they were in the first and they lost their way slighty, which helped Blackburn get a foothold back in the game. I thought at first he made that last sub about 10 mins too early, but it was a spot on decision. As for Bannan, we could have something very special on our hands.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Monty on August 21, 2011, 11:49:54 AM
Very pleasing performance and it should have gone a long way towards answering those who were worried about a negative approach from McLeish. I was particularly impressed with the way he countered their brief period of threat by bringing on an attack minded midfield player who helped us regain the dominance of possession that we'd had for most of the first half. Bannan s going to be a star.

N'Zogbia seemed to grow in confidence as the game went on and I think there is a lot more to come from him. Delph looks the part and he and Petrov seem to have a good understanding.

Great to see Gabby looking like he's enjoying it again, hope he's not out for too long.

Agree with all of this, but I really think Bannan has to play ahead of Heskey. Emile scored yesterday, but his first touch was consistently found wanting, and I don't think we can really rely on his goalscoring ability to compensate for this over the season. Also, Zog played better with Bannan on the pitch, and they seem to be on the same wavelength.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 21, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
The only change I would make from yesterday for the Wolves game is Bannan in for Heskey.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 21, 2011, 11:55:45 AM
Hopefully he'll start wee Barry on Tuesday,he'll play well and push for a start on Saturday. Jean the second and Ireland will need a run out as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Simba on August 21, 2011, 12:26:29 PM
It all makes sense now. From the Guardian match report:

That said, BirminghamVilla's opening Premier League goal of the season came from a more familiar source, Gabriel Agbonlahor gathering Bent's pass before cutting inside Míchel Salgado to curl an angled right-footed shot into the top far corner of the net.

Birmingham Villa?  So....... the decision to NOT re-model the North Stand, hire the Ex Blues Manager, Blues going under, our lack of trading ( I mean who needs TWO squads), the cry of poverty from the Chair - it all makes sense. Anything else I missed?

The Bells are ringing to the end of the road?   :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: martin o`who?? on August 21, 2011, 12:28:15 PM
I`ll take it, no problem, everybody looked up for it, Gabby was a revelation, shame about the crap gate though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: CJ on August 21, 2011, 12:33:51 PM
Agree about the crap gate - only 33,000-odd. If Blackburn had bought a normal away allocation of 2-3,000 rather than their traditional taxi load it would have been more respectable. But a lot were on holiday (at least 6 who sit by me) and not an attractive fixture contributed to the poor numbers IMO
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Chris Smith on August 21, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
Agree about the crap gate - only 33,000-odd. If Blackburn had bought a normal away allocation of 2-3,000 rather than their traditional taxi load it would have been more respectable. But a lot were on holiday (at least 6 who sit by me) and not an attractive fixture contributed to the poor numbers IMO

I agree, crowds are always a bit down in August so I only expected around 35k but didn't account for them only selling 350.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: SteveD on August 21, 2011, 01:39:34 PM
It was the worst possible fixture to start the season with in terms of a crowd - but we couldn't have asked for better opponents to give McLeish his first three points. They were truly awful (again) and I hope they go down.

A bit like last season's West Ham game, we shouldn't read too much into it, but it was a bright performance, and we look more organised and played the ball around nicely. Apart from one poor touch, thought Heskey made a big contribution too. Good to see Delph get 90 mins and N'Zog was better than last week - has Young's skills and burst of pace, but also seems less selfish - head up rather than head down.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: VILLAZONE on August 21, 2011, 01:50:15 PM
SG 6
LY 5 (CC 7)
JC 7
RD 6
SW 6
SP 6
FD 8* ;)
CN 7
EH 6 (BB 7)
GA 6 (MA 6)
DB 6

We played a bloody awful side in Balckburn who will see relegation if they don't buy wisely
As for their Manager odds on he will be the first to go this season from the Premier
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Shrek on August 21, 2011, 02:00:11 PM
I was particularly impressed with the way he countered their brief period of threat by bringing on an attack minded midfield player who helped us regain the dominance of possession that we'd had for most of the first half. Bannan s going to be a star.

I said the same to my mate yesterday. Delph and Petrov were'nt as effective in the second half as they were in the first and they lost their way slighty, which helped Blackburn get a foothold back in the game. I thought at first he made that last sub about 10 mins too early, but it was a spot on decision. As for Bannan, we could have something very special on our hands.

I think that's a tad unfair on Petrov and Delph, gabby was playing really well and when we lost him we lost his presence which put more pressure on the midfield, Albrighton was nowhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: TheSandman on August 21, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
The only change I would make from yesterday for the Wolves game is Bannan in for Heskey.

I agree. Gabby looks happy in that wide position so I'd like to see Bannan coming in to midfield and a front three of N'Zogbia, Bent and Gabby with Hesk as an option from the bench.

On Tuesday I'd like to see some players who have not really had a run get a game. In particular I'd like to see Gary Gardner have a game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Richard on August 21, 2011, 02:36:10 PM
The only change I would make from yesterday for the Wolves game is Bannan in for Heskey.

I agree. Gabby looks happy in that wide position so I'd like to see Bannan coming in to midfield and a front three of N'Zogbia, Bent and Gabby with Hesk as an option from the bench.

On Tuesday I'd like to see some players who have not really had a run get a game. In particular I'd like to see Gary Gardner have a game.

Agree with all of this - the way to go in modern football is quick passing on the ground not hoof ball.

And for Tuesday I'd go something like :

Guzan
Lichaj
Collins
Clark
Warnock
Makoun
Ireland
Gardner
Bannan
Fonz
Heskey
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: brian green on August 21, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
I agree with all of that Richard and welcome Villazone (don't agree with the 6 for Gabby though).

I think our tendency to play hoof ball last season was because our midfield was constantly being overrun.   Yesterday was a good win but sterner tests will stretch our midfield.   If we do not strengthen our midfield the defence will have to resort to balls over the top to the front men.   Hoof ball is often a forced tactic not a voluntary one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Monty on August 21, 2011, 03:20:50 PM
Eloquently put, Brian. The midfield has to be a three, or at least with a player like Bannan the forward option in the 4-2-3-1, so as to give it the flexibility to move properly off the ball. The defence need short options to play out from the back, and it is up to the midfield to do this while making sure they don't get too distanced from the forward players. The three allows them to do this better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: CJ on August 21, 2011, 03:25:22 PM

And for Tuesday I'd go something like :

Guzan
Lichaj
Collins
Clark
Warnock
Makoun
Ireland
Gardner
Bannan
Fonz
Heskey

I'd pretty much go with that except I'd have N'Zog in for Heskey, who I think went off with a groin 'twinge' yesterday according to AM, and N'Zog could do with more game time to get up to full speed.

Which reminds me - where's the pre-match thread?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Matt C on August 21, 2011, 03:28:06 PM
Enjoyed the game and day yesterday and the solid but positive start McLeish needed. We'll have far sterner tests but you can only beat the opposition that turns up and we did that pretty comfortably. Delph and Petrov did well I thought but Collins was my MoM; won everything.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 21, 2011, 04:12:39 PM
Eloquently put, Brian. The midfield has to be a three, or at least with a player like Bannan the forward option in the 4-2-3-1, so as to give it the flexibility to move properly off the ball. The defence need short options to play out from the back, and it is up to the midfield to do this while making sure they don't get too distanced from the forward players. The three allows them to do this better.

I'd imagine the consensus here is that Bannan offers more than Heskey in a 4231 formation so I am probably preaching to the converted but I am not sure this point has been covered.  Tactically if we are under the cosh if we include Bannan then it is very easy to convert to a 433 and strengthen the centre of midfield, whereas a midfield three including Heskey will be physically strong but very clumsy.

I suppose it could be argued that with Heskey it is easy to change to a 442 (pulling the wide players into a flat midfield four) but as we saw under MON a 442 often gets out numbered in the centre of the pitch (especially with a tiring Petrov).

Heskey's biggest attribute is that he is a pain in the arse for the opposition: harrying, physically intimidating the opposition and provides additional strength at set pieces; however I'd also argue that he is also a pain in the arse for Villa with his bad first touch losing possession and an inability to receive the ball in tight circumstances.

I really hope that AM starts playing Bannan as ultimately I think we will be a better team.  Furthermore I think we'd be a VERY good team to watch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Monty on August 21, 2011, 04:19:25 PM
In full agreement there, Dante. It's noticeable that Petrov tired towards the end of the Fulham game where Heskey played the 90 but seemed fine physically yesterday after Bannan came on to offer more dynamism and options in the midfield. I'm very pleased that AM recognises the general advantages of 4-2-3-1 over the 4-4-2, and Heskey's positioning shows clear instructions from the manager, which is good to see. However, I do agree, Bannan would offer much more in terms of creativity, not to mention making our style more incisive (rather than bludgeoning) and would make us easier on the eye to boot. Overall, however, yesterday's game made me MUCH more optimistic about AM's tenure - as long as he doesn't persist too much with bloody Heskey!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Aston Manor on August 21, 2011, 04:29:18 PM
I think it's becoming almost a cliche to have a pop at Heskey. He scored! How about Bannan for Delph?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Monty on August 21, 2011, 04:32:30 PM
I think it's becoming almost a cliche to have a pop at Heskey. He scored! How about Bannan for Delph?

Delph was man of the match, and Bannan's best position is where Heskey was playing, just different. Heskey may have scored, but his contribution was always let down by his poor touch and lack of vision, and I don't think we can rely on his goalscoring to justify his selection in future.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 21, 2011, 04:51:33 PM
Blackburn is not in the shape for today. Losing Samba is big impact to them in term of defender.

Good to see Gabby score the 1st goal like that. IMO all work quite OK again the poor side.

Anyway the midfield and forward is still have more to do in term of connection. If we face the strong side we need to be more control in the ball.

Cheer,



You've talked me into it. Hurray!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 22, 2011, 08:19:42 AM
Thought they all did well but there are issues. Warnock diving in cost us a goal, stay on your feet should be whipped into him until he is begging for his life, the stupid, stupid man.

The centre of the park is like a great chasm for sides to walk through. Delph did well, and so did Petrov at times, but we were wide open too much.

Good finishing though, and a decent display. Would like to see NZogbia given the Gabby role if he is not fit next week, with Albrighton down the right.

Agree with that

Thought we looked good at times and then awful at others, the first 15 mins of the second half we terrible and a half decent team would have equalised.

The full back area is a concern for me, Warnock being to rash and Young being pulled out of position far too often.

Pleased with Delph and thought bannan looked the business when he can on giving us an extra bit of zip.

bannan needs to start against Wolves
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Concrete John on August 22, 2011, 09:48:54 AM
I think it was a patchy performance, but more good than bad.

Gabby was on fire the first half and we were good going forward, but then when Blackburn started having a bit more of the game I think our central midfield didn't impose themselves enough, which is a fear for games against the better sides.

Bannan really impressed me when he came on!

Overall hard to judge as they are a poor side and it was so easy in that first half I can't escape the feeling one or two players took their foot off the gas.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Simon Ward on August 22, 2011, 10:40:23 AM
Needed more bite in midfield especially when Blackburn came back at us in the second half. But a win nevertheless and my family went home happy!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Villanation on August 22, 2011, 11:18:21 AM
Have to say for the time when Gabby was on there he looked a different class to everybody else, the minute he was of i though "oh F***" and you could tell almost instantly he was gone.

Delph is starting to claim his place, looked a bit reckless at times but give him the game time and he'll get that sorted.

Gabby for me was sh1t hot, when he did that little jink and placed his shot, i said to my mate when did we get Messi in, my mate said that bloke never ceases to amaze me, just when you think there is naff all there he does something like that, my reply was, that's the nature of genius.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Caiphus on August 22, 2011, 12:16:46 PM
Gabby might lack the nous to think his way through a one-on-one with the keeper, but he is still a pretty good finisher overall.  I thought a bigger fuss would of been made about him scoring his 50th league goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Post-Match Thread/Ratings
Post by: Villanation on August 22, 2011, 12:32:40 PM
Gabby might lack the nous to think his way through a one-on-one with the keeper, but he is still a pretty good finisher overall.  I thought a bigger fuss would of been made about him scoring his 50th league goal.

mentioned this before ages ago, its always amazed me that someone like Arsenal haven't come in for him, would hate seeing him go, but in my mind and as was proved on Saturday there is a lot more to this player than we think and given the right midfield behind him such as Wilshire and Walcott and others threading the right balls through to him, I think Gabby would be prolific on an International scale, do I think he would cope at that level, i think he would standing on his head, because as we saw on Saturday he does have some very good skills, pace and power, his ability to hold of a defender and place a pass has he did with his assist for Heskey was very good, only seen one player shield a ball that well and that was Kenny Dalgliesh.

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