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Title: Season tickets
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 19, 2011, 01:16:00 PM
Article in the mail today is that we have easily exceeded 20K this year

Not bad considering so many stating that it was over for them
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on August 19, 2011, 01:21:37 PM
20,000? Where does that put us in terms of season ticket sales in the league?  Don't Norwich have about 18k?
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 19, 2011, 01:29:45 PM
Any of the promoted teams will get a huge swell of ST's upon their trip into the pormised land (TM sky sports)

Considering that United are down again this year on ST's i think that is not too bad for us.
DW once said that as always with the Villa if a casual wants to attend a game there is always a seat

we kid ourselves that we are a hugely supported team
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: richardhubbard on August 19, 2011, 01:43:52 PM
35% down on 3 years ago, pretty shit really
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: nordenvillain on August 19, 2011, 01:55:26 PM
35% down on 3 years ago, pretty shit really
So we had at least 30,769 ST's 3 years ago ? I think not. I believe that we have struggled to get above 25K most years. The proof of the pudding will be in how many in total come through the gates, not just the number of ST's sold. I live 110 miles away and cannot afford to come to many games due to cost and time taken.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: TheSandman on August 19, 2011, 01:59:57 PM
If we typically averaged 30,000+ then yes that would be disappointing but I think we typically always have been between 20-25,000? Three years ago was when we were having untypically high attendances.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: mrfuse on August 19, 2011, 02:30:23 PM
I wouldnt worry too much about this seasons tickets, wait until next years!
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: eamonn on August 19, 2011, 02:31:49 PM
Easily over 20,000, not 20,000.
I think 27k was as high as it got under that mad little man from Ulster.
Close to 25,000 wouldn't be bad going considering the economy and the strife at Villa in recent times.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on August 19, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
I read yesterday that even Man Utd have about 4,000 unsold seats for this Monday night's game.

An interesting sign of things to come for everyone?
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: Lucky Eddie on August 19, 2011, 03:08:47 PM
I read yesterday that even Man Utd have about 4,000 unsold seats for this Monday night's game.

An interesting sign of things to come for everyone?

So we need a gate of 39.300 tomorrow to be able to tell the dirty mid shire mancs that they've got more empty seats than we have!

If that aint an incentive for your casuals to get down to VP tomorrow I don't know what is?
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 19, 2011, 05:02:06 PM
35% down on 3 years ago, pretty shit really
If you're going to moan, get your facts right.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: Hale on August 19, 2011, 07:11:27 PM
I have not renewed my 2 season tickets  - after 10+ years. I still intend to go to selected games - on a saturday at 3pm - but dear reader you will be bored by the various reasons for non renewal (not purely financial).

But I have received a letter from the CEO.

Now we were completely ignored under previous regimes, so this is an improvement.

However, after a paragraph on why Eck is the right man (and indeed he may be), the next para states that the focus and ambition is in order "that the Club's revenue can grow and contribute accordingly to player,manager and other football related costs". This is where I have a problem  - perhaps we should look to bring down the costs - e.g. lobby for a premier wage cap. Sky pay a small fortune but the money goes not to improve the club or its long suffering supporters but the player, manager and other football related namely agents. Until this is properly dealt with the more we will play in Hong Kong etc and look to "supporters" around the world.

Anyway to all those going tomorrow I sincerely hope that the Villa win and in style.

UTV
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: robbyfvillain on August 19, 2011, 08:05:49 PM
I calculated approx 24k season tickets.

Using the select a seat option for the blackburn game on the monday following closure date for season tickets it was possible to calculate the amount of seats available in each section of villa park and those that were still available. By deduction the rest were season tickets = 24410.

All a bit sad but I was bored!
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: mistymopcap on August 19, 2011, 08:12:55 PM
I too have received the same letter from the CEO as I too have not renewed my season ticket. I started watching Villa in 1968 (v Rotherham 0-1) when my father decided I was old enough to go. Not so much 'Holte Enders in the Sky' as 'Witton End in the Pouring Rain'! Stopping my ticket has been sad and not easy. Paul Faulkner, for all his good intentions, will never have that depth of belonging or memories. Which is why I resent his letter. For footballl to have meaning it is about belonging. Once that tie is broken then something dies. RL & PF may well have chosen the right man in the Blues man. But that's not the point. On the one hand football is just  ... football. So I don't wish McLeish any ill. But, on the other hand, his 'heritage' is not something I can accept and I find it an insult that folk who, for all their good intentions and ambition, cannot appreciate that. So time to move on.
I hope to keep the faith through reserve team matches. But I have found that they are going to keep playing at Hinckley. What is that about? Surely there is a ground in the West Midlands we could use. O yes. I forgot. It's the money, stupid! What is heritage after all? Villa are just another brand.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: TheSandman on August 19, 2011, 08:16:20 PM
I calculated approx 24k season tickets.

Using the select a seat option for the blackburn game on the monday following closure date for season tickets it was possible to calculate the amount of seats available in each section of villa park and those that were still available. By deduction the rest were season tickets = 24410.

All a bit sad but I was bored!

If that is accurate then it is not bad at all and I think is a bit more than last season.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: robbyfvillain on August 19, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
I calculated approx 24k season tickets.

Using the select a seat option for the blackburn game on the monday following closure date for season tickets it was possible to calculate the amount of seats available in each section of villa park and those that were still available. By deduction the rest were season tickets = 24410.

All a bit sad but I was bored!

 

If that is accurate then it is not bad at all and I think is a bit more than last season.

Don't want to spoil any guess the crowd but at the moment there are by my calculation 5591 seats available for tomorrow. Blackburn have been allocated P10 and P11 which is 713 seats plus there will be the exec seats.

So 34k + away + exec seats. Assuming they count season tickets whether they turn up or not.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: VancouverLion on August 19, 2011, 08:30:11 PM
You can still buy a ticket on the day though right?? if so a crowd of 36-37K is not bad.

UTV!
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: spangley1812 on August 19, 2011, 08:35:10 PM
You can still buy a ticket on the day though right?? if so a crowd of 36-37K is not bad.

UTV!

Yes from the main ticket office or the trinity road ticket office
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2011, 08:41:01 PM
I'm planning to buy tickets for the Hereford game tomorrow before the game, will I be able to get them from the ticket office?

You can tell how long it's been since I bought tickets for any game at VP on a match day!
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 19, 2011, 09:31:41 PM
I too have received the same letter from the CEO as I too have not renewed my season ticket. I started watching Villa in 1968 (v Rotherham 0-1) when my father decided I was old enough to go. Not so much 'Holte Enders in the Sky' as 'Witton End in the Pouring Rain'! Stopping my ticket has been sad and not easy. Paul Faulkner, for all his good intentions, will never have that depth of belonging or memories. Which is why I resent his letter. For footballl to have meaning it is about belonging. Once that tie is broken then something dies. RL & PF may well have chosen the right man in the Blues man. But that's not the point. On the one hand football is just  ... football. So I don't wish McLeish any ill. But, on the other hand, his 'heritage' is not something I can accept and I find it an insult that folk who, for all their good intentions and ambition, cannot appreciate that. So time to move on.
I hope to keep the faith through reserve team matches. But I have found that they are going to keep playing at Hinckley. What is that about? Surely there is a ground in the West Midlands we could use. O yes. I forgot. It's the money, stupid! What is heritage after all? Villa are just another brand.

You resent a letter from a club employee becaue they're not a lifelong Villa supporter, you feel insulted that other supporters don't accept your views about the manager and you think we play reserve games at Hinckley because they pay us. I think the bottom of the 'reasons to moan' barrel has just been scraped.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: Chipsticks on August 19, 2011, 09:36:22 PM
I know isn't necessarily due to Season Ticket sales, but if anyone's interested this is a graph of our average attendance from 1947 - 2008.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Villa_attendance_since_1947.png)
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: bertlambshank on August 19, 2011, 09:36:51 PM
I calculated approx 24k season tickets. what about the seats that had already been sold to non S/T holders?

Using the select a seat option for the blackburn game on the monday following closure date for season tickets it was possible to calculate the amount of seats available in each section of villa park and those that were still available. By deduction the rest were season tickets = 24410.

All a bit sad but I was bored!
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: spangley1812 on August 19, 2011, 09:37:23 PM
I'm planning to buy tickets for the Hereford game tomorrow before the game, will I be able to get them from the ticket office?

You can tell how long it's been since I bought tickets for any game at VP on a match day!

Yes as long as you get there about before about 2.00pm or I think its open after the game for about 30mins
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: Hoppo on August 19, 2011, 09:51:40 PM
 Mr Woodhall is their anything you could moan about at Villa? Serious question Is everything rosy?
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: bertlambshank on August 19, 2011, 09:59:41 PM
Mr Woodhall is their anything you could moan about at Villa? Serious question Is everything rosy?
What's your beef?
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 19, 2011, 10:00:37 PM
Mr Woodhall is their anything you could moan about at Villa? Serious question Is everything rosy?

There are many things I can, and do, find fault with but complaining about a letter saying in effect "Thanks for your support, hope to still see you" and the location of a handful of reserve games seems to fall into the 'negative for the sake of it' bracket.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2011, 10:23:55 PM
I'm planning to buy tickets for the Hereford game tomorrow before the game, will I be able to get them from the ticket office?

You can tell how long it's been since I bought tickets for any game at VP on a match day!

Yes as long as you get there about before about 2.00pm or I think its open after the game for about 30mins

Thanks Spangley, I usually get cup tickets from the club shop in town, but figured as i'm at VP anyway tomorrow I may as well pick them up then. Must be the best part of 10 years since I bought tickets at VP!
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: mistymopcap on August 19, 2011, 10:38:22 PM
Mr Woodhall is their anything you could moan about at Villa? Serious question Is everything rosy?

There are many things I can, and do, find fault with but complaining about a letter saying in effect "Thanks for your support, hope to still see you" and the location of a handful of reserve games seems to fall into the 'negative for the sake of it' bracket.

Somehow something has got lost in the translation ... but you still can have a happy life.  ;).
Watching football is something to do with an odd mixture between fun & passion. And, for me, 'watching a handful of reserve games' is about that. It's not an invitation for a comment from someone who confuses the Premier League with the only way to play football and Hinckley with Aston ... & a Blues manager with a Villa one.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 19, 2011, 10:43:53 PM
Mr Woodhall is their anything you could moan about at Villa? Serious question Is everything rosy?

There are many things I can, and do, find fault with but complaining about a letter saying in effect "Thanks for your support, hope to still see you" and the location of a handful of reserve games seems to fall into the 'negative for the sake of it' bracket.

Somehow something has got lost in the translation ... but you still can have a happy life.  ;)

Possibly, but that thing about the reserves playing at Hinckley. You once said you watch non-league - would you really want some of our promsing kids playing on the sort of pitches you get in the Southern League in January?
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: mistymopcap on August 19, 2011, 10:59:12 PM
Sorry if our messages crossed.
Yes. I do watch non-league and I will be tomorrow. I'm not sure I follow you about the use of non-league pitches and our players. I'd prefer to all players to play on the best pitches possible. But seeing guys doing their best on difficult conditions is part of what makes football 'football'. I'd prefer Villa reserves to be playing in the city somewhere if possible. With the NexGen (?) competition it seems to me that reserve football may grow in interest. It certainly will if it looks as if money can be made.

Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 19, 2011, 11:09:03 PM
Sorry if our messages crossed.
Yes, I do watch non-league and I will be tomorrow. I'm not sure I follow you about the use of non-league pitches and our players. I'd prefer all players to play on the best pitches possible. But seeing guys doing their best on difficult conditions is part of what makes football 'football'. I'd prefer Villa reserves to be playing in the city somewhere if possible. With the new NexGen (?) competition it seems to me that reserve football may grow in interest. It will if cash can be generated by TV and attendances. 

S

I wouldn't want our kids risking injury by playing on the sort of pitches you get in non-league during the winter. I don't know why we don't play at Walsallany moe, but I can think of good reasons why we wouldn't play at every other local ground. 
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: mistymopcap on August 19, 2011, 11:17:48 PM
I'd prefer Walsall. My problem with Hinckley is simply location. When I was a kid I'd watch the occasional reserve match because it was at Villa Park and local to me. Perhaps some Hinckley folk will go. I'd like to think so but somehow ..
Remember too that in these days no one is going to risk anyone by using an unsafe pitch. So why not 'guest' visit grounds as long as sense is used?
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 19, 2011, 11:31:34 PM
I don't know why we don't play at Walsall anymore but most local grounds are shared now, meaning free dates are at a premium and with respect to the clubs concerned places like Sutton Town and Halesowen are a bit bleak in midwinter.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: Dave Clark Five on August 20, 2011, 12:26:52 AM
You can still buy a ticket on the day though right?? if so a crowd of 36-37K is not bad.

UTV!

Yes from the main ticket office or the trinity road ticket office

Speak to Nicky Keye.
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: steffo on August 21, 2011, 08:29:40 PM
Sutton Coldfield Town play on the latest all weather pitch. Available all year round*

(* weather permitting)
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 21, 2011, 08:30:15 PM
Cadburys has a great pitch :)
Title: Re: Season tickets
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2011, 08:35:26 PM
Cadburys has a great pitch :)

Problem is it melts if it's too hot.
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