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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: lovejoy on August 19, 2011, 07:21:33 AM

Title: Jose Mourinho
Post by: lovejoy on August 19, 2011, 07:21:33 AM
I used to quite like the guy because he was a character.

Now I see him has an ego-centric child. He always makes it about him rather than the team. His teams usually packed with talent play dull, cagey defensive shut down anti-football. He actually accused the Barca players last season of going down easy. You've got Ronaldo in your team FFS.

Wednesday night though was the final straw. Out of pure petulance he calmly eye gouged the Barca coach. In rugby he would be looking at a lengthy ban but I would suspect the Spanish FA will be less punative after all they and Real are basically the same thing. And yes I'd have him at Villa in a flash.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 19, 2011, 08:45:04 AM
I must admit that I ised to like him

Now I think he's a c***
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: AV82EC on August 19, 2011, 08:48:06 AM
He makes me laugh with some of his antics but he is really just an enormous bellend. He's also taken the racist Madrid silver which makes him the antichrist in my eyes.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: E I Adio on August 19, 2011, 08:57:41 AM
He seems to have been behaving like a cock since he joined Madrid.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on August 19, 2011, 09:11:52 AM
Just read about this on the BBC gossip page and having watched the game on Wednesday I thought it was more of an ear poke than an eye gouge. He's just a saw loser and is struggling to cope with the fact that his team aren't the best in the league, he'll do anything to get the attention of the media.

Probably better suited to the other games thread but there was some racist noises directed at Marcelo from the Barca fans although i've seen no mention of this in the press.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: darren woolley on August 19, 2011, 09:13:25 AM
He his too arrogant for me.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: timeoutbigbar on August 19, 2011, 09:15:44 AM
His antics on wednesday were absolutely pathetic.  His team contunally act like petulant little kids when things go wrong.  After the game he claimed "Barcelona started it".  What a childish remark for one thing, and Pepe and Marcelo could both have been sent off twice during that game for kicking/swinging out recklessly at opponents.  He seems to love the media spotlight, and once again he's succeeded in getting it.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Ger Regan on August 19, 2011, 09:16:14 AM
What I find very funny about the whole Barca v Real thing is that if anyone criticises either of the teams, someone invariably feels the need to interject with a "ah yes, but what about [other team's name]'s cynical way of [some underhand tactic employed by them]?", as if there's a definitive black and white, right and wrong way of looking at the whole thing. Similar to the Rangers v Celtic thing ooop north.
Both sides act like cocks at times, but for me (barring the racist shit that some fuckwits apparently started at Marcelo on Wednesday), Mourinho's antics are much more divisive, and as was mentioned on the Guardian Football Weekly, could easily destroy the togetherness of the Spain squad.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: timeoutbigbar on August 19, 2011, 09:18:24 AM

Probably better suited to the other games thread but there was some racist noises directed at Marcelo from the Barca fans although i've seen no mention of this in the press.

I heard that aswell.  No excuse for that, but Marcelo is a cock.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Ger Regan on August 19, 2011, 09:18:54 AM
Probably better suited to the other games thread but there was some racist noises directed at Marcelo from the Barca fans although i've seen no mention of this in the press.
Sid Lowe mentioned it, although qualified it by saying it was hard to know for certain without listening back to the audio, which he hadn't at that time. Incidents like that really do show how advanced (in certain ways) the English game is.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on August 19, 2011, 09:26:51 AM
Probably better suited to the other games thread but there was some racist noises directed at Marcelo from the Barca fans although i've seen no mention of this in the press.
Sid Lowe mentioned it, although qualified it by saying it was hard to know for certain without listening back to the audio, which he hadn't at that time. Incidents like that really do show how advanced (in certain ways) the English game is.

It was clear as a bell on Sky's coverage.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Dr Butler on August 19, 2011, 09:44:44 AM
never really rated him(apart from winding Ferguson up), he should manage someone like the Scunthorpe United's of this world and then we would see how fucking special he is.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 19, 2011, 09:48:08 AM
Probably better suited to the other games thread but there was some racist noises directed at Marcelo from the Barca fans although i've seen no mention of this in the press.
Sid Lowe mentioned it, although qualified it by saying it was hard to know for certain without listening back to the audio, which he hadn't at that time. Incidents like that really do show how advanced (in certain ways) the English game is.

It was clear as a bell on Sky's coverage.

It was mentioned by the commentator too.

As for Mourinho it looked like to me that he just pinched the cheek of the Barca coach.  Not a sensible thing to do but not the most heinous of crimes. 
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Concrete John on August 19, 2011, 09:51:07 AM
never really rated him(apart from winding Ferguson up), he should manage someone like the Scunthorpe United's of this world and then we would see how fucking special he is.

UTV
The Doc

That's like saying we should stick Rooney in the Vauxhall Conference to see if he can play there!

I always liked him as Chelsea manager, but then not paid too much attention to him at Madrid.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: noodles_ on August 19, 2011, 09:53:19 AM
"His teams usually packed with talent play dull, cagey defensive shut down anti-football"

Very untrue.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on August 19, 2011, 09:54:24 AM
He puts his finger in his eye by the looks of the close-up. He's definitely gone very strange recently.

Still, he's managed to get pretty much full control over transfers there - no mean achievement - and got Valdano out, so he has no excuses this season.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: noodles_ on August 19, 2011, 09:55:10 AM
never really rated him(apart from winding Ferguson up), he should manage someone like the Scunthorpe United's of this world and then we would see how fucking special he is.

UTV
The Doc

That's like saying we should stick Rooney in the Vauxhall Conference to see if he can play there!

I always liked him as Chelsea manager, but then not paid too much attention to him at Madrid.

Exactly. Using this logic, Tony Pulis is the greatest manager ever.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: themossman on August 19, 2011, 10:26:37 AM
He's always been on that tightrope between genius with foibles and complete bellend.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: CJ on August 19, 2011, 10:27:57 AM
Hardly an eye gouge. From the angle I saw it on TV yesterday it was more like a pinch on the cheek (facial not buttock!). Quite girly actually.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: ktvillan on August 19, 2011, 10:28:09 AM
Didn't Mourinho manage that Porto team that dived and cheated on a monumental scale in a UEFA cup final against MON's Celtic?.  If so it's a bit rich him complaining about opponents going down a bit too easily.  But then he seems to have turned into a spoilt brat at Real, probably because he can't find a fair way to match Barcelona and he isn't top dog anymore.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 19, 2011, 10:29:27 AM
He's an egocentric prick. Always has been, always will be. The photo I've seen of the incident with the Barca assistant looks very much like he's gone for the eye. In truth even if it was "a pinch on the cheek" what the f*** is he doing raising hands to him anyway? He's shown himself to be a bitter loser as well as an ungracious winner. If that's "box office", as some people say in his defence, then you can stuff it. What's wrong with quiet dignity?
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: avfcpg on August 19, 2011, 10:43:02 AM
Aside from anything else he's a top class manager. Haven't seen many teams able to compete against Barca and yet he's done it time and time again with different teams...

Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Irish villain on August 19, 2011, 10:57:26 AM
I used to have a lot of time for him but the move to Real has not really worked out for the best. I think he's a talented manager but his antics can be a bit much. As others have said why did he raise his hand to the face in the first place?

Sore loser and ungracious winner sums him up perfectly.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Ger Regan on August 19, 2011, 11:04:20 AM
Hardly an eye gouge. From the angle I saw it on TV yesterday it was more like a pinch on the cheek (facial not buttock!). Quite girly actually.
Apparently there are photos showing contact with the eye. Haven't seen it myself, but Sid Lowe mentioned it, and I'd trust his judgement.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: gerags on August 19, 2011, 11:29:35 AM
Hardly an eye gouge. From the angle I saw it on TV yesterday it was more like a pinch on the cheek (facial not buttock!). Quite girly actually.
Apparently there are photos showing contact with the eye. Haven't seen it myself, but Sid Lowe mentioned it, and I'd trust his judgement.

There's a photo on this page, looks like one in the eye to me.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18082011/58/la-liga-pique-mourinho-wrecking-spanish-game.html
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Yossarian on August 19, 2011, 12:23:56 PM
The irony of the UEFA Cup final is the similarity in character between him and MON.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: JJ-AV on August 19, 2011, 12:55:17 PM
Best manager in the world tbf

Plus he's great entertainment.



Awful loser.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 19, 2011, 01:01:59 PM
Mourinho has lost the plot in Spain and he'll have nobody to blame but himself. He tries to bully his way as is typical with FC Porto. I thought he'd grown up after his time at Chelsea but he soon returned to character at Inter and now he's destroying his reputation with Madrid. He can kiss goodbye to any hopes he has of taking over after Ferguson at Old Trafford, with the exception of Bobby Charlton, they won't put up with his antics.

Mourinho has gone from great manager to spoilt child. Saying that, I always preferred his interviews than his football.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Dr Butler on August 19, 2011, 02:06:17 PM
never really rated him(apart from winding Ferguson up), he should manage someone like the Scunthorpe United's of this world and then we would see how fucking special he is.

UTV
The Doc

That's like saying we should stick Rooney in the Vauxhall Conference to see if he can play there!

I always liked him as Chelsea manager, but then not paid too much attention to him at Madrid.

Exactly. Using this logic, Tony Pulis is the greatest manager ever.

I know there is hardly any logic to it but I have never liked him  :)
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Lucky Eddie on August 19, 2011, 03:13:14 PM
Red cards in super cup final and barcafuckinlona don't like it.

Oh the irony!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Damo70 on August 19, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
He's started to believe he's untouchable but Real Madrid won't put up with a combination of bad publicity and coming second to Barcelona.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: tom jennings IV on August 19, 2011, 05:17:30 PM
I thought it was the classic "deflecting attention away from a loss" so the press don't pile into the players and upset their ever so fragile, precious egos. Worked quite well...
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on August 19, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
Think Real Madrid will fire him at the end of season. He is a great manager but not a gentleman.  Real Madrid just need to stick with same team and let them grow and gel together, then bit by bit they get closed to super Barcelona.

I would love to see Mourinho face against Barcelona 1982 team.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: eastie on August 19, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
Think Real Madrid will fire him at the end of season. He is a great manager but not a gentleman.  Real Madrid just need to stick with same team and let them grow and gel together, then bit by bit they get closed to super Barcelona.

I would love to see Mourinho face against Barcelona 1982 team.

Im not sure they will wait till the end of the season , if he continues to bring bad press to them he may bite the bullet sooner.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: bertlambshank on August 19, 2011, 09:53:24 PM
Barca are a bunch of cheating bastards,always have been.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: timeoutbigbar on August 20, 2011, 01:58:32 AM
Barca are a bunch of cheating bastards,always have been.

While Real are saints.  For once I agree with what I heard on Talkshite the other day.  The amount you hear about Barca diving, you'd think they invented it.  I'd much rather see the attempted leg breakers by Madrid cut out first, then deal with any simulation.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: The Man With A Stick on August 21, 2011, 12:10:07 PM
Liked him when he was at Chelsea due to the way he wound Wenger up so easily, but he's now become a tiresome prick.

His obsession with Barcelona is so bad, it's only a matter of time before he sends one of his thugs like Pepe out there to break Messi's leg.
Title: Re: Jose Mourinho
Post by: Hopadop on August 21, 2011, 04:48:29 PM
Did he ever get round to saying sorry to the Berkshire ambulance service? Even bother to respond to their correction of his Cech injury timeline?

The annoying little fop.
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