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Title: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 16, 2011, 10:23:57 AM: 1-0 Home win

Bent 9
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 16, 2011, 10:25:27 AM: 2-0 home win

be interesting to see how we cope with a physical Blackburn side
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 16, 2011, 10:27:03 AM: 2-0 home win, 34k gate.

Bent
Dunno ( no, not Dunne, just dunno).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on August 16, 2011, 10:33:36 AM: 1-0 Home win. Agbonlahor.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irreverent ad on August 16, 2011, 10:33:45 AM: 3-1 Villa

Collins & Bent

Which I reckon will put us top of the League on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 16, 2011, 10:39:46 AM: 3-1. Collins, Bent 2 for us, Hoilett for them.

Love Bent to score at the Holte End.

Will we be having a punathon about Formica and Goodwillie?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on August 16, 2011, 10:42:42 AM: 3-1

Bent, Delph and N'Zogbia.

I'd go with...

Given

Young Collins Dunne Warnock

Makoun Petrov Delph

Ireland N'Zogbia

Bent

But I dont think he will for one minute.
I do think he'll stress the importance of attacking from the kick off at home and we'll get at them.

I think Blackburn will struggle this season and I'd be disappointed in anything other than a convincing win.
I also think they'll be weighed down with poor quality chicken.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on August 16, 2011, 10:43:44 AM: 1-1 Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on August 16, 2011, 10:49:03 AM: 2-0 Villa. Bent to get one of them and I'll go with somebody unexpected like Warnock with the other.

I won't predict a team as it'll be very interesting to see which way AM goes with this. The same as Fulham and his necks on the block big time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on August 16, 2011, 10:49:23 AM: 2-0. Really has to keep up the positive start and blackburn look bobbins frankly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on August 16, 2011, 10:53:35 AM: Quote from: John M'Zog on August 16, 2011, 10:49:03 AM
2-0 Villa. Bent to get one of them and I'll go with somebody unexpected like Warnock with the other.

I won't predict a team as it'll be very interesting to see which way AM goes with this. The same as Fulham and his necks on the block big time.

Aye. Has to show some attacking intent or the natives will get restless
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on August 16, 2011, 11:07:00 AM: 1-0. Bent 86.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on August 16, 2011, 11:27:15 AM: 2-0. The Zog and Collins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 16, 2011, 11:39:43 AM: Can't see past a Villa win here, Blackburn have lost good players and have a terrible manager.

2-0 to the Villa with goals from Bent and Albrighton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 16, 2011, 11:50:16 AM: 2-0.
Bent, and another bloke.
Would like to see Ireland start, pretty much in line with Mazrim's selection.
(Bannan, Albrighton and Gabby on the bench)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on August 16, 2011, 11:55:25 AM: 1-0 scrappy win , but the points are the main thing , 2 wins at home against blackburn and wolves would give us a very decent start ,hopefully we will some chances created as bent has had very little supply in recent games and the lack of on target goal attempts is concerning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on August 16, 2011, 12:31:06 PM: Mazrim's formation and line up gets my vote.

2-1 home win

Bent & Makoun

Dunne og
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 16, 2011, 12:46:47 PM: Can't see a problem here, Blackburn have a poor record at VP in the last 10 years and are going down.

2-0 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 16, 2011, 12:50:13 PM: Bent is nailed on to score because I just dropped him from my Fantasy team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on August 16, 2011, 12:51:03 PM: I think a 2-0 win, Bent with one and Collins.
I don't see what Ireland has actually done to warrant so many people putting him in the side?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rodders on August 16, 2011, 12:54:06 PM: I, too, like Mazrim's formation, with which I can see us scoring a goal in each half; Bent & Charlie Zog the scorers. Villa 2 - 0 Blackburn.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 16, 2011, 12:54:31 PM: All what i can be sure of in this game is Steve Kean will not be driving the team coach !! Villa 1 Blackburn 0 Collins ............
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 16, 2011, 01:02:31 PM: As long as Shay's fit I think we'll win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 16, 2011, 02:03:28 PM: If we don't win this one we are in trouble.

2-0. Bent and N'Zog.

I like Mazrim's team but would think about Bannan in place of Ireland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on August 16, 2011, 02:06:39 PM: Get Makoun back in PLEASE.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on August 16, 2011, 02:08:23 PM: I'm so excited about playing Blackburn. It's the fixture I always look out for when the fixture list is published.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 16, 2011, 02:19:09 PM: Quote from: stubbsyandy on August 16, 2011, 12:51:03 PM
I think a 2-0 win, Bent with one and Collins.
I don't see what Ireland has actually done to warrant so many people putting him in the side?
Don't think he's done much at all except give one or two glimpses of how good he could be, so I'd be tempted to give him some game time to prove himself/gain confidence/see what he can do. If it doesn't work out then replace with Bannan/Albrighton. Blackburn are the sort of team he could do well against.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nicardinho on August 16, 2011, 02:24:18 PM: The referee for the match is Stuart Attwell (Nuneaton)

Last season we were unbeaten with him in charge, while Blackburn drew in the one game he oversaw.

The assistants will be Andy Halliday (yellow flag) and Charles Breakspear (chequered flag). Kevin Wright is 4th official.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 16, 2011, 02:34:38 PM: I see this as quite an important game to win. First home game under AM, against a dire Blackburn who I tip to make the drop. Win and play well, and the sun will shine over VP and give the team and us a nice confidence boost. Whereas a poor result, performance and team selection will see a lot of nerves and restlessness in the run up to the Hereford game and put a lot more pressure on us to beat the dogheads.

I'm going for a nervy 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 16, 2011, 02:43:13 PM: Quote from: nicardinho on August 16, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
The referee for the match is Stuart Attwell (Nuneaton)

Last season we were unbeaten with him in charge, while Blackburn drew in the one game he oversaw.

The assistants will be Andy Halliday (yellow flag) and Charles Breakspear (chequered flag). Kevin Wright is 4th official.
Ref from Nuneaton?
Could be a bit of a Villa fan? Cov? Nuneaton Borough? Shall I get my mate Barry to go round and threaten him, but nicely?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on August 16, 2011, 03:23:00 PM: Thumping 4-1 win I hope. Will be in the cheap seats goading the Blackburn fans, (all 20 of them!)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 16, 2011, 03:35:25 PM: I hope and expect McLeish to pick a far more expansive team for this weekends game. He'll want to get a win in his first VP game and he'll want to prove that he can do it with a bit of style and flair. I'd want Heskey, Gabby and Petrov dropping to the bench for Makoun, Ireland and either Marc or Baz coming in.

I'm going for a relatively comfortable 2-0 (Bent and N'Zogbia)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on August 16, 2011, 03:38:10 PM: Probably the first time I/we've been so confident of a win for a while, may be more down to the opposition.

I'd like to agree with some of the 3-1 and 4-1 predictions but see it more as a 1-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on August 16, 2011, 03:59:18 PM: 1-1. Zog for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on August 16, 2011, 04:05:20 PM: Internal memorandum

From: Everybody@heroesandvillains.co.uk
To: Alex.mcleish@themightyvilla.com

Dear Alex

As part of your probationary period, we think it only fair to inform you that nothing short of a good thrashing will do where Blackburn are concerned. The sheer tedium of playing them 8 times a year is only relieved by a 5-2 thrashing, so please see to it that this happens.

Yours

The fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jockey Randall on August 16, 2011, 04:51:01 PM: As has been pointed out before I don't think we can afford to drop Heskey at the moment because he adds much needed height for set pieces, especially not against a fairly physical Blackburn side. I'd be very surprised if he was benched. As much as I admire Petrov as a model pro, I think his role should be more of a cameo these days and Makoun should take his place. I'd go:

Given

Young Collins Dunne Warnock

Makoun Delph

N'Zogbia Heskey

Bent Agbonlahor

Predictions wise I'll go 2-0 Bent (21) and (72)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on August 16, 2011, 05:46:29 PM: 2-0 Bent x2
Blackburn have their two best defenders injured at the moment as well, so this is a great chance for the first three points of the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan1975 on August 16, 2011, 06:28:30 PM: Quote from: TheZogman on August 16, 2011, 02:03:28 PM
If we don't win this one we are in trouble.

2-0. Bent and N'Zog.

I like Mazrim's team but would think about Bannan in place of Ireland.
Agree with this or even delph in the advanced role.Not understanding the Ireland love in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan1975 on August 16, 2011, 06:31:07 PM: Quote from: nicardinho on August 16, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
The referee for the match is Stuart Attwell (Nuneaton)

Last season we were unbeaten with him in charge, while Blackburn drew in the one game he oversaw.

The assistants will be Andy Halliday (yellow flag) and Charles Breakspear (chequered flag). Kevin Wright is 4th official.
What colour strips they wearing statto?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on August 16, 2011, 07:10:13 PM: They lost at home to Wolves on the weekend and will be fired up to try to beat us for a change, so expect them to have a bit of fight about them. There is still a job to be done so hope the players arent as complacent as the fans. Its hard to see anything other than a Villa win but if we're not focused from the kick-off then it could get messy.

3-1 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IRISHPHIL on August 16, 2011, 07:17:59 PM: blaclburn will want to get revenge for the asia match , so will have more incentive
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 16, 2011, 07:23:06 PM: 3-2 Villa with us hanging on at the death after they score a second late on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on August 16, 2011, 07:30:17 PM: Quote from: IRISHPHIL on August 16, 2011, 07:17:59 PM
blaclburn will want to get revenge for the asia match

Or the last 4 cups we've knocked them out of in the last 18 months!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IRISHPHIL on August 16, 2011, 07:34:57 PM: at home we need to play too strenghs, not there weaknessess
so have bent up front with support from albighton, ireland and cnz
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on August 16, 2011, 07:37:48 PM: Win win, and i suspect Gabby getting on the score sheet, looking at him on Saturday he's getting his hunger back, huge amount of work he put in and set up some nice balls for Bent and others, was busy, think he will be an important part of the game, so Villa win 2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 16, 2011, 08:04:30 PM: 1-0 Villa. Bent, 18.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on August 16, 2011, 08:43:23 PM: 5-0 to us and a rousing chorus of ..." It's just like watching Brazil ", feck it I'll even go for Emile to score .
Bent(2), Heskey, CN'Z, Collins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 16, 2011, 08:57:22 PM: 2-0

early Bent goal and Zog second in second half ....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on August 16, 2011, 10:33:14 PM: 2-0 villa! Bent and Collins scoring
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on August 17, 2011, 02:22:07 AM: 3-0 the lads! Bent 31, 55 Gabby 78

37,112
Hopefully good atmosphere!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aevillain on August 17, 2011, 05:39:12 AM: This has 0-0 written all over it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on August 17, 2011, 08:57:34 AM: we need to win this badly. blackburn I reckon are certainties for the drop this season. Would prefer to see Bannan and Ireland in for Heskey and Gabby but know it isnt likely to happen.

Id like the team to be something along the lines of:

given
young, collins, dunne, warnock
Ireland, Petrov, Delph
Bannan, Bent, Nzogbia
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on August 17, 2011, 09:28:29 AM: Agree with the above team, away from home Gabby's pace and Emile's height and selfless workrate may be useful, but at home we need craft and guile to open teams up, especially the likes of Blackburn who will come to park the bus. I'd even have Makoun over Petrov, the ability of Makoun, Delph, Bannan and Ireland to pick a pass and set up Charles and Benty should be good to watch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on August 17, 2011, 09:53:20 AM: Expect a home win although maybe not as comfortable as some expect. I spoke to a Wolves fan who went to Ewood park last week and he said that Blackburn had the look of a relegation side, so with that we could really do with a win ahead of our game against Wolves.

2-0 a goal mid-way through the first half and another towards the end of the game to ease the pressure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 17, 2011, 10:00:50 AM: A comfortable 2/3-0 win.

However, it's this sort of game where a lot of fans won't be happy with the result. If we don't do it whilst playing like Barcelona, they'll be moaning anyway.

That's the problem facing AM, a lot of fans want results AND great performances, which is a very difficult thing to do, let alone doing it in your first season in charge. Most managers get the chance to get a few good results under the belts and worry about performances later.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on August 17, 2011, 10:03:39 AM: We should have enough to take these guys, the only thing that worries me is that they will be playing to save their managers skin.
I'd like to see how we'll play with Albrighton on the wing and maybe push Gabby or Heskey/Ireland to play behind or beside Bent. If Heskey and Gabby are going to be keeping Albrighton out of the team, well then I predict a very long season.
1-0 to us, an early N'Zog goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on August 17, 2011, 10:54:14 AM: Quote from: Le Lapin on August 17, 2011, 10:03:39 AM
the only thing that worries me is that they will be playing to save their managers skin.
I'd be very surprised if they give two shits about what happens to Steve Kean.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on August 17, 2011, 11:30:17 AM: Quote from: Dave on August 17, 2011, 10:54:14 AM
Quote from: Le Lapin on August 17, 2011, 10:03:39 AM
the only thing that worries me is that they will be playing to save their managers skin.
I'd be very surprised if they give two shits about what happens to Steve Kean.
You are probably right. He'll get the bullet and they'll bring back Sparky.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 17, 2011, 11:38:39 AM: Or MON will take over as he also thinks he can get them into the Champions League. We could sell him Habib Beye as his first buy
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on August 17, 2011, 12:04:31 PM: Reading through this thread it's surprising how many (including me) are tipping Collins to score. Come on Big Eck if you're reading this maybe it's time to play him along side Bent. ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on August 17, 2011, 12:25:18 PM: Anybody see the Udinese/ Arsenal game last night and Udinese's Armero, that's how to use a player with pace, he cut through the Arsenal defence like a knife through butter, his pace was stunning, he seemed to leave any Arsenal player behind within the first few Mtrs of having the ball, have to say in spite of the fact they got hit with the early goal by Arsenal I thought Udinese where very easy on the eye, real modern football, fast tight and not lumping the ball into the centre for the big geezer to try and convert in the old centre forward traditional style.

Point is we have players with that kind of pace but we just don't use them right.

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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 17, 2011, 12:38:29 PM: what worries me reading this thread is that the assumption in the majority of cases is that they are shit and doomed for relegation and its how many we will score

I am more concerned with the fact that if it is the same team as at Fulham then we will not break them down and they would more than settle for a point
Am early goal is critical in this game so we have to start with an attacking line up

And i am not sure he has the nous to do that - hope i am wrong
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on August 17, 2011, 01:08:02 PM: Quote from: Le Lapin on August 17, 2011, 10:03:39 AM
We should have enough to take these guys, the only thing that worries me is that they will be playing to save their managers skin.
I'd like to see how we'll play with Albrighton on the wing and maybe push Gabby or Heskey/Ireland to play behind or beside Bent. If Heskey and Gabby are going to be keeping Albrighton out of the team, well then I predict a very long season.
1-0 to us, an early N'Zog goal.

We dont have the personnel to play with two in the middle of a 442. Whenever Gabby or Heskey played up front with Bent last season they got in his way. Nzogbia needs to play on the left, Salgado had a mare against Wolves and should be targetted. I fear for McLeish if he goes with Heskey and Gabby as we will be playing into Blackburn's hands then and will struggle to break them down. He will deserve every bit of abuse he gets if we start hoofing it to Heskey when Blackburn are so weak.

Id play Ireland deeper alongside Petrov and Delph to get him into the game early. He was lost playing in the hole last season and we need to build his confidence back in an area where he will get the ball a lot. I wouldnt mind Albrighton starting either in a 433 with Bent and Nzogbia but would give Bannan a chance instead in this game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on August 17, 2011, 02:22:30 PM: routine victory against relegation contenders. 2-0 and Bent will score both
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on August 17, 2011, 02:34:12 PM: This is such a banana skin.

I have a dodgy feeling McCleish may go defensive again, he knows he can't afford to lose this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 17, 2011, 02:45:24 PM: Given
Young - Collins - Dunne - Warnock
Makoun - Stan - Delph
N'Zogbia
Gabby - Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on August 17, 2011, 02:48:39 PM: Isn't Given touch and go due to a groin strain? If he's doubtful i hope they don't risk him to be honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on August 17, 2011, 02:49:21 PM: Given
Young - Collins - Dune -Warnock
Petrov - Clark
Makoun
Albrighton ----------------N'zogbia
Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on August 17, 2011, 02:51:22 PM: Quote from: Ger Regan on August 17, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Isn't Given touch and go due to a groin strain? If he's doubtful i hope they don't risk him to be honest.

No disrespect to Blackburn, but this should be one of our easier home games this season. As such, if there is a game to be missing our No1 keeper for it would be better being this one than risking him and then losing him for 3 or 4 tougher fixtures.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 17, 2011, 02:51:23 PM: Quote from: Chipsticks on August 17, 2011, 02:34:12 PM
This is such a banana skin.

I have a dodgy feeling McCleish may go defensive again, he knows he can't afford to lose this.

I think he'll be fully aware of how important a win is as he tries to convince the doubters. We've already beaten them once and he will expect to do it again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on August 17, 2011, 02:52:09 PM: Quote from: John M'Zog on August 17, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
No disrespect to Blackburn, but this should be one of our easier home games this season. As such, if there is a game to be missing our No1 keeper for it would be better being this one than risking him and then losing him for 3 or 4 tougher fixtures.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 17, 2011, 03:15:14 PM: Quote from: Chipsticks on August 17, 2011, 02:49:21 PM
Given
Young - Collins - Dune -Warnock
Petrov - Clark
Makoun
Albrighton ----------------N'zogbia
Bent

That's pretty good,I'd like to see wee Barry in for Clark,push Jean the second back a bit.Either way I think Makoun must start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Merv on August 17, 2011, 03:23:26 PM: Blackburn look poor, though there didn't seem to be much between us and them when we played them a few weeks ago, which was pretty competitive for a pre-season game. I think we'll win, but a fairly tight affair: 2-1 to us. Bent and... well, it really does feel like the kind of game Collins will head in from a set-piece. Weird.

Again I'd like to see Makoun and Delph in midfield, with a trio of Albrighton, Bannan and N'Zogbia ahead of them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on August 17, 2011, 03:25:15 PM: Quote from: Ger Regan on August 17, 2011, 02:52:09 PM
Quote from: John M'Zog on August 17, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
No disrespect to Blackburn, but this should be one of our easier home games this season. As such, if there is a game to be missing our No1 keeper for it would be better being this one than risking him and then losing him for 3 or 4 tougher fixtures.
Exactly.

I thought it was the series of cup matches against Blackburn 2 seasons ago where Guzan struggled badly and hasn't recovered properly from since.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on August 17, 2011, 03:48:05 PM: Don't forget Blackburn don't play bullyboys tactics under big Sam anymore, now they are toothless team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fordbeck on August 17, 2011, 08:13:06 PM: £15 ticket, cheap(ish) pre match beer and 3 points
Does it get any better

Bent 1-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on August 17, 2011, 10:20:24 PM: I fancy Blackburn to struggle this season. This has got to be three points for us. Hopefully Samba and Nelsen will still be out injured. 3-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on August 17, 2011, 10:25:53 PM: It's ALWAYS 3-1 to us in these games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: greta on August 17, 2011, 10:56:08 PM: 3-1 villa. Bent x2 and Ireland. Let the good times roll.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brice jovial on August 18, 2011, 11:24:35 AM: Hei there. Wel i wrote about how Alex Mac has adopted the 4-2-3-1 formation.

Its how he decides to use the players in this sytem and we can question if we have the palyers for this system.

the key is not leave Bent isolated up front

A reliance or tendancy for long balls by passing central midfield is not on but can be easily resorted to by this villa team

or balls just to nzogbia to go and 'do his stuff ' can be rewarding but is not the way to play and other teams can find us out.

The way to play is to the strength of the players/team/formation so i suspect @home the wingers of albrighton and n'zogbia be introudced. They willbe switching flanks.

The make up of midfield and support attack is the tricky option Delph,Petrov and Bent are the certainites and expected untouchables .

The back four itself -Given to always be our no1
Collins and Dunne and Warnock and Young are curremtly the settled back four.
Alex Mac seemingly favouring the exprience/realiability/lack of options for these 4 defensive places.

Looking @ how we perfomed against Blackburn in the last season form home taking a 4-1 win was great. However it was Ash and Downing that caused the problems and scored the goals. Simialr perfomances from n'zogbia and albrighton can help the villa to a 2 to 3 goals scored 1 againstwin
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 18, 2011, 11:41:45 AM: 2-1 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brice jovial on August 18, 2011, 11:44:50 AM: What bookies say is the Vila are faves 8/11 by most.

Looking @ score lines then people.

I see some favour and are of the belief that its a 3-1
well 12/1.
gud luck

2-1 is 7/1 and is the most common scorelines in epl along with 1-1

Darren bent score anytime is real value @11/10

Could also see a few booking as 4 yellows for both teams so far !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on August 18, 2011, 12:17:40 PM: The problem is when you have a player like Darren Bent your between a rock and a hard place, it's not good to have him as a solitary player up front on his own, he's not exactly blessed with massive pace or ball skills and gets caught offside very often, which he takes the risk of doing in order to get that extra yard on his defender, or you play someone in support which then you have someone forcing him out of his instinctive skills of being in the box in the right place at the right time, hence the goal follow, which is what he's best at, so what to do.

You can play someone of him and behind him, personally I don't think Gabby is the right man for that, he's to fast which means he's pushing Bent that much further forward all the time or you go for someone like Ireland as a natural distributor of the ball in an advanced position, or indeed as it was Ashley Young being ideal. This is the problem Chelsea had with Drogba, as brilliant as Drogba is, Chelsea elected for a more modern creative package, spent 50ML on Torres and resigning Drogba to the bench, but that allows Chelsea to play more creative football.

If Ireland is still chocolate teapot stuff then we have to go into the transfer market again and get that kind of creative player otherwise to believe we are going to continue to milk Bent for a hopeful endless supply of goals and not imagine that Premiership defences have not now worked out there strategy to negate Bent this season is a risky business IMO.

The Blackburn game could be a good indicator of this due to there physical presence at the back, the other thing that would concern me as a blouse fan was telling a few days ago, he played Jerome exactly the same way, and Jerome became useless, pointing out of course that Jerome is not in the same cat as Bent, all the same though!!!!!.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brice jovial on August 18, 2011, 12:26:51 PM: Quote from: Villanation on August 18, 2011, 12:17:40 PM
The Blackburn game could be a good indicator of this due to there physical presence at the back, the other thing that would concern me as a blouse fan was telling a few days ago, he played Jerome exactly the same way, and Jerome became useless, pointing out of course that Jerome is not in the same cat as Bent, all the same though!!!!!.

Cameron jerome is alot like Gabby in potential rather than Darren Bent the goal scorer

Quote from: Villanation on August 18, 2011, 12:17:40 PM
The problem is when you have a player like Darren Bent your between a rock and a hard place, it's not good to have him as a solitary player up front on his own

You can play someone of him and behind him, personally I don't think Gabby is the right man for that

If Ireland is still chocolate teapot stuff then we have to go into the transfer market again and get that kind of creative player

I disagree Bent is the threat and play to his strengths you only play him in a 4-5-1 with support from wing and midfield
I agree gabby wuld not be effective behind bent but could play as a lone striker too so be used as his understudy

The KEY here is thow the other players and TEAM are around Bent

great points in making about creativity if ireland fails
however we all are aware no one is being brought in without us trading out due to heavy wage bill.

Joe Cole could be ideal as a palyer maker/dribbler
but you could say same about Ireland

i look forward to saturdays match
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on August 18, 2011, 12:44:51 PM: brice: Can't agree Jerome is a lot like Gabby, I don't think Jerome can even stand in Gabby's shadow in terms of the threat Gabby carries, I've always thought Jerome to one of the easiest players to take out of a game in the Premiership, you could never say that of Gabby, we should play Gabby the way Udinese play Armero the other night, that's the best way to use a player blessed with that kind of pace, but then your in the problem area of having the other type of players around him, Udinese didn't have the classic old style target man, as we do.

I agree Bent is ideal for being played as the predator in the box to get on the end of a cross or long ball, that's as well trodden a ground in football as it could be and when you have a good old fashioned centre forward like Bent it still works even today, but will it work enough, and for me i think defences will have adjusted to the way Villa play Bent and he will have a much tougher time this season then the later part of last season.

Obviously Ireland remains to be seen, but he must have his chance.

Blackburn will be a benchmark game, we win, all well and good we lose or draw and we are clearly are on the wrong road. Should be a good game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brice jovial on August 18, 2011, 12:56:53 PM: Ahh what i mean in regards to the gab and jermoe comparison is taht tehse two palyers are more suited to be compared :

Both were up and coming at the england under 21 level and having not taken on to senoir level - okie actually gab played for england a little.

They both have unfulfilled potential of scoring goals and being top stikers

That said there is no doubt Gabby is a better player yes by far and he is premiership standard

Jerome scored a cracking goal against liverpool and has been a handful with his own pace

agian this is where they are similar as pace is there best asset.

In relation to bent both dont compare in goal scoring terms
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brice jovial on August 18, 2011, 02:11:58 PM: AVFC team news GIVEN : Groin Injury was sustained against Fulham on 13/8. Alex McLeish is confident that Given will be available for the visit of Blackburn

Cuéllar had undergone an operation and would remain sidelined for three months. Reported on 17/8 that he was on course to return to training by the end of August.
BACK 27 th AUGUST

Blackburn team news -
Emerton Hamstring injury - grade one Withdrawn at half-time on 13/8 match against Wolves with problem. Steve Kean admitted on 15/8 player is likely to be absent for 9 to 10 days.
OUT OF MATCH
Givet Illness Missed the 2-1 defeat to Wolves on 13/8.
LIKELY TO COME BACK
Nelsen Knee injury Confirmed on 14/4 that he had undergone surgery ruling him out of for the rest of the season. Ruled out of squad for 13/8 season opener by Steve Kean on 12/8.
MATCH FITNESS BUT LIKELY TO START
Samba Groin Strain Is carrying a strain which ruled him out of the pre-season friendlies from 30/7 onwards.Included in squad for 13/8 game with Wolves and is EXPECTED TO FIGURE
(could be moving )
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on August 18, 2011, 04:01:41 PM: I don't care how we win but we need a win, hopefully with a clean sheet and playing good football but we need a win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on August 18, 2011, 05:44:08 PM: 0.0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulMc on August 18, 2011, 07:41:17 PM: Think it will be 1-1 with us struggling to create chances.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: GJH on August 18, 2011, 08:17:44 PM: 1-0 Blackburn - Pederson
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 19, 2011, 08:11:40 AM: Let's hope Big Eck has done his homework on this one. Get someone with a bit of pace running at Salgado, who seems to get slower as he gets ever older. He's their weak link i reckon. I'll go for 2-1. N'Zogbia with them both.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on August 19, 2011, 09:28:01 AM: Jimmy Anderson has predicted we'll win 2-0, so that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 19, 2011, 09:37:49 AM: I reckon Albrighton or Bannan will start, probably instead of Heskey. We'll win without conceding. Some people will still find a way to be unhappy about it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 19, 2011, 10:53:00 AM: Is Given Fit for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 19, 2011, 10:54:26 AM: I really hope Makoun gets a chance, and I hope we win I want a happy Saturday eve.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on August 19, 2011, 10:54:47 AM: Quote from: Phil from the upper holte on August 19, 2011, 10:53:00 AM
Is Given Fit for tomorrow?

He should be.

2-0 win. Bent and Gabby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 19, 2011, 10:57:39 AM: Is Samba fit for Blackburn?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SteveN on August 19, 2011, 11:09:48 AM: A scrappy 2-0 win which I will happily take.

Failure to get 3 points in this game will leave me extremely concerned for the rest of the season, despite me telling anyone who will listen that I'm totaly indifferent to football at all levels.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on August 19, 2011, 11:13:34 AM: A win. And it will have to be. 1:0, Bent, of course.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Cjamesk on August 19, 2011, 12:28:21 PM: Can't say I'm too excited about this game if I'm honest, got a typical VP boarless draw written all over it.

I'm going for a 1-0 Villa win but deep down I think we're going to lose 2-1 ( fingers crossed we wont! )

Just don't know about this season I'm not up for it at all not just the Villa mind, but with football in general.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 19, 2011, 12:56:11 PM: Anyone know what time McLeish's press confrence will be on AVTV/SSN?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 19, 2011, 01:06:45 PM: Quote from: JJ-AV on August 19, 2011, 12:56:11 PM
Anyone know what time McLeish's press confrence will be on AVTV/SSN?

Usually 2.30-3.00pm. Given has been passed fit ........
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 19, 2011, 01:49:57 PM: Quote from: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 19, 2011, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: JJ-AV on August 19, 2011, 12:56:11 PM
Anyone know what time McLeish's press confrence will be on AVTV/SSN?

Usually 2.30-3.00pm. Given has been passed fit ........

Good he's a massive plus for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 19, 2011, 02:05:20 PM: Quote from: Cjamesk on August 19, 2011, 12:28:21 PM
Can't say I'm too excited about this game if I'm honest, got a typical VP boarless draw written all over it.

I'm going for a 1-0 Villa win but deep down I think we're going to lose 2-1 ( fingers crossed we wont! )

Just don't know about this season I'm not up for it at all not just the Villa mind, but with football in general.

"Boarless draw"?

When pigs fly
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BILL DE VALL on August 19, 2011, 03:54:38 PM: a win for us methinks
Blackburn are at 6's and 7's at the mo -squadwise
we are a bit more settled
2-1 Bent to score 1st
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on August 19, 2011, 03:58:27 PM: I expect us to win this one; it'll be interesting to see how positive we are.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 19, 2011, 04:01:45 PM: 1-0 win

Collins header.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hartman_1982 on August 19, 2011, 04:12:51 PM: Ireland/Bannan in for Heskey and a Villa 3-0 win including Bent's first goal at the Holte End.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2011, 06:53:03 PM: We just have win this ...no choice.
COME ON THE VILLA!
and with this comment I will sign off my "International" career at H&V. Looking forward to a few years of Coaching!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 19, 2011, 08:00:56 PM: 2-0 us.

Bent to get both.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on August 19, 2011, 08:38:54 PM: I'm flying to Portugal tomorrow at 1545. When I land I am expecting a text saying 2-0 Villa :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: midnite on August 19, 2011, 09:15:19 PM: Sky sports "understands" Given is passed fit so AM may field unchanged side

I hope not. I hope for a more attacking set up at villa park. Makoun and/or Ireland in the side.

That said still expect a solid performance and a 2-0 win. Bent with is first goal at the holte end.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 19, 2011, 09:39:15 PM: rarely have i been so uninterested by our first home game of the season, i wont be going
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 19, 2011, 09:42:53 PM: Agree I don't want to see the same side. We need more creativity in the side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on August 19, 2011, 09:54:53 PM: Stuck at a wedding tomorrow so will have to follow this via the internet/text message... bugger!

I am quietly confident we will win this one; I'll go for 2-1 with Bent and Gabby on target

Would like to see some changes to the starting line up but hell, if we get the three points and put on a good display I am happy to bow to Big Eck's superior knowledge!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 19, 2011, 09:57:06 PM: Given
Young Collins Dunne Warnock
Albrighton Makoun Petrov NZogbia
Ireland
Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on August 19, 2011, 10:01:52 PM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on August 19, 2011, 09:57:06 PM
Given
Young Collins Dunne Warnock
Albrighton Makoun Petrov NZogbia
Ireland
Bent
yes, yes and yes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 19, 2011, 10:03:42 PM: Blackburn will be physical & play hoof ball, we need to beat that at playing on the ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 19, 2011, 10:14:56 PM: Pretty sure from Eck's comments that Heskey will be playing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Aston Manor on August 19, 2011, 10:24:43 PM: Quote from: Mazrim on August 16, 2011, 10:42:42 AM
3-1

Bent, Delph and N'Zogbia.

I'd go with...

Given

Young Collins Dunne Warnock

Makoun Petrov Delph

Ireland N'Zogbia

Bent

But I dont think he will for one minute.
I do think he'll stress the importance of attacking from the kick off at home and we'll get at them.

I think Blackburn will struggle this season and I'd be disappointed in anything other than a convincing win.
I also think they'll be weighed down with poor quality chicken.

Blackburn always throw balls into the box. That side is simply to small.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 19, 2011, 10:30:57 PM: it will be 4-4-2, exactly the team he played against Fulham, he might change Makoun and Delph, totaly uninspiring
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: midnite on August 19, 2011, 10:33:03 PM: With Heskey in we're encouraged to play long ball. Expecting him to flick on for someone else. That's not bents game picking up the flick ons. It's a waste of the talent we have in the rest of the squad too. I will not be happy at all with this style of play and will lose patients very quickly. setting up defensively away from home is one thing. Starting with the same line up as we did against fulham at villa park is something completely different.

But until the squad is announced tomorrow it's all speculative.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 12:14:37 AM: The same starting xi would be very functional and predictable. That might be enough to beat Blackburn but it wouldn't fill me with optimism. Surely we need a little more creativity and passing invention in the side?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 20, 2011, 12:23:55 AM: I am sure he will start with Heskey. Really worried he is going to go for the "do not lose at any cost" approach. If Heskey starts hope he will play a 4-4-2 with Albrighton and Nzogbia wide ............
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 20, 2011, 12:42:46 AM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on August 19, 2011, 09:57:06 PM
Given
Young Collins Dunne Warnock
Albrighton Makoun Petrov NZogbia
Ireland
Bent

The problem with this team is Ireland. How do we bring him into play if we have to feed the two wide men?

However this team suggested by Maz will work better for Ireland and probably for us:

Quote from: Mazrim on August 16, 2011, 10:42:42 AM
I'd go with...

Given

Young Collins Dunne Warnock

Makoun Petrov Delph

Ireland N'Zogbia

Bent

But I dont think he will for one minute.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 20, 2011, 12:48:17 AM: Quote from: Aston Manor on August 19, 2011, 10:24:43 PM

Blackburn always throw balls into the box. That side is simply to small.

Yes I can see how frightened Barca will be if they had to play Blackburn!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Moose on August 20, 2011, 06:16:29 AM: 0-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fordbeck on August 20, 2011, 07:27:55 AM: Heskey will be one of the first names down on the teamsheet
Really hope Ireland is nowhere near the squad, he is a cancer on our club
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on August 20, 2011, 08:35:55 AM: 0-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on August 20, 2011, 08:43:04 AM: We'll win with a more attacking line-up.

Bent and N'Zogbia to score!

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on August 20, 2011, 08:47:40 AM: Quote from: Irish villain on August 20, 2011, 08:43:04 AM
We'll win with a more attacking line-up.
Short of sticking Delfouneso in for Given I don't think you could get a more attacking lineup than we had last week.

I'd say that we'd better be far better off with a more pragmatic lineup like Maz suggests above rather than just throwing every striker we own on the pitch at once.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 20, 2011, 09:09:40 AM: A 2-0 win and dependent on other results....We are top of the league ! We are top of the league ! ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 20, 2011, 09:14:39 AM: I sit in K4 and i can garentee he will get alot of greef if he plays the same team at home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on August 20, 2011, 09:16:32 AM: 2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on August 20, 2011, 09:17:33 AM: I quite like the 4-2-3-1 formation as it seems well-suited to the players we currently have. So, if it were up to me, I'd go for:

Given

Young Collins Dunne Warnock

Petrov Delph

Albrighton Ireland N'Zogbia

Bent

Subs: Guzan, Clark, Lichaj, Makoun, Bannan, Agbonlahor, Heskey

That seems to me to give us a few options should we need to change personnel or formation. For example, Bannan on for Ireland if he is out in space somewhere, Makoun or Clark for Petrov should he look particularly knackered late on, Agbonlahor for Albrighton, maybe, if we need to inject some pace. We could also switch to 4-4-2 pretty easily too, with Gabby or Heskey on to partner Bent.

It looks like they'll actually have centre-backs playing for them today, although one of them is Ryan Nelson, so they'll be a bit more solid than they were against Wolves, sadly.

I think we'll win 2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 09:22:39 AM: Quote from: Dave on August 20, 2011, 08:47:40 AM
Quote from: Irish villain on August 20, 2011, 08:43:04 AM
We'll win with a more attacking line-up.
Short of sticking Delfouneso in for Given I don't think you could get a more attacking lineup than we had last week.

I'd say that we'd better be far better off with a
more pragmatic lineup like Maz suggests above
rather than just throwing every striker we own on
the pitch at once.

Putting fwds on the pitch can still allow you to start from a defensive formation. We still only had one playing up front

And it certainly doesn't make you creative. That side is utterly reliant on an unfit n'zogbia for creativity. I'd bring in at least one probably two more creative players: Ireland, bannan, albrighton, makoun.

But very undecided on the right mix. Would probably go: Ireland, petrov, delph - n'zogbia, bent, gabby
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 20, 2011, 09:24:45 AM: I'm surprised so many people want Ireland in the side. Bannan has done more in pre season to earn a place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on August 20, 2011, 09:27:37 AM: Quote from: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: Dave on August 20, 2011, 08:47:40 AM
Quote from: Irish villain on August 20, 2011, 08:43:04 AM
We'll win with a more attacking line-up.
Short of sticking Delfouneso in for Given I don't think you could get a more attacking lineup than we had last week.

I'd say that we'd better be far better off with a
more pragmatic lineup like Maz suggests above
rather than just throwing every striker we own on
the pitch at once.

Putting fwds on the pitch can still allow you to start from a defensive formation. We still only had one playing up front
But the lineup and the formation are two different things.

I agree that it was a very defensive formation against Fulham, but it was a very attacking lineup.

It also wasn't a very good one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 09:33:50 AM: My alternative would be bannan and n'zogbia wide, but not on the touchlines, gabby running the channels off bent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: spirit of 82 on August 20, 2011, 09:36:09 AM: I agree we need more creativity in the side,certainly dont need Heskey or gabby playing on the wings.I favour a 4, 3 2 1 line up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 20, 2011, 09:37:47 AM: Quote from: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 09:33:50 AM
My alternative would be bannan and n'zogbia wide, but not on the touchlines, gabby running the channels off bent.

I think that's we'll see today but perhaps Gabby playing slightly deeper if they go with an extra man in the middle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 20, 2011, 09:39:52 AM: Quote from: fordbeck on August 20, 2011, 07:27:55 AM
Heskey will be one of the first names down on the teamsheet
Really hope Ireland is nowhere near the squad, he is a cancer on our club

He wasn't the best last year his head clearly wasn't in it and he fell out with houllier. He's since moved house and said he wants to make a go of it. To call him cancer is a bit strong in my opinion
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 20, 2011, 09:49:16 AM: After sleeping on it, I think we'll go for the same team as we did v Fulham.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 20, 2011, 10:02:45 AM: Ireland has done nothing I have seen or heard about to deserve preference to Barry Bannan except talk the talk. Ireland is a busted flush in my opinion.

The first name on the team sheet will be Heskey.

We will play with 10 men for a lot of the game and come back with a late 2 - 2 equalizer scored by Darren Bent.

The jury considering their verdict on Alex McLeish will remain out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: django on August 20, 2011, 10:31:48 AM: My prediction 1-1 (and an H&V meltdown)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 10:42:28 AM: Kendrick reckons we'll stick with 4231. I reckon albrighton for gabby the only change.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 20, 2011, 10:50:29 AM: Quote from: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
Kendrick reckons we'll stick with 4231. I reckon albrighton for gabby the only change.

I don't mind that formation as long as we get the right players in the right positions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on August 20, 2011, 11:02:06 AM: Quote from: PaulWinch on August 20, 2011, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: Matt Collins on August 20, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
Kendrick reckons we'll stick with 4231. I reckon albrighton for gabby the only change.

I don't mind that formation as long as we get the right players in the right positions.

Spot on, and especially the front four.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on August 20, 2011, 11:14:19 AM: 4-1 and a hatrick for Agbonlahor.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2011, 11:15:19 AM: Quote from: Chris Smith on August 20, 2011, 09:24:45 AM
I'm surprised so many people want Ireland in the side. Bannan has done more in pre season to earn a place.

I agree, Bannan was excellent pre-season. I think he'll bring him on during the second half though if we're winning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 20, 2011, 11:16:41 AM: Ireland played 15 minutes at Walsall then was unfit for the rest of it IMO.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2011, 11:19:12 AM: Quote from: Phil from the upper holte on August 20, 2011, 09:39:52 AM
Quote from: fordbeck on August 20, 2011, 07:27:55 AM
Heskey will be one of the first names down on the teamsheet
Really hope Ireland is nowhere near the squad, he is a cancer on our club

He wasn't the best last year his head clearly wasn't in it and he fell out with houllier. He's since moved house and said he wants to make a go of it. To call him cancer is a bit strong in my opinion

Cancer is a bit strong, but he's a bit mental. I see he's had a tattoo on his lower lip.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ROBBO on August 20, 2011, 11:24:14 AM: Did anyone else think Nzog was a little off the pace last week?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 20, 2011, 11:40:34 AM: What does the tattoo on Ireland's lower lip say? How's this for a pout?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on August 20, 2011, 11:44:10 AM: Same back 5 as last week.
Makoun, Petrov and Delph should form the central midfield.
N'Zog, Albrighton and Bent should start.

Petrov should give way after 60mins to allow Bannan on. At the same time - depending on the game's progress - Gabby replaces N'Zog or Alb.

Probably won't happen
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 20, 2011, 11:52:32 AM: Whatever you think, I'm sure I can't be the only one who's getting really excited again about approaching the Holte End, walking through the turnstiles, walking out to see the pitch, taking your seat, the players coming out and the whistle to get the game going and all the highs and lows that come througout a game - there's nothing else quite like it!

I'm really looking forward to it - I can't wait!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on August 20, 2011, 11:52:48 AM: Quote from: ROBBO on August 20, 2011, 11:24:14 AM
Did anyone else think Nzog was a little off the pace last week?

You could say he needs a few minutes to settle in, however he is an experienced Premiership player, he was suffering from pre-season for me but most of all I think the misconception is that he was got in to replace Downing and or Young, therein lies the problem because I don't think he's quite the player Ashley Young is and you only have to look at how Young has slotted into Man Utd one of the world's best and looks like he's been a major part of there side for years, quality, for me N'Zogbia still has a lot to prove and it could go either way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2011, 11:53:50 AM: Quote from: brian green on August 20, 2011, 11:40:34 AM
What does the tattoo on Ireland's lower lip say? How's this for a pout?

It's the Superman logo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on August 20, 2011, 11:55:44 AM: Quote from: N'Clampy on August 20, 2011, 11:53:50 AM
Quote from: brian green on August 20, 2011, 11:40:34 AM
What does the tattoo on Ireland's lower lip say? How's this for a pout?

It's the Superman logo.

Well at least he has a sense of humour....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 20, 2011, 12:13:23 PM: 9-0, Heskey (9).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tom jennings IV on August 20, 2011, 12:15:28 PM: Quote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on August 20, 2011, 11:52:32 AM
Whatever you think, I'm sure I can't be the only one who's getting really excited again about approaching the Holte End, walking through the turnstiles, walking out to see the pitch, taking your seat, the players coming out and the whistle to get the game going and all the highs and lows that come througout a game - there's nothing else quite like it!

I'm really looking forward to it - I can't wait!

Wish I was there today, last week was good but nothing beats the first home game. Up the Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on August 20, 2011, 12:28:53 PM: Quote from: tom jennings IV on August 20, 2011, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on August 20, 2011, 11:52:32 AM
Whatever you think, I'm sure I can't be the only one who's getting really excited again about approaching the Holte End, walking through the turnstiles, walking out to see the pitch, taking your seat, the players coming out and the whistle to get the game going and all the highs and lows that come througout a game - there's nothing else quite like it!

I'm really looking forward to it - I can't wait!

Wish I was there today, last week was good but nothing beats the first home game. Up the Villa!

Huge game with a lot at stake, this is not just about the first home game of the season, or the fact that we need a win, we are playing one of the hottest tipped clubs for relegation, Wolves so proved that last week, Villa have to win this and McLiesh knows it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2011, 12:31:43 PM: I'm so stupidly and childishly excited about getting down to VP again!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on August 20, 2011, 12:34:46 PM: Good. Glad someone is among all the miserable buggers these days.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 20, 2011, 12:36:45 PM: Surely Emile is due a goal. He normally score every year without fail and if I remember right his last goal was v B burn in the cup last season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on August 20, 2011, 12:43:06 PM: Gabby is vital today, he needs a really good season and the team need gabby back at where he was a couple of seasons ago, we need that today,

Turn it up and enjoy.

Come on you Villa boys.....................................
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on August 20, 2011, 12:43:49 PM: 2-1 Villa. Bent and Gabby for us. Collins own goal on 85 mins making it a nervous ending with Given making a match winning save. Come on you Lions!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2011, 01:32:33 PM: Time to head off to Villa Park, come on you Villa boys!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on August 20, 2011, 01:48:50 PM: Come on Villa!!! That video of Gabby was ace! I'd forgotten how effective he can be.

2-0 win today please Villa :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on August 20, 2011, 01:53:20 PM: Actually looking forward to watching this, going to go for a 3-0 win, two for Bent and one for the Zog.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Caiphus on August 20, 2011, 01:56:06 PM: Quote from: nelrazor1 on August 20, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
Come on Villa!!! That video of Gabby was ace! I'd forgotten how effective he can be.

2-0 win today please Villa :)

I think Gabby needs to watch it too, so he can remember how effective he can be...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fordbeck on August 20, 2011, 02:26:42 PM: Strong line up again