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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 02, 2011, 03:17:49 PM
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2407182,00.html
As I found out when I called to the ticket office this morning, they have sold the advance ticket allocation.
But its £12/ £6 concessions on the gate.
Its only about 40 minutes up the A38 and a new signing to see too !
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N'Zogbia is not in the squad, just so you're aware!
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That does surprise me - presumably his fitness is still short after the holiday and starting training late?
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I'll leaving work in Leicester at 4pm and making my way straight up there. The Crown & Cushion by the station is recommended in both the H&V away guide and Derby's official site. Come out the station and bear slightly left (not through the taxi rank, that's too far left!). It's only about 100m to the junction on London Rd where the pub is. If I remember correctly then there's at least one other pub that is away fan friendly directly opposite the station (about 20m) when/if the other one becomes too full. The ground is behind the station, accessible via a bridge over the tracks in the station then just follow the crowd. It's about 10-15 mins walk. The pubs etc are out the front of the station, it's offices/industrial estates behind.
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these friendlies are expensive I reckon .. about time they gave us a pound for turning up.. well at least there will be no screaming camera snappy chelsea top chinese there spunking over Torres...
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No Nzogbia?
Gutted..Im going
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N'Zogbia is not in the squad, just so you're aware!
Gutted ! I'm going.How do you know ?
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Mat Kendrick posted on Twitter yesterday - Coaches want to check his fitness properly before they throw him into action.
Designated away pubs for this by the way, are Crown and Cushion and Florence Nightingale for Rail travellers and The Navigation for 'Private Transport' travellers.
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Mat Kendrick posted on Twitter yesterday - Coaches want to check his fitness properly before they throw him into action.
Designated away pubs for this by the way, are Crown and Cushion and Florence Nightingale for Rail travellers and The Navigation for 'Private Transport' travellers.
Cheers :)
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Does anybody know of any (preferebly free) places to park? I've had a look on the H&V guide and there is a place opposite the Navigation pub but I take it we'll be charged there?
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Does anybody know of any (preferebly free) places to park? I've had a look on the H&V guide and there is a place opposite the Navigation pub but I take it we'll be charged there?
Check this site.
http://www.footballgroundguide.com/derby_county/
'There is free street parking available on Downing Road on the West Meadow Industrial Estate (DE21 6HA), which is off the A52. It is then about about a 10-15 minute walk to the stadium.
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Unreserved seating.
I'm in Upper tier.
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Thanks ALITA
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Mat Kendrick posted on Twitter yesterday - Coaches want to check his fitness properly before they throw him into action.
Designated away pubs for this by the way, are Crown and Cushion and Florence Nightingale for Rail travellers and The Navigation for 'Private Transport' travellers.
I'm glad they catered for Andy Carrol but I'm surprised he is coming to watch us play.
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Designated away pubs? It's a pre-season friendly, can't we just have a pint in whatever pub we like?
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The Alexandra and The Brunswick are the places to go, nice pubs & great beers.
Both 1-2 mins from the station and a gentle 10 mins stroll to the ground.
http://www.everards.co.uk/pubs/brunswick_inn_24/ (http://www.everards.co.uk/pubs/brunswick_inn_24/)
http://alexandrahotelderby.co.uk/ (http://alexandrahotelderby.co.uk/)
The Navigation, Crown & Cushion and Florence Nightingale are all Grade A shit-holes.
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The Florence Nightingale isnt as bad as it used to be.
I was in there earlier this year.
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Looking forward to this. A38 or M42 best way to go from Selly Oak area?
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M42. Easy.
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Me and a few others are going. We're either stopping on route in Burton or going straight to Derby, not sure yet. Looking forward to it though, i wonder if Petrov will try another one from the half way line.
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I'm going from Burton, if your stopping in Burton for a few I recommend the Devonshire Arms, 2 mins walk from the station. Turn right on your way out, down the hill, pass the Roebuck Pub (not great) . The Devonshire is a great Pub owned by Burton Brewery, so some great Ales if your in to that, lots of other choices too.
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Just been offered a place in a box for tonight. Free food and drink and a lift there and back, tough choice.
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Just been offered a place in a box for tonight. Free food and drink and a lift there and back, tough choice.
no it's not. Take the box, the free food and drink and ride to and from. It's not tough at all.
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Just been offered a place in a box for tonight. Free food and drink and a lift there and back, tough choice.
Jammy bastard!!!
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I'm going from Burton, if your stopping in Burton for a few I recommend the Devonshire Arms, 2 mins walk from the station. Turn right on your way out, down the hill, pass the Roebuck Pub (not great) . The Devonshire is a great Pub owned by Burton Brewery, so some great Ales if your in to that, lots of other choices too.
Thanks for that, i'll bear it in mind if we jump off at Burton. No, i'm not keen on Great Ales, they're not great at all. The few that i've tried all tasted like warm fart.
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I'm going from Burton, if your stopping in Burton for a few I recommend the Devonshire Arms, 2 mins walk from the station. Turn right on your way out, down the hill, pass the Roebuck Pub (not great) . The Devonshire is a great Pub owned by Burton Brewery, so some great Ales if your in to that, lots of other choices too.
Thanks for that, i'll bear it in mind if we jump off at Burton. No, i'm not keen on Great Ales, they're not great at all. The few that i've tried all tasted like warm fart.
Ha Ha, nor am I to be fair. May have to be a few Desperado's or a nice Belgian Duvel!
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/sAFjAundsw0IbHjWdJRds5A/view.m?id=15&gid=football/2011/aug/03/andre-villas-boas-john-terry&cat=football
Not entirely relevant to this thread, especially when we're discussing pubs but Terry mentioned this in a recent interview, when he was discussing Villas Boas:
I've been speaking to a couple of the other lads at Villa and Blackburn. They're on double sessions and they're busting their guts basically every day. Whereas I think football has moved on a bit from a few years back, and he certainly understands that, and listens, and takes on board what we say."
Certainly explains why we were looking so knackered v Chelsea but also it'll be interesting to see which method is correct.
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Cant make it tonight. Any coverage of the game online?
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Is it on AVTV?
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/sAFjAundsw0IbHjWdJRds5A/view.m?id=15&gid=football/2011/aug/03/andre-villas-boas-john-terry&cat=football
Not entirely relevant to this thread, especially when we're discussing pubs but Terry mentioned this in a recent interview, when he was discussing Villas Boas:
I've been speaking to a couple of the other lads at Villa and Blackburn. They're on double sessions and they're busting their guts basically every day. Whereas I think football has moved on a bit from a few years back, and he certainly understands that, and listens, and takes on board what we say."
Certainly explains why we were looking so knackered v Chelsea but also it'll be interesting to see which method is correct.
Chelsea are an ageing side, and clearly have taken the early upper hand on the boss.
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The Alexandra and The Brunswick are the places to go, nice pubs & great beers.
Both 1-2 mins from the station and a gentle 10 mins stroll to the ground.
http://www.everards.co.uk/pubs/brunswick_inn_24/ (http://www.everards.co.uk/pubs/brunswick_inn_24/)
http://alexandrahotelderby.co.uk/ (http://alexandrahotelderby.co.uk/)
The Navigation, Crown & Cushion and Florence Nightingale are all Grade A shit-holes.
Jealous of anyone going in the Brunswick, great pub!
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Guzan, Herd, Beye, Clark, Lowry, Delph, Makoun, Ireland, Bannan, Albrighton, Bent
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Derby: Fielding, Brayford, Shackell, Tyson, Maguire, Bailey, Davies, Cywka, Hendrick, O'Brien, Kilbane
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Guzan, Herd, Beye, Clark, Lowry, Delph, Makoun, Ireland, Bannan, Albrighton, Bent
He played his strongest possible defence in the two games in HK so I suppose he wants to see what his weakest can do. Can possibly see us losing but it is only right to give all members a chance. Hopefully he will play Gary Gardner most of the second half.
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any score?
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Still 0-0: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/TV/LiveEventsDetail/0,,10265~2409025,00.html
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40 mins no score
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HT 0-0
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Would it be fair to describe this is as a minimalist match thread?
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Matt Kendricks tweets seem to suggest he's doing well to stay awake...
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wow. This really is a pre-seaon friendly. Move along now nothing to see here. I want the season to start and the transfer window to shut. Get down to proper business and all that.
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Let's see if any of us can get a swearword into the live Villa website text coverage.
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Who was the young lad that people said played well in the Walsall game? He came on as a sub?
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Who was the young lad that people said played well in the Walsall game? He came on as a sub?
Heskey?
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In English? Or maybe suggest a 'foreigner' as a new signing? Connasse is available from Putain de Merde.
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Seems an odd team. thought he'd play a stronger team than that.
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Derby penalty
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In English? Or maybe suggest a 'foreigner' as a new signing? Connasse is available from Putain de Merde.
Good plan that.
Bugger... pen to Derby while I was looking up obscure swearwords in my French dictionary.
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1-0.
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Who was the young lad that people said played well in the Walsall game? He came on as a sub?
Dan Johnson? Went close with one that hit the crossbar.
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Who was the young lad that people said played well in the Walsall game? He came on as a sub?
Dan Johnson? Went close with one that hit the crossbar.
Graham Burke looked very good against Walsall.
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Can't read too much into a friendly. But I do get the feeling a long hard season beckons. Not sure it can be too much worse than last yr. But you never know!
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I'm not sure it's that weak a team going fwds. Bent, Ireland, alby, makoun and possibly bannan if n'zogbia isn't fit, are all quite likely to start v fulham I reckon.
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As you said Mat, just a friendly. start panicking if we get hammered at fulham
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Any changes made at HT?
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Fonz, Hogg, Gardner for Delph, Bent, Makoun
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2-0.
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Who was the young lad that people said played well in the Walsall game? He came on as a sub?
Dan Johnson? Went close with one that hit the crossbar.
Graham Burke looked very good against Walsall.
Burke is the one. I take it he is not on the subs bench?
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
Didn't we get to Wembley twice and finish 6th after winning the peace cup?
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
y the fuck would u do that the board r gd they r giving us money to buy o'neil left us in a state no the board
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
y the fuck would u do that the board r gd they r giving us money to buy o'neil left us in a state no the board
Is this a new language?
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y the fuck would u do that the board r gd they r giving us money to buy o'neil left us in a state no the board
Say what now?
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ooops. At least it's only a run out for those on the periphery.
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
y the fuck would u do that the board r gd they r giving us money to buy o'neil left us in a state no the board
Is this a new language?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_I4ylzbrTE
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I put a fiver on us at 5/6 to win I must stop gambling.
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
y the fuck would u do that the board r gd they r giving us money to buy o'neil left us in a state no the board
heh. Post of the year so far.
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
y the fuck would u do that the board r gd they r giving us money to buy o'neil left us in a state no the board
Hello.
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
y the fuck would u do that the board r gd they r giving us money to buy o'neil left us in a state no the board
Look up the word sarcasm in a dictionary, then come back to us. Oh and just so you know, text speak isn't particularly welcome around here.
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We lost.
Ah well.
Good luck at the week-end Derby.
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I've seen some great first posts.
I'll leave it at that.
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If you can be arsed the will be shown in full on AVTV @ 10am tomorrow.
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I think I agree with the new poster. Can't be sure though.
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Such is life, hopefully it helped build our fitness.
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So whats the excuse this time? Jet Lag?
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Worrying signs in that we created hardly anything, one decent effort on goal and Ireland looked anonymous- only a friendly but a little concerned by this performance.
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I said at the start I could see us losing with such a back up defence playing, and then we reduced our midfield and attack in the second half as well looking at the subs. I don't disagree with this as we need to know if the backups can do the job in the worst case scenario for injuries. It would be nice to know if we did create anything though and just didn't finish or whether we didn't even threaten.
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Meh. Only a friendly. It wasn't even our first choice team so we can't really complain.
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At least Chris Smith probably got pissed for nothing ..
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I'm not bothered by the loss, results in preseason don't really matter. Doesn't change anything we still need a couple of players in. A fullback and a centre mid.
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The creativity side of things is worrying. Young and Downing out and Albrighton having the inevitable dip that a young player coming onto the scene gets, leaves us very exposed. A central midfield man that can anchor properly and let Ireland, Delph, even Petrov roam forward is a must, as is a backup wide option, Albrighton can't be what we pin it all on.
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N'Zogbia?
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How many shots have we had on target in 3 games against Blackburn, Chelsea and derby ? Probably can count them on one hand over the 3 games, let's hope nzogbia makes a big difference.
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Where are the posters gone who said that we've improved already showing really positive signs when we beat Blackburn?
I did kind of say it's silly to base judgement off one pre-season game. I think McNegative is just trying to experiment trying to work out the best formation, what system works best and which set of players to use. I wouldn't read too much into the loss. Just look at the defence tonight.
Oh well. Lets just hope we're ready for Fulham in 10 days.
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Against Blackburn we played ok , nothing special but well enough , against Chelsea and derby we were poor .
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As soon as it became clear that N'Zobia was our last 'incoming' my fear was we were dreadfully low on creativity and goals. Pinning your hopes on Ireland coming good is a big risk.
No doubt we'll hear about tiredness, jet lag, hot conditions in Hong Kong etc... so instead of a home friendly on Saturday what are we doing....pissing off to the 90C heat of Portugal.
The thinking and planning behind our pre-season has been poor.
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It was hardly the first XI lads. Well i hope so. purely a match fitness exercise to my mind given the starting line-up
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Meh. Only a friendly. It wasn't even our first choice team so we can't really complain.
As I mentioned, I'm not complaining as such and didn't expect that defence to keep Derby out, but it was pretty much the first choice attack less Chuck and if Eastie is correct, we didn't have any threat from that front-line.
We seem to be heading into the new season with the major worry that if Bent doesn't score or play, we will be hoping for a 0-0 at best. At the moment Bent has had a hand in all of our goals this pre-season and if he hadn't hit the post against Walsall, it would have been 100% Bent only. Still, I expect to see 'Zog playing against Braga in our last test before the serious business starts and seeing some comfort there.
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Without Downing and Ash the side will need to get used to each other. It won't happen straight away. N'Zogbia will help a lot when he finally gets up to speed.
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Biggest worry for me is that Ireland looks miles away from the player he was at city- we will need him at his best and I hope he delivers for us , albrighton had a decent chance but in truth very little created tonight and we had some of our big guns in midfield and up front.
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Without Downing and Ash the side will need to get used to each other. It won't happen straight away. N'Zogbia will help a lot when he finally gets up to speed.
He might be the final piece that meshes into the team and we become a decent unit, but if getting up to speed means he doesn't start playing to his full potential until Sept, haggling so much over the million and then having another week from agreement before the actual signing starts to look like poor business.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
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Without Downing and Ash the side will need to get used to each other. It won't happen straight away. N'Zogbia will help a lot when he finally gets up to speed.
He might be the final piece that meshes into the team and we become a decent unit, but if getting up to speed means he doesn't start playing to his full potential until Sept, haggling so much over the million and then having another week from agreement before the actual signing starts to look like poor business.
We didn't 'haggle so much'. We made one offer, it was rejected, made another offer a few days later and he signed within the week. That's how transfers are conducted.
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look on the bright side. Usually by this time we're still waiting for our 1st signing let alone worrying whether he'll mesh with the team
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
i'm guessing not. I know some on here believe he's gonna be a star but i don't 'get' delpth i must say.
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Against Blackburn we played ok , nothing special but well enough , against Chelsea and derby we were poor .
I thought we were pretty much the same in both games. Defence a bit dishevelled, midfield unable to hold the ball and front players feeding off scraps, with the saving grace of one or two creditable individual performances.
The difference was the quality of the opposition.
This will probably be what the coming season will be all about. How bad the other teams are.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
i'm guessing not. I know some on here believe he's gonna be a star but i don't 'get' delpth i must say.
Or how to spell his name. ;)
Sometimes he can produce something special if you look at some of the balls he has delivered and the passes he has made. That said so can Bannan or even Ireland. For me he really has to have a good season as he has struggled to get going at Villa. You can only be promising for so long.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
i'm guessing not. I know some on here believe he's gonna be a star but i don't 'get' delpth i must say.
me too i'm afraid - don't get him or the hype at all :-(
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
i'm guessing not. I know some on here believe he's gonna be a star but i don't 'get' delpth i must say.
Or how to spell his name. ;)
Sometimes he can produce something special if you look at some of the balls he has delivered and the passes he has made. That said so can Bannan or even Ireland. For me he really has to have a good season as he has struggled to get going at Villa. You can only be promising for so long.
yep thats not far off my view really. I don't rate him much higher than some of our promising youth midfielders so when you consider how much he cost us.
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Without Downing and Ash the side will need to get used to each other. It won't happen straight away. N'Zogbia will help a lot when he finally gets up to speed.
He might be the final piece that meshes into the team and we become a decent unit, but if getting up to speed means he doesn't start playing to his full potential until Sept, haggling so much over the million and then having another week from agreement before the actual signing starts to look like poor business.
We didn't 'haggle so much'. We made one offer, it was rejected, made another offer a few days later and he signed within the week. That's how transfers are conducted.
I will bow to your potential insider knowledge of the inner workings of the deal on how much contact was made between the clubs. All I can say is the press stated on the 15th July that we had put a bid in for him and he officially signed on the 29th July. That is two weeks between the two and potentially 10 days of N'Zog not being in the squad / getting to know his team mates.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
i'm guessing not. I know some on here believe he's gonna be a star but i don't 'get' delpth i must say.
Or how to spell his name. ;)
Sometimes he can produce something special if you look at some of the balls he has delivered and the passes he has made. That said so can Bannan or even Ireland. For me he really has to have a good season as he has struggled to get going at Villa. You can only be promising for so long.
How old is he, 20/21?
I know it seems like he's been around a while, seeing as he started so young at Leeds.
But I don't think we're anywhere near the cut off point just yet.
He should be targeting 10-15 league games this season though -minimum. Obv more if he does well enough to stay in the side.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
i'm guessing not. I know some on here believe he's gonna be a star but i don't 'get' delpth i must say.
Or how to spell his name. ;)
Sometimes he can produce something special if you look at some of the balls he has delivered and the passes he has made. That said so can Bannan or even Ireland. For me he really has to have a good season as he has struggled to get going at Villa. You can only be promising for so long.
yep thats not far off my view really. I don't rate him much higher than some of our promising youth midfielders so when you consider how much he cost us.
Think he has the potential to be a top quality midfielder, that said was disappointed with his performance vs Chelsea on Saturday.
I have seen enough of him "live" though to think he has something about him, so count me as one of the believers. Don't forget also that he has had two serious injuries since he has been here and has hardly played !!. If he has started 15-20 games that would be about it, is my guess.
So lets give the kid a chance eh?
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Without Downing and Ash the side will need to get used to each other. It won't happen straight away. N'Zogbia will help a lot when he finally gets up to speed.
He might be the final piece that meshes into the team and we become a decent unit, but if getting up to speed means he doesn't start playing to his full potential until Sept, haggling so much over the million and then having another week from agreement before the actual signing starts to look like poor business.
We didn't 'haggle so much'. We made one offer, it was rejected, made another offer a few days later and he signed within the week. That's how transfers are conducted.
I will bow to your potential insider knowledge of the inner workings of the deal on how much contact was made between the clubs. All I can say is the press stated on the 15th July that we had put a bid in for him and he officially signed on the 29th July. That is two weeks between the two and potentially 10 days of N'Zog not being in the squad / getting to know his team mates.
We did very well to get him after 10 days. Wigan did all they could to sell him for more and to a team other than Villa.
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Without Downing and Ash the side will need to get used to each other. It won't happen straight away. N'Zogbia will help a lot when he finally gets up to speed.
He might be the final piece that meshes into the team and we become a decent unit, but if getting up to speed means he doesn't start playing to his full potential until Sept, haggling so much over the million and then having another week from agreement before the actual signing starts to look like poor business.
We didn't 'haggle so much'. We made one offer, it was rejected, made another offer a few days later and he signed within the week. That's how transfers are conducted.
I will bow to your potential insider knowledge of the inner workings of the deal on how much contact was made between the clubs. All I can say is the press stated on the 15th July that we had put a bid in for him and he officially signed on the 29th July. That is two weeks between the two and potentially 10 days of N'Zog not being in the squad / getting to know his team mates.
Even if it was two weeks - and I don't honestly know - that's not a particularly long time for a close season transfer. How long, for example, did the Ashley Young deal drag on for?
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look on the bright side. Usually by this time we're still waiting for our 1st signing let alone worrying whether he'll mesh with the team
Yes, going on the one season when we didn't sign anyone in July since Randy took over, (or as I call it, last year), you do have a point.
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Starting to worry now. I know it is only a friendly, but I would expect what is with the exception of N'Zogbia likely to be our first choice midfield and attack this season to be able to score goals against Derby County.
Can't see past bottom six at the moment based on pre season indications. Ireland does not look any better than last season, Warnock still looks poor, as do Collins and Dunne. Albrighton on current form is not a good replacement for Downing either.
If Bent or Given or N'Zogbia pick up an injury we are going to be in real trouble.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
i'm guessing not. I know some on here believe he's gonna be a star but i don't 'get' delpth i must say.
Or how to spell his name. ;)
Sometimes he can produce something special if you look at some of the balls he has delivered and the passes he has made. That said so can Bannan or even Ireland. For me he really has to have a good season as he has struggled to get going at Villa. You can only be promising for so long.
yep thats not far off my view really. I don't rate him much higher than some of our promising youth midfielders so when you consider how much he cost us.
Think he has the potential to be a top quality midfielder, that said was disappointed with his performance vs Chelsea on Saturday.
I have seen enough of him "live" though to think he has something about him, so count me as one of the believers. Don't forget also that he has had two serious injuries since he has been here and has hardly played !!. If he has started 15-20 games that would be about it, is my guess.
So lets give the kid a chance eh?
yeah...said before its a big season for him and i take the point about the injury that would have put anyone back let alone a kid. Good or bad, i can't seehow he's not gonna get his chance this season so we shall see....
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
i'm guessing not. I know some on here believe he's gonna be a star but i don't 'get' delpth i must say.
Or how to spell his name. ;)
Sometimes he can produce something special if you look at some of the balls he has delivered and the passes he has made. That said so can Bannan or even Ireland. For me he really has to have a good season as he has struggled to get going at Villa. You can only be promising for so long.
yep thats not far off my view really. I don't rate him much higher than some of our promising youth midfielders so when you consider how much he cost us.
agree - he needs to produce this year- i'm really hoping he proves to be better than i'm giving him credit for
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look on the bright side. Usually by this time we're still waiting for our 1st signing let alone worrying whether he'll mesh with the team
Yes, going on the one season when we didn't sign anyone in July since Randy took over, (or as I call it, last year), you do have a point.
i wasn't being entirely serious, just a light hearted comment. :0)
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Even if it was two weeks - and I don't honestly know - that's not a particularly long time for a close season transfer. How long, for example, did the Ashley Young deal drag on for?
Manure still signed Ash before the players reported for duty for pre season so he has managed to get as much time with his new team mates as possible, although it helps that the manager could say who he wanted even before the end of last season.
You are correct that 2 weeks is not that long, and with the idea of other signings being made it would not be as big an issue. But with Alex being quoted (misquoted?) again that no other signings were to be made, having Chuck hitting the ground running is more important then ever. So the more time he can spend with his new team mates, the more chance of that happening.
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Even if it was two weeks - and I don't honestly know - that's not a particularly long time for a close season transfer. How long, for example, did the Ashley Young deal drag on for?
Manure still signed Ash before the players reported for duty for pre season so he has managed to get as much time with his new team mates as possible, although it helps that the manager could say who he wanted even before the end of last season.
You are correct that 2 weeks is not that long, and with the idea of other signings being made it would not be as big an issue. But with Alex being quoted (misquoted?) again that no other signings were to be made, having Chuck hitting the ground running is more important then ever. So the more time he can spend with his new team mates, the more chance of that happening.
I would hope a couple of weeks will be plenty. I was once told "Give a player an excuse and he'll take it" and I have a feeling our manager won't be quite so accommodating as some of his predecessors.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
The commentator on AVTV said he was one of our better players before being taken off, although a few of his long passes didn't come off. A reverse of his performance against Chelsea where he was one of our poorer players but put in some good long passes out wide which our wingers made pigs' ears of.
I was impressed with how he played even out of position at the end of last year and reckon he'll come good. Not too bothered how he plays in friendlies so long as he's match fit for the Fuggers game.
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yeah...said before its a big season for him and i take the point about the injury that would have put anyone back let alone a kid. Good or bad, i can't seehow he's not gonna get his chance this season so we shall see....
As a kid, hopefully they are most likely to heal and recover from it these days. He has had some smashing games but he has not been able to put a run together of games in the middle due to getting niggling injuries or our situations of either challenging at the top, or trying to escape relegation.
The same can be said of Gary Gardner, no opportunities followed by a big injury suspending his development. I would have liked to see him in some games last season when we were safe but he wasn't even on the bench.
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The same can be said of Gary Gardner, no opportunities followed by a big injury suspending his development. I would have liked to see him in some games last season when we were safe but he wasn't even on the bench.
The trouble is that these days there's so much prize money at stake clubs can't afford to give kids a run-out. Reasons to hate football (cont)....
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I'm still worried that we're way too light on the squad. Nothing like strong enough.
However, I've been worried about that for a while.
A meaningless pre-season friendly in which we played a load of second stringers shouldn't really be enough to swing anyone's opinion - either doomwards or towards happlyclappyland.
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I'm still worried that we're way too light on the squad. Nothing like strong enough.
However, I've been worried about that for a while.
A meaningless pre-season friendly in which we played a load of second stringers shouldn't really be enough to swing anyone's opinion - either doomwards or towards happlyclappyland.
WORD. means nowt in the big scheme of things
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I went not very impressed, I know it was a friendly but we created nothing, albrighton, makoun, delph poor, Ireland had alot of the ball but didn't hurt them, there was no service to bent and one shot
Fonz is not the player people think he is and his first touch is very poor. Disappointed we didn't at least try two up front
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Sack the Board!
Don't give a shite about the result in all honesty, it's more match fitness and game time in the legs -even for some of those who might not feature heavily this year.
Plus a good pre season results wise almost guarantees a problematic nine and a bit months. It's the law.
y the fuck would u do that the board r gd they r giving us money to buy o'neil left us in a state no the board
You'd better look to your laurels Mr. Woodhall, this man is a master of the English language. I predict he will be hailed as the Shakespeare of the 21st. century.
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Felt like a training match more than a friendly, nothing too meaningful to take from it on our part. That said, I'd still like to have seen a but more from Albrighton, Bannan & Ireland on whom we're seemingly pinning a lot of hopes.
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Starting to worry now. I know it is only a friendly, but I would expect what is with the exception of N'Zogbia likely to be our first choice midfield and attack this season to be able to score goals against Derby County.
I don't that. Petrov, Gabby and N'zogbia are all likely to start I reckon.
First half we were OK, tried to play football and the passing was quick but lacking a little in the final third. Bannan was our best player by a mile, I think he's put himself to the front of the queue. Ireland started slowly but had a good last 25 minutes of the first half but faded after being switched wide after half time. Makoun had a good game, Carke and Herd were decent at the back, Delph was neat and tidy but I thought Albrighton other than 2 or 3 early crosses was poor. None of the subs impressed.
I really wouldn't read any significance into a team that probably had only three players in it who will start at Fulham.
Great turn out, watching from the box at the opposite end they were still coming in at 5 past 8. Highlight, other than the hospitality of our hosts, was our lot taking the piss out of the music after the first goal.
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Starting to worry now. I know it is only a friendly, but I would expect what is with the exception of N'Zogbia likely to be our first choice midfield and attack this season to be able to score goals against Derby County.
I don't that. Petrov, Gabby and N'zogbia are all likely to start I reckon.
First half we were OK, tried to play football and the passing was quick but lacking a little in the final third. Bannan was our best player by a mile, I think he's put himself to the front of the queue. Ireland started slowly but had a good last 25 minutes of the first half but faded after being switched wide after half time. Makoun had a good game, Carke and Herd were decent at the back, Delph was neat and tidy but I thought Albrighton other than 2 or 3 early crosses was poor. None of the subs impressed.
I really wouldn't read any significance into a team that probably had only three players in it who will start at Fulham.
Great turn out, watching from the box at the opposite end they were still coming in at 5 past 8. Highlight, other than the hospitality of our hosts, was our lot taking the piss out of the music after the first goal.
forwards?
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
No yellow card but taken off after 60 odd minutes, I thought he looked quite good and appeared to be coming into the game more before he went off. Bannan used the ball well but sometimes tried to over play, Ireland didn't really get much of the ball and when he did it wasn't far enough up the pitch. What with his lack of games over the past year we are taking a risk by placing a lot of our attacking va va voom at his feet. Bent looked isolated and Albrighton looks reluctant to take on his man.
Just heard on the TV that McLeish said we need to strengthen. I'd agree that we need a few more options and I think to get the best out of Bannan he may have to play behind Bent as he's got a great eye for a pass.
Was impressed by Herd at r/b.
Lack of chances created was a concern but a nice evening out all in all.
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heh! AM reckons we need to strenghen...no shit sherlock. GOOD NEWS AT LAST.
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forwards
Bent worked hard but we didn't really create a lot. The one opportunity he did have he was on his left foot and wasted it by cutting back inside. ND suffered even more from a lack of service.
The most obvious thing we were missing was any attacking intent on the left. Several times the space was created for them to feed a man in on that side but there was no one there.
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forwards
Bent worked hard but we didn't really create a lot. The one opportunity he did have he was on his left foot and wasted it by cutting back inside. ND suffered even more from a lack of service.
The most obvious thing we were missing was any attacking intent on the left. Several times the space was created for them to feed a man in on that side but there was no one there.
cheers
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Delph showed a little drive in the midfield, Bannan will be a very fine player though maybe not for us. Herd looked like he will play regularly at this level, Baker (?) Doesn't look like he will. Not too many of our second string looked like they wanted to put much pressure on the manager to pick them for the Fulham game. MOM Makoun. Great turn out, must have been 4500 there.
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"its going to be a long long road.." shit wrong club!!
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Great turn out, must have been 4500 there.
The crowd was around 8,000. Jon asked the steward how many the stand we were in held and he said 4,000, so I reckon there were at least 3,000 of us there.
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My concern from the games so far is the lack of goals, and it doesn't seem as though we are creating a great deal judging by what people at the games are saying.
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Lack of goals,not creating a great deal, where have i heard that before said about a Alex McLeish team?
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Delph showed a little drive in the midfield, Bannan will be a very fine player though maybe not for us. Herd looked like he will play regularly at this level, Baker (?) Doesn't look like he will. Not too many of our second string looked like they wanted to put much pressure on the manager to pick them for the Fulham game. MOM Makoun. Great turn out, must have been 4500 there.
Baker is at the under-20 world cup. I think you meant Llowry.
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just watching Barcelona vs Chivas. Barca getting beaten 3-1, and they had most of their first team (except Messi) for about 50 or so minutes. Iniesta is still on as is Pedro. Two absolute corkers from a Chivas player Marco Fabian, especially his second - a Tony Daley-esque vs Everton flying volley. It's a pre-season friendly and the first teamers just don't look that into it, probably a bit like our boys tonight. They have a young lad on the left (number 30). Don't know his name, but he is horrific with the ball at his feet. Very un-Barca like player.
Edit: Barcelona lost 4-1
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We started hoofing it towards the end. I'm just hoping we see a different style at fulham. I'm worried albrighton does not want to take on his man he'd rather knock it and try and run past. It's not going to work against experienced prem defenders
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New Aston Villa boss Alex McLeish was abused by a group of Birmingham fans at Villa's pre-season friendly against Derby.
McLeish infuriated Second City tensions when he swapped relegated Brum for arch-rivals Villa in June.
And three City fans went to see Villa lose 2-0 at Championship Derby last night.
They then waited until after the game for McLeish to emerge for post-match interviews at Pride Park before taunting the Scot with abuse, chants of "Judas" and a medley of Birmingham City songs.
Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Aston-Villa-news-Alex-McLeish-booed-by-Birmingham-fans-in-crowd-as-Villa-lose-2-0-Derby-friendly
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Great turn out, must have been 4500 there.
The crowd was around 8,000. Jon asked the steward how many the stand we were in held and he said 4,000, so I reckon there were at least 3,000 of us there.
I did a seat count of the Villa end (sad I know).
37 rows x 122 across = approx 4,500. All the rear sections looked fairly full to me, and the front sections where they put fans when they realised how many were turning up looked about 75% full. The official crowd I think they said was just under 9,000.
On that basis, looking at how many were on the other 3 sides I would estimate a minmum of 3,500 maybe approaching 4,000.
A quite staggering turn out for an away friendly.
Incidentally, do they always open the exits at half time so the smokers can have a wander out ? First time I have seen that.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
No yellow card but taken off after 60 odd minutes, I thought he looked quite good and appeared to be coming into the game more before he went off. Bannan used the ball well but sometimes tried to over play, Ireland didn't really get much of the ball and when he did it wasn't far enough up the pitch. What with his lack of games over the past year we are taking a risk by placing a lot of our attacking va va voom at his feet. Bent looked isolated and Albrighton looks reluctant to take on his man.
Just heard on the TV that McLeish said we need to strengthen. I'd agree that we need a few more options and I think to get the best out of Bannan he may have to play behind Bent as he's got a great eye for a pass.
Was impressed by Herd at r/b.
Lack of chances created was a concern but a nice evening out all in all.
maybe he wasnt talking about transfers then, i was hoping to see a couple of additions.
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In my day they used to open the gates at half time and you go from Witton Lane to the Holte end to see the Villa attack in the second half.
Also when we didn't have the money we could watch part of the match from the hillside of Aston Park and nip in at half time when they opened the gates.
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In my day they used to open the gates at half time and you go from Witton Lane to the Holte end to see the Villa attack in the second half.
Also when we didn't have the money we could watch part of the match from the hillside of Aston Park and nip in at half time when they opened the gates.
And get into the ground for the last 15 minutes or so when the exits were opened.
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Ciaran Clark is clearly a class above all our other '2nd string players'.
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Agreed Paul, He was one of the better ones, I fear a long hard slog is ahead
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Incidentally, do they always open the exits at half time so the smokers can have a wander out ? First time I have seen that.
Incidently did anyone see that scuffle outside at HT? A lad was being held back by the stewards and he seemed to want to attack a group of lads. Also there was a bit of a chavvy element at the station singing we'll do what we want etc
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Lack of goals,not creating a great deal, where have i heard that before said about a Alex McLeish team?
For a team with only one goalscorer plus Gabby who's a bit out of things imo; we can't expect many goals this season.....
Hard season ahead, we are skint it appears.
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was delph any use - assume he got a yellow card, pretty much a given - but did he do anything??
No yellow card but taken off after 60 odd minutes, I thought he looked quite good and appeared to be coming into the game more before he went off. Bannan used the ball well but sometimes tried to over play, Ireland didn't really get much of the ball and when he did it wasn't far enough up the pitch. What with his lack of games over the past year we are taking a risk by placing a lot of our attacking va va voom at his feet. Bent looked isolated and Albrighton looks reluctant to take on his man.
Just heard on the TV that McLeish said we need to strengthen. I'd agree that we need a few more options and I think to get the best out of Bannan he may have to play behind Bent as he's got a great eye for a pass.
Was impressed by Herd at r/b.
Lack of chances created was a concern but a nice evening out all in all.
maybe he wasnt talking about transfers then, i was hoping to see a couple of additions.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11677_7079750,00.html
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A poor result considering the team had the England no.9 and a decent midfield playing. Let's face it, usually a game against Derby County is a given - home or away and considering how shit they are these days our reserves should be able to beat them. No offence Derby. I recognise that they are starting the season this week but am slightly annoyed at the 'shrug of the shoulders' remark on the villa website concerning the review of the game:
"The Rams, who open their Championship campaign at home to our Second City neighbours this weekend, understandably had a sharper edge."
oh well that's all right then and thanks to all the loyal supporters who made the pointless trip to a footballing armpit.
by the way: I don't like Derby - the town or the club!
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I hope he meant we need to bring players in.
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Great turn out, must have been 4500 there.
The crowd was around 8,000. Jon asked the steward how many the stand we were in held and he said 4,000, so I reckon there were at least 3,000 of us there.
I did a seat count of the Villa end (sad I know).
37 rows x 122 across = approx 4,500. All the rear sections looked fairly full to me, and the front sections where they put fans when they realised how many were turning up looked about 75% full. The official crowd I think they said was just under 9,000.
On that basis, looking at how many were on the other 3 sides I would estimate a minmum of 3,500 maybe approaching 4,000.
A quite staggering turn out for an away friendly.
Incidentally, do they always open the exits at half time so the smokers can have a wander out ? First time I have seen that.
Blimey, I'm impressed.
Don't know about Derby, but I've not known any other grounds open at half time for the smokers.
I've also not known any other ground sell beer throughout the game.
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So, did we actually learn anything from last night?
We already knew our defensive cover was poorish, although it should be said that under normal circumstances Lichaj and Cuellar would be picked ahead of 75% of that defence. So did the midfield and forward line fail or where they starved of the ball by a poor back line? Ireland, Makoun and Delph is pretty close to our strongest centre mid combination, but presumably failed to dominate? Again, we know we need a good solid DCM, so is there any great shock there?
I just hope it highlighted our weaknesses to spur Randy on to open the cheque book again.
As an aside, can anyone tell me how Albrighton played? I've said before he's one of the players we need to have a good season, but so far he's had a poor pre-season!
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Don't know about Derby, but I've not known any other grounds open at half time for the smokers.
I've also not known any other ground sell beer throughout the game.
Probably both only occuring during pre season friendlies as I thought there was a law or something about when alcohol can be served at matches.
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Took time off work for that garbage. £5 to park, shit pub, Derby totally unprepared for about 4,000 travelling fans. Queues worse than Alton Towers, paid a tenner, missed the first 20 minutes, wished I missed 90, not one shot on target. Apart from Bannan they looked relegation fodder.
OK I know friendlies don't mean jack, but that was dire
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Great turn out, must have been 4500 there.
The crowd was around 8,000. Jon asked the steward how many the stand we were in held and he said 4,000, so I reckon there were at least 3,000 of us there.
Only the 50% out then, thats quite good for me. When the crowd was announced I did say to my brother 'Where would they put another 23k people in this ground?'
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I thought Albrighton played crap. He never took his man on and won, he over hit most of the crosses. I'm surprised no one has mentioned Guzan, I thought he had a good game and kerp the score down.
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I thought Albrighton played crap. He never took his man on and won, he over hit most of the crosses. I'm surprised no one has mentioned Guzan, I thought he had a good game and kerp the score down.
He did manage our only shot on target though.
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His shot was a cross IMO
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I thought Albrighton played crap. He never took his man on and won, he over hit most of the crosses. I'm surprised no one has mentioned Guzan, I thought he had a good game and kerp the score down.
He did manage our only shot on target though.
Guzan? ;-)
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Incidently did anyone see that scuffle outside at HT? A lad was being held back by the stewards and he seemed to want to attack a group of lads. Also there was a bit of a chavvy element at the station singing we'll do what we want etc
At HT I was waiting for a pint when I saw a lad of about 19/20 who looked like he'd had a bit of a shoeing, from earwigging the stewards it turns out he was a SHA fan who had come along with Villa mates, been recognised and had a clip round the ear.
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So, did we actually learn anything from last night?
We already knew our defensive cover was poorish, although it should be said that under normal circumstances Lichaj and Cuellar would be picked ahead of 75% of that defence. So did the midfield and forward line fail or where they starved of the ball by a poor back line? Ireland, Makoun and Delph is pretty close to our strongest centre mid combination, but presumably failed to dominate? Again, we know we need a good solid DCM, so is there any great shock there?
I just hope it highlighted our weaknesses to spur Randy on to open the cheque book again.
As an aside, can anyone tell me how Albrighton played? I've said before he's one of the players we need to have a good season, but so far he's had a poor pre-season!
I think we learnt that, as said above, not many of those playing last night said to AM "you have got to pick me for Fulham". The back four were ok, Clark played well, the two full backs did all right and Beye did sufficient. Midfield we had a fair bit of possession, especially first half, but were not decisive enough with it. Too much receiving it from the back four only to pass it back to the same player. Too many players not seeming to read each others game and ending up blind alleys or having the ball taken off them by a Derby player whilst they were thinking about what to do. Bent made some runs but got very little, if any, decent service. I am afraid Albrighton is at the bottom of a dip at the moment, and was poor, let's hope he can work through it.
Initially we started with Makoun and Delph in front of the back four with Ireland playing in front and Albrighton and Bannan alongside Bent. Eventually, and particularly in the second half, that changed with Bannan dropping back and Ireland looking as if he should be playing up front on the left, but IMO that was a disaster.
The subs who came on did not shine at all, the one thing of note was what looked like a two footed jump tackle by Gary Gardner that if so would have seen him walk in a normal match but which got him the only yellow of the game.
To me, a disappointment overall, I thought the players on show would have put more into their game in an attempt to impress AM. Other than Clark and possibly Bannan I do not think they did given the quality of the opposition who I do not think will be making much of an impact in their league this year.
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If thats true peterwithe its a bit sad considering it was a friendly
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If thats true peterwithe its a bit sad considering it was a friendly
Toilets got smashed up as well apparently
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So, did we actually learn anything from last night?
We already knew our defensive cover was poorish, although it should be said that under normal circumstances Lichaj and Cuellar would be picked ahead of 75% of that defence. So did the midfield and forward line fail or where they starved of the ball by a poor back line? Ireland, Makoun and Delph is pretty close to our strongest centre mid combination, but presumably failed to dominate? Again, we know we need a good solid DCM, so is there any great shock there?
I just hope it highlighted our weaknesses to spur Randy on to open the cheque book again.
As an aside, can anyone tell me how Albrighton played? I've said before he's one of the players we need to have a good season, but so far he's had a poor pre-season!
I think we learnt that, as said above, not many of those playing last night said to AM "you have got to pick me for Fulham". The back four were ok, Clark played well, the two full backs did all right and Beye did sufficient. Midfield we had a fair bit of possession, especially first half, but were not decisive enough with it. Too much receiving it from the back four only to pass it back to the same player. Too many players not seeming to read each others game and ending up blind alleys or having the ball taken off them by a Derby player whilst they were thinking about what to do. Bent made some runs but got very little, if any, decent service. I am afraid Albrighton is at the bottom of a dip at the moment, and was poor, let's hope he can work through it.
Initially we started with Makoun and Delph in front of the back four with Ireland playing in front and Albrighton and Bannan alongside Bent. Eventually, and particularly in the second half, that changed with Bannan dropping back and Ireland looking as if he should be playing up front on the left, but IMO that was a disaster.
The subs who came on did not shine at all, the one thing of note was what looked like a two footed jump tackle by Gary Gardner that if so would have seen him walk in a normal match but which got him the only yellow of the game.
To me, a disappointment overall, I thought the players on show would have put more into their game in an attempt to impress AM. Other than Clark and possibly Bannan I do not think they did given the quality of the opposition who I do not think will be making much of an impact in their league this year.
Thanks for the summation.
Sounds like it was more a lack of urgency/desire then rather than ability? Very disappointing if true.
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Toilets got smashed up as well apparently
It's a shame but there was an air of trouble eminating from a very small section of the crowd.
Shame really as it make us all look bad.
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Last night was a bit disapointing to be honest. We never really looked like scoring which was a bit of a worry. Bannan was the one who looked most likely to create something but like someone else said earlier, he overdid it a couple of times, trying a first time pass when he should have kept the ball, but at least he's got the confidence to do it. He's done enough to get a start at Fulham instead of Ireland i think, he's seems to have a lot more energy for a start, Ireland just seemed to be going through the motions a bit.
Albrighton seems to be lacking a bit of confidence, but hopefully N'Zogbia coming in will take the pressure off him a bit.
Good turn out though, it'll be a shock for Eck to see so many travelling away fans.
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Toilets got smashed up as well apparently
It's a shame but there was an air of trouble eminating from a very small section of the crowd.
Shame really as it make us all look bad.
There were some arseholes there. We were standing outside the Merry widows about half 6 (I think) and a group of 10-15 lads walked past trying to make a scene. Everyone just turned and looked at that as if to tell them to pipe down. Made me laugh really, think they were trying to find a pub that would accept them and pretty much failed.
On the game, think Herd and Bannan had good games, and Hogg looked composed on the ball. Obviously his challenge let him down a bit but otherwise he did look pretty good!
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Toilets got smashed up as well apparently
It's a shame but there was an air of trouble eminating from a very small section of the crowd.
Shame really as it make us all look bad.
Agreed.
There did seem that bad atmosphere in a couple of sections. A slightly different version of the pathetic Tracey Andrews chant as she has been/ is being released ? There was even a chant of "We will see you all outside" directed at the Derby fans (very 1980s). I guess the half time incident was why the police were out 2nd half doing their bit of filming.
I will be charitable and put it down to a few beers on a hot humid evening and being back after the close season.
You would have thought they would have got it out their system at Walsall but I guess there was only Kev the dancing retard from Bloxwich to laugh at from the other mob for that.
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Beye and Clark were good.
The rest we're Ok or crap.
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I thought Beye was poor, the slightest bit of movement from the fella he was marking left him floundering, some nice interceptions though, I'll grant him that.
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Toilets got smashed up as well apparently
I suppose they had heard that the toilets get smashed up in the away Derby matches and got the wrong end of the stick.
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What is it with these fucking idiots declaring war on toilets lately?
Imbeciles, I dub thee "Looligans".
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What is it with these fucking idiots declaring war on toilets lately?
Imbeciles, I dub thee "Looligans".
Is it time for the grown-ups amongst our away support to put a stop to this?
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If thats true peterwithe its a bit sad considering it was a friendly
And there was only one. How very hard of the participants.
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What is it with these fucking idiots declaring war on toilets lately?
Imbeciles, I dub thee "Looligans".
Is it time for the grown-ups amongst our away support to put a stop to this?
And risk a piece of sharp porcelain in the face?
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What is it with these fucking idiots declaring war on toilets lately?
Imbeciles, I dub thee "Looligans".
Is it time for the grown-ups amongst our away support to put a stop to this?
no , far too dangerous to intervene these days im afraid -most are pissed up kids but you never know what people are carrying .
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If I saw it happening I'd intervene. Especially if I wanted to drop a Teddy's leg.
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I think smashing up the ticket office would have been a better idea. How many people missed the first ten minutes!
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Took time off work for that garbage. £5 to park, shit pub, Derby totally unprepared for about 4,000 travelling fans. Queues worse than Alton Towers, paid a tenner, missed the first 20 minutes, wished I missed 90, not one shot on target. Apart from Bannan they looked relegation fodder.
OK I know friendlies don't mean jack, but that was dire
Sorry just had to commend you on a great user name.
Supposing, that is, you're not Lawson's lover............
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Took time off work for that garbage. £5 to park, shit pub, Derby totally unprepared for about 4,000 travelling fans. Queues worse than Alton Towers, paid a tenner, missed the first 20 minutes, wished I missed 90, not one shot on target. Apart from Bannan they looked relegation fodder.
OK I know friendlies don't mean jack, but that was dire
Sorry just had to commend you on a great user name.
Supposing, that is, you're not Lawson's lover............
now now oscar , dont be an arce.
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Don't know about Derby, but I've not known any other grounds open at half time for the smokers.
I've also not known any other ground sell beer throughout the game.
Probably both only occuring during pre season friendlies as I thought there was a law or something about when alcohol can be served at matches.
A dingle mate of mine said they used to have an area that people could go outside for a smoke at HT. Not sure if they still do as he moved abroad so hasn't been for a couple of years.
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Don't know about Derby, but I've not known any other grounds open at half time for the smokers.
I've also not known any other ground sell beer throughout the game.
Probably both only occuring during pre season friendlies as I thought there was a law or something about when alcohol can be served at matches.
A dingle mate of mine said they used to have an area that people could go outside for a smoke at HT. Not sure if they still do as he moved abroad so hasn't been for a couple of years.
Non smoker myself, but Derby were doing this at the 0-6 game a couple of years back.
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Don't know about Derby, but I've not known any other grounds open at half time for the smokers.
I've also not known any other ground sell beer throughout the game.
Probably both only occuring during pre season friendlies as I thought there was a law or something about when alcohol can be served at matches.
A dingle mate of mine said they used to have an area that people could go outside for a smoke at HT. Not sure if they still do as he moved abroad so hasn't been for a couple of years.
Non smoker myself, but Derby were doing this at the 0-6 game a couple of years back.
Sure that wasn't just their fans leaving in disgust and sparking up as they went?