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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Holtenderinthesky on July 14, 2011, 12:03:03 PM
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In light of the imminent transfer from the Villa of the ex Boro player, I was pondering how our ex players have been received at Villa Park over the years. We've had the likes of Yorke, Southgate, Barry and even Vassell move away under provocative circumstances and I'd like to gauge exactly how our latest deserter will fit in with the boo boys. I personally feel worse about this one than any of the aforementioned due to his totally arrogant and classless attitude in forcing a move after 1 good season. The more I think about Downing, the more respect I have for Ashley Young. We all knew Ash was leaving, but at least he did it in the correct manner. Is Downing going to be the most hated ex-Villain in recent memory or are there worse examples?
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Downing deserves to be reminded of the total disrespect he's shown to AVFC
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Ifyou take Gareth Barry (Who ?) out of the subject then yes, The likes of Milner and Young everyone knew whaty was happening with them but they got on with playing up until the last minute. Fair play to them. The likes of Barry and Stewart "came on a crutch" Downing are better off else where IMO as players like that dont deserve to be linked with the claret and blue army.
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Stewart "came on a crutch" Downing
This is how he should always be referred to in the Villa history books.
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I have no problem with Ashley Young, he gave us good service and went for a good fee to the champions. Downing however gave us no loyalty and has left to a team not even in Europe, albeit for a good fee. He has treated us with no respect.
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Stewart "came on a crutch" Downing
This is how he should always be referred to in the Villa history books.
Agreed :)
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Stewart "came on a crutch" Downing
This is how he should always be referred to in the Villa history books.
Agreed :)
I wonder if Petrov could manage to stamp on his foot again........ :P
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Is this on a par with that Hodge fella?
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I said in another thread, Downing is a tosser and his legacy with Villa is of Hodge proportions.
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I will clap Ashley Young, I will throw a bottle of piss at Downing.
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I think Downing will be in for hell on Earth at ours next season.
A nice treat if you sit in the Trinity and Witton Lane.
Have no beef with Ashley, always gave his all and joined one of the biggest clubs in the world.
No hard feeling towards Milner either.
Ba££y remains a cocksucker.
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The only thing setting Downing apart from Hodge is that he did not show us total disrespect on the field of play. For that reason alone he is not at Hodge level.
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I think Downing will be in for hell on Earth at ours next season.
A nice treat if you sit in the Trinity and Witton Lane.
Have no beef with Ashley, always gave his all and joined one of the biggest clubs in the world.
No hard feeling towards Milner either.
Ba££y remains a cocksucker.
Nail on the head there Rip Van Bentfletch !!
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Stewart Downing, what a wanker what a wanker!
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Barry and Young gave good service to the club, Milner too who played his best for us up to the very last kick.
Downing says one thing and two weeks later says completely the opposite. He is nothing but a weak, dis-loyal, lilly livered, spineless excuse of a person. No sooner than the plaster has come off he wants out. I wish him nothing but ill and that goes for his new team too.
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Stewart Downing, what a wanker what a wanker!
Shit on the weasel
Shit on the weasel tonight
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Downing says one thing and two weeks later says completely the opposite. He is nothing but a weak, dis-loyal, lilly livered, spineless excuse of a person. No sooner than the plaster has come off he wants out. I wish him nothing but ill and that goes for his new team too.
Seconded.
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Stewart Downing, what a wanker what a wanker!
Shit on the weasel
Shit on the weasel tonight
You're just a shit Charles N'Zogbia,shit Charles N'Zogbia.....
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Stewart Downing, what a wanker what a wanker!
Shit on the weasel
Shit on the weasel tonight
You're just a shit Charles N'Zogbia,shit Charles N'Zogbia.....
You might want to edit that soon.... Shit Aiden McGeady, you're just a shit Aiden McGeady......
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Barry and Young gave good service to the club, Milner too who played his best for us up to the very last kick.
Downing says one thing and two weeks later says completely the opposite. He is nothing but a weak, dis-loyal, lilly livered, spineless excuse of a person. No sooner than the plaster has come off he wants out. I wish him nothing but ill and that goes for his new team too.
Agree with a lot of that, barring Barry. He'd been angling for a move for years (remember the pompey / spurs links?), so fuck him.
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See, I've mellowed to Barry. At least we had 9 years out of him, but I genuinely feel thart Villa are and will always be his Club, despite signing for Man City (for whatever reasons, even misguided)
However Downing, despite having a great surname, is Hodge reincarnated
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Poll added.
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See, I've mellowed to Barry. At least we had 9 years out of him, but I genuinely feel thart Villa are and will always be his Club, despite signing for Man City (for whatever reasons, even misguided)
We're the club he tried to leave at least 4 times in those 9 years.
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I have no problem with Ashley Young, he gave us good service and went for a good fee to the champions. Downing however gave us no loyalty and has left to a team not even in Europe, albeit for a good fee. He has treated us with no respect.
This.
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I booed Yorke. I booed Barry. I cheered Milner (even though it hurt like fuck), I will cheer young (ditto). Downing, I dont think is even worth booing. I would prefer 40k people either sitting silent, or a slow hand clap, or a collective "Meh". He is the Judas, and doesnt deserve a good booing
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"You're just a shit Charles N'Zogbia works best".
I just hope we can knacker the prick while he's wussing along - f'ck me, what a twerp :-)
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He came on a crutch.
Hopefully he leaves on one too the money grabbing, attempted glory hunting, There no better than us chasing, Beats them then joins them loving, Ill score to beat them but then leave WANKER :@ Nuff said
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Stewart Downing, what a wanker what a wanker!
Shit on the weasel
Shit on the weasel tonight
You're just a shit Charles N'Zogbia,shit Charles N'Zogbia.....
Ironically I think they'll be the first chants Downing will have had at VP - don't recall his name being chanted at all last season
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I will clap Ashley Young, I will throw a bottle of piss at Downing.
Please ensure its a plastic bottle and the top has already been removed before taking it into the stand.
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I will clap Ashley Young, I will throw a bottle of piss at Downing.
Please ensure its a plastic bottle and the top has already been removed before taking it into the stand.
Matthius like this (Thumbs up thingy)
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I booed Yorke. I booed Barry. I cheered Milner (even though it hurt like fuck), I will cheer young (ditto). Downing, I dont think is even worth booing. I would prefer 40k people either sitting silent, or a slow hand clap, or a collective "Meh". He is the Judas, and doesnt deserve a good booing
See I differ there. I think he deserves torrents of abuse from minute 1 to minute 90. If he is the biggest Judas in recent times (and he is) he should be treated as such.
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I forgot to put Gardner in the poll. Just shows how insignificant he is. FWIW though, if he WAS in the poll (which he kind of is now ;)) would anyone have voted for him?
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I'll never forgive Yorke for his treatment of Villa. We spotted him, gave him his chance, he grew up with us and just, just as we were putting together a very decent side, he jumps ship. If he had stuck with us we would have had one helluva forward line. I think he owed us some loyalty at a key point in the club's recent history. Ditto Barry: his actions were to be the first signs of cracks in the Lerner Dream. Both players, who had been with us since they were kids, let us down at very key points. When push came to shove, they owed the club and its fans some loyalty. Horrible.
Downing. I feel no attachment to him as a player and rate him as a good footballer but I'm not disappointed at all in us selling him - we can replace with better. Simply for that duplicitous u-turn, though, he deserves all the stick in the world. It's about time supporters showed today's footballers and their agents just what they think of them. If he has the bottle to be at Villa Park when we next face Liverpool he will deserve everything thrown his way...and I'll tell you what, I reckon we'll give them a hammering.
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I find it hard to seperate him and Hodge to be honest,both shit on the Villa.Barry would be second, i still remember how he told a Sunday people how it was nothing to do with money but the desire to play in the CL and then signs for a club not even in europe. Bosnich would be third,another one who messed the villa around in his last season before walking out on us.
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david unsworth
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david unsworth
"Google did not match any documents for David Unsworth".
"Did you mean Mrs Unsworth?"
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Downer is a wanker . How much did he cost us while he was wrapped up in cotton wool... big f**king mummys boy .... Just hope one of our passionate caring players goes through him in the first minute at VP...
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Did Platt get booed when he returned with Arse? I vaguely remember he did and I thought that was outrageous.
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He's only a poor little maggot,
He doesn't do tackles at all,
He made me feel sick,
When he wriggled on Kenny's dick
But he don't play for us anymore.
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Ash deserves nothing less than a standing ovation. Great servant left for good reasons in the right manner. Downing deserves nothing less than drugging and waking up to see his severed weapon being fed into the waste disposal
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Mattjpa, you owe me for a new letter key next to the "w" which is not working now due to me spitting tea all over the keyboard.
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I find it hard to seperate him and Hodge to be honest,both shit on the Villa.Barry would be second, i still remember how he told a Sunday people how it was nothing to do with money but the desire to play in the CL and then signs for a club not even in europe. Bosnich would be third,another one who messed the villa around in his last season before walking out on us.
...er, aren't City in the CL now? I think Barry wanted a club that had the potential to reach the CL. Clubs who sell their best players 4 years on the bounce don't have that.
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I find it hard to seperate him and Hodge to be honest,both shit on the Villa.Barry would be second, i still remember how he told a Sunday people how it was nothing to do with money but the desire to play in the CL and then signs for a club not even in europe. Bosnich would be third,another one who messed the villa around in his last season before walking out on us.
...er, aren't City in the CL now? I think Barry wanted a club that had the potential to reach the CL. Clubs who sell their best players 4 years on the bounce don't have that.
TBF Spurs sold Carrick, Berbatov, Bent and Defoe (who HR re-signed) and managed to get into the CL. It can be a good business plan to buy players for 10 mil and sell them for 20 but only if the funds are re-invested into the team.
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Did Platt get booed when he returned with Arse? I vaguely remember he did and I thought that was outrageous.
As I recall he got booed when he came on in LC semi. Showed how tense it was because I don't think he got any in the league game, and he scored for them in that (possibly)
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Regarding biggest turncoats etc I've never forgiven Southgate for using England press conference at Euro 2000 to tell all and sundry that he wanted out. Then a full year later ended up at bloody Middlesbrough
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Did Platt get booed when he returned with Arse? I vaguely remember he did and I thought that was outrageous.
As I recall he got booed when he came on in LC semi. Showed how tense it was because I don't think he got any in the league game, and he scored for them in that (possibly)
The big difference with Platt retuning was that he'd spent a while in Italy before coming back. It's a lot easier to accept the loss of a player if he isn't being sold to your rivals.
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Barry and Young gave good service to the club, Milner too who played his best for us up to the very last kick.
Downing says one thing and two weeks later says completely the opposite. He is nothing but a weak, dis-loyal, lilly livered, spineless excuse of a person. No sooner than the plaster has come off he wants out. I wish him nothing but ill and that goes for his new team too.
Spot on, Bren.
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I find it hard to seperate him and Hodge to be honest,both shit on the Villa.Barry would be second, i still remember how he told a Sunday people how it was nothing to do with money but the desire to play in the CL and then signs for a club not even in europe. Bosnich would be third,another one who messed the villa around in his last season before walking out on us.
...er, aren't City in the CL now? I think Barry wanted a club that had the potential to reach the CL. Clubs who sell their best players 4 years on the bounce don't have that.
TBF Spurs sold Carrick, Berbatov, Bent and Defoe (who HR re-signed) and managed to get into the CL. It can be a good business plan to buy players for 10 mil and sell them for 20 but only if the funds are re-invested into the team.
Good point. I hope you're right and we invest in the right players. Not sure Bent was the player he was now though.
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Stewart "came on a crutch" Downing
This is how he should always be referred to in the Villa history books.
Agreed :)
I wonder if Petrov could manage to stamp on his foot again........ :P
Exactly what I was thinking, no less than the little shit deserves!
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Downing has no spine and no balls.
Signed with a broken leg, we have waited patiently for one good season, then he runs off as fast as his little legs will carry him as soon as the opportunity arises.
I would just love someone to have the courage to tell one of these Billy Big Timers that they signed a contract and they will stay until the end of it even though we would lose millions....wouldn't it be refreshing?
Commercial madness I know but whoever does it (perhaps Levy)? would have my utmost admiration.
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At the time Yorkie leaving was devastating, we relied on him so much for his goals!
12.6m was an insult aswell. But nothing changes even under the lerner era.
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Stewart "came on a crutch" Downing
This is how he should always be referred to in the Villa history books.
I can think of much better and much more appropriate terms for SD. And so can every single one of us. Loads of 'em!
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At the time Yorkie leaving was devastating, we relied on him so much for his goals!
12.6m was an insult aswell. But nothing changes even under the lerner era.
£12.6 was a lot of money at the time, it was'nt exactly 'an insult' bearing in mind in was over 13 years ago.
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It was a lot of money, but his 30 odd goals the following season which helped united get the treble its a snip!
Could have held out for more.
Bearing in mind we were a top 6 club back then.
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Barry and Young gave good service to the club, Milner too who played his best for us up to the very last kick.
Downing says one thing and two weeks later says completely the opposite. He is nothing but a weak, dis-loyal, lilly livered, spineless excuse of a person. No sooner than the plaster has come off he wants out. I wish him nothing but ill and that goes for his new team too.
This.
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It was a lot of money, but his 30 odd goals the following season which helped united get the treble its a snip!
Could have held out for more.
Bearing in mind we were a top 6 club back then.
The money was well spent though on Merson and Dublin so we did'nt do too badly out of it and don't forget, Shearer only went for £15m.
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Yeah thats true Clampy, Just needed to sign Juninho aswell when we had the chance and who knows?
Perhaps if we would have held out for a bit more for Yorke, deadly would have sanctioned it.
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I'm not expecting him to play at Villa Park this season. He will tweak or strain something in training the week before the game from which he will miraculously recover immediately after the final whistle.
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Barry and Young gave good service to the club, Milner too who played his best for us up to the very last kick.
Downing says one thing and two weeks later says completely the opposite. He is nothing but a weak, dis-loyal, lilly livered, spineless excuse of a person. No sooner than the plaster has come off he wants out. I wish him nothing but ill and that goes for his new team too.
Totally agree.
Gareth Barry gave us over 10 seasons, and Ash went about his final 6 months in a perfect way.
James Milner? I'm actually not to sure he even wanted to go. The reason he was sold was because MON over spent.
I might be shooting wide of the mark on that, but it's my opinion.
Downing owed Villa for the faith and loyalty we showed him when we signed him. That's why he'll be the first ex-Villa player that I'll openly boo on his return.
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At the time Yorkie leaving was devastating, we relied on him so much for his goals!
12.6m was an insult aswell. But nothing changes even under the lerner era.
I've a feeling Yorke was into his last 12 months, which was why he went so cheaply
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Hitz. 107mph and £1m in the bank. Shooooot ,Der Hammer.
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Hitz. Shoot the ball right in Downing's mush.
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good bit of business, can't believe we got 20m for the 1/2 arsed poof, I truly think Daglish as gone mad!
will not boo just shake my head and smile as Albrighton steams pass him and leaves him in a heap as he slips over for the 100th time, not a genuine player and made for the deluded ones!
nice one....bye Stu
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I don't really believe in booing players.
I think I would boo Downing though.
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Stewie, or Dirty D as I now refer to him, will get a terrible reaction.
Yorkie, Barry, Milner etc served the club well (despite what we may think of them). We took a gamble on Dirty D, gave him a chance to prove himself a top player and he fecked off the first chance he got. Pr1ck.
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It was a lot of money, but his 30 odd goals the following season which helped united get the treble its a snip!
Could have held out for more.
Bearing in mind we were a top 6 club back then.
Sadly we were bigger then than we are now. Partly due to the failure on our part to kick on at the right times but the game has changed a lot too and we probably are victims of that. Who would have thought ten or fifteen years ago that clubs like Chelsea and Man City would end up having so much money to throw about.
Villa are going through a rough period with many awkward questions hanging int he air but to me they will always be the greatest club in the world.
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I pretty much decide whether they left us (boo) or we got rid of them (warm applause or ignore depending).
Tried and tested.
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It always makes it more entertaining if there's a pantomime villain you can direct all of your stick at. Notably, Joey Barton got it in the neck when we beat Newcastle, and didn't Terry get a load of verbals last October or whenever it was over something or other? You find out how weak a player actually is if they let that kind of stuff affect their performance. Terry didn't, really. Barton did. I expect Downing to follow Barton's example.
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I expect Downing to follow Barton's example.
I think we should all follow Barton's example. What a model professional. ;)
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I said in another thread, Downing is a tosser and his legacy with Villa is of Hodge proportions.
way before he joined us I always thought the guy was an asshole especially when I read some article about how he was a part time Ibiza DJ and that he referred to DJing as a 'mental challenge'.
tosser.
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When he used to play for Boro and the odd game for England i honestly used to wonder how.Was a fairy before Petrov nobbled him ,that injury has just made him pull out of any 50 50 tackle.I certainly am not sorry to see him go,we wont miss him half as much as we will the likes of Young and like we did Milner.
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Our player of the season seems to go each season at the moment- please everyone vote emile next time!
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I don't doubt Downing will be booed relentlessly on his return.