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Title: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on July 06, 2011, 01:02:35 PM
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Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish has challenged midfielder Fabian Delph to start living up to his £6million price tag.

Delph was regarded as one of the brightest young prospects in the country when he moved from Leeds to Villa as a 19-year-old two seasons ago.

But he has not established a regular spot at Villa and has also suffered several injury setbacks and is currently recovering from an ankle problem.

McLeish said: "I think it's time for Fabian Delph to show the reason why Villa invested a decent sum of money on a very young player.

"The challenge is there for Fabian. He can certainly tackle as well as pass the ball. He's got that quality.

"He's got a determined attitude and believes in himself."

McLeish will use pre-season - Villa report back on Friday - to determine whether Delph is ready for the Premier League.

He said: "We'll get a good idea in pre-season and will assess him then. I have to assess if he is ready for the Premier League.

"But for him, after his injury problems, to get a full season would be a massive boost to his mental toughness."
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Mr Diggles on July 06, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
They need to assess if he's ready for top level football? After paying £6m for him 2 seasons ago? Dear me.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 06, 2011, 01:47:31 PM
They need to assess if he's ready for top level football? After paying £6m for him 2 seasons ago? Dear me.

It wasn't McLeish who paid £6million for a third tier footballer unproven in the Premier League, and he's not had many chances to prove himself as yet, so of course he needs to assess him. Personally I think he'll be a good player for us this season but I'm not the manager!
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: SX150 on July 06, 2011, 01:59:20 PM
From the bit of football we have seen from him he looks a good player. He don't seem to have much luck regarding injuries though.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Mazrim on July 06, 2011, 02:06:17 PM
He certainly is ready for the Premier League. The only reason he hasn't figured more is because of a very serious injury.
Don't be a prick now Alex.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Concrete John on July 06, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
"I think it's time for Fabian Delph to show the reason why Villa invested a decent sum of money on a very young player.

"The challenge is there for Fabian. He can certainly tackle as well as pass the ball. He's got that quality.

"He's got a determined attitude and believes in himself."

"We'll get a good idea in pre-season and will assess him then. I have to assess if he is ready for the Premier League.

"But for him, after his injury problems, to get a full season would be a massive boost to his mental toughness."

It's sometimes better to read the quotes without the journalists spin.  It all sounds pretty positive for me and I think we'll see him emerge as a star next season.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: UsualSuspect on July 06, 2011, 02:07:36 PM
In fairness to Delph MON signed him but then didn't really bother trying to integrate him into the side, then he got injured and the GH prefered that cock Pires.

I remember watching him against Man Ure at home about 18 months ago and thinking how good he looked. I would love to see him in the centre of a midfield 5
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on July 06, 2011, 02:12:02 PM

I remember watching him against Man Ure at home about 18 months ago and thinking how good he looked. I would love to see him in the centre of a midfield 5
Agree.
He'd be perfect next to Makoun and (in my dreams) Parker.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Villa'Zawg on July 06, 2011, 02:14:02 PM
He can defend and attack, energetic and hard working both with the ball and off it, highly skilful, intelligence and quality in his passing and looks to want to dictate play.

The only worries are whether he can improve his tackling (I think he will) and will he be able to avoid further serious injury.

I was very pleased that we awarded him a new 4 year contract a few months ago.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on July 06, 2011, 02:19:26 PM
He certainly is ready for the Premier League. The only reason he hasn't figured more is because of a very serious injury.
Don't be a prick now Alex.

Well it's obvious what your thoughts on the manager are. He's said what he thought needed to be said to get the best out of Delph. He's laid the challenge down to Delph to step up and he obviously thinks Delph can do this this, hence the comments. No idea what your "don't be a prick now" nonsense is for.

McLeish is not the sort of manager to alienate players. It seems to be one of his biggest assests is that players hold him in high regard, enjoy working with him, respect him and will put in 100% for him (unlike Houllier).
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: darren woolley on July 06, 2011, 02:23:24 PM
I hope he get's lots of game time and stays clear of injuries he can be a top top player I think McLeish will give him game time this season so fingers crossed he stays off the treatment table.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Concrete John on July 06, 2011, 02:25:37 PM
If you think what McLeish was able to get from the similar, but vastly less skilled, Craig Gardner, then it bodes well for young Fabian. 
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Mazrim on July 06, 2011, 02:32:24 PM
He certainly is ready for the Premier League. The only reason he hasn't figured more is because of a very serious injury.
Don't be a prick now Alex.

Well it's obvious what your thoughts on the manager are. He's said what he thought needed to be said to get the best out of Delph. He's laid the challenge down to Delph to step up and he obviously thinks Delph can do this this, hence the comments. No idea what your "don't be a prick now" nonsense is for.

McLeish is not the sort of manager to alienate players. It seems to be one of his biggest assests is that players hold him in high regard, enjoy working with him, respect him and will put in 100% for him (unlike Houllier).

(http://images.inmagine.com/img/zefarf/crzs001/crzs0011571.jpg)
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: TheSandman on July 06, 2011, 02:37:47 PM
If he stays injury free next season I reckon he will show why we paid so much for him and prove to be worth more.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: timeoutbigbar on July 06, 2011, 02:42:14 PM
It's ALWAYS better to read the quotes without the journalists spin.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: DrGonzo on July 06, 2011, 02:42:56 PM
Fair enough from the manager I would say.  £6m was probably twice what we should have paid for a player of his experience. He was unlucky to pick up such a bad injury so soon after arriving.  If he can stay fit this season I think we really will start to see the form he's only shown in flashes so far.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: martin on July 06, 2011, 03:18:22 PM
A season free of injury will give a better idea of what we've got. On the evidence of what we've seen, it looks like we've got a player of massive potential who's likely to pick up a lot of yellow cards and a lot of injuries unless that potential is harnessed. Hopefully we've got the coaching staff up to the task.

How many clubs did we beat for his signature? He's good all right.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on July 06, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
He can defend and attack, energetic and hard working both with the ball and off it, highly skilful, intelligence and quality in his passing and looks to want to dictate play.

The only worries are whether he can improve his tackling (I think he will) and will he be able to avoid further serious injury.

I was very pleased that we awarded him a new 4 year contract a few months ago.


Well let's hope he doesn't pull up too many trees next season or he'll be next through the exit.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: levico on July 06, 2011, 04:13:21 PM
Is this shorthand for 'don't expect many signings - we'll use what we've got' ?
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: oldtimernow on July 06, 2011, 04:17:01 PM
Henderson 25 million........Delph 6million.....mmmm...bargain for me (hopefully)
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Eigentor on July 06, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
Is this shorthand for 'don't expect many signings - we'll use what we've got' ?

I just hope it isn't shorthand for 'we'll expect Delph to replace NRC'.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Concrete John on July 06, 2011, 04:22:28 PM
Is this shorthand for 'don't expect many signings - we'll use what we've got' ?

I don't think a manager should come in and just expect to wield the cheque book and buy all his own players.  He also has to be able to take what he inherits and get the most out of them, be that existing superstars or fringe players who get a 2nd chance.

Barry has heading for the Portsmouth for around £5m when MON arrived and look what a new manager did for him.  I'd hope McLeish can do similar with one or two. 
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 06, 2011, 04:39:08 PM
It's time for Delph to get into the team and make that position his own before fucking off to Liverpool or Man City/United.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: oldtimernow on July 06, 2011, 04:43:34 PM
well that must be worth an extra 20 million on current dealings
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: cdward on July 06, 2011, 05:28:38 PM
It's time for Delph to get into the team and make that position his own before fucking off to Liverpool or Man City/United.
you beat me to it. He'll be gone in January then.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Chris Smith on July 06, 2011, 05:50:32 PM
They need to assess if he's ready for top level football? After paying £6m for him 2 seasons ago? Dear me.

Yes, we paid it based on potential. I reckon he's got what it takes but you can't know for certain until he's had an extended run.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Rigadon on July 06, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
Looks like a bit of a show me what you've got approach from AM.  Didn't know he'd signed a renewed deal, a good indicator that he does have the game to succeed in the league.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: citizenDJ on July 06, 2011, 06:23:23 PM
Delph looks like a good player to me and I wouldn't be surprised if he is a regular feature in our midfield next season, if he can stay free of injuries of course. That said, i'd rather see him as part of a midfield three than a pair, so I suppose it depends how we set up. With the players we currently have, and seemingly linked to, i'd guess at 4-3-3, though.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on July 06, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
It's time for Delph to get into the team and make that position his own before fucking off to Liverpool or Man City/United.
you beat me to it. He'll be gone in January then.
After saying in December how much he loves it here.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on July 06, 2011, 08:19:29 PM
He certainly is ready for the Premier League. The only reason he hasn't figured more is because of a very serious injury.
Don't be a prick now Alex.

Well it's obvious what your thoughts on the manager are. He's said what he thought needed to be said to get the best out of Delph. He's laid the challenge down to Delph to step up and he obviously thinks Delph can do this this, hence the comments. No idea what your "don't be a prick now" nonsense is for.

McLeish is not the sort of manager to alienate players. It seems to be one of his biggest assests is that players hold him in high regard, enjoy working with him, respect him and will put in 100% for him (unlike Houllier).

(http://images.inmagine.com/img/zefarf/crzs001/crzs0011571.jpg)

It's OK, you're forgiven for your little strop with Alex. Just don't do it again otherwise you will be sent to your room with no tea.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 06, 2011, 08:23:14 PM
What's wrong with using Delph and having a proper look at him? Some people read the worst into everything.

 
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on July 06, 2011, 09:18:35 PM
He needs to stay injury free first. Take it from there
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on July 07, 2011, 02:42:45 AM
He is very self critical. Which shows he wants to improve. Think he is going to be a massive player for Villa .........
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Greg N'Ash on July 07, 2011, 06:47:17 AM
Paid mad money for him imo, but i suppose the way its going AM has gotta hope he comes good as he's running out of players to pin his hopes on. Won't be long now before we get the first "Ireland not mad at all" or "Beye impresses in training" headlines.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: ktvillan on July 07, 2011, 11:43:29 AM
He certainly is ready for the Premier League. The only reason he hasn't figured more is because of a very serious injury.
Don't be a prick now Alex.

Indeed, a cock-eyed blindman could see that he has always looked the part when he's been fit to play, so somewhat strange to be saying he has to prove himself.  It might be AM letting Delph know he's in his plans and the chance is there for him but strange way of putting it.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on July 07, 2011, 11:48:11 AM
hopefully he meant in terms of proving fitness and consistancy...
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 07, 2011, 12:50:49 PM
Has AM ever spent that kind of money on a player ??
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: DeeBoy1 on July 07, 2011, 01:49:09 PM
Little reminder of what he was doing a few years back...



...get his confidence back up and a full pre season in him and we've got a hell of a player on our hands!
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: GJH on July 07, 2011, 06:59:58 PM
Says Mcleish!! The man that paid £6m for that lankey waste of space Zigic! And £3m for Curtis Davies!!!

What does he know about paying large decent sums for players!!  He should keep his mouth shut the bluenose pr#*k!!

I'll cast judgement on who he buys this summer - if any!!! Resign now before you are sacked!!
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Ger Regan on July 08, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
Says Mcleish!! The man that paid £6m for that lankey waste of space Zigic! And £3m for Curtis Davies!!!

What does he know about paying large decent sums for players!!  He should keep his mouth shut the bluenose pr#*k!!

I'll cast judgement on who he buys this summer - if any!!! Resign now before you are sacked!!
Yes, you're really showing admirable restraint in reserving judgement on the manager. Well done you.

And wasn't it widely reported that zigic was a "present" from the board, rather than McLeish's target?
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 08, 2011, 07:53:20 PM
Says Mcleish!! The man that paid £6m for that lankey waste of space Zigic! And £3m for Curtis Davies!!!

What does he know about paying large decent sums for players!!  He should keep his mouth shut the bluenose pr#*k!!

I'll cast judgement on who he buys this summer - if any!!! Resign now before you are sacked!!

Serious question how old are you?
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: GJH on July 08, 2011, 09:01:50 PM
Sorry, having a bad day yesterday.
Title: Re: McLeish to Delph 'Show why we paid a decent sum for you.'
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 10, 2011, 02:04:06 PM
Think he will be an excellent player for us, just needs to stay fit.
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