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Title: Turnaround ??
Post by: Gazza1982 on June 29, 2011, 10:26:14 PM
Is it me or do I feel a VERY slow turnaround in the air regarding Alex McLeish?. Like most others I was aghast at the very mention of him even being considered by the Villa. Actually appointing him seemed to be a MAJOR mistake and complete failure of Randy to measure the depth of feeling of the supporters. Even more baffling considering that McClaren was apparently not even interviewed due to the feeling of the fans.
However, like many others I was impressed by his words and apparent conviction and good old common sense with his first press conference. I am also liking his dabblings and possible signings in the transfer market. Yes,yes i know none have become concrete yet but the pursuit of Canales/Foster/Given/N'Zogbia and his apparent wish to nurture and give the likes of Bannon and Lichaj a chance all ring the right chords with me personally.
The first three games are very winnable and will go a long way to determine the kind of season we are likely to be in for. We all know there will be no honeymoon period but I just get the feeling (yes,prove me wrong )that some on here,including me are softening a little towards ol'ginger pubes.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: timeoutbigbar on June 29, 2011, 10:30:59 PM
I don't think there has been much change at all.  We're in the same situation as the day he was appointed, and that is that we have no option but to give him a chance and judge him on the results and performances.  Some of these names are all very nice, but at this stage it is all speculation.  Regardless of what names are brought in, the results will still be the means by which he is judged.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 29, 2011, 10:38:07 PM
I don't feel anything towards him at present.

I'll judge him on....

Signings
Style of play
Results

We'll see come may
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 29, 2011, 10:41:37 PM
The pursuit of anyone is just press chatter at the moment.

If there is any change in the way people feel about him, it is going to be entirely down to the fact that we've had time to get used to it. He's not said owt since the press conference, so there isn't anything to judge him on.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: D.boy on June 29, 2011, 10:42:46 PM
I think it's a case of reluctant acceptance for some and hope/blind faith for others. McLeish is our manager and we collectively are Aston Villa so it would be best if we were all on the same side.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: TheSandman on June 29, 2011, 10:46:32 PM
The last stage of grief is acceptance.

A real turnaround with people liking and being happy with him as manager will only result from a good run of results.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Chris Smith on June 29, 2011, 10:51:16 PM
Anyone else see this thread title and start singing Bonnie Tyler?
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Louzie0 on June 29, 2011, 10:58:02 PM
Thought it was just me!
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Gazza1982 on June 29, 2011, 11:02:55 PM
Anyone else see this thread title and start singing Bonnie Tyler?
Chris,my old friend,been a while,knew I could rely on you.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Slaphead on June 29, 2011, 11:10:02 PM
I always look forward to the new season and can't wait for the first game. Hating McLeish would ruin my anticipation so I have no choice but to support him and pretend to myself that he is a hidden gem and could take us to the top.

Around October I will be thinking that he has just had a bad start, he can pull it together and just needs to settle in.

December will be about anticipating the much needed signings, if he gets the right men we coud end up with a good sqaud and strenghten, he has only had half a season, give him another transfer window to get in his guys and he could pull off a massive turnaround.

February I am wanting the season to end, I'm turning up late to the games and very intoxicated.

April I am getting another round in at 14:55, half time I am staying in the concourse enjoying my pint whilst watching the game on the screen. Going back to my seat will mean further to walk when the game finishes and put me at more risk from falling down the stairs.

Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: D.boy on June 29, 2011, 11:10:40 PM
My first thought as well bright eyes.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Gazza1982 on June 29, 2011, 11:28:55 PM
So Slaphead, it seems like every Feb and April you fall apart?
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: TheSandman on June 29, 2011, 11:36:01 PM
February you can fall apart
March, April break my heart (especially given our March form)
May doesn't even start (because the season ends)
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Slaphead on June 29, 2011, 11:48:01 PM
I'm just a bit nervous and feel that the best of all years have gone by.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Gazza1982 on June 29, 2011, 11:54:51 PM
Just remember Slaphead, forever's gonna start tonight.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: django on June 30, 2011, 02:04:59 AM
He might not be a very good manager but he's our not very good manager!
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: darren woolley on June 30, 2011, 04:45:47 AM
I'm also looking forward to the new season with McLeish in charge like Slaphead has said can't wait for the new season to start.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Gaztonniller on June 30, 2011, 07:29:06 AM
Wait til the first string of defeats comes then you'll see the real turnaround.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on June 30, 2011, 07:42:15 AM
Obviously there has been a turnaround.
It's the Marlon Harewood syndrome.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: The Gruffalo on June 30, 2011, 08:26:10 AM
Not so much a turnaround, just acceptance that he's here, nothings gonna change that in the short term, and kicking off about it constantly is counter productive.   We all want a successful Villa, and if McLeish can provide it then brilliant - Lets give him the chance to prove our misgivings were unfounded.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 30, 2011, 08:30:28 AM
We'll be top after 6 games & we'll all be saying how great he is.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: jonzy85 on June 30, 2011, 10:55:42 AM
The turnaround happened the minute he was appointed.

He went from being the manager that none of us wanted to our manager, whom we must get behind.

For me he starts with a clean slate. He's done nothing since appointed to put him in the plus or negative, except saying that he is going to give all the players a clean slate, gets a thumbs up from me. We have to wait and see who he signs this summer and then see how he gets the team playing. Signing Given would be a nice start.

There has been no turnaround with my attitude towards the board. The whole amateurish process of appointing the manager was embarrassing. They must hold out for a king ransom on Downing and give Eck proper funds before there will be a turnaround in attitudes towards them.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: Risso on June 30, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Now he's here, there's nothing to be gained by carrying on moaning about it.  I hope he does well, but don't think he will.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: cdward on June 30, 2011, 12:16:28 PM
He hasn't done anything yet, i think it is premature to suggest there is a "turnaround".
I haven't seen or heard anything yet, to get me excited about the season starting, some people are very easily placated, if just "talking" about N'Zogbia gets them excited.
If anything it is the opposite for me, i have a stomach turning feeling about this season, i worry that this will all go tits up, and the club will fall apart, with fans at each others throats, and the board and chairman given a tough time. The players will respond accordingly, and our Bright Future dream will be well and truly over.
I can only be optimistic that it probably won't be that bad, but i don't believe it will be that good either.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: exigo on June 30, 2011, 12:44:06 PM
It's like moving through the stages of grief.

I've got over the denial.
I've got over the anger.
But I'm stuck in the despair phase.

A £20million central midfielder might get me as far as hope.
Title: Re: Turnaround ??
Post by: nigel on June 30, 2011, 12:50:18 PM
There're still some "half empty" glasses out there!!  ;D
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