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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: K3Villa on June 23, 2011, 10:10:20 AM
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Firstly I have no interest in Take That.
I've been asked by a girl at work who is going if I knew what the capacity of Villa Park is for these gigs. I guessed at 20,000. Anyone know the actual figure? She's stressing about the "big crowd" would you believe.
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I'll see if I can find out the figures later K3Villa, if you could have a little patience till I find out.
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I'll see if I can find out the figures later K3Villa, if you could have a little patience till I find out.
No probs mate. Ta for the help, I'll Never Forget you.
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I saw 48,000 mentioned somewhere?
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yes saw similar figure mentioned of about 100,000 over the 2 days.Must be cramming the corporates and standing in
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I would imagine the stage will be set up in front of the north stand, so you will lose about a third of trinity and a third of the Doug ellis and then gain all of the pitch so about 35-40 i reckon
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I'm going. I just Pray it doesn't rain. If it does, we can expect a Flood.
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Yes saw a similar figure somewhere of 100,000 over the 2 days. Must be cramming in the corporates and standing...sorrry double post
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I'm going. I just Pray it doesn't rain. If it does, we can expect a Flood.
It's a very long gig, they play about a million love songs.
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ticketmaster reckon approx 40k. It only takes a minute to look it up......
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You'd have thought they'd Said it All by then, though that's Kidz for you.
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I'm going. I just Pray it doesn't rain. If it does, we can expect a Flood.
It's a very long gig, they play about a million love songs.
Hopefully this will relight the fire of the Villa protesters who will attack the band.
I'd heard 65,000 by the way.
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I wonder if it will be like the Springsteen gigs where you could still hear it five miles away? two days of the bass parts from Take That songs shaking the house. Great.......
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I pray that they don’t ruin the pitch as it might affect Eck’s free flowing football although I suppose it would only take a minute for him to revert back to type.
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They're fuckin' shit.
No pun used or intended.
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They hadn't better get 'over excited' on my seat ...........................then again !!
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will Take That use the Villa Park PA system ?, hope so, it is as shit as they are !
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It'd also be interesting to find out how much Villa will make from the two gigs.
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They're fuckin' shit.
It's one of the 'hidden' tracks on their latest CD.
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49,999 tickets sold - 28K on the pitch alone
Was there last night and the size of the operation is incredible - stage is mainly on the north stand and goes the full length of the pitch
I am working it and the detail that has gone into the operation is amazing - including our roles. Fair play to the Ops people at VP they are so organised and are held in such high esteem not just in football
It is worth a mint to the club and if successful they are hopeful of more in the future
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Do you know if they need any more 'helpers' Hookey?
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49,999 tickets sold - 28K on the pitch alone
Was there last night and the size of the operation is incredible - stage is mainly on the north stand and goes the full length of the pitch
I am working it and the detail that has gone into the operation is amazing - including our roles. Fair play to the Ops people at VP they are so organised and are held in such high esteem not just in football
It is worth a mint to the club and if successful they are hopeful of more in the future
Nice one. Ta for the info. I think that will spook her even more with that crowd quoted.
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Do you know if they need any more 'helpers' Hookey?
Are you outing yourself as a, err, Take Thatty (what do you call them?) Dave?
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What was the last concert at Villa Park?
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The pitch will be a fuckin quagmire again by October.
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What was the last concert at Villa Park?
Wasn't it Rod Stewart when the locals were advised to go to Paris for the day if they didn't like the noise?
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What was the last concert at Villa Park?
Wasn't it Rod Stewart when the locals were advised to go to Paris for the day if they didn't like the noise?
1993/94? Interesting. If it makes money for the club I'm all for it.
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Rod Stewart in '93. I sat in the North Stand, the concert was in the round with the stage on the pitch. The Witton Lane was only half done with the bottom tier missing.
Old Rod had caused a stir when advising the local residents to "go to Paris for the day" when they lodged complaints about the noise and disruption. In response they held a french themed party on the edge of Aston Park outside the Trinity and were roundly ignored by the passing concert goers.
Belinda Carlisle was the support and I had a 99.
I've been to more memorable gigs, I have to confess.
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49,999 tickets sold - 28K on the pitch alone
Was there last night and the size of the operation is incredible - stage is mainly on the north stand and goes the full length of the pitch
I am working it and the detail that has gone into the operation is amazing - including our roles. Fair play to the Ops people at VP they are so organised and are held in such high esteem not just in football
It is worth a mint to the club and if successful they are hopeful of more in the future
49,999 x 2 nights and i guessed 100,000. Does that mean i get a head start in the guess the crowd competition ?
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28K on the pitch alone
Whats got 56000 legs and no pubic hair........
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The pitch will be a fuckin quagmire again by October.
It'll be covered and/or it'll get relaid straight after. I've got a feeling the club relay the pitch every summer anyway.
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there will be 98% mid 30's fanny! God i want to be a steward!
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there will be 98% mid 30's fanny! God i want to be a steward!
Most of our stewards are too old & fat to appreciate young crumpet. Free pies and bovril, now you're talking. Phwoaaaaarrrrrrr
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there will be 98% mid 30's fanny! God i want to be a steward!
They'll all be pissed too, the fanny I mean and not the stewards!
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Girl I work with has asked about car parking (she's travelling from Oxfordshire). I've suggested by the Barton Arms or the City Centre and then go by train. Any other ideas?
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there will be 98% mid 30's fanny! God i want to be a steward!
They'll all be pissed too, the fanny I mean and not the stewards!
Yes they will. They have "standing seats" and "drink hawkers". Why can't I have "standing seats" and "drink hawkers" when I go to Villa Park?
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How much do you reckon these concerts are worth to the Villa and why haven't we staged any others since Mr Blobby was number one for Christmas (and indeed since Take That's original zenith)?
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The set up for it is amazing - there must have been 40 artic lorries in the car park and 100-150 guys working on stage and rigging etc.
The pitch has been taken up and is fully boarded
The planning is superb and to be fair the Villa are very good at this sort of thing
I remember Rod Stewart - i was in the tunnel when he got into a flight case and was wheeled out to the round stage. Belinda Carlisle was goegeous close up and very sweaty
Have also done Duran Duran, Springsteen, and Billy Graham (that was an experience)
I have some pictures on my phone of the stage being built if someone can show me how to put them on here :-[
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My sister has three tickets for tomorrow night as she now can't attend. Looking to sell them at face value. If anyone is interested let me know.
Thank you
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PM sent
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Boo frickin' hoo. I wonder how many crank calls this woman had today (http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midlands-news/2011/06/26/take-that-ticket-agony-for-tamworth-woman-who-cancelled-wedding-to-see-jason-mark-robbie-howard-and-gary-66331-28941614/)
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Bet there will be bigger crowds to watch Take That than we will attract playing Big Ecks style of football next season.
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Bet there will be bigger crowds to watch Take That than we will attract playing Big Ecks style of football next season.
Yes, because we aren't allowed to stand on the pitch when there is a football match on so I guess you will be right.
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Bet there will be bigger crowds to watch Take That than we will attract playing Big Ecks style of football next season.
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Correct we wont be allowed to stand on the pitch while there is a game being played but the whole North Stand won't be closed either.
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Bet there will be bigger crowds to watch Take That than we will attract playing Big Ecks style of football next season.
Well done.
You win this thread's "Let's make every single fucking thread yet another tedious rant at Villa, McLeish and the board" award.
Congratulations.
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Bet there will be bigger crowds to watch Take That than we will attract playing Big Ecks style of football next season.
As it's been established that the capacity is bigger than for football matches, and the gigs are both sold out, you might well be right.
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I just can't beleive we are letting them soil our stadium with their 'music'.
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as long as those pissed up middle aged ladettes dont damage any of our ground ...
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I thought O'Neill's team's endless cycle of aimless balls whipped in from the wings was the least entertaining thing to be seen at Villa Park, but I imagine this evening is even worse.
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I just can't beleive we are letting them soil our stadium with their 'music'.
I can think of one very good reason.
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Took me over an hour and half to travel the 15 miles home this evening because of these ******.
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Twitter does have its uses for those who are curious what Villa Park looks like right about now: pics (http://astonvilla-views.com/2011/06/27/pictures-of-villa-park-in-a-different-way-avfc/)
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I wonder will Robbie mention the last time (or perhaps first time) he was at Villa Park, when we twatted his beloved Vale.
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I hope Robbie and his mob are more entertaining than the last lot from Stoke on Trent to visit zzzzzz
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Twitter does have its uses for those who are curious what Villa Park looks like right about now: pics (http://astonvilla-views.com/2011/06/27/pictures-of-villa-park-in-a-different-way-avfc/)
Don't enourage ihm.
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Twitter does have its uses for those who are curious what Villa Park looks like right about now: pics (http://astonvilla-views.com/2011/06/27/pictures-of-villa-park-in-a-different-way-avfc/)
Don't enourage ihm.
The link was from Twitter, I'm innocent of anything you throw at me.
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I went to the concert (it doesn't qualify as a gig) tonight with the missus. I was intrigued to go to a concert at VP as I didn't have the opportunity or the inclination to attend the Rod Stewart one.
I'm not sure how much was down to the Villa and how much was the Take That organisation but it was all handled pretty impressively. It's awesome to see so many people in VP and I hope they do more events like that, hopefully with bands I actually want to see in the future!
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My sister was there and tells me it was somethimng like 45,800.
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My sister was there and tells me it was somethimng like 45,800.
It was 48,500 and something - they put it up on one of the big screens at the start.
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Biggest crowd we have had for years.
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Sorry to upset you Dave Cooper, i thought you were allowed to express your own opinion on here. Seems to me i was wrong.Maybe i should pretend like you that everything is just perfect at the club i love and have been watching for just over 50 years.
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Worked it last night and my summary is as follows:
12 hour day and was knackered by the end of it
48,565 was the official attendance
Not a fan of the music (although have to be honest an say some of the tracks are decent) but had to be the most spectacular set i have ever seen
It felt like it was a RW show and take that were there - he is a very good entertainer, even if you do not like his music
The organisation, presentation, and overall image by everyone i spoke to said the club and its employees did them proud.
Spoke to a few people who had been to other shows on this tour and they said that the atmosphere was the best
Now the not so good
I have worked at the club for 26 years and during that time seen riots, violence and all sorts
Give me aggressive male football fans over pissed up women any day of the week
An absolute nightmare - imagine having a job of telling 50+ years old women to put their saggy tits away - there was spew everywhere, women having a piss in the gents and the language off what you would expect to be middle class mothers was shocking even for me.
As much as it was hard work it has not only made millions for the club but also raised its profile again and i am sure that we will get big events here again as the acoustics was fantastic and VP really is a good settinhg for a concert - even if the transport infrastructure was not up to it
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Bring back Duran Duran ;-o
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As much as it was hard work it has not only made millions for the club but also raised its profile
Surely not millions ? Do the club just hire out the facilities to the concert promoters for a fixed rate or do they organise the tickets sales and payment of the group etc too ? By my calculations if its 2 nights totalling 90,000 plus, the club would be having to clear £11 per head for each million made.
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I have worked at the club for 26 years and during that time seen riots, violence and all sorts
Give me aggressive male football fans over pissed up women any day of the week
An absolute nightmare - imagine having a job of telling 50+ years old women to put their saggy tits away - there was spew everywhere, women having a piss in the gents and the language off what you would expect to be middle class mothers was shocking even for me.
Exactly the same thing happened when they played at the Ricoh Arena a couple of years ago.
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As much as it was hard work it has not only made millions for the club but also raised its profile
Surely not millions ? Do the club just hire out the facilities to the concert promoters for a fixed rate or do they organise the tickets sales and payment of the group etc too ? By my calculations if its 2 nights totalling 90,000 plus, the club would be having to clear £11 per head for each million made.
I dont know this for sure but i would imagine the club have a cut of almost everything but the official merchandise - its not like Take That have their own food and drink outlets as the majority of what was open was the normal football kiosks with some extras thrown in (apart from the prices that were what you would expect nowadays from the likes of Wembley / NEC / NIA). when you look at the prices of tickets / food / drink etc £11 per head is easily achievable
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An absolute nightmare - imagine having a job of telling 50+ years old women to put their saggy tits away - there was spew everywhere, women having a piss in the gents and the language off what you would expect to be middle class mothers was shocking even for me.
I thought that you were at Villa Park, not on a night out in Newport with all the loverly Welsh ladies
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Paid for hospitality in the Sky Lounge last night as it was our anniversary. Didn't know what to expect buy they know how to put on a show. Without Robbie it wouldn't have been as entertaining, he had the crowd in his hands and made a big fuss about being back in the Midlands. He even broke out into Red Red Wine at one point. Enjoyed the free bar and the food was excellent. My understanding is that Take That get all the gate receipts except the hospitality packages. The staff were fantastic even the ones watching the gig over out shoulders on the balcony. I think it proved that VP can match anywhere for big stadium gigs.
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Did any one on here attend the Bruce Springsteen concert in 1988 at VP?
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Sorry to upset you Dave Cooper, i thought you were allowed to express your own opinion on here. Seems to me i was wrong.Maybe i should pretend like you that everything is just perfect at the club i love and have been watching for just over 50 years.
Who said everything was perfect?
We have a gazillion threads discussing how shit everything is at Villa Park at the moment, why do you and many others feel the need to bring the same arguments into every other one? Do you think that we don't read the other threads where you have stated your viewpoint on how everything is shit or something?
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Did any one on here attend the Bruce Springsteen concert in 1988 at VP?
I did.
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Can not speak for the many others you mention but i tell it as it is. If we do something good i will applaud it and say so. At the moment my club dont seem to be getting much right .What is the point of this forum if someone is scared to make a comment because it might upset you. I will ask you a question, what gives you the right to be sarcastic to me just because i said something that annoyed you.
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What't the point of a forum if you can't be sarcastic and why shouldn't someone respond if you've annoyed them?
As for your point that the club can't seem to get anything right that is just your opinion. Have you considered that the club might be thinking everything is going just right at the moment?
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I feel sure the club are thinking everything is going just right at the moment, i and many others dont, do you think everything is right at the moment then ?
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Christ.
It's a thread about a concert. I'm not massively impressed with the club myself recently, but jesus, how on earth does the fact there was a concert at the ground last night get you so wound up?
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I feel sure the club are thinking everything is going just right at the moment, i and many others don't, do you think everything is right at the moment then ?
I certainly don't think it's as grey and bleak as many are making out. I'm also looking forward to the new season to see what transpires, I feel we will do better than last season, sorry if you find this a little too optimistic.
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Bren, i hope your right and we have a much better season than last and our new manager makes people like me who dont want him eat our words.
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Christ.
It's a thread about a concert. I'm not massively impressed with the club myself recently, but jesus, how on earth does the fact there was a concert at the ground last night get you so wound up?
And would there be such a fuss if it had been a proper group, rather than a bunch of middle age blokes pretending that they're still a boyband ?
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will Take That use the Villa Park PA system ?, hope so, it is as shit as they are !
The answer is an emphatic 'NO' Dr Butler ................it was audible in Streetly last night-
Weird that I can't hear team news on matchday in L6 - must be my hearing aid or the beer !
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Did any one on here attend the Bruce Springsteen concert in 1988 at VP?
I did.
That is at least two of us. Fantastic 4 hours from Brucie with only a 15 mins break in between.
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Did any one on here attend the Bruce Springsteen concert in 1988 at VP?
I did.
That is at least two of us. Fantastic 4 hours from Brucie with only a 15 mins break in between.
and me, that makes 3 of us...........
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A friend went last night and said the food was truly awful inside the ground. They stopped selling burgers as so many had been returned due to being virtually inedible and the hot dog they had instead was in their words the worst thing they have ever eaten.
I said she was lucky as I have to do that every home game!!
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I know someone who went last nite and their friends were still in the leisure centre car park @ 12:30 am, the concert finished @ 22:30pm....There were no extra trains from New St to Witton/Aston and back again and there were thousands waiting for the trains that were running
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Did any one on here attend the Bruce Springsteen concert in 1988 at VP?
I did.
That is at least two of us. Fantastic 4 hours from Brucie with only a 15 mins break in between.
and me, that makes 3 of us...........
make that 4........
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5.
I paid full price the day before but touts were giving away tickets on the day.
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I know someone who went last nite and their friends were still in the leisure centre car park @ 12:30 am, the concert finished @ 22:30pm....There were no extra trains from New St to Witton/Aston and back again and there were thousands waiting for the trains that were running
I've been to big outdoor gigs all over the country and the situation is identical, after Springsteen at LCCC we walked into Manchester in order to get the Metro back out past the venue again to where we were staying. It took at least three hours to get off the very muddy car park at Alton Towers after seeing James in '92. If possible I stay over rather than try to get home to avoid all that aggro and Cardiff is perfect for this with the City Centre on the doorstep of the Stadium with loads of cheap-ish hotels.
And make that six as far as Springsteen at Villa Park is concerned.
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Can not speak for the many others you mention but i tell it as it is. If we do something good i will applaud it and say so. At the moment my club dont seem to be getting much right .What is the point of this forum if someone is scared to make a comment because it might upset you. I will ask you a question, what gives you the right to be sarcastic to me just because i said something that annoyed you.
Be pissed off, be angry, post about how shite it all is, just do it on one of the hundreds of threads already devoted to the subject rather than on one of the few threads about something else.
Or just carry on being annoyed about everything, I don't really care to be honest.
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My mums gone tonight and asked me where to go for pubs, she wins blonde moment of the year award:
She was looking for the aston social and rang me up
Her: does it have green across the top of it
Me: does it say aston social on it?
Her: yes
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One of my big regrets is not seeing Bruce Springsteen at VP, and not knowing why I didn't.
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The wife has gone and I can hear the concert out of the window, the good thing is I can tell when I'll have to turn the porn off.
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Take That fans at both nights bitching about congestion. Would love to sympathise, but the lion always outwits the dumb sheep.
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Did any one on here attend the Bruce Springsteen concert in 1988 at VP?
I did.
That is at least two of us. Fantastic 4 hours from Brucie with only a 15 mins break in between.
and me, that makes 3 of us...........
make that 4........
I was there too. It reached the levels of 'ok' for me, felt very formulaic.
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I didn't attend the Bruce Springsteen concert. I actually stood outside encouraging people not to go in. So I cancel all you lot out.
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I didn't attend the Bruce Springsteen concert. I actually stood outside encouraging people not to go in. So I cancel all you lot out.
No you didn't. You were seven at the time.
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As much as it was hard work it has not only made millions for the club but also raised its profile
Surely not millions ? Do the club just hire out the facilities to the concert promoters for a fixed rate or do they organise the tickets sales and payment of the group etc too ? By my calculations if its 2 nights totalling 90,000 plus, the club would be having to clear £11 per head for each million made.
I know for a fact that the club made more from these two concerts than they did from our European campaign the year we were knocked out by Moscow.
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As much as it was hard work it has not only made millions for the club but also raised its profile
Surely not millions ? Do the club just hire out the facilities to the concert promoters for a fixed rate or do they organise the tickets sales and payment of the group etc too ? By my calculations if its 2 nights totalling 90,000 plus, the club would be having to clear £11 per head for each million made.
I know for a fact that the club made more from these two concerts than they did from our European campaign the year we were knocked out by Moscow.
On that basis then I bet we've earnt more out of these two concerts than all of our European campaigns under MON added together.
Finishing 6th was clearly overrated - let's just get early-90s boybands in every summer instead!
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Bren, i hope your right and we have a much better season than last and our new manager makes people like me who dont want him eat our words.
Commercial business make a profit out of commerical enterprise on one of 330 days when said commercial business not using facility for main purpose.
Fucks sake if villa park gets used 5 or 6 times for events like this a year it wil have no impact on footy team and add millions to coffers
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As much as it was hard work it has not only made millions for the club but also raised its profile
Surely not millions ? Do the club just hire out the facilities to the concert promoters for a fixed rate or do they organise the tickets sales and payment of the group etc too ? By my calculations if its 2 nights totalling 90,000 plus, the club would be having to clear £11 per head for each million made.
I know for a fact that the club made more from these two concerts than they did from our European campaign the year we were knocked out by Moscow.
On that basis then I bet we've earnt more out of these two concerts than all of our European campaigns under MON added together.
Finishing 6th was clearly overrated - let's just get early-90s boybands in every summer instead!
I also know that the groundsman is fuming about the pitch because the pitch dips in the middle due to the weight of the cranes.
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As much as it was hard work it has not only made millions for the club but also raised its profile
Surely not millions ? Do the club just hire out the facilities to the concert promoters for a fixed rate or do they organise the tickets sales and payment of the group etc too ? By my calculations if its 2 nights totalling 90,000 plus, the club would be having to clear £11 per head for each million made.
I know for a fact that the club made more from these two concerts than they did from our European campaign the year we were knocked out by Moscow.
On that basis then I bet we've earnt more out of these two concerts than all of our European campaigns under MON added together.
Finishing 6th was clearly overrated - let's just get early-90s boybands in every summer instead!
As long as they put the full team out and don't stick in a tribute Robbie Williams.
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The wife has gone and I can hear the concert out of the window, the good thing is I can tell when I'll have to turn the porn off.
And that's the fourth genuine LOL post tonight, you lot are on form!
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As much as it was hard work it has not only made millions for the club but also raised its profile
Surely not millions ? Do the club just hire out the facilities to the concert promoters for a fixed rate or do they organise the tickets sales and payment of the group etc too ? By my calculations if its 2 nights totalling 90,000 plus, the club would be having to clear £11 per head for each million made.
I know for a fact that the club made more from these two concerts than they did from our European campaign the year we were knocked out by Moscow.
On that basis then I bet we've earnt more out of these two concerts than all of our European campaigns under MON added together.
Finishing 6th was clearly overrated - let's just get early-90s boybands in every summer instead!
I also know that the groundsman is fuming about the pitch because the pitch dips in the middle due to the weight of the cranes.
Are you sure it's not from Ivanhoe running up and down it?!
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I just noticed this from someone on Twitter. Made me laugh.
I've heard Alex McLeish is at Villa Park tonight, he can't afford Robbie & Gary, but likes the look of the 3 useless wankers at the back.
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I just noticed this from someone on Twitter. Made me laugh.
I've heard Alex McLeish is at Villa Park tonight, he can't afford Robbie & Gary, but likes the look of the 3 useless wankers at the back.
Marvellous.
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I just found out that the Pet Shop Boys were supporting Take That.
Did someone have the lineup upside down?
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I've been to collect Mrs Jembob from VP tonight. My attempts at blagging my way in for free were fruitless and I had to hang around outside with all of the other middle aged husband/taxi drivers. I did however sneak a look inside through the gap between the Holte and The Doug and must say it looked awesome - I've never seen the Trininty from that perspective before and it looked really great but I'm hoping that my season ticket seat isn't splattered with Pimms vomit come next season. Apparently they were selling XL-sized Pimms for £18 each. One thing I did notice was that there were some empty seats in thee top corners of the Upper Trinity so some things never change.
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I just found out that the Pet Shop Boys were supporting Take That.
Did someone have the lineup upside down?
Apparently went down like a sack of the proverbial.
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I just found out that the Pet Shop Boys were supporting Take That.
Did someone have the lineup upside down?
Apparently went down like a sack of the proverbial.
Well yes, we are talking a load of 35+ pissed up women wanting Robbie, they may as well have just showed a big screen projection of an erect cock.
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Fine tommy cooper! Matermind on everything,not really interested in the bullshit you spout to be honest
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By the beard of Zeus, Pooligan, turn it in will you.
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I just found out that the Pet Shop Boys were supporting Take That.
Did someone have the lineup upside down?
Apparently went down like a sack of the proverbial.
Actually was a half fan back in the 80's but have to say they were fantastic - PSB i mean
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Fine tommy cooper! Matermind on everything
There's only ONE Richard Hubbard!
Be off with you.
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Bren, i hope your right and we have a much better season than last and our new manager makes people like me who dont want him eat our words.
that's just it though. There will be some people, like you, that even if and when things go well, will find something else to complain about. We might not be happy about some things to do with Villa right now, but is it everything? Really? Can you not be discerning with your opinion as opposed to generalising?
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I just found out that the Pet Shop Boys were supporting Take That.
Did someone have the lineup upside down?
Apparently went down like a sack of the proverbial.
Well yes, we are talking a load of 35+ pissed up women wanting Robbie, they may as well have just showed a big screen projection of an erect cock.
I just found out that the Pet Shop Boys were supporting Take That.
Did someone have the lineup upside down?
Apparently went down like a sack of the proverbial.
Well yes, we are talking a load of 35+ pissed up women wanting Robbie, they may as well have just showed a big screen projection of an erect cock.
They tried that. Yours couldn't even been seen on the 40ft LED though. ;)
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Puke
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In answer to you Toronto Villa, You run your life and i will run mine. As a supporter for 50 years and season ticket holder for 40 odd years i feel entitled to have my say on my club. Over the years there have been many highs and many lows but whatever ,i have been there because i love the Villa. My love of the Villa does not mean however that i have to pretend like you that everything is rosy. As far as i am concerned the club i love has lost its way a bit over the last year or so and the only chance i get to have my say ,not that it makes any difference, is on here. Smart asses like you piss me off,even when i post saying i really hope that Villa go on to have a much better season than last and the new manager proves me and many like me wrong you still have to come on here telling me how i should act. Just give it a rest.
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In answer to you Toronto Villa, You run your life and i will run mine. As a supporter for 50 years and season ticket holder for 40 odd years i feel entitled to have my say on my club. Over the years there have been many highs and many lows but whatever ,i have been there because i love the Villa. My love of the Villa does not mean however that i have to pretend like you that everything is rosy. As far as i am concerned the club i love has lost its way a bit over the last year or so and the only chance i get to have my say ,not that it makes any difference, is on here. Smart asses like you piss me off,even when i post saying i really hope that Villa go on to have a much better season than last and the new manager proves me and many like me wrong you still have to come on here telling me how i should act. Just give it a rest.
so how did you act when we were relegated back in the 80's? You must have been locked in a dark room until we returned to the top flight. You're acting like these are the darkest days you've seen. In the past 50 or so years the last year doesn't compare to some of the disappointments we've all seen as Villa fans. I never once said everything was rosy. But they are a damn sight better than the disaster you are portraying. Your current demeanour and perspective on the club isn't even willing to give the current management a chance to get it right, to prove that they can improve. You've given up on them which for someone of your experience is both surprising and disappointing. The club needs valuable supporters like yourself more than ever, because only together will we get back to challenging for titles and trophies. But I'm just a smart ass so what would I know?
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Toronto Villa you are wrong. I have not given up on the current management and decided not to give them a chance to get it right. I live in hope that just maybe like back in the days when we won the League and the European Cup, Learner turns out to be like Bendall , who it appeared listened to the manager and let him get on with it.Back then,we did not sell our best players every close season unless Saunders felt it was in the best interests of the team.The same can not be said of the present board can it, we look like losing 2 this year instead of the normal one. Sorry if you think i portray disaster, i dont mean to, i just see my club as being also rans just happy to stay in the Premier and it disappoints me. Oh as for how did i act when we were relegated in the 80s, i will tell you. I renewed my season ticket despite lots of ridicule from family and friends and was glad i did as we managed to get promoted.
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As a supporter for 50 years and season ticket holder for 40 odd years i feel entitled to have my say on my club.
That's all well and good. But it's a bit strange that you're having your say on a thread dedicated to Take That.
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Apparently, the only reason why Jackthevillain never went to see Take That is because he heard that they were being fronted by Rabbi Williams.
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Apparently, the only reason why Jackthevillain never went to see Take That is because he heard that they were being fronted by Rabbi Williams.
And sang Black for Good.
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Apparently, the only reason why Jackthevillain never went to see Take That is because he heard that they were being fronted by Rabbi Williams.
And sang Black for Good.
He was waiting for Six Million Love Songs
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but he got excited when he heard a rumour that the KKK would be belting out their rendition of relight my fire.
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Apparently, the only reason why Jackthevillain never went to see Take That is because he heard that they were being fronted by Rabbi Williams.
And sang Black for Good.
He was waiting for Six Million Love Songs
And 'Relight my (cross with your) fire '
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Gassing Jews. It only takes a minute.
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'Everything changes but Jews'
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Apparently, the only reason why Jackthevillain never went to see Take That is because he heard that they were being fronted by Rabbi Williams.
And sang Black for Good.
He was waiting for Six Million Love Songs
He'd better not see this otherwise he'll be correcting you that it was actually '3-4.5 Million Love Songs'
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'Everything changes but Jews'
*applause*
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And never forget that the indigenous population of South Africa are white dutchmen.
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And never forget that the indigenous population of South Africa are white dutchmen.
Are you sure you don't mean indignant..
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And never forget that the indigenous population of South Africa are white dutchmen.
Only once they patented it.
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Toronto Villa you are wrong. I have not given up on the current management and decided not to give them a chance to get it right. I live in hope that just maybe like back in the days when we won the League and the European Cup, Learner turns out to be like Bendall , who it appeared listened to the manager and let him get on with it.Back then,we did not sell our best players every close season unless Saunders felt it was in the best interests of the team.The same can not be said of the present board can it, we look like losing 2 this year instead of the normal one. Sorry if you think i portray disaster, i dont mean to, i just see my club as being also rans just happy to stay in the Premier and it disappoints me. Oh as for how did i act when we were relegated in the 80s, i will tell you. I renewed my season ticket despite lots of ridicule from family and friends and was glad i did as we managed to get promoted.
The world unfortunately has changed a lot since Saunders was at the club. Clubs could hold on to their players for longer back then. There weren't as many agents putting bugs in players ears about other clubs being interested because ultimately they'd get a cut of the action. Yes, we'll likely lose 4 solid players in 3 summers, and it's massively disappointing. But losing players isn't just happening to us. Every club loses it's players, the best ones figure out ways to get through it and rebuild. We have to find a way to do that. This summer we will hope to sign players ourselves that in some cases will see Villa as a bigger opportunity than their current employer. The very unfortunate thing is that the game has gone this way, loyalty reality doesn't exist as it used to, and when you throw in agents and the Bosman rule, players simply can't be tied down. Our task is to become a club where players want to stay as opposed to feeling they don't have a chance to win things and wanting to leave.
I'm glad you were brave enough back in the 80's to renew even when we went down. I don't think now we are anything close to how bad we were back then. There's so much about the club that is so much better. It didn't go well last year given recent finishes under MON, but then again MON helped create last years mess. This summer, we have a manager in place you seems determined to do well and prove people wrong. I want to give him every chance to do that, get rid of the garbage, and have players in place, that at least for now want to give everything for our club. That's what I'll be getting behind.
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'Everything changes but Jews'
Brilliant! Thanks for helping me spit my lunch over my desk!!