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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on June 17, 2011, 06:03:45 PM

Title: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 17, 2011, 06:03:45 PM: As I said elsewhere, he's the only player in history to win everything he could win in a season. First one to name them all wins a prize.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: ClarrieBlue on June 17, 2011, 06:06:18 PM: Was one of them X Factor 1899
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: ClarrieBlue on June 17, 2011, 06:16:25 PM: What about Division 1, FA Cup and therefore "The Double" plus England caps. On a topical note he left Villa to join SHA in 1901. I bet H&V was busy just like this week.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: Apyadg on June 17, 2011, 06:20:15 PM: Quote from: ClarrieBlue on June 17, 2011, 06:16:25 PM
What about Division 1, FA Cup and therefore "The Double" plus England caps.

That'll be it, in '97.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on June 17, 2011, 06:20:44 PM: I seen one of his FA Cup medal as my ex neighbour had it.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: ClarrieBlue on June 17, 2011, 06:20:53 PM: Plus the Birmingham Senior Cup ??
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 17, 2011, 06:27:08 PM: League, Cup, Capped against Scotland, Wales and Ireland capped for Football League, won Home International Championship? Maybe throw in a Sheriff of London Charity Shield, a Birmingham Senior Cup, Staffordshire Cup, Worcestershire something or other.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 17, 2011, 06:29:09 PM: Much to my surprise, in the season that we did the double, we didn't win the Birmingham Senior Cup - which was then a big deal - nor did England win the Home International Championship.

I'm therefore rather baffled at "the everything he could win" bit.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: Legion on June 17, 2011, 06:36:38 PM: Was it the 1896-97 season?
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 17, 2011, 07:13:39 PM: Even Mr. Google doesn't seem to know the answer. But whilst trying to cheat I did discover this gem......
Apparently in 1900 in an FA Cup match against Millwall Athletic it was that cold and wet several players suffered mild frostbite. Some players played in overcoats borrowed from the crowd, but our Charlie went one better and played the second half carrying an umbrella.....and he scored a goal while holding the brolly.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: PeterWithe on June 17, 2011, 07:21:21 PM: Wasn't that story disproved, seem to recall reading it in an old H&V although I'm usually wrong.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 17, 2011, 08:12:13 PM: I don't know if it was disproved, but I think it has the air of myth about it.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: not3bad on June 17, 2011, 08:26:28 PM: FA Cup, League Championship, international cap, Birmingham senior cup, player of the year award, 1897?
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 17, 2011, 08:33:16 PM: FA Cup, League Championshiop, England caps v. Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Full house.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: Villa'Zawg on June 17, 2011, 08:34:45 PM: Did Charlie play cricket or another sport?
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 17, 2011, 08:41:12 PM: Quote from: cdvillafan on June 17, 2011, 06:27:08 PM
League, Cup, Capped against Scotland, Wales and Ireland capped for Football League,

Correct. FA Cup, league, the three internationals and played for the Football League against the Scottish League. Sadly, you win.
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: brian green on June 17, 2011, 08:58:00 PM: Won the Birmingham Gazette title The Champ With The Gamp.

(whisper whisper... a gamp is an old name for an umbrella, so named because a Charles Dickens character Mrs Gamp always carried one.)
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 17, 2011, 09:08:17 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on June 17, 2011, 08:41:12 PM
Quote from: cdvillafan on June 17, 2011, 06:27:08 PM
League, Cup, Capped against Scotland, Wales and Ireland capped for Football League,

Correct. FA Cup, league, the three internationals and played for the Football League against the Scottish League. Sadly, you win.

Ah ha ha! A year's free subscription to Heroes and Villains is all mine!
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 17, 2011, 09:42:08 PM: Do you think there were organised protests on Muntz Street by the noses of the day when he moved from us to them ?
Title: Re: The Charlie Athersmith competition
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 17, 2011, 09:45:00 PM: Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 17, 2011, 09:42:08 PM
Do you think there were organised protests on Muntz Street by the noses of the day when he moved from us to them ?

There was no Twatter in those days.

By the time they had all registered their disgust by carrier pigeon he had already retired.