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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: VinnieChase84 on June 15, 2011, 10:41:20 PM
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Let's face it, he's about to be appointed so moving on; who will he sign first?
1) Foster
2) Nzogbia
3) Johnson
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We'll that'd be a start - they are all players i think could do very well for us.
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I would have no problem with any of those in claret and blue.
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Chuck Norris, Nikolai Valuev and Kevin Costner. To surround him at all times.
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I cant see Blues selling anyone to us after this.
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I cant see Blues selling anyone to us after this.
They will quote us a billion pounds per player!
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Yea, I said in another thread that he should make those signings.
Now thinking about it, with lots of good attacking players, why would McLeish make us play negative football?
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Foster
Dann - we need someone to organise the defence, we have a blood and guts type centre half in Collins
Jarvis - just to piss off the fans of another midlands club
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Can't see them selling anyone to us, but I'd take Dann off them.
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Curtis Davies £10m
Stephen Carr £6m
Nikola zigic £12m
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Can't see them selling anyone to us, but I'd take Dann off them.
Why not?
If we offer an amount they just simply can't turn down, they'll sell.
They need the money more than we need one of their players.
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It's bound to happen. So our targets will no doubt be Small Heaths cast offs or low quality players.
I would like to see:
1) N'Zogbia
2) Foster
3) Dann
Who I expect him to sign:
1) Larsson
2) McGregor
3) An overpriced left-back (ala Habib Beye)
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An ironically enough I can see the Russian striker that sent the scum down joining too!
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who in their right mind is going to sign for Villa this summer?
after reading about Eck and all the crap surrounding his "appointment"?
imagine us asking a player/his agent about the possibility of coming to Villa - "no chance" would be the reply
we are a ticking timebomb - a run for eck after his "appointment" a la Houllier and the place will go into meltdown
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Depends how much money he's given I guess, we might not be shopping for bargains necessarily as long as the board are happy with that. I'd imagine he's already asked how much of a transfer budget he's going to get so signings don't get blocked like they did by the Blues board.
A goalkeeper would be a good start, Foster or McGregor could be obvious choices.
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It will be interesting to see who he brings to the club.
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General has said that the new manager will be backed with plenty of money. This fills me with some optimism but also dread because I know that McLeish will be spending this money.
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The three best prospects from Birmingham's academy?
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Chuck Norris, Nikolai Valuev and Kevin Costner. To surround him at all times.
I had to laugh at that Kev. I'd throw in James Bond, Jason Bourne and Kung Fu as part of his detail too.
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Chuck Norris, Nikolai Valuev and Kevin Costner. To surround him at all times.
Really, really want this to be true I love CN and KC. If it takes flooding VP it would be worth it. Or playing back to back whitney houston over the PA... Gosh. Who wouldn't want to be in the moment. If we build it (in 2012) he will come.
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Larsson
N'zogbia
Mcgregor
Downing and Ash to go within a few weeks.
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I'd be happy with McGregor as a cheaper option in goal.
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Can't see them selling anyone to us, but I'd take Dann off them.
I can't see it either especially while Birmingham are pursuing a tapping-up case.
There doesn't seem to be any shortage of interest for their better players so it's not even as if their hand might be forced.
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who in their right mind is going to sign for Villa this summer?
after reading about Eck and all the crap surrounding his "appointment"?
imagine us asking a player/his agent about the possibility of coming to Villa - "no chance" would be the reply
we are a ticking timebomb - a run for eck after his "appointment" a la Houllier and the place will go into meltdown
Money talks.
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3 very big body guards.
If we start the season badly, god almighty will he need them.
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Messi, N'Zogbia, Villa.
Or Ridgewell, Jerome, Konchesky.
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Larsson
Reo Coker
NZogbia
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Enjoy the last 28 minutes of your birthday Ozz. Reo Coker? That would be funny!
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Is Bentley on loan at Blues or still a Spurs player. Just wondering.
Was he injured or did McLeish just not like what he saw.
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well considering we have no right back, got rid of reo-coker and lost a striker, possibly 2 if you count ashley young
Carr, Ferguson and Phillips
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Is Bentley on loan at Blues or still a Spurs player. Just wondering.
Was he injured or did McLeish just not like what he saw.
He was a tit and ended up on the bench a lot. Delivered very little apparently.
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I dread to think.....
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If we end up with AM then I pray to McGrath that he isnt tempted to bring any of that shower of shite with him from down the road apart from Foster, so...
Foster (if Blues will sell to us now)
Crouch (typical AM-esque player and could work well with Bent/Gabby/Albrighton)
N'Zogbia (tried to sign him before)
Milner (just get him back and he will bust his balls for us)
...and AY is as good as gone so we need to keep Downing.
I think he'll try and get the best out of what we've got defensively, but will need to spend on both fullback positions if Walker goes back to Spurs.
Didnt McLeish try and sign Sturridge once upon a time?
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looking at what we NEED, this could be a very expensive summer for Randy!
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Whoever they are they need to be bloody good.
And even then some won't support the players because McLeish signed them.
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See, the B-lose connection vis a vis McLeish isn't the biggest factor in all this. It is a big factor, don't get me wrong.
But I'd have readily accepted Foster and Dann before this latest bout of shenanigans and I still would now. No doubt we'll be portrayed as f*ckle if we aren't marching on the North Stand, demanding they stay away. But the crucial point is they are quite good at their jobs. McLeish isn't. Or at least hasn't been as far as Prem experience is concerned. Which was supposedly one of the main criteria we set when looking at new applicants.
One possible silver lining is when you look back at fairly recent history, even some less than great Villa managers have signed players who have been big assets to us a number of years after; Gregory with Mellberg, O'Leary with Laursen and Bouma and GH with Bent by the looks of things.
If Big Eck signs the likes of Foster, Dann and N'Zogbia but it takes a better manager than he to truly get the best out of them in 6/12 or even 18* months time then so be it.
* A tad ambitious. Can't see him lasting that long. But who knows.
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Milner, N'Zogbia and Foster and Kyle Walker
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Fabrice Muamba to replace Reo Coker.
McGregor as keeper
Bougherra as defender.
Foster, Dann, Johnson, Nzogbia, Milner (any player with ambition will run a mile from Villa now, its hard to blame them either)
SWP, Joe Cole - anyone desperate and going cheap will probably interest him too.
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I don't want to even go there
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I don't want to even go there
I have a feeling thats what a lot of potential signings will be saying after the events of the last few days.
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Foster
N'Zogbia
Pavemenchenko
or
Alien
Paul
Predator
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McGregor, Dann & N'Zogbia
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Muamba, Diame or Mulumbu are all good shouts to replace Reo. If McGregor is available, snap him up. Blues will want too much for Foster now. Larsson on a free should be confirmed quickly, hopefully. Parker and Adam appear to have less suitors daily, worth bidding for both.
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Can't see them selling anyone to us, but I'd take Dann off them.
Exactly
Does anyone in their right mind think that the Lulu's are going to do any business with us?
They would rather keep the players and bankrupt themselves
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It's possible he might run with the targets Houllier had lined up as well as one or tow of his own.
I get the impression a lot of work had gone into lining players up already and part of appointing McLeish was his willingness to carry on the work already started. There may be a few signings ready to go.
Christ knows the club could do with something to take the heat away from the clusterfuck this summer has been thus far.
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Milner
Barry
Barton
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Can't see them selling anyone to us, but I'd take Dann off them.
Exactly
Does anyone in their right mind think that the Lulu's are going to do any business with us?
They would rather keep the players and bankrupt themselves
No they wouldn't. Their moron fans might think that way but Yeung will do business if we're offering cold currency, I assure you. They are dangerously brassic.
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Jesus if he buys Barton he might as well stand in the dugout with a giant target painted on his back.
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can you honestly see RL stumping up 10 million for foster and 15 million for Dann?
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Hutton
McGregor
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You know, when we start talking about possible signings that McLeish is going to make, it make it all seem so real.
And that when it really hits, how shit is appointment really is.
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can you honestly see RL stumping up 10 million for foster and 15 million for Dann?
No. Or anybody else for that matter.
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1. Keep Sid on the coaching staff.
2. Add Laursen in there somewhere also.
3. Make K-Mac his assistant.
He'll need to surround himself with proper Villa men to stand a chance.
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1. Keep Sid on the coaching staff.
2. Add Laursen in there somewhere also.
3. Make K-Mac his assistant.
He'll need to surround himself with proper Villa men to stand a chance.
Not bad shouts John. I'd keep McAllister around too.
Its not like McLeish has an award winning staff to bring over anyway.
Keeping Sid around is non negotiable as far as I'm concerned. If he is ousted I will go down there and make the Brixton riots look like a Teddy Bears picnic. I'm talking throwing my own shit at the big screens and everything.
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I'd like to see Foster (highly unlikely or very overpriced if the scum want to sell to us.), Dann and Nzogbia
Alternate 3 would be McGregor, McGeady, Roman Pav (cant spell his surname but im sure you guys know who im on about)
On another note, do you think AM will know of possible clauses in blues players contracts which would be activated is we make a certain bid? it could work in our advantage?
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Although I don't approve of him becoming our manager, and I'm not a fan of the way he plays, but I think he'll be able to get some good players in.
Let's face it; a majority of players will admire him for the sheer balls he's shown by moving from one team to their most hated rivals - possibly the biggest hatred between two teams in the Premier League.
Although I hate him, his styles, his accent, his hairline, etc., I really, really do admire the guts he has for doing this (providing it all goes through, of course).
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quick question....why does everyone think Milner would come back to Villa? Have i missed something recently? Just asking......
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Hutton
Good call.
Bound to be our next right-back.
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I heard a rumour that Gardner (C) could be making a return.
Now THAT would be interesting.
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Foster
Hutton
Steven Davis
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Why does everyone want Foster? I wouldn't say he's a shit keeper, but he's definitely not a good one. He's about the same level as Rob Green and Scott Carson. Makes three great saves for the cameras, then flaps at a cross like a girl and indirectly contributes to his team conceding. How many of SHA's goals against was he at fault for last season? My guess is a fair few.
I'd rather have Shay Given, even with a dodgy shoulder.
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Hutton is definitely a good option. I'd be happy with him if Walker is a no.
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Why does everyone want Foster? I wouldn't say he's a shit keeper, but he's definitely not a good one. He's about the same level as Rob Green and Scott Carson. Makes three great saves for the cameras, then flaps at a cross like a girl and indirectly contributes to his team conceding. How many of SHA's goals against was he at fault for last season? My guess is a fair few.
I'd rather have Shay Given, even with a dodgy shoulder.
I agree, Foster is nowhere near as good as some people think.
Robinson is the 'keeper we need.
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More i think about it the less likely it appears that we will sign any of their lot. McLeish will have his own targets and I reckon he will work with what we have at the back apart from keeper and a full back. Gardner would be lynched coming back here, plus he is shit. Little Gardner may get some games though.
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AM's first 3 signings should be
1. Ray Wilkins as first team coach
2. a keeper, Shay Given will do nicely
3. Roger Johnson decent commanding centre-half.
UTV
The Doc
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Foster, Gardner & Dann.
£20m.
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Upson - Free
McFadden - Free
Larrson - Free
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Larrson going to Sunderland according to the BBC
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Ferguson will be first, then Foster and then Jerome.
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1. Messi
2. Xavi
3. C Ronaldo
Then he might attain some popularity.
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1. Messi
2. Xavi
3. C Ronaldo
Then he might attain some popularity.
No, he'd then get blamed for not going for Iniesta aswell.
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Yea, I said in another thread that he should make those signings.
Now thinking about it, with lots of good attacking players, why would McLeish make us play negative football?
Primarily because he's fucking shit.
Whoever he's managed, it's looked like how Birmingham played last season.
Take your own entertainment to VP next season.
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I can't get my head around people saying he will sign Jerome. He won't as he's not stupid. We have good forwards and need one addition but there is no way he will sign him.
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Would not be surprised to see Joey Barton as 1 of his first signings, McLeish likes a midfield of battlers
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1. Foster
2. Johnson
3. N'Zogbia
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Diouf,Bellamy and Barton.What better chance would he have of moving up the popularity league than to sign those odious turds?
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Diouf,Bellamy and Barton.What better chance would he have of moving up the popularity league than to sign those odious turds?
If I was Mcleish, Barton and Bellamy are exactly the kind of player I'd be looking to bring in. Both combative and vocal. Neither are the type of character to go missing in a fight, and what Mcleish will need in the opening couple of months of the season is every ally he can find.
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Diouf,Bellamy and Barton.What better chance would he have of moving up the popularity league than to sign those odious turds?
If I was Mcleish, Barton and Bellamy are exactly the kind of player I'd be looking to bring in. Both combative and vocal. Neither are the type of character to go missing in a fight, and what Mcleish will need in the opening couple of months of the season is every ally he can find.
also he would hve no worries about managing their reputations.
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Diouf,Bellamy and Barton.What better chance would he have of moving up the popularity league than to sign those odious turds?
If I was Mcleish, Barton and Bellamy are exactly the kind of player I'd be looking to bring in. Both combative and vocal. Neither are the type of character to go missing in a fight, and what Mcleish will need in the opening couple of months of the season is every ally he can find.
We won't sign Bellamy given our focus on keeping wages down. I would also expect we will see a focus on younder players that have a sell on value.
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Foster, Gardner & Dann.
£20m.
Add Sturridge up front and things are taking shape. I think Sturridge and Bent could make a great strike force.
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1. Keep Sid on the coaching staff.
2. Add Laursen in there somewhere also.
3. Make K-Mac his assistant.
He'll need to surround himself with proper Villa men to stand a chance.
Not bad shouts John. I'd keep McAllister around too.
Its not like McLeish has an award winning staff to bring over anyway.
Keeping Sid around is non negotiable as far as I'm concerned. If he is ousted I will go down there and make the Brixton riots look like a Teddy Bears picnic. I'm talking throwing my own shit at the big screens and everything.
There's no protest like a dirty protest
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Ferguson will be first, then Foster and then Jerome.
Barry Ferguson would disintegrate as soon as a Villa shirt touched his skin
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Would not be surprised to see Joey Barton as 1 of his first signings, McLeish likes a midfield of battlers
Oh I see what you've done, you've used the word battlers instead of the proper term: Sub human scum who have no place in society.
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For me, we need to sort the GK our first. Get in Foster or McGregor. Get rid of Dunne and replace with Dann. We need to get the spine of the team fixed. Now, I'm going to get crushed for suggesting this because this player is world rated wanker, but Joey Barton is very good and would make us nasty. We need to get nastier with the complimentary pieces around Barton being skilled and creative. Roy Keane was a tosser at the best of times (yes, I know, not on the same level as Barton), but we've been too soft for too long.
If not Barton, somebody like him that take no prisoners and who's job is to run around like mental case, win the ball and give to the creative players to do their thing.
Give me a second to reach for my tin hat....
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If we do end up selling Downing as well as AYoung then that *should* make approx £40m available for transfers this summer plus significant reduction of the wage bill with players being released.
Would you be happy to bring in Foster, N'Zogbia, Dann, Sturridge and keep Walker at the expense of AY and SD?
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For me, we need to sort the GK our first. Get in Foster or McGregor. Get rid of Dunne and replace with Dann. We need to get the spine of the team fixed. Now, I'm going to get crushed for suggesting this because this player is world rated wanker, but Joey Barton is very good and would make us nasty. We need to get nastier with the complimentary pieces around Barton being skilled and creative. Roy Keane was a tosser at the best of times (yes, I know, not on the same level as Barton), but we've been too soft for too long.
If not Barton, somebody like him that take no prisoners and who's job is to run around like mental case, win the ball and give to the creative players to do their thing.
Give me a second to reach for my tin hat....
I agree with this bit.
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For me, we need to sort the GK our first. Get in Foster or McGregor. Get rid of Dunne and replace with Dann. We need to get the spine of the team fixed. Now, I'm going to get crushed for suggesting this because this player is world rated wanker, but Joey Barton is very good and would make us nasty. We need to get nastier with the complimentary pieces around Barton being skilled and creative. Roy Keane was a tosser at the best of times (yes, I know, not on the same level as Barton), but we've been too soft for too long.
If not Barton, somebody like him that take no prisoners and who's job is to run around like mental case, win the ball and give to the creative players to do their thing.
Give me a second to reach for my tin hat....
I agree with this bit.
I know....I know. He's a very good player. Shame he's such an idiot, though he has been a lot better of late. Still leopards, spots and all that..
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1. Keep Sid on the coaching staff.
2. Add Laursen in there somewhere also.
3. Make K-Mac his assistant.
He'll need to surround himself with proper Villa men to stand a chance.
Not bad shouts John. I'd keep McAllister around too.
Its not like McLeish has an award winning staff to bring over anyway.
Keeping Sid around is non negotiable as far as I'm concerned. If he is ousted I will go down there and make the Brixton riots look like a Teddy Bears picnic. I'm talking throwing my own shit at the big screens and everything.
There's no protest like a dirty protest
Agree that it would be nice to at least have a Villa presence in the back room staff. If only to stop that Peter Grant coming across the city. Seems to have a dreadful record wherever he's been. The noses looked a better side when his predecessor Roy Aitken was there.
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If we do end up selling Downing as well as AYoung then that *should* make approx £40m available for transfers this summer plus significant reduction of the wage bill with players being released.
Would you be happy to bring in Foster, N'Zogbia, Dann, Sturridge and keep Walker at the expense of AY and SD?
I'd be happy with that lot, but with another winger and a first-choice left back thrown in as well.
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If we do end up selling Downing as well as AYoung then that *should* make approx £40m available for transfers this summer plus significant reduction of the wage bill with players being released.
Would you be happy to bring in Foster, N'Zogbia, Dann, Sturridge and keep Walker at the expense of AY and SD?
Foster - Maybe, decent, but not as good as advertised.
N'Zogbia - Yes. Lots of ability, worth the gamble although I'm slightly worried about him going missing in games.
Dann - Yes, very good defender, praise that should go to him invariably goes to Roger Johnson.
Sturridge - No, not sure he'd compliment Bent too well. think we'd need more of Pavlychenko type player.
Walker - YES, quality right back on an upward curve. Not gonna happen though as Spurs will most definitely have realised this.
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Agree that it would be nice to at least have a Villa presence in the bathroom staff. If only to stop that Peter Grant coming across the city. Seems to have a dreadful record wherever he's been. The noses looked a better side when his predecessor Roy Aitken was there.
I want Sid to stay as much as the next man, but making him a toilet attendant seems a bit much.
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I doubt we'll be playing 2 wingers under AM, but can imagine we'll bring in a few freebies...Matthew Upson surely would be a target for AM to "strengthen" the central defender options. Other questions to be asked would can he get the best out of Warnock and Ireland as that would save a few quid, and if not, how much can we get for them so we can bring in replacements.
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Marcus Bent
Junior Bent
Jason Bent
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For me, we need to sort the GK our first. Get in Foster or McGregor. Get rid of Dunne and replace with Dann. We need to get the spine of the team fixed. Now, I'm going to get crushed for suggesting this because this player is world rated wanker, but Joey Barton is very good and would make us nasty. We need to get nastier with the complimentary pieces around Barton being skilled and creative. Roy Keane was a tosser at the best of times (yes, I know, not on the same level as Barton), but we've been too soft for too long.
If not Barton, somebody like him that take no prisoners and who's job is to run around like mental case, win the ball and give to the creative players to do their thing.
Give me a second to reach for my tin hat....
I agree with this bit.
I know....I know. He's a very good player. Shame he's such an idiot, though he has been a lot better of late. Still leopards, spots and all that..
I agree talent wise he's a more than decent player. I just wouldn't be comfortable supporting him.
I know it's old fashioned to have morals in football these days, but I'd like to think that Aston Villa Football Club still has some left.
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If we do end up selling Downing as well as AYoung then that *should* make approx £40m available for transfers this summer plus significant reduction of the wage bill with players being released.
Would you be happy to bring in Foster, N'Zogbia, Dann, Sturridge and keep Walker at the expense of AY and SD?
Foster - Maybe, decent, but not as good as advertised.
N'Zogbia - Yes. Lots of ability, worth the gamble although I'm slightly worried about him going missing in games.
Dann - Yes, very good defender, praise that should go to him invariably goes to Roger Johnson.
Sturridge - No, not sure he'd compliment Bent too well. think we'd need more of Pavlychenko type player.
Walker - YES, quality right back on an upward curve. Not gonna happen though as Spurs will most definitely have realised this.
Agree Foster isnt as good as made out to be but not many options for goalkeepers at the moment; Sturridge would be a great signing if we didnt have Bent and would be lethal strike pair if it happened, but also agree AM would more likely go for someone like Crouch.
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God knows what would happen if McLeish unpopular as he is signs Barton.
I think the internet would explode with all the Facebook group start ups and people writing posts about not renewing for the first time in 23 years because of it.
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God knows what would happen if McLeish unpopular as he is signs Barton.
I think the internet would explode with all the Facebook group start ups and people writing posts about not renewing for the first time in 23 years because of it.
I'll take back my suggestion. I don't think I could handle another internet uprising coupled with all of the fainting drama queens.
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Im sorry but wghat on earth would make Sturridge want to leave Chelsea and come to us? Read the same for Nzogbia
I would be amazed if Redface sells Walker
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Im sorry but wghat on earth would make Sturridge want to leave Chelsea and come to us? Read the same for Nzogbia
I would be amazed if Redface sells Walker
opportunity to play games like he did with Bolton. Although if the new manager thinks he can contribute then he'll want to stay there. I just don't he's a big enough name for Chelsea. He's not even a full international, so as good as he is, he'll have a hard time getting into their first team on a regular basis.
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Drogba and Anelka probably have a season left in them, I can see Sturridge being loaned out and then slowly integrated into the side.
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Are you seriously asking why N'Zogbia would leave Wigan to come to Villa?
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Are you seriously asking why N'Zogbia would leave Wigan to come to Villa?
Same as we asked about their manager as well.
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Foster, Dann and N'Zogbia. Enrique, Bradley, Sturridge and Westwood too would be nicee.
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I reckon with the way Chelsea work it won't be a surprise if we see Sturridge leave them this summer. However, if they are only willing to let him go on loan then I reckon they will be very happy to do a deal with us on that. Any better than us and it will be a rival who is unlikely to want him anyway so we would be the best club for him to go to.
N'Zogbia would crawl on his hands and knees to join us. As bad as I think his attitude is he will know he will have a much better chance of attracting a much bigger club with us than Wigan. It worked for Milner and probably Downing and Young too.
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Agree that it would be nice to at least have a Villa presence in the bathroom staff. If only to stop that Peter Grant coming across the city. Seems to have a dreadful record wherever he's been. The noses looked a better side when his predecessor Roy Aitken was there.
I want Sid to stay as much as the next man, but making him a toilet attendant seems a bit much.
Goddamn fucking predictive text......
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I heard a rumour that Gardner (C) could be making a return.
Now THAT would be interesting.
see , we are turning into Blose already..
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Are you seriously asking why N'Zogbia would leave Wigan to come to Villa?
Same as we asked about their manager as well.
Depends what our transfer budget is.
I can't imagine it being too high.
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Ben Foster, Scott Dann and Charles N'Zogbia please. Lots of ins and out over the summer, I just hope that Randy backs him as the Villa squad looks a bit on the light side to me and I don't think many of the kids, other than Clark and Bannan will make it. We desperately need a keeper, left back, centre back, winger and central midfielder. The presure is on Randy now to justify the appointment. Spend, spend, spend.
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Now I've got the Plan. Make McLeish Manager to facilitate the signing of Foster and Dann (unfortunately sound like a comedy duo or a pair of Irish singers) then sack him for some good reason written into his contract before the season actually starts and bring in a proper manager.
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Id like Nzogbia , Gervinho and Dann . probably be Ridgewell , Fahey and Hieb .
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Are you seriously asking why N'Zogbia would leave Wigan to come to Villa?
Same as we asked about their manager as well.
Depends what our transfer budget is.
I can't imagine it being too high.
I can't imagine it not being.
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To be fair to him, McLeish made some decent signings at Blues - Foster, Dann, Johnson, Hart on a season's loan, Ferguson. Came close to signing N'Zogbia, obviously went in with a serious £10m bid for Pavlychenko; Bentley and Hleb on loan last season - at the time many of us would have welcomed those two. So he may well have a decent shortlist in mind.
Against that, it's almost certainly back to the MON era of going mostly British only, so I can't see the team moving on from being fairly one-dimensional in approach and style.
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Foster
Johnson or Dann
Pavlychenko or Zamora
I reckon he might still have the hump with N'Zogbia though.
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I think defensively it will be mainly british. Going forward I think he will look much further than MON ever did.
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Barry Ferguson is the very antithesis of everything I believe in as far a football is concerned, his behaviour when representing his country was appalling and I don't want to see someone like that in a Villa shirt.
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The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion we don't have a hope in hell of signing any of Blose's decent players (Dann, Johnson, Foster).
They'll be other clubs in for them without a doubt. After all the bad blood, why would Blose do anything to help us out?
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I would imagine that we would have a very good chance of signing N'Zogbia from Wigan, purely because the way that Whelan said we conducted ourselves with the Martinez approach. It's easier to do business with people you respect and can work well with.
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Are you seriously asking why N'Zogbia would leave Wigan to come to Villa?
Same as we asked about their manager as well.
Depends what our transfer budget is.
I can't imagine it being too high.
I can't imagine it not being.
If it isn't high then we will really know where we stand regarding Randy's ambitions.
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The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion we don't have a hope in hell of signing any of Blose's decent players (Dann, Johnson, Foster).
They'll be other clubs in for them without a doubt. After all the bad blood, why would Blose do anything to help us out?
Well get the same way regardless of whether McLeish is manager. Offer the most money.
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Ben Foster, Scott Dann and Charles N'Zogbia please. Lots of ins and out over the summer, I just hope that Randy backs him as the Villa squad looks a bit on the light side to me and I don't think many of the kids, other than Clark and Bannan will make it. We desperately need a keeper, left back, centre back, winger and central midfielder. The presure is on Randy now to justify the appointment. Spend, spend, spend.
I agree with this word for word apart from changing Bannan to Albrighton.
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The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion we don't have a hope in hell of signing any of Blose's decent players (Dann, Johnson, Foster).
They'll be other clubs in for them without a doubt. After all the bad blood, why would Blose do anything to help us out?
Well get the same way regardless of whether McLeish is manager. Offer the most money.
Surely paying over the odds for these players wouldn't fall in line with the (supposed) new belt tightening policy.
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The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion we don't have a hope in hell of signing any of Blose's decent players (Dann, Johnson, Foster).
They'll be other clubs in for them without a doubt. After all the bad blood, why would Blose do anything to help us out?
Well get the same way regardless of whether McLeish is manager. Offer the most money.
Surely paying over the odds for these players wouldn't fall in line with the (supposed) new belt tightening policy.
I doubt we'll get them by bidding less than other clubs bid, do you?
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Can guarantee it wont be any of the Blose players. Not a hope in hell
of doing any business with them after this, regardless of how much we offer.
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The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion we don't have a hope in hell of signing any of Blose's decent players (Dann, Johnson, Foster).
They'll be other clubs in for them without a doubt. After all the bad blood, why would Blose do anything to help us out?
Well get the same way regardless of whether McLeish is manager. Offer the most money.
Surely paying over the odds for these players wouldn't fall in line with the (supposed) new belt tightening policy.
I doubt we'll get them by bidding less than other clubs bid, do you?
Actually part of my point as to why we won't be able to sign them.
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If we offer them £10 million for Dann knowing that other clubs would offer the same amount but if no other clubs come in for him, it would take some serious balls to turn down the offer.
They need the money more than we need one of their players.
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can you honestly see RL stumping up 10 million for foster and 15 million for Dann?
No one will pay that as they need the money, if they do they are mental!!
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If he's got any sense he'll keep away from blose players and look elsewhere. Just going to add to ill-feeling especially if they're stuck in a team doing badly.
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If he's got any sense he'll keep away from blose players and look elsewhere. Just going to add to ill-feeling especially if they're stuck in a team doing badly.
so we shouldn't try and sign very good players like Dann or Foster, because of who they play for? Anybody who thinks like that is a fool.
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If we sign foster say, and we get hammered 4-1, it will be "bluenose c*nt" letting in goals. Like it or not he'll be blamed as one of Mcliesh's signings and lumped in with him.. In fact if he brought 2 or 3 over, it would be a month before they'd be bullshit about the ex-blose players not getting on with the existing team. Come on now you must see that, people like Hendrie got dogs abuse just for being implied blose support. I think Foster is a decent 'keeper but if Mcliesh joins its not on IMO
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Redknapp took Crouch, Defoe and Krancjar from Portsmouth to Spurs.
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Redknapp took Crouch, Defoe and Krancjar from Portsmouth to Spurs.
yeah and if Mcliesh had come from portsmouth or any other team i'd say nicking your old teams best player is a good idea. The problem is we've probably got a deeply unpopular choice of manager, compounding that is where he comes from. If you think we'll be chasing the top 4 then i daresay some of their players could do a job, but otherwise we could have 2 or 3 isolated players who the fans get on the back off at every opportunity. At least if he buys from elsewhere, if they're not instant sucesses they'd get a fairer chance.
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Redknapp took Crouch, Defoe and Krancjar from Portsmouth to Spurs.
Ridgewell, Gardner ? both had dodgey momments but no real backlash .....
yeah and if Mcliesh had come from portsmouth or any other team i'd say nicking your old teams best player is a good idea. The problem is we've probably got a deeply unpopular choice of manager, compounding that is where he comes from. If you think we'll be chasing the top 4 then i daresay some of their players could do a job, but otherwise we could have 2 or 3 isolated players who the fans get on the back off at every opportunity. At least if he buys from elsewhere, if they're not instant sucesses they'd get a fairer chance.
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Redknapp shat on Porsmouth from a great height though.
He won them the FA Cup, got them playing in Europe and then fucks off to Spurs who were bottom of the table taking 2 points from 8 games.
Portsmouth aren't rivals of Tottenham but i'm sure there fans went barmy and have hated Redknapp ever since, but the Pompey board put there personal differences aside and when Spurs came calling for their players, they approached it in a professional buisness manner selling their players, regardless of who they were selling too.
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Redknapp shat on Porsmouth from a great height though.
He won them the FA Cup, got them playing in Europe and then fucks off to Spurs who were bottom of the table taking 2 points from 8 games.
Portsmouth aren't rivals of Tottenham but i'm sure there fans went barmy and have hated Redknapp ever since, but the Pompey board put there personal differences aside and when Spurs came calling for their players, they approached it in a professional buisness manner selling their players, regardless of who they were selling too.
thats not the problem is it though? How blose handle us buying their players - who cares? the problem is how they're be recieved here if things don't go well
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Redknapp took Crouch, Defoe and Krancjar from Portsmouth to Spurs.
Ridgewell, Gardner ? both had dodgey momments but no real backlash .....
yeah and if Mcliesh had come from portsmouth or any other team i'd say nicking your old teams best player is a good idea. The problem is we've probably got a deeply unpopular choice of manager, compounding that is where he comes from. If you think we'll be chasing the top 4 then i daresay some of their players could do a job, but otherwise we could have 2 or 3 isolated players who the fans get on the back off at every opportunity. At least if he buys from elsewhere, if they're not instant sucesses they'd get a fairer chance.
Ridgewell and gardner weren't signed by MON after he walked out on us to replace a vastly more successful blose manager
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Given, Kyle Walker and Taarabt please.
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I certainly won't have a problem if we take Dann, Johnson or Foster off them. They're good players regardless of who they played for. There won't be no backlash, most fans I've spoked too would like us to sign atleast one of the 3 players I mentioned.
We're taking away there prized posession, the noses will feel bitter about that, on the otherhand we give away our bench warmers to small heath so they're more likely to abuse Agents Ridgewell and Davies because they know they're ex-Villa's cast offs.
Anyone who would abuse someone like Foster, Dann or Johnson just because they used to play for small heath needs to be locked in a padded cell.
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well we'll see, but my guess is the team is doing badly next season and we have 1 or 2 blose players in the team, unless they're pulling up trees for us they will attract the ire of the support more so than the rest because a)they're ex-blose and b)an ex'blose manager bought them.
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If we were signing the likes of Larsson or Jerome I can agree, we'll have a few who'll turn on them but I honestly can't see people taking their anger out on Foster/Dann/Johnson.
Have we ever turned on Petrov or Cuellar calling them Old Firm scumbags etc...?
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If we were signing the likes of Larsson or Jerome I can agree, we'll have a few who'll turn on them but I honestly can't see people taking their anger out on Foster/Dann/Johnson.
Have we ever turned on Petrov or Cuellar calling them Old Firm scumbags etc...?
eh?
No because they weren't from blose bought by an ex-blose manager. thats what will matter. Petrov was pants for a season. Do you really think foster would get that breathing space?
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The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion we don't have a hope in hell of signing any of Blose's decent players (Dann, Johnson, Foster).
They'll be other clubs in for them without a doubt. After all the bad blood, why would Blose do anything to help us out?
Well get the same way regardless of whether McLeish is manager. Offer the most money.
Surely paying over the odds for these players wouldn't fall in line with the (supposed) new belt tightening policy.
I doubt we'll get them by bidding less than other clubs bid, do you?
Actually part of my point as to why we won't be able to sign them.
I'm guessing the whole point is that because we signed a crap/cheap/uninspiring/safe* manager it's proof we can't afford their better players, rather than they won't sell to us because we just took their manager?
It was the bad blood/doing us a favour that I was commenting on as I don't think they'd do us a favour and sell cheap whoever our crap/cheap etc manage was. But I believe they would sell to us regardless of manager if we matched the top offer and the player said he wanted to come to us.
*delete as applicable
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The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion we don't have a hope in hell of signing any of Blose's decent players (Dann, Johnson, Foster).
They'll be other clubs in for them without a doubt. After all the bad blood, why would Blose do anything to help us out?
Well get the same way regardless of whether McLeish is manager. Offer the most money.
Surely paying over the odds for these players wouldn't fall in line with the (supposed) new belt tightening policy.
I doubt we'll get them by bidding less than other clubs bid, do you?
Actually part of my point as to why we won't be able to sign them.
I'm guessing the whole point is that because we signed a crap/cheap/uninspiring/safe* manager it's proof we can't afford their better players, rather than they won't sell to us because we just took their manager?
It was the bad blood/doing us a favour that I was commenting on as I don't think they'd do us a favour and sell cheap whoever our crap/cheap etc manage was. But I believe they would sell to us regardless of manager if we matched the top offer and the player said he wanted to come to us.
*delete as applicable
In fairness I probably meant a bit of both.
on the second point, if Us and Arsenal were to say both bid 10 million for Dann, I genuinely believe that Blues are spiteful enough that they would accept the Aresnal bid and reject ours.
I agree that if we bid more than others they would sell to us (can't see that being the case though), but to sell to us when others are offering the same wouldn't particually ingratiate their board to the knuckledragging fans.
I guess it depends which player we go after whether they'll want to join only us. I can't see that being Dann or Johnson as I can see a no of good clubs in for them.
Maybe Foster.
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You are probably right on that, but to be honest, if Dann had a choice between Arsenal and us and he chose us, i'd wonder what he was smoking.
If however it was us and Wigan offering the money, and he said to small heath that he would like to sign for us but had zero interest in Wigan, I think they'd probably sell to us.
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You are probably right on that, but to be honest, if Dann had a choice between Arsenal and us and he chose us, i'd wonder what he was smoking.
If however it was us and Wigan offering the money, and he said to small heath that he would like to sign for us but had zero interest in Wigan, I think they'd probably sell to us.
Fair point well made.
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Reports of an offer of ten mil for foster, i would have rather kept the keeper we had and spent the money elsewhere.
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We've taken their manager that got them relegated, quit via email, compensated them and their fans are largely glad to see the back of him...why wouldnt they want to take even more money from us to help balance their books? There was no issues when they signed our rejects so no reason why there should be an issue offloading their "better" players to us if we wanted them.
Part of our problem last season was retaining ball possession in front of the back 4 creating more pressure on the defence so I think he should be looking to improve the midfield and working with what he's got in defence other than the fullback positions, and I despise Johnson so hope he never gets the privilege of putting on a Villa shirt.
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What has Johnson done for you to despise him?
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Mainly the bitter post match comments he makes (particularly after playing us), what I would consider to be dirty style of play, constantly moaning at the refs, and the fact that he's a "bit shit".
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Think there is better players available than Foster and Johnson. Foster is hugely overrated and Johnson is a bit too last ditch for my liking. Dann would be good, Bham went to pieces after he got injured. We already have 4 centre halves on the books though so need to know what we will do with them first.
Barry Ferguson is a better version of Petrov. He might be interested in him. Gardner will earn himself a move to some EPL club, wont be us though. Larsson is a bit meh. All in all, I think we should stay clear of the lot of them.
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A keeper: foster, mcgregor, Robinson
Centre back: dann, bougherra, bassong
An all action midfider: NRC, Barton or Gardner
I reckon we'll do business there quite quickly.
Then it'll be onto the more tricky business of finding replacements for young and probably downing. I suspect we won't see 433 which I think is a shame, so it may be:
- 1 winger: n'zogbia, swp, Adam Johnson
- 1 fwd: would love sturridge, but more likely to be someone a bit meh like bentdner, crouch, ba, Zamora.
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I really can't see how pavlyuchenko and bent can play in the sane side. They're both out and out goalscorers who don't do much but score and show some good movement here and there.
Sturridge would be a much better fit. Gabby can't play with bent in my view.
Really hoping we move away from the lumbering number 9 model.
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Bendtner is off to Germany isn't?
If rumours are true that Foster and Dann are on the way then I would leave it at that. Larsson is meant to be off to Sunderland isn't he?
Midfield wise it is really tough. I hoped we would find a couple of young ish French Vieira types to be quite physical AND play a bit.
Winger wise N'Zogbia is a good player, and we are being linked with some Dutch fella - Verhoek?
Thing is say Randy give him 15 million plus sales. That is 50 -55 million ish. Possibles could be....
Dann/ Foster - 18m
N'Zogbia - 12m
Hutton - 4m
Adam - 10m
Figuroa/Clyne/ Naughton - 4m
Reo Coker - free
A.N Other winger/ striker 7-8m
Westwood - free
Looking at what is about and the amount we have to do in the market, for me I would be inclined to work with what I had at the back and sign Westwood on a free and Given as the experience man for 2-3 million. Saving a huge amount on the Foster and Dann deals. Collins, Cuellar Clark and Dunne are all decent players and McLeish might be able to work better with them than the previous incumbent. I would focus on 2 full backs, 2 wingers, a top centre mid and a decent centre forward.
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Konchesky, Foster and Hitzlsperger
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Anyone got the feeling he might try and bring in Barry Ferguson from SHA?
I don't rate Pavlychenko at all, indeed if we're just playing 1 up front under him, Bent, Gabby and Fonz as our options will probably be enough.
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I think Roman, Ben Foster and N'Zogbia will be first three signing.
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Anyone got the feeling he might try and bring in Barry Ferguson from SHA?
I don't rate Pavlychenko at all, indeed if we're just playing 1 up front under him, Bent, Gabby and Fonz as our options will probably be enough.
I don't think he will. We already have good midfielders here, both established and up and coming. He needs to sign Walker or another good RB, a rock CB, a top goalkeeper and a replacement for Ash before even thinking about any other area of the pitch.
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Has Bradley actually been signed then?
At the moment our central midfield options are:
Petrov (won't be a regular)
Bannan (still young)
Delph (good but needs to stay fit)
Makoun (hope he'll come good)
then we're down to playing Clark or Hogg there.
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Has Bradley actually been signed then?
At the moment our central midfield options are:
Petrov (won't be a regular)
Bannan (still young)
Delph (good but needs to stay fit)
Makoun (hope he'll come good)
then we're down to playing Clark or Hogg there.
Exactly, and even with Bradley...is that a top 6 midfield?
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Would be happy with
Foster
Dann
N'Zogbia
Gutted we didn't get Kevin Nolan. At 28, he's a bargin at £1.5m!
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Paul Robinson
Jose Enrique
Daniel Sturridge please
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Has Bradley actually been signed then?
At the moment our central midfield options are:
Petrov (won't be a regular)
Bannan (still young)
Delph (good but needs to stay fit)
Makoun (hope he'll come good)
then we're down to playing Clark or Hogg there.
Not yet, but I think they will. They will need to strengthen in that position but I can't see it being Ferguson at all. I think he'll target the real areas of concern first before adding to that area.
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Foster, Dann and N'Zogbia all to be in before the month is out.
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Foster, Dann and N'Zogbia all to be in before the month is out.
That would be an excellent start. Obviously that wouldn't leave us any stronger than last season, with Young and Friedel on the way out. A few more after that would be nice.
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As long as he doesnt want to bring Curtis Davies back.
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I think we should be looking at Foster to replace Friedel, Dann to strenghthen the defence, N'Zogbia or an other to replace Ash. We also need a left back and a creative midfielder (Parker maybe) unles Ireland can be coaxed back towards a semblance of mental health. I watched Sturridge for the under 21s against Ukraine and he looks some player, head and shoulders above the rest of them. Would love him to come to Villa.
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I'm worried about the midfield. We have Delph and Bannan who have potential but are unproven,same goes for Makoun. Petrov is a squad player,don't think Hogg will be good enough,god knows about Ireland.
I think we need two to go straight into the team.
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N'Zogbia, Foster and Roger Johnson would be good (Matt Jarvis if N'Zogbia is a no go). I think AM does like to get his transfer business done early to allow players the proper time to settle in to their new surroundings - unlike MON who pissed around until the 31st August! That used to annoy me big-time!
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This has to be Delph's season.£8m quid was a lot of money for him. Staying injury free is massive but he has got to nail down a first team spot this season I reckon.
Cant see McLeish being a fan of Bannan, Ireland, Fonz or Makoun.
Gabby might be our Cameron Jerome next season. Massive season for Gabby aswell. Cant see him being any use partnering Bent unfortunately.
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N'Zogbia, Foster and Roger Johnson would be good (Matt Jarvis if N'Zogbia is a no go). I think AM does like to get his transfer business done early to allow players the proper time to settle in to their new surroundings - unlike MON who pissed around until the 31st August! That used to annoy me big-time!
Yeah Agreed he seems to know who he wants and just sort it untill he didnt get the backing from the board, all the suggestions i like maybe Sebastian Larsson an ouside chance on a free
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With respect why on earth would Sturridge want to come to us????
Do you think that no-one in the top 8 will be in for Nzogbia?
Scott Dann will cost us 15 million and do you honestly think Blues are going to do any business with us????
We struggled to attract top players when MON and GH were in charge and with AM in charge there is even less of a chance
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With respect why on earth would Sturridge want to come to us????
Do you think that no-one in the top 8 will be in for Nzogbia?
Scott Dann will cost us 15 million and do you honestly think Blues are going to do any business with us????
We struggled to attract top players when MON and GH were in charge and with AM in charge there is even less of a chance
Bloody hell, you need to think some happy thoughts.
1) Sturridge wants to play football. He's from Birmingham. He went to Bolton last season, so why not us?
2) We finished 9th is what was a very bad season for us. Had we defended better, especially with the numerous late goals we conceded we would have finished top 8.
3) Off course they'll do business with us. Their former manager is at our club, he's not going to be 15 million. They are not going to refuse to sell to us if we make the best offer.
4) Did we even go for that many top names? Aside from Bent who was genuinely a top name we tried to sign in the last 5 years? McLeish somehow conned Hleb to join that lot and he was playing for Barcelona. A season or so before he was tearing us a new one at VP playing for Arsenal. Are we not more attractive than the noses?
Why do some fans continually downgrade us? We've had one poor season, but we are still a PL football club.
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Not sure if anyones suggested this already but how about an all scottish based (sort of) trio of ;
McGregor -£5mish
Hutton - £5mish
Izaguirre - £5mish
Defence sorted and all for the price of A.Young which aint bad is it?
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With respect why on earth would Sturridge want to come to us????
Do you think that no-one in the top 8 will be in for Nzogbia?
Scott Dann will cost us 15 million and do you honestly think Blues are going to do any business with us????
We struggled to attract top players when MON and GH were in charge and with AM in charge there is even less of a chance
Bloody hell, you need to think some happy thoughts.
1) Sturridge wants to play football. He's from Birmingham. He went to Bolton last season, so why not us?
2) We finished 9th is what was a very bad season for us. Had we defended better, especially with the numerous late goals we conceded we would have finished top 8.
3) Off course they'll do business with us. Their former manager is at our club, he's not going to be 15 million. They are not going to refuse to sell to us if we make the best offer.
4) Did we even go for that many top names? Aside from Bent who was genuinely a top name we tried to sign in the last 5 years? McLeish somehow conned Hleb to join that lot and he was playing for Barcelona. A season or so before he was tearing us a new one at VP playing for Arsenal. Are we not more attractive than the noses?
Why do some fans continually downgrade us? We've had one poor season, but we are still a PL football club.
A second tier PL club
You need to be watching the maple leafs and instead of talking rubbish.
Sturridge - NO CHANCE
Nzogbia - NO CHANCE
Any decent Blues player - More chance of getting Bret the Hitman Hart
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Mcsporran, Mckenzie and Munro (followed by Milne, Ritchie and Mcleod)
Get these stuck on betfair now - ITK ;)
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Blose will do business with us, they've done it before and will do again. Business is business and if they want to play for their former manager, no doubt they will. Not really unusual for that to happen is it.
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With respect why on earth would Sturridge want to come to us????
Do you think that no-one in the top 8 will be in for Nzogbia?
Scott Dann will cost us 15 million and do you honestly think Blues are going to do any business with us????
We struggled to attract top players when MON and GH were in charge and with AM in charge there is even less of a chance
Bloody hell, you need to think some happy thoughts.
1) Sturridge wants to play football. He's from Birmingham. He went to Bolton last season, so why not us?
2) We finished 9th is what was a very bad season for us. Had we defended better, especially with the numerous late goals we conceded we would have finished top 8.
3) Off course they'll do business with us. Their former manager is at our club, he's not going to be 15 million. They are not going to refuse to sell to us if we make the best offer.
4) Did we even go for that many top names? Aside from Bent who was genuinely a top name we tried to sign in the last 5 years? McLeish somehow conned Hleb to join that lot and he was playing for Barcelona. A season or so before he was tearing us a new one at VP playing for Arsenal. Are we not more attractive than the noses?
Why do some fans continually downgrade us? We've had one poor season, but we are still a PL football club.
A second tier PL club
You need to be watching the maple leafs and instead of talking rubbish.
Sturridge - NO CHANCE
Nzogbia - NO CHANCE
Any decent Blues player - More chance of getting Bret the Hitman Hart
It's that the best response you have? The Maple Leafs?? So a player like N'Zogbia who chose to go to Wigan wouldn't consider us? Scott Dann and Ben Foster are not good players? Who's talking rubbish exactly? Don't go near sharp objects is my advice to you.
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I wonder if Randy will allow us a big name signing as a sweetener before the season starts
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Sturridge went to Bolton, yes, but on loan.
There's a big difference.
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We may be second tier to the top5-6 sides, but Bent came when we were down the bottom - we are a big draw still and players will come.
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Sturridge went to Bolton, yes, but on loan.
There's a big difference.
If Sturridge thinks he can't get a game at Chelsea because they are likely to buy for that position, then just like Scott Parker did eventually, he'll look elsewhere. Parker ended up at West Ham, so there's no reason to completely discount Sturridge choosing a club like us. Obviously if Liverpool, Spurs etc actually come in for him, he likely isn't coming to us, but let's nort discount the notion out of hand.
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Who out of the top five or six is going to want Sturridge?
Man United - Rooney, Hernandes, Berbatov and Owen
Arsenal - Maybe but buying him is not their style.
Man City - Not enough of a finished article for them. Burned his bridges when he left.
Liverpool - Suarez, Carroll and Kuyt
Tottenham - Maybe but they have a few strikers already and seem to want to cut costs.
Everton - No money.
On top of that Chelsea probably see us as less of a rival than the others. They won't sell to United, Arsenal or Liverpool. The reasons he won't sigh for us are either based on Chelsea being keen to keep him or because we might not want him or we don't have the money. Maybe we could take him on loan?
And N'Zogbia? The only clubs who seem to be interested are Newcastle and Sunderland. He really is not as good as some on here make out.
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Dann, Barton, N'Zogbia
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Who out of the top five or six is going to want Sturridge?
Man United - Rooney, Hernandes, Berbatov and Owen
Arsenal - Maybe but buying him is not their style.
Man City - Not enough of a finished article for them. Burned his bridges when he left.
Liverpool - Suarez, Carroll and Kuyt
Tottenham - Maybe but they have a few strikers already and seem to want to cut costs.
Everton - No money.
On top of that Chelsea probably see us as less of a rival than the others. They won't sell to United, Arsenal or Liverpool. The reasons he won't sigh for us are either based on Chelsea being keen to keep him or because we might not want him or we don't have the money. Maybe we could take him on loan?
And N'Zogbia? The only clubs who seem to be interested are Newcastle and Sunderland. He really is not as good as some on here make out.
If I was the candle wax bloke, I'd be expecting to lose Modric to Chelsea, I'd be asking for at least thirty mill, plus young Sturridge. I can see him doing a good job anywhere he goes. Would be brilliant next to Darren Bent.
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I can't see Blues wanting to do much business with us now so would take silly money to get Dann or Foster, so I would look else where.
Cahill,Given and Pavlyuchenko.
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I think Roman, Ben Foster and N'Zogbia will be first three signing.
Id go with this
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Danny Simpson, Charlie Adam and Ben Foste rwill be the first three
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I can't see Blues wanting to do much business with us now so would take silly money to get Dann or Foster, so I would look else where.
Cahill,Given and Pavlyuchenko.
Blues will have no choice other than to do business on two counts - £40m financial 'black-hole' & (unfortunately for our beloved game) player power.
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I can't see Blues wanting to do much business with us now so would take silly money to get Dann or Foster, so I would look else where.
Cahill,Given and Pavlyuchenko.
Blues will have no choice other than to do business on two counts - £40m financial 'black-hole' & (unfortunately for our beloved game) player power.
Wouldn't want any of their shite other that Foster btw.
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McLeish's first signing needs to be a major one, maybe even the new team captain given Young is on his way. Charlie Adam would fit the bill.
Next, a new keeper is a priority. Ben Foster would be good if Blues are prepared to do business with him, otherwise Craig Gordon might be worth a punt.
Third, a full back. Either Walker or Hutton would be good signings.
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Next, a new keeper is a priority. Ben Foster would be good if Blues are prepared to do business with him, otherwise Craig Gordon might be worth a punt.
Foster is hugely overrated. People only think he's any good because he's one of a minute number of even vaguely competent English keeprs. If he was Hungarian or something, he'd be playing in the Champo.
Quite why anyone would prefer Foster over Given is a mystery to me.
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Next, a new keeper is a priority. Ben Foster would be good if Blues are prepared to do business with him, otherwise Craig Gordon might be worth a punt.
Foster is hugely overrated. People only think he's any good because he's one of a minute number of even vaguely competent English keeprs. If he was Hungarian or something, he'd be playing in the Champo.
Quite why anyone would prefer Foster over Given is a mystery to me.
Funny really as I think Given is a touch overrated. There's not a lot to choose between the two as far as I'm concerned.
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I can't see Blues wanting to do much business with us now so would take silly money to get Dann or Foster, so I would look else where.
Cahill,Given and Pavlyuchenko.
Blues will have no choice other than to do business on two counts - £40m financial 'black-hole' & (unfortunately for our beloved game) player power.
They're businessmen. They'll sell if it's worth their while. I also think the ladies doth protest too much as far as the Blues are concerned. I think they're quite happy for Eck to come to us, especially for a couple of million quid. This indignation is just an act to keep the great unwashed sweet.
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Foster > McGregor > Given in terms of ability.
McGregor > Foster > Given in terms of cheapness.
Wouldn't mind seeing McGregor or Foster. It all depends on how much money we've got left after the transfers and how much money Randy is going to give AM. I personally think that McGregor will be good enough for a cheap price so we can concentrate on getting some full-backs and midfielders.
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Foster - Some noses think he was dodgy towards the end of the season but I think he's a top keeper.
Cahill - Would love him back as I still can't believe we let him go. Great defender who scores the odd goal
Rodwell - would be a really good signing but i dont think we have a snowballs of getting him
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I don't know if this has broken but NRC was going to sign for the blose so i wouldn't be surprised if he's coming back
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Re: AM'S first three signings?
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I don't know if this has broken but NRC was going to sign for the blose so i wouldn't be surprised if he's coming back
Would welcome back with open arms. our best player in the last 4/5 games of
last season.
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We are more than likely going to go with one up front, we have Bent, Gabby, Heskey and Fonzy. I really don't think a striker is the priority.
I would be happy with Adam, Foster, Dann, N'Zogbia, Walker (if we can keep Downing).
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The Sunday Mirror is saying McLeish will have £40 Million to spend
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Aston-Villa-transfer-news-Alex-McLeish-handed-40million-budget-to-rebuild-article749168.html
We obviously need a Keeper and Young is on his way, but still a bit to spend there. Could be interesting
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The Sunday Mirror is saying McLeish will have £40 Million to spend
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Aston-Villa-transfer-news-Alex-McLeish-handed-40million-budget-to-rebuild-article749168.html
We obviously need a Keeper and Young is on his way, but still a bit to spend there. Could be interesting
If it is 40 million plus Young cash, then it is enough. Still think we should, where possible, find some bargains.
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First 3 signings
1) McFadden
2) Ferguson
3) Hutton
OK - partly tongue in cheek.
Who I'd like to see?
Well Given would be a good start to be followed by Johnson and then someone who can actually win the ball in midfield and not give it away (like Barry when he was good)
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I can't see Blues wanting to do much business with us now so would take silly money to get Dann or Foster, so I would look else where.
I think a lot of the comments are sabre rattling from Pannu for the benefit of the unwashed, if would be ridiculous for them to cut ties with us as we will always be the biggest club in the area and there will always be players not good enough for our first team who want to stay in the area. The business we've done with them over the last five years has almost all been to their benefit.
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The Sun seemed to think yesterday that his fisrt signing will be Danny Simpson from Newcastle.
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Be still my beating heart.
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First 3 signings
1) McFadden
2) Ferguson
3) Hutton
OK - partly tongue in cheek.
Who I'd like to see?
Well Given would be a good start to be followed by Johnson and then someone who can actually win the ball in midfield and not give it away (like Barry when he was good)
Barry rarely won the ball in midfield.
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If that means that Wes Brown won't be coming, I am all for it!
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First 3 signings
1) McFadden
2) Ferguson
3) Hutton
OK - partly tongue in cheek.
Who I'd like to see?
Well Given would be a good start to be followed by Johnson and then someone who can actually win the ball in midfield and not give it away (like Barry when he was good)
Barry rarely won the ball in midfield.
I was going to make that comment earlier, but feared the ensuing debate about Barry would get tedious.
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First 3 signings
1) McFadden
2) Ferguson
3) Hutton
OK - partly tongue in cheek.
Who I'd like to see?
Well Given would be a good start to be followed by Johnson and then someone who can actually win the ball in midfield and not give it away (like Barry when he was good)
Barry rarely won the ball in midfield.
I was going to make that comment earlier, but feared the ensuing debate about Barry would get tedious.
Why didn't he take the penalty?
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Funny really as I think Given is a touch overrated. There's not a lot to choose between the two as far as I'm concerned.
Apart from a near ten year age difference..
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I don't know if this has broken but NRC was going to sign for the blose so i wouldn't be surprised if he's coming back
So Blues were going to pay him more than we offered him to stay?! I doubt it.
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NRC was going to drop a division when 4 weeks ago his agent was trying to get him £60k a week. Doubt it. Wouldn't be suprised to see him come back though.
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First 3 signings
1) McFadden
2) Ferguson
3) Hutton
OK - partly tongue in cheek.
Who I'd like to see?
Well Given would be a good start to be followed by Johnson and then someone who can actually win the ball in midfield and not give it away (like Barry when he was good)
Barry rarely won the ball in midfield.
I was going to make that comment earlier, but feared the ensuing debate about Barry would get tedious.
Obviously the Barry I saw 2006-08 (at his best) was the one who often intercepted passes, an extra yard in his head, rarely gave the ball away had very good anticipation and spacial awareness so didn't have to run around like a headless chicken to win the ball Savage style. He managed this whilst covering the ineffective Petrov's work too.