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Title: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: midlandjohn on June 15, 2011, 04:53:24 PM
AFC Small Heath Villa FC

Following both sets of fans from Villa and Blues being so upset with the powers that be at their clubs being so out of touch with the fans – do they care? It has been decided to form a new Club called AFC Small Heath Villa FC to represent our great City.

Therefore in the best traditions of football a meeting is to be held under a lamp post on the corner of Broad Street and Islington Row so if it rains we have plenty of Pubs to nip into in Broad Street at 8pm on Wednesday 15 June e.g. after the 6pm protest at Villa Park.

A stadium has already been secured for 2011/12 – well at least it’s not the pitch on the side of the hill at Billesley Common and a place in Division 8 of the Birmingham AFA. But this is just a start!

The 5 Year Plan:
Floodlights in our first season e.g. car owners will get 10% off their season ticket for parking around the pitch with full beam on.
Club colours claret and royal blue stripes shirts (short sleeved) and shorts, right sock claret left sock royal blue. No pink football boots or gloves allowed.
Seating for 250 by season 2, changing rooms will replace the cars for changing and showers to replace the buckets of cold water.
Further ground improvements to bring the stadium up to Conference level.
To reach the Conference by 2016/17 (a choice of a tour of York Cathedral or Nestles factory before the match at York City’s KitKat Stadium is already in the pipeline, Mansfield Town – a trip down a mine – we know what our fans want) where within two years we expect to get promoted to the Football League otherwise the Manager will be sacked.

Rules:
No Yank or Chinese owners or indeed any foreign owners who don’t understand our culture. Club to be owned by the fans for the fans but if the local butcher, baker or candle stick maker wants to put in a billion that’s fine.
All sackings/resignations to be done face to face – emails are banned.
No former players, managers, directors from local rivals
No Prima donnas
All transfers to Man Utd banned.
Sky TV banned
No kissing the badge - actually badges on our shirts will be banned cause we won’t have a badge.
A ladies section will be formed to be managed by Alex Mcleish although this won’t be until 2012/13 season as he will be jumping up and down on the side line at an empty Villa Park for 2011/12 before he resigns by email due to stress.

A volunteer is required to take the minutes of the first meeting please.

 All apologies to be emailed to the Chairman, Peter Pan at BCFC
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: glasses on June 15, 2011, 05:05:23 PM
May I suggest meeting on Sherlock Street instead?
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: villasjf on June 15, 2011, 05:08:56 PM
Not funny, not clever.Sorry.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: TaxDodger on June 15, 2011, 05:26:41 PM
In before the lock..
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: The Left Side on June 15, 2011, 05:27:48 PM
In before the lock..

me too, and a very bad idea
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Ian. on June 15, 2011, 05:28:17 PM
Bye then
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 15, 2011, 05:29:28 PM
I've often thought what would happen if a lot of local people pissed off with modern football formed a new club along the lines of AFC Liverpool, but not from just one set of supporters.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: TheTimVilla on June 15, 2011, 05:33:04 PM
There'd be chants of shit on the Derby Foxes Forest
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: darren woolley on June 15, 2011, 06:55:26 PM
AFC Villa don't seem to have the same ring to it has Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 15, 2011, 07:40:35 PM
On a serious note, in the latest issue of WSC a Chelsea fan reminisces as to how his football-supporting experience has changed in the quarter of a century that the magazine has been published.  I found his closing paragraph striking a deep resonance with me and how I have felt about top flight football for some considerable time.

"Perhaps most fans do measure satisfaction with their club solely by success on the field.  If so, the Abramovich model will suit them fine.  Nor is it obvious what realistic ownership alternatives exist at the top level.  But maybe I'm not the only one who would swap all the silverware for even a hint of what Wimbledon have created."
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Deano's Mullet on June 15, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
You'll be lucky to find any Birmingham City supporters that will be clever enough to understand any of your suggestions.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: ClarrieBlue on June 15, 2011, 09:50:54 PM
I've often wondered what it would be like to live in a one club town say like Newcastle or Stoke. I know they all manage to find a "local" rival but on Saturday night when you're out nearly everybody is gonna support the same team. No banter, jealousy, hatred or mickey taking. Probably better in some ways but worse in others.
PS:- I know Stoke have got Port Vale but you know what I mean
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 15, 2011, 09:58:15 PM
I know the OP is tongue in cheek, but it's not the worst idea I've ever heard.
Have a bit more ambition, secure a groundshare initially and aim for West Mids or Mid Comb and it could be a goer.

There's not enough really pissed off people yet and most of those who are are utter numpties of course, but if the clubs keep pissing off the hardcore support?
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 15, 2011, 10:00:13 PM
I reckon you could get forty or fifty, which is enough to start off in the Midland Com, where support usually consists of players' families and groundhoppers.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 15, 2011, 10:01:05 PM
Bromsgrove Villa, I like the sound of that.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 15, 2011, 10:02:18 PM
You'll be lucky to find any Birmingham City supporters that will be clever enough to understand any of your suggestions.

This would be the major stumbling block.
Not that Blues fans are all stupid, they aren't, they are pretty much like us but fewer in number, but that too many supporters on both sides could never put old hostilities aside for a common cause.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: olofmilosevic on June 15, 2011, 10:03:11 PM
dickhead!!!!
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 15, 2011, 10:03:48 PM
You'll be lucky to find any Birmingham City supporters that will be clever enough to understand any of your suggestions.

This would be the major stumbling block.
Not that Blues fans are all stupid, they aren't, they are pretty much like us but fewer in number, but that too many supporters on both sides could never put old hostilities aside for a common cause.


I don't think that would be a problem. The ones who would be interested wouldn't be the ones who think every other set of fans is the enemy.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 15, 2011, 10:04:03 PM
dickhead!!!!

Explain.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 15, 2011, 10:04:53 PM
You'll be lucky to find any Birmingham City supporters that will be clever enough to understand any of your suggestions.

This would be the major stumbling block.
Not that Blues fans are all stupid, they aren't, they are pretty much like us but fewer in number, but that too many supporters on both sides could never put old hostilities aside for a common cause.


I don't think that would be a problem. The ones who would be interested wouldn't be the ones who think every other set of fans is the enemy.

True.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 15, 2011, 10:06:14 PM
You'll be lucky to find any Birmingham City supporters that will be clever enough to understand any of your suggestions.

This would be the major stumbling block.
Not that Blues fans are all stupid, they aren't, they are pretty much like us but fewer in number, but that too many supporters on both sides could never put old hostilities aside for a common cause.


I don't think that would be a problem. The ones who would be interested wouldn't be the ones who think every other set of fans is the enemy.

What would you call the club? Even allowing for the fact that most of the ones involved won't be the SOTV/SOTC brigade, they still won't be too keen on Villa in the name and vice versa.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 15, 2011, 10:07:39 PM
How about Real Football FC?
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on June 15, 2011, 10:09:51 PM
FC Villa of Aston
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: TheMachineryOfNight on June 15, 2011, 10:21:41 PM
How about Real Football FC?

Now that name offers a broader reach, where common folk could get involved by way of protest regardless of their locale (though with obvious disadvantages in terms of getting to games if too far afield for you).

Maybe that project where people invested in a pot to buy a club went wrong because it was about taking an existing concern over.  Imagine a Wimbledon where everyone kept an eye out as a second club?  A manifesto for the common man's game.

Still, the irony is as soon as you galvanise the dissaffected across the board and move too far away from a club grounded in a specific place you start to 'do a [MK] Dons'
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: TheSandman on June 15, 2011, 10:26:58 PM
How about this for an idea:

If you want to support non (or even lower) league football as it is a purer less sanitised, cash rich form of the game then go and watch one of the many non-league clubs that already exist near you. There are clubs going out of business left right and centre and if people go and support them it might reverse this trend.

Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 15, 2011, 10:28:03 PM

Maybe that project where people invested in a pot to buy a club went wrong because it was about taking an existing concern over.  Imagine a Wimbledon where everyone kept an eye out as a second club?  A manifesto for the common man's game.


This is pretty much the scenario with AFC Liverpool, a group of Liverpool fans who had no real gripes with their club but wanted something cheaper, more like football used to be and a club they feel more attached to. I wouldn't say it's been a fantastic success, especially when compared with the non-league leviathan that is FC United, but they pull in crowds of 250ish in the North West Counties League, play in the FA Cup and Vase and have won a trophy or two.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: olaftab on June 15, 2011, 10:32:38 PM
Aston Brooke is available.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 15, 2011, 10:33:46 PM
How about this for an idea:

If you want to support non (or even lower) league football as it is a purer less sanitised, cash rich form of the game then go and watch one of the many non-league clubs that already exist near you. There are clubs going out of business left right and centre and if people go and support them it might reverse this trend.



I used to be of this mind, but having thought about it, if you have no attachment to a club it's difficult to support it.
A new club formed by disgruntled Blues and Villa fans wouldn't be taking support away from existing clubs, and, with all the will in the world, they just aren't going to start supporting an existing club.
Local non-league clubs in the Manchester area have benefited from FC United because many fans who would never have thought of watching non-league football before are now enthusiasts and go to other games regularly.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 15, 2011, 10:37:30 PM
It wouldn't just be Blues and Villa - it could be for all fans pissed off with the Premier League.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Jockey Randall on June 15, 2011, 10:49:57 PM
It wouldn't just be Blues and Villa - it could be for all fans pissed off with the Premier League.

It really is a load of bullshit when you think about it. Teams like us keep this show on the road and what do we have to look forward to every year? Oh ye, 6th downwards. Great.

The sooner the lottery winning tramps and the rest of the glory hunting brigade fuck off to their own european super league or whatever crap they think of next the better, and we can get back to competitive INTERESTING football because it's an absolute joke at the moment.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: TheMachineryOfNight on June 15, 2011, 10:54:55 PM
A Blues and Villa-based club would have a bit of a tricky one fixture-wise.  A few years back a few friends started to go down to watch Solihull Borough (before merger with Moor Green) but by a freak of stats there were more Blues ST holders than Villa ones in the group so mostly only went when Blues were away so I was very half-hearted, to be honest, missing the games with the bigger groups.

Mind you, easy to avoid a clash these days by playing on Sat at 3PM.

Still, it's not for me, I know.  We're thinking of emigrating in a year or so to Perth, WA.  Obviously Perth Glory are poor in comparison to Villa* and well, aren't Villa, so the thought doesn't connect.  If their kids are good enough, they go to Europe.  Whisper it but I'm more inclined to watch Super 15 rugby.


*Ok, give AM some time  ;)
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 15, 2011, 11:13:43 PM
A Blues and Villa-based club would have a bit of a tricky one fixture-wise. 

Not if it's for fans who, for one reason or another, don't want to watch Blues or Villa at the moment.
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: dcdavecollett on June 16, 2011, 02:26:32 PM
If the new team played on parks pitches, wouldn't there be a problem with the Blues?
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: TheMalandro on June 16, 2011, 02:44:18 PM
How about Aston Villa Soccer Club? Get a rich dude to buy it, appoint Mcleish and then fuck off to the club we really love
Title: Re: Lets Form A New Club
Post by: Mazrim on June 16, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
How about Aston Villa Soccer Club? Get a rich dude to buy it, appoint Mcleish and then fuck off to the club we really love

Ha!
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