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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: bartlett23 on June 14, 2011, 08:44:11 PM
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I have just received a text off a mate saying that one of the forums have arranged a protest in the North Stand car park at 6pm tomorrow? Is there any truth in this?
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;D ;D ;D
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I don't know as I have no interest in protesting.
I am taking this like a man. Grudged acceptance whilst drinking copious amounts of alcohol and playing through my entire music collection.
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Aston-Villa-Supporters-We-dont-want-Alex-McLeish/138020092940721
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I don't know as I have no interest in protesting.
I am taking this like a man. Grudged acceptance whilst drinking copious amounts of alcohol and playing through my entire music collection.
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Well all be this cool by the end of the first month, Valium, Prozac, Amatriptylene, yes the NHS are loving this.
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Its the "lets all look like Jawdees" protest.
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I hope not. Adrian Durham will have his cock out waiting in anticipation for something like this to happen. Despite complete hostility this is the decision the board have made. lets show some respect and pride, we have been dragged through the media wringer enough already.....
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Dear oh dear. Laughing stock here we come.
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I can't be arsed.
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Its getting worse!
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fuck me this is embarrassing. Are the protesters going to don pitch forks, piss on the McGregor statue and burn effigies of Randy and Paul? You lot are giving the likes of Talksport all the ammo they need to make us look like total idiots.
Nobody said you had to be happy with the appointment. The media will spin this so that all Villa fans will be seen as part of the protest as opposed to a few clowns.
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A protest is small time, but I can understand the reasons why it is being done. Randy Lerner, Paul Faulkner and General Krulak clearly don't have a clue as to the strength of our feelings. It would be great to have 10,000 people there.
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Dear oh dear. Laughing stock here we come.
Board only have themselves to blame. Don't blame the fans. The board have approached several managers and have been turned down and in desperation are selling a man who relegated Blues twice as the best candidate.
If they went after him from day one it wouldn't be as bad but the whole thing has been a mess that is ending like a car crash.
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About as much truth as those posting, thinking they can see into the future with the banal rantings of doom and gloom.
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fuck me this is embarrassing. Are the protesters going to don pitch forks, piss on the McGregor statue and burn effigies of Randy and Paul? You lot are giving the likes of Talksport all the ammo they need to make us look like total idiots.
Nobody said you had to be happy with the appointment. The media will spin this so that all Villa fans will be seen as part of the protest as opposed to a few clowns.
Well said. This hyper-indignation is a fucking embarrassment.
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I'm all for free speech, but anyone who takes part in this is an absolute knobhead. Grow a pair and get over it.
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It's time to man up and take our medicine.
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
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Dear oh dear. Laughing stock here we come.
Board only have themselves to blame. Don't blame the fans. The board have approached several managers and have been turned down and in desperation are selling a man who relegated Blues twice as the best candidate.
If they went after him from day one it wouldn't be as bad but the whole thing has been a mess that is ending like a car crash.
'The fans'? I am a fan thanks very much so I won't be blaming myself. Protests. FFS.
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That's it lads, stick it to the man. It's just like Egypt all over again. Bloody leaders eh!
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
Bet you weren't saying that when they bankrolled Bent were you?
Being disappointed is one thing, but outrageous comments like that are just silly.
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
I won't.
And can we take a step back and remember we are only interviewing him at this stage; not renaming the Holte End after him.
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Idea a joke
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I'm all for free speech, but anyone who takes part in this is an absolute knobhead. Grow a pair and get over it.
exactly.
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give it up and get behind the villa - decison is made.I for one like it or not will be there supporting the club, - just think how could it will be if we do actually have a good season and can rub it in the SHA - fun,fun,fun!
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
I don't understand why some people are so down on people protesting, in whatever form in may take. This regime have for so long said they listen to the fans, and take their views on board. So surely that is an invitation for the fans to offer an opinion if they feel strongly against something.
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Renaming the Holte End - You mean none of you know that due to the loss of revenue from appointing McLeish we are renaming the Holte End ........??
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I cant decide if a protest is a good idea or not. Yes it will be embarrassing for the club but for how long? Few days at the most? Which if it stops us getting Mcleish will be worth it.
It MAY just make Randy realize that this is a bad bad move.
And as the protests on here and Facebook are in the news anyhow is a physical protest any worse?
As long as people are behaved and rent a chavs dont turn up then maybe its a good idea?
I could be swayed either way!
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I can imagine someone penning their ' I have a dream ' speech. Get real and get on with it. If you protest tomorrow, you are a knob and give the Cockney media more reason to make us look bad ( they do not need any encouragement). The minority again will turn us into a whinging laughing stock, dont tar us with the same brush.
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
I don't understand why some people are so down on people protesting, in whatever form in may take. This regime have for so long said they listen to the fans, and take their views on board. So surely that is an invitation for the fans to offer an opinion if they feel strongly against something.
Exactly. I think this situation is worthy of a protest.
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It is not worth it.
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what a bunch of wankers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It is not worth it.
What exactly would you protest against?
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Why bother? Randys not listened so far so its not like he's gonna pay attention to the 20-odd protestors tomorrow.
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
I don't understand why some people are so down on people protesting, in whatever form in may take. This regime have for so long said they listen to the fans, and take their views on board. So surely that is an invitation for the fans to offer an opinion if they feel strongly against something.
Exactly. I think this situation is worthy of a protest.
And achieve what exactly ? It will be ill conceived, no organisation and based purely on hatred of a football club. Fecking pathetic
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I'm voting with my feet. I'm not going down
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
I don't understand why some people are so down on people protesting, in whatever form in may take. This regime have for so long said they listen to the fans, and take their views on board. So surely that is an invitation for the fans to offer an opinion if they feel strongly against something.
Exactly. I think this situation is worthy of a protest.
I won't be protesting but have nothing against those that do, if they do it in the right manner. It is actually a protest that could acheive it's desired result. Comparing it to the protests at Newcastle is ridiculous, they were protesting for the owner of the club to leave when nobody else wanted the club, there was no acheiveable result.
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Look as if a lot of people are just going to accept it "cause it's Villa innit, I will support them till i die".
That's exactly why football clubs can bend you over and take you up the arse because they know you will come back and keep plying money into them whatever they do.
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
I don't understand why some people are so down on people protesting, in whatever form in may take. This regime have for so long said they listen to the fans, and take their views on board. So surely that is an invitation for the fans to offer an opinion if they feel strongly against something.
Exactly. I think this situation is worthy of a protest.
And achieve what exactly ? It will be ill conceived, no organisation and based purely on hatred of a football club. Fecking pathetic
It's not based on based purely on the hatred of the blues. Please keep up my good man.
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why on Earth protest, nothing will change..... The board will make their decision and a few rowdy people shouting and swearing will not change it. We have no choice but to support the Team we love.
We don't have to be happy but we are Villa fans and we can't change that!
I may not want to drive 260 miles to see the Team I love , but I will always be a fan
actually the best time of my life being a villa fan apart from Rotterdam one lucky night was a year in div 3..... fantastic times,
cheer up and support the Team we all Love
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why on Earth protest, nothing will change..... The board will make their decision and a few rowdy people shouting and swearing will not change it. We have no choice but to support the Team we love.
We don't have to be happy but we are Villa fans and we can't change that!
I may not want to drive 260 miles to see the Team I love , but I will always be a fan
actually the best time of my life being a villa fan apart from Rotterdam one lucky night was a year in div 3..... fantastic times,
cheer up and support the Team we all Love
I have to admit this is true. :)
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No,no,no! This whole episode is embarrasing enough. A protest will make us look worse than the geordies, and the whole country was pissing themselves laughing at them.
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
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If any supporters wish to protest concerning the board's decision to appoint a 3rd rate (at best) manager then that's fine by me.
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
So if 10,000 turn up tomorrow it wont make a difference. I beg to differ.
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Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest unless you're happy with the club being run by clueless yanks making mind numbingly dumb decisions. We are customers, we are free people and we are free to protest. I'll be there at 6pm.
I don't understand why some people are so down on people protesting, in whatever form in may take. This regime have for so long said they listen to the fans, and take their views on board. So surely that is an invitation for the fans to offer an opinion if they feel strongly against something.
Exactly. I think this situation is worthy of a protest.
And achieve what exactly ? It will be ill conceived, no organisation and based purely on hatred of a football club. Fecking pathetic
It's not based on based purely on the hatred of the blues. Please keep up my good man.
Of course it is - Martinez kept Wigan up by the skin of his teeth, and Wigan were hardly crowd pleasers !!! You accepted him with open arms last week. Fact is over 2 years Mcliesh has a better record than Martinez, so whats the difference if its nothing to do with the club he came from. Answer that my good man
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nearly as embarrassing as those posts about starting a new anthem,ffs
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what a bunch of wankers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
always good to get the balanced view!
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
So if 10,000 turn up tomorrow it wont make a difference. I beg to differ.
But 10000 will not turn up cos the Apprentice will be on. Thats the point a few will jump on a very small bandwagon and give the majority a bad name.
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Im not against the protest but i think it will come across as we dont want McLeish because he was blues manager and not because hes a poor manager.
I dont get this he has to have premiership experience rubbish McLeish has relegation experience if thats the way we want to go.
On saying all that ive still renewed my season ticket as I support the Club not the individuals
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It is not worth it.
What exactly would you protest against?
I am not disagreeing with the protest. I believe it would be more fruitful to stop attending games and vote with feet. Rather than giving the club and other supporters negative media attention.
Do not get me wrong though, McCleish is far from anybody's favourite to take charge of the club.
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Cringeworthy, embaressing and small time. I really hope no one pays attention to this
Can we not just support the club and give the guy a chance, is that really too much to ask?
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Cringeworthy, embaressing and small time. I really hope no one pays attention to this
Can we not just support the club and give the guy a chance, is that really too much to ask?
Thanks Alex a sane voice at last, it is really annoying to be associated with this rentamob
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Talk Sport will be getting their outside broadcast vans ready as we speak, we will look so stupid.......just see it from an outsiders viewpoint.
Villa fans protest because New Manager was the manager of B,ham city...... that's how it will be spun, those fools on talk sport will have a field day, all the London cabbies who appear to be the only ones who listen to it will be ""gaw blimey do wat look at dem daft brummies, gert yer cow son!""
we will be the laughing stock.
And when only a few turn up it will be even funnier , talk Shite will also have a field day out of that too, saying Villa fans don't care.
Sorry but it is a lose lose situation!
think I'll watch the apprentice, no real lookers this year though!
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
So if 10,000 turn up tomorrow it wont make a difference. I beg to differ.
more like 100 if its not raining!
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Cringeworthy, embaressing and small time. I really hope no one pays attention to this
Can we not just support the club and give the guy a chance, is that really too much to ask?
Thanks Alex a sane voice at last, it is really annoying to be associated with this rentamob
Yep, this for me.
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
So if 10,000 turn up tomorrow it wont make a difference. I beg to differ.
But 10000 will not turn up cos the Apprentice will be on. Thats the point a few will jump on a very small bandwagon and give the majority a bad name.
It starts at 6 by the looks of it, the Apprentice doesn't start 'til 9, they should be able to get back for it.
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10,000 to turn up? I'll be surprised if there's 100.
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Cringeworthy, embaressing and small time. I really hope no one pays attention to this
Can we not just support the club and give the guy a chance, is that really too much to ask?
Let's see if you're making the same remark after our first ten games!
The future's not bright, it's ginger and sweaty.
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
So if 10,000 turn up tomorrow it wont make a difference. I beg to differ.
But 10000 will not turn up cos the Apprentice will be on. Thats the point a few will jump on a very small bandwagon and give the majority a bad name.
It starts at 6 by the looks of it, the Apprentice doesn't start 'til 9, they should be able to get back for it.
especially if they all share a taxi!
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I'll be there - to set up a stall selling fanta and cola and sweeties to all the silly little boys before their bedtime.
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
So if 10,000 turn up tomorrow it wont make a difference. I beg to differ.
But 10000 will not turn up cos the Apprentice will be on. Thats the point a few will jump on a very small bandwagon and give the majority a bad name.
It starts at 6 by the looks of it, the Apprentice doesn't start 'til 9, they should be able to get back for it.
Ok Eggheads - and they are on a 30 episode winning streak, and that will have an effect on this rent a mob excercise at getting their mugs on Midlands Today. No doubt you will be checking . You tube when you get home ( after the Apprentice has finished of course) to find your 15 seconds of fame. Its laughable
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I'll be there - to set up a stall selling fanta and cola and sweeties to all the silly little boys before their bedtime.
Give our regards to wikivilla!
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
So if 10,000 turn up tomorrow it wont make a difference. I beg to differ.
But 10000 will not turn up cos the Apprentice will be on. Thats the point a few will jump on a very small bandwagon and give the majority a bad name.
It starts at 6 by the looks of it, the Apprentice doesn't start 'til 9, they should be able to get back for it.
Ok Eggheads - and they are on a 30 episode winning streak, and that will have an effect on this rent a mob excercise at getting their mugs on Midlands Today. No doubt you will be checking . You tube when you get home ( after the Apprentice has finished of course) to find your 15 seconds of fame. Its laughable
Mentioned earlier in the thread I won't be attending, but have no problem with those who wish to do so.
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Talk Sport will be getting their outside broadcast vans ready as we speak, we will look so stupid.......just see it from an outsiders viewpoint.
Villa fans protest because New Manager was the manager of B,ham city...... that's how it will be spun, those fools on talk sport will have a field day, all the London cabbies who appear to be the only ones who listen to it will be ""gaw blimey do wat look at dem daft brummies, gert yer cow son!""
we will be the laughing stock.
And when only a few turn up it will be even funnier , talk Shite will also have a field day out of that too, saying Villa fans don't care.
Sorry but it is a lose lose situation!
think I'll watch the apprentice, no real lookers this year though!
So you care more what London cabbies think rather than making a protest against a totally damaging appointment.
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It's odd that so many people can visit an anonymous messageboard, and protest, object, disagree, and get downright angry about a decision they think is wrong. But then have the right to also accuse those wishing to protest in person as embarassing.
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Talk Sport will be getting their outside broadcast vans ready as we speak, we will look so stupid.......just see it from an outsiders viewpoint.
Villa fans protest because New Manager was the manager of B,ham city...... that's how it will be spun, those fools on talk sport will have a field day, all the London cabbies who appear to be the only ones who listen to it will be ""gaw blimey do wat look at dem daft brummies, gert yer cow son!""
we will be the laughing stock.
And when only a few turn up it will be even funnier , talk Shite will also have a field day out of that too, saying Villa fans don't care.
Sorry but it is a lose lose situation!
think I'll watch the apprentice, no real lookers this year though!
So you care more what London cabbies think rather than making a protest against a totally damaging appointment.
No care about those attending who will come acrose as total twats, spitting bile simply because of who he managed previously nothing more or less. As I said you welcomed Martinez last week, who has a worse managerial record over the last 2 years and hardly plays entertaining football. Answer that before you start protesting or just admit that its nothing to do with your love for Villa and more your hatred of Small Heath
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It's odd that so many people can visit an anonymous messageboard, and protest, object, disagree, and get downright angry about a decision they think is wrong. But then have the right to also accuse those wishing to protest in person as embarassing.
Because they cannot answer hoestly why they are protesting and will make us all a laughing stock
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It's odd that so many people can visit an anonymous messageboard, and protest, object, disagree, and get downright angry about a decision they think is wrong. But then have the right to also accuse those wishing to protest in person as embarassing.
i agree here, we all pay too much for our fuel,we just take it, we are told we are radicals if we protest about an anti war message but that is our opinion, but it is fine to come on here and verbally protest but not show our faces?
I wont be there, i have not made my mind up on anything as the club havent either, but if you want to show your feelings do so!
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Didn't intend to kick up such a fuss! I wont be going myself, just wondered if all the talk was true. It will be interesting to see how many turn up if it is actually going ahead. Somebody mentioned that we will become a laughing stock, however I'm afraid that it seems we already are after the handling of this situation as a club.
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Talk Sport will be getting their outside broadcast vans ready as we speak, we will look so stupid.......just see it from an outsiders viewpoint.
Villa fans protest because New Manager was the manager of B,ham city...... that's how it will be spun, those fools on talk sport will have a field day, all the London cabbies who appear to be the only ones who listen to it will be ""gaw blimey do wat look at dem daft brummies, gert yer cow son!""
we will be the laughing stock.
And when only a few turn up it will be even funnier , talk Shite will also have a field day out of that too, saying Villa fans don't care.
Sorry but it is a lose lose situation!
think I'll watch the apprentice, no real lookers this year though!
So you care more what London cabbies think rather than making a protest against a totally damaging appointment.
No care about those attending who will come acrose as total twats, spitting bile simply because of who he managed previously nothing more or less. As I said you welcomed Martinez last week, who has a worse managerial record over the last 2 years and hardly plays entertaining football. Answer that before you start protesting or just admit that its nothing to do with your love for Villa and more your hatred of Small Heath
Most never welcomed Martinez last week. I didn't. I repeat this is nowt to do with Small Heath. He is not good enough and we can do better.
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Everyone is entitled to their view, mine happens to be why potentially appoint a Manager who played football even more dour than O'Dreary? Didn't Blues score the lowest number of goals... not forgetting the two relegations.
I don't know if I would turn up to protest at six o'clock but I just might be persuaded to. I used the official club website to send an email direct to voice my displeasure that any decent business has a contingency plan for labour turnover- surely we wouldn't get caught with our pants down twice after MON leaving and us being totally clueless... obviously not. We are the owners of this club and whilst no decision will ever be universally popular surely we don't have to bend over backwards to try and find one so blatantly unpopular
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Talk Sport will be getting their outside broadcast vans ready as we speak, we will look so stupid.......just see it from an outsiders viewpoint.
Villa fans protest because New Manager was the manager of B,ham city...... that's how it will be spun, those fools on talk sport will have a field day, all the London cabbies who appear to be the only ones who listen to it will be ""gaw blimey do wat look at dem daft brummies, gert yer cow son!""
we will be the laughing stock.
And when only a few turn up it will be even funnier , talk Shite will also have a field day out of that too, saying Villa fans don't care.
Sorry but it is a lose lose situation!
think I'll watch the apprentice, no real lookers this year though!
So you care more what London cabbies think rather than making a protest against a totally damaging appointment.
No care about those attending who will come acrose as total twats, spitting bile simply because of who he managed previously nothing more or less. As I said you welcomed Martinez last week, who has a worse managerial record over the last 2 years and hardly plays entertaining football. Answer that before you start protesting or just admit that its nothing to do with your love for Villa and more your hatred of Small Heath
Who are all these people who welcomed Martinez? Or are you just referring to a specific poster?
Personally, I saw our pursuit of him as a sign we wanted to do things on the cheap, and the pursuit of McLeish makes me fear the worst again.
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fuck me this is embarrassing. Are the protesters going to don pitch forks, piss on the McGregor statue and burn effigies of Randy and Paul? You lot are giving the likes of Talksport all the ammo they need to make us look like total idiots.
Nobody said you had to be happy with the appointment. The media will spin this so that all Villa fans will be seen as part of the protest as opposed to a few clowns.
Well said. This hyper-indignation is a fucking embarrassment.
How I feel
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It's odd that so many people can visit an anonymous messageboard, and protest, object, disagree, and get downright angry about a decision they think is wrong. But then have the right to also accuse those wishing to protest in person as embarassing.
Too right ... borders on the "I'm a better fan .. " arguments that go on
2 faced?
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fuck me this is embarrassing. Are the protesters going to don pitch forks, piss on the McGregor statue and burn effigies of Randy and Paul? You lot are giving the likes of Talksport all the ammo they need to make us look like total idiots.
Nobody said you had to be happy with the appointment. The media will spin this so that all Villa fans will be seen as part of the protest as opposed to a few clowns.
Well said. This hyper-indignation is a fucking embarrassment.
How I feel
i think it is highly hypocritical of anyone who has voiced their opinion on this subject and do not want him as manager to have a go at anyone who will be protesting outside vp. It is exactly the same thing!
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It's odd that so many people can visit an anonymous messageboard, and protest, object, disagree, and get downright angry about a decision they think is wrong. But then have the right to also accuse those wishing to protest in person as embarassing.
So exactly, what are you going to do? Do you have a plan? Are you going bang on the windows? Are you going to create placards tonight with "McLeish Out" even though he's not even got the job yet? Are you going to throw eggs at the receptionist? Or is it going to be mass stomping of feet that will get the attention of the board in between giving TalkSport/Sky/BBC/The Sun all of the material they need to make us look foolish. In fact if you are going to protest, I hope there's 40,000 of you, because if there's only a handful with your kids running around and your wives holding flasks of Bovril late into the night, you're going to make us look even more foolish.
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i think it is highly hypocritical of anyone who has voiced their opinion on this subject and do not want him as manager to have a go at anyone who will be protesting outside vp. It is exactly the same thing!
Not if he's already manager it isn't.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to do whatever they feel is right.
But, Ill ask this as it was asked every time there was a Doug protest. This is what you're going to do tomorrow. What are you going to do the day after?
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Cringeworthy, embaressing and small time. I really hope no one pays attention to this
Can we not just support the club and give the guy a chance, is that really too much to ask?
Let's see if you're making the same remark after our first ten games!
We'll re-asses the situation after around 10 - 15 games. Protesting someone being interviewed or someone not being given a chance is poor
Out of intrest, will you be renewing if he signs?
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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It's odd that so many people can visit an anonymous messageboard, and protest, object, disagree, and get downright angry about a decision they think is wrong. But then have the right to also accuse those wishing to protest in person as embarassing.
So exactly, what are you going to do? Do you have a plan? Are you going bang on the windows? Are you going to create placards tonight with "McLeish Out" even though he's not even got the job yet? Are you going to throw eggs at the receptionist? Or is it going to be mass stomping of feet that will get the attention of the board in between giving TalkSport/Sky/BBC/The Sun all of the material they need to make us look foolish. In fact if you are going to protest, I hope there's 40,000 of you, because if there's only a handful with your kids running around and your wives holding flasks of Bovril late into the night, you're going to make us look even more foolish.
I did actually mention that I wouldn't be going but had no objection to those wishing to make a protest in whatever manner they have decided, sorry I don't know the details. To honest a large amount of comments on here make Villa fans look foolish, it doesn't take a protest.
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fuck me this is embarrassing. Are the protesters going to don pitch forks, piss on the McGregor statue and burn effigies of Randy and Paul? You lot are giving the likes of Talksport all the ammo they need to make us look like total idiots.
Nobody said you had to be happy with the appointment. The media will spin this so that all Villa fans will be seen as part of the protest as opposed to a few clowns.
Well said. This hyper-indignation is a fucking embarrassment.
How I feel
i think it is highly hypocritical of anyone who has voiced their opinion on this subject and do not want him as manager to have a go at anyone who will be protesting outside vp. It is exactly the same thing!
Au contraire.
I do not want McLeish as a manger. But I won't protest. It makes us and the club look like fucking idiots. McLeish may not be a great manager but he does have his plus points. I'll support the club.
Like I did over Houllier. And I didn't want him as manager either. Never liked him.
I was also pleased when MON left. But would never have gone as far as protesting against him.
Can you not see the difference between expressing an opinion on a message board and protesting at the ground?
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fuck me this is embarrassing. Are the protesters going to don pitch forks, piss on the McGregor statue and burn effigies of Randy and Paul? You lot are giving the likes of Talksport all the ammo they need to make us look like total idiots.
Nobody said you had to be happy with the appointment. The media will spin this so that all Villa fans will be seen as part of the protest as opposed to a few clowns.
Well said. This hyper-indignation is a fucking embarrassment.
How I feel
i think it is highly hypocritical of anyone who has voiced their opinion on this subject and do not want him as manager to have a go at anyone who will be protesting outside vp. It is exactly the same thing!
Au contraire.
I do not want McLeish as a manger. But I won't protest. It makes us and the club look like fucking idiots. McLeish may not be a great manager but he does have his plus points. I'll support the club.
Like I did over Houllier. And I didn't want him as manager either. Never liked him.
I was also pleased when MON left. But would never have gone as far as protesting against him.
Can you not see the difference between expressing an opinion on a message board and protesting at the ground?
Apathy?
Can be arsed any more, off to bed :)
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Apathy?
Fucking 15 years of running this site and being part of every Villa protest in that time.
AVISA marching, the "£" protest.
The only one I didn't take part in was the distasteful VFC's Red card with the Terry Weir RIP on it.
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
We've regularly disagreed, Tone,, but get a grip man "evil"?
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
We've regularly disagreed, Tone,, but get a grip man "evil"?
It is just a famous quote - not all of it to be taken literally.
c90% of the fans dont want him, so why not get down to VP and say so.
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If people want to do it they should.
But there's few things more ridiculous than a bunch of fat blokes in football shirts looking angry.
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I think.pretty much everyone knows we don't want him. Depends if anyone is listening
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
We've regularly disagreed, Tone,, but get a grip man "evil"?
It is just a famous quote - not all of it to be taken literally.
c90% of the fans dont want him, so why not get down to VP and say so.
Do you mean 90% of Villa fans don't want him, or 90% of the people who voted on this site don't want him?
There's a bit of a difference, don't you think?
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a protest will look stupid, without doubt
the more i think of it, mccleish will not be our next manager
roll on the end of this month, when we will get our new manager in
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I'm all for free speech, but anyone who takes part in this is an absolute knobhead. Grow a pair and get over it.
Agreed.
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I'm all for free speech, but anyone who takes part in this is an absolute knobhead. Grow a pair and get over it.
Agreed.
Spot on.
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
We've regularly disagreed, Tone,, but get a grip man "evil"?
It is just a famous quote - not all of it to be taken literally.
c90% of the fans dont want him, so why not get down to VP and say so.
I'm fully aware of the words of Edmund Burke, it's just not appropriate.
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My protest will be to stop going. I've missed maybe 3 games in 15 years at Villa Park but this is too much.
Can't blame anyone for protesting, I think it's more about venting frustration than thinking they can achieve something.
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
We've regularly disagreed, Tone,, but get a grip man "evil"?
It is just a famous quote - not all of it to be taken literally.
c90% of the fans dont want him, so why not get down to VP and say so.
Do you mean 90% of Villa fans don't want him, or 90% of the people who voted on this site don't want him?
There's a bit of a difference, don't you think?
I'd have thought 90% was a conversative estimate
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I don't know how this would help? If we employ him we are just adding to the pressure are we not?
You can not crucify someone without giving them a chance. You might not agree with the appointment but its not going to change the boards mind. I'm sure we are making a mistake, but maybe we are not and its up to the new manager to prove us wrong.
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If there are pictures on Sky Sports News of moronic idiots protesting tomorrow, I think I may actually be embarrassed about my club for the first time in my life.
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He hasn't passed his interview, yet. Prays.
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
We've regularly disagreed, Tone,, but get a grip man "evil"?
It is just a famous quote - not all of it to be taken literally.
c90% of the fans dont want him, so why not get down to VP and say so.
Do you mean 90% of Villa fans don't want him, or 90% of the people who voted on this site don't want him?
There's a bit of a difference, don't you think?
In this case, no I don't.
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We'll appoint a new manager, whether its McLeish or someone else.
He'll say positive things in his press conference.
The fixture list will be revealed for the new season.
We'll buy some exciting new players.
The season will start and we'll all be there as usual.
We'll get over it, for God's sake!
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So if 10,000 turn up tomorrow it wont make a difference. I beg to differ.
But they won't though, will they. There'll be a couple of people waving sheets of A4 around and chanting some witless song thought up at the last minute, the rest of the crowd will be made up of spotty herberts trying to get their dozy mugs on SSN as if it's transfer deadline day.
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We'll appoint a new manager, whether its McLeish or someone else.
He'll say positive things in his press conference.
The fixture list will be revealed for the new season.
We'll buy some exciting new players.
The season will start and we'll all be there as usual.
We'll get over it, for God's sake!
If it's McLeish:
We'll buy some shit players
We'll struggle to score goals
We'll be hovering around the wrong end of the table.
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We'll appoint a new manager, whether its McLeish or someone else.
He'll say positive things in his press conference.
The fixture list will be revealed for the new season.
We'll buy some exciting new players.
The season will start and we'll all be there as usual.
We'll get over it, for God's sake!
What exciting new players will want to join us now? And based on this managerial appointment can we afford them anyway? If Mcleish is there I won't be. I'll come back when the nightmare is over.
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Should we run a 'Guess The Crowd' for the protest?
I'm going to say around 50.
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Supporting Aston Villa football Club is an honour and a privilege. I will not turn up at the protest but as this is all about passion I respect those who will express their passion by showing discontent.
Bravo and good luck.
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Supporting Aston Villa football Club is an honour and a privilege. I will not turn up at the protest but as this is all about passion I respect those who will express their passion by showing discontent.
Bravo and good luck.
How I feel. Am at Peter Kay tomorrow otherwise I'd join. Should we all just accept it if 90% fell so strongly?
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We'll appoint a new manager, whether its McLeish or someone else.
He'll say positive things in his press conference.
The fixture list will be revealed for the new season.
We'll buy some exciting new players.
The season will start and we'll all be there as usual.
We'll get over it, for God's sake!
What exciting new players will want to join us now? And based on this managerial appointment can we afford them anyway? If Mcleish is there I won't be. I'll come back when the nightmare is over.
If you've really only missed three games in 15 years, you'll be there again next season. This hysteria will soon fade.
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We'll appoint a new manager, whether its McLeish or someone else.
He'll say positive things in his press conference.
The fixture list will be revealed for the new season.
We'll buy some exciting new players.
The season will start and we'll all be there as usual.
We'll get over it, for God's sake!
What exciting new players will want to join us now? And based on this managerial appointment can we afford them anyway? If Mcleish is there I won't be. I'll come back when the nightmare is over.
If you've really only missed three games in 15 years, you'll be there again next season. This hysteria will soon fade.
Trouble is, so will a lot of interest from more casual fans. This is bound to have a serious negative effect on our attendances. Not just because of the Blues thing, but appointing such a dismal manager is hardly a statement of intent to get people excited is it?
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The cameras and reporters will be there just as they have been live tonight outside the Villa offices with lights still on, but Lerner and his board won't.
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We'll appoint a new manager, whether its McLeish or someone else.
He'll say positive things in his press conference.
The fixture list will be revealed for the new season.
We'll buy some exciting new players.
The season will start and we'll all be there as usual.
We'll get over it, for God's sake!
What exciting new players will want to join us now? And based on this managerial appointment can we afford them anyway? If Mcleish is there I won't be. I'll come back when the nightmare is over.
If you've really only missed three games in 15 years, you'll be there again next season. This hysteria will soon fade.
Trouble is, so will a lot of interest from more casual fans. This is bound to have a serious negative effect on our attendances. Not just because of the Blues thing, but appointing such a dismal manager is hardly a statement of intent to get people excited is it?
True. I reckon our attendances will be down a fair bit next season unless McLeish produces something to draw them back in (good signings, a good start etc) which I don't foresee.
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We'll appoint a new manager, whether its McLeish or someone else.
He'll say positive things in his press conference.
The fixture list will be revealed for the new season.
We'll buy some exciting new players.
The season will start and we'll all be there as usual.
We'll get over it, for God's sake!
What exciting new players will want to join us now? And based on this managerial appointment can we afford them anyway? If Mcleish is there I won't be. I'll come back when the nightmare is over.
God almighty. I thought the Ellis years were over.
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We'll appoint a new manager, whether its McLeish or someone else.
He'll say positive things in his press conference.
The fixture list will be revealed for the new season.
We'll buy some exciting new players.
The season will start and we'll all be there as usual.
We'll get over it, for God's sake!
What exciting new players will want to join us now? And based on this managerial appointment can we afford them anyway? If Mcleish is there I won't be. I'll come back when the nightmare is over.
If you've really only missed three games in 15 years, you'll be there again next season. This hysteria will soon fade.
I almost didn't renew for financial reasons (pay cut at work) but I trusted them to get a decent manager in and I'd be gutted to miss out. Now we look set for a miserable season I can't justify spending that much money on something I won't even enjoy anymore. As I've said before, I've never dreaded going to Villa Park but the idea of that first game is just awful.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
If people aren't happy then let them make it known. At least they're being proactive unlike most the 'tossers' on here who will moan about how outrageous this is but would rather sit on their arse.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
If people aren't happy then let them make it known. At least they're being proactive unlike most the 'tossers' on here who will moan about how outrageous this is but would rather sit on their arse.
Heard it all before with Doug. Proactive it ain't.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
If people aren't happy then let them make it known. At least they're being proactive unlike most the 'tossers' on here who will moan about how outrageous this is but would rather sit on their arse.
It's so bloody small time it's something I couldn't even imagine the Kuckledraggers doing. The lengths some people will go to be on TV... totally embarrassing. Proactive my arse.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
If people aren't happy then let them make it known. At least they're being proactive unlike most the 'tossers' on here who will moan about how outrageous this is but would rather sit on their arse.
It's so bloody small time it's something I couldn't even imagine the Kuckledraggers doing. The lengths some people will go to be on TV... totally embarrassing. Proactive my arse.
Let 'em get on with it Mark, they're no more embarrassing than the shambles that Lerner seems intent on turning the club into.
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Blah blah blah, small time, small time, small time I wish people would stop fucking saying that. I really couldn't give a fuck what the cockney meeja think. And if anything the the fucking board who have made us look 'small time'.
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Protest? Children, children, settle down.
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Forget this protest lark and think about sort of questions if asked he would not be able to answer and thus fail his interview.I will start with:
Well Alex tell us how you will get the team to score on average more than 1 goal per game?
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Well said Mark, I've never been more embarassed to be a Villa supporter. Risso, 'the shambles that Lerner seems intent on turning the club into?' Please
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Supporting Aston Villa football Club is an honour and a privilege. I will not turn up at the protest but as this is all about passion I respect those who will express their passion by showing discontent.
Bravo and good luck.
I agree in, but am worried that it will give the media a chance to point and laugh, and won't have that much effect on the board's decision.
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Blah blah blah, small time, small time, small time I wish people would stop fucking saying that. I really couldn't give a fuck what the cockney meeja think. And if anything the the fucking board who have made us look 'small time'.
Thing is that it's not the 'cockney media' saying it's small time, it's other Villa fans. About 50 people will turn up tomorrow, you watch, and that's 50 too bloody many. When life gives you lemons, eat your fucking lemons. We'll be back again, the owners know the pitfalls, and if they don't now, then 12 months of McLeish will educate them.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
If people aren't happy then let them make it known. At least they're being proactive unlike most the 'tossers' on here who will moan about how outrageous this is but would rather sit on their arse.
It's so bloody small time it's something I couldn't even imagine the Kuckledraggers doing. The lengths some people will go to be on TV... totally embarrassing. Proactive my arse.
Man U fans protest. Are they small time? Last I knew they were in the top 5 biggest clubs in the world.
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Down with this sort of thing
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
If people aren't happy then let them make it known. At least they're being proactive unlike most the 'tossers' on here who will moan about how outrageous this is but would rather sit on their arse.
It's so bloody small time it's something I couldn't even imagine the Kuckledraggers doing. The lengths some people will go to be on TV... totally embarrassing. Proactive my arse.
Man U fans protest. Are they small time? Last I knew they were in the top 5 biggest clubs in the world.
They're classless wankers. I don't give a fuck what they do or say.
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Down with this sort of thing
Careful now.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
If people aren't happy then let them make it known. At least they're being proactive unlike most the 'tossers' on here who will moan about how outrageous this is but would rather sit on their arse.
It's so bloody small time it's something I couldn't even imagine the Kuckledraggers doing. The lengths some people will go to be on TV... totally embarrassing. Proactive my arse.
So bloody small time, like the club we support appointing Alex Mcleish. Quite apt then really.
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I was offered a lift down to this protest tomorrow a bit earlier on, which i've declined, but i've not got a problem with it. If it does any good, then so be it.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
If people aren't happy then let them make it known. At least they're being proactive unlike most the 'tossers' on here who will moan about how outrageous this is but would rather sit on their arse.
It's so bloody small time it's something I couldn't even imagine the Kuckledraggers doing. The lengths some people will go to be on TV... totally embarrassing. Proactive my arse.
So bloody small time, like the club we support appointing Alex Mcleish. Quite apt then really.
So if the shoe fits then, eh?
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The thing is, people aren't happy and want some way to vent that. If a protest is what they feel is the best thing then go for it. There's a lot of very condescending posts on this thread making out that anyone who wants to protest or who thinks it's worth doing is embarrassing and worse than the geordies.
Will it do any good, probably not but if 50, 100 or 10000 people think it's worth doing to show we're not impressed then let them get on with it without treating them like naughty children.
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The thing is, people aren't happy and want some way to vent that. If a protest is what they feel is the best thing then go for it. There's a lot of very condescending posts on this thread making out that anyone who wants to protest or who thinks it's worth doing is embarrassing and worse than the geordies.
Will it do any good, probably not but if 50, 100 or 10000 people think it's worth doing to show we're not impressed then let them get on with it without treating them like naughty children.
Absolutely. Well put.
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Lets face it there will be, maybe, 40-50 people there tops, mainly incoherent from their tumultuous rage! Talksport will cream their cocoa over it, but it will all be forgotten when Chelsea get their new man or Citeh sign the first £100m player! We'll go back to being over looked and in the shadows, where I prefer us to be honest!
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The thing is, people aren't happy and want some way to vent that. If a protest is what they feel is the best thing then go for it. There's a lot of very condescending posts on this thread making out that anyone who wants to protest or who thinks it's worth doing is embarrassing and worse than the geordies.
Will it do any good, probably not but if 50, 100 or 10000 people think it's worth doing to show we're not impressed then let them get on with it without treating them like naughty children.
I can sympathise but people need to think what's best for the club. If the club decide to hire McLeish then it's best for all concerned that we get behind the manager (however wrong we think the decision and the decision making process was)
The Geordies have turned ridiculous protests into an art form and we are in danger of surpassing them tomorrow. Do you honestly think the national media will treat the protester's viewpoint with respect or will they use it as another excuse for a spot of brummie bashing?
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The thing is, people aren't happy and want some way to vent that. If a protest is what they feel is the best thing then go for it. There's a lot of very condescending posts on this thread making out that anyone who wants to protest or who thinks it's worth doing is embarrassing and worse than the geordies.
Will it do any good, probably not but if 50, 100 or 10000 people think it's worth doing to show we're not impressed then let them get on with it without treating them like naughty children.
So, your reasons for protesting are to vent your spleen and to show the club that you're not impressed?
An alternative and adult strategy might be to forget your spleen and grow a pair. Then we could be sure that you're not all naughty children. Oh, and I think you will find that the club probably already have an inkling that you're not impressed.
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The thing is, people aren't happy and want some way to vent that. If a protest is what they feel is the best thing then go for it. There's a lot of very condescending posts on this thread making out that anyone who wants to protest or who thinks it's worth doing is embarrassing and worse than the geordies.
Will it do any good, probably not but if 50, 100 or 10000 people think it's worth doing to show we're not impressed then let them get on with it without treating them like naughty children.
So, your reasons for protesting are to vent your spleen and to show the club that you're not impressed?
An alternative and adult strategy might be to forget your spleen and grow a pair. Then we could be sure that you're not all naughty children. Oh, and I think you will find that the club probably already have an inkling that you're not impressed.
Excellent response - however, its ther rits init
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers for exercising their democratic right to protest.
Unbelievable. :o
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daft to protest before the season's started - he's not going to get sacked before he's played a game and it will probably make Lerner dig his heels in more .just wait for the performances and the league placing and the rest will follow.,
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers..
So you believe we're both tossers? You're half right. If you can't see the embarrassment a protest will bring I can only imagine too much tossing has made you blind.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers..
So you believe we're both tossers? You're half right. If you can't see the embarrassment a protest will bring I can only imagine too much tossing has made you blind.
that's going to go way over his head
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That's it lads, stick it to the man. It's just like Egypt all over again. Bloody leaders eh!
Shame we're not Dundee United, they could call it the Arab summer.
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I have printed off a picture of the "creosote/bedsheet" protest banner from Monday and used some Blutac to stick it to the back of my swivel chair.
Take that General!
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If you don't like it send an e mail- protesting makes you look like stupid fools who the whole football world will laugh at and it makes Aston villa fans look bloody ridiculous ,none of us had mcleish as our 1st choice but it's randys call so let's get on and support our club rather than look like sulky little brats!
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Wouldnt surprise me if some blues fans turn up and it could turn very nasty- stay at home and watch emmerdale, at least there's plenty fit babes to look at then.
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The soul of any football club belongs to the fans and if they are not happy they are entitled to show dissent in whatever way they feel appropriate. Blind loyalty will get you nowhere and only serves to massage the ego of the owners and operators of football clubs, further bolstering their position of superiority.
I won't attend any protest, I'm a bit too old and a bit too cynical, but if fans want to voice their dissatisfaction who am I to criticise?
Rather a backlash than a shrug of the shoulders and meek acceptance or worse still, a sickly hero worship and veneration of the ordinary that Newcastle used to specialise in.
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Best of luck to those who make the effort to turn up for the protest.The other thing i would say is it must take a absolute knobhead to know one! Likewise a tosser to know one.
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I hope we tie it up and get mcleish in and unveiled today long before these idiots turn up to protest and make themselves look ridiculous.
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Oh i forgot a idiot to know a idiot to.
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Any protest is a bit silly in my view. The thing that the owners have got wrong more than anything is being too open and swayed too much by what we want. If they think he is the right man, and I don't believe he is, its their call.
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Ok, here is my take, it could be posted in any one of the numerous threads.
It is the Board’s decision as to who gets the job as manager. I will support that person, whoever it may be, and make my judgement based upon results only.
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That's it lads, stick it to the man. It's just like Egypt all over again. Bloody leaders eh!
Shame we're not Dundee United, they could call it the Arab summer.
It will be known as the 'Aston Spring'.
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Either a few thousand of you do it, or you shouldn't do it at all. In other words, you shouldn't do it at all.
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Well, bollocks to all of you; I'm going to protest against the protest.
Anyone with me?
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Well, bollocks to all of you; I'm going to protest against the protest.
Anyone with me?
Count me in.
I'm ready to administer a John Prescott left hook.
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Just seen sky live at bodymoor and graffiti daubed all around the entrance- villa staff out with Turps trying to clean up- what an embarrassment !
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Protest? What's the point? It won't change anything. If he gets the job then so be it.
I agree.
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Just seen sky live at bodymoor and graffiti daubed all around the entrance- villa staff out with Turps trying to clean up- what an embarrassment !
I agree, it's uncalled for, but i understand the anger behind it, it's an embarrassing appointment and an totally unneccassary one.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers for exercising their democratic right to protest.
Unbelievable. :o
agreed 100%.
McLeish will almost certainly be a disastrous appointment for AVFC, I applaud those who protest.
People are too willing in society generally to tolerate bad decisions from those in authority. Enough here are willing to kiss Randy Lerner's arse and those of his yes men. They might have made many good decisions in charge of Villa but the last management choice wasnt one and Alex Mcleish will be an awful one. Buying Stephen Ireland without a manager and above all else managing a club where 80+% of club turnover was going on staff wages were other really bad efforts. It is the responsibility of supporters to criticise and praise when due. Not turn a blind eye, when the board are on the verge of making a catastrophic appointment for the biggest job in the club.
Also, what does anyone care what the 'london' media think? Repeatedly on the site posters refer to the london media downing the club. Now they seem to be running scared about what Oliver Holt might write tomorrow. Now that is truly small time behaviour.
people have a democratic right to stand up for what is wrong. Appointing Alex McLeish is wrong on every level.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers for exercising their democratic right to protest.
Unbelievable. :o
agreed 100%.
McLeish will almost certainly be a disastrous appointment for AVFC, I applaud those who protest.
People are too willing in society generally to tolerate bad decisions from those in authority. Enough here are willing to kiss Randy Lerner's arse and those of his yes men. They might have made many good decisions in charge of Villa but the last management choice wasnt one and Alex Mcleish will be an awful one. Buying Stephen Ireland without a manager and above all else managing a club where 80+% of club turnover was going on staff wages were other really bad efforts. It is the responsibility of supporters to criticise and praise when due. Not turn a blind eye, when the board are on the verge of making a catastrophic appointment for the biggest job in the club.
Also, what does anyone care what the 'london' media think? Repeatedly on the site posters refer to the london media downing the club. Now they seem to be running scared about what Oliver Holt might write tomorrow. Now that is truly small time behaviour.
people have a democratic right to stand up for what is wrong. Appointing Alex McLeish is wrong on every level.
Villa is not a democracy. Randy Lerner has absolute power to make whatever damn fool decision he wants. As his customer (I assume you are) you have the democratic right to take your money elsewhere, but thats about where your democratic rights as a Villa fan end.
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Just seen sky live at bodymoor and graffiti daubed all around the entrance- villa staff out with Turps trying to clean up- what an embarrassment !
They want to get some Nitromoors, that will shift it.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers for exercising their democratic right to protest.
Unbelievable. :o
agreed 100%.
McLeish will almost certainly be a disastrous appointment for AVFC, I applaud those who protest.
People are too willing in society generally to tolerate bad decisions from those in authority. Enough here are willing to kiss Randy Lerner's arse and those of his yes men. They might have made many good decisions in charge of Villa but the last management choice wasnt one and Alex Mcleish will be an awful one. Buying Stephen Ireland without a manager and above all else managing a club where 80+% of club turnover was going on staff wages were other really bad efforts. It is the responsibility of supporters to criticise and praise when due. Not turn a blind eye, when the board are on the verge of making a catastrophic appointment for the biggest job in the club.
Also, what does anyone care what the 'london' media think? Repeatedly on the site posters refer to the london media downing the club. Now they seem to be running scared about what Oliver Holt might write tomorrow. Now that is truly small time behaviour.
people have a democratic right to stand up for what is wrong. Appointing Alex McLeish is wrong on every level.
Villa is not a democracy. Randy Lerner has absolute power to make whatever damn fool decision he wants. As his customer (I assume you are) you have the democratic right to take your money elsewhere, but thats about where your democratic rights as a Villa fan end.
I thought this thread was about the right of Villa supporters to protest. Legitimate protest is a democratic right.
Yes Lerner owns the club but thousands of fans outside Villa Park protesting against the appointment of Mcleish may change his mind. Steve McClaren by all accounts wasnt considered because of supporter opposition remember.
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Just seen sky live at bodymoor and graffiti daubed all around the entrance- villa staff out with Turps trying to clean up- what an embarrassment !
They want to get some Nitromoors, that will shift it.
I hope they've taken out a full risk assessment and are wearing gloves and eye protection.
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agreed 100%.
McLeish will almost certainly be a disastrous appointment for AVFC, I applaud those who protest.
People are too willing in society generally to tolerate bad decisions from those in authority. Enough here are willing to kiss Randy Lerner's arse and those of his yes men. They might have made many good decisions in charge of Villa but the last management choice wasnt one and Alex Mcleish will be an awful one. Buying Stephen Ireland without a manager and above all else managing a club where 80+% of club turnover was going on staff wages were other really bad efforts. It is the responsibility of supporters to criticise and praise when due. Not turn a blind eye, when the board are on the verge of making a catastrophic appointment for the biggest job in the club.
Also, what does anyone care what the 'london' media think? Repeatedly on the site posters refer to the london media downing the club. Now they seem to be running scared about what Oliver Holt might write tomorrow. Now that is truly small time behaviour.
people have a democratic right to stand up for what is wrong. Appointing Alex McLeish is wrong on every level.
I think you might just be confusing the concept of democratic rights with what you as a customer would prefer to happen. The only right you or anyone else has in these circumstances is to accept the situation or not. If you choose not to, that is your right.
I wonder what someone in Syria would make of your comments right now.
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Red sauce or brown sauce daubed on the walls at Bodymoor Heath?
Whoever it was is not a true Villa fan!
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Good post Brontebilly, you will get lots of abuse for saying it though.
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Red sauce or brown sauce daubed on the walls at Bodymoor Heath?
Whoever it was is not a true Villa fan!
Maybe it was a dirty protest.
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As well as protesting maybe we should all take our shirts off at away games ?
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If there is so many people. Just surround Randy Lerner in the car and everyone should sit down until he made an promise not to appoint him. Ditto for Alex to make him not turn up for interview.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers for exercising their democratic right to protest.
Unbelievable. :o
agreed 100%.
McLeish will almost certainly be a disastrous appointment for AVFC, I applaud those who protest.
People are too willing in society generally to tolerate bad decisions from those in authority. Enough here are willing to kiss Randy Lerner's arse and those of his yes men. They might have made many good decisions in charge of Villa but the last management choice wasnt one and Alex Mcleish will be an awful one. Buying Stephen Ireland without a manager and above all else managing a club where 80+% of club turnover was going on staff wages were other really bad efforts. It is the responsibility of supporters to criticise and praise when due. Not turn a blind eye, when the board are on the verge of making a catastrophic appointment for the biggest job in the club.
Also, what does anyone care what the 'london' media think? Repeatedly on the site posters refer to the london media downing the club. Now they seem to be running scared about what Oliver Holt might write tomorrow. Now that is truly small time behaviour.
people have a democratic right to stand up for what is wrong. Appointing Alex McLeish is wrong on every level.
Well said Billy.
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I'm confused as to the point of the protest. Do people think the board aren't aware of the general feeling about the possible appointment? They've already acknowledged this in a statement and still feel that AM deserves at least an interview so they're hardly gonna look out the window and see 50 odd people (the majority you can bet will be visiting villa park for the first time) and think "oh, it appears the fans may not be happy with us appointing AM".
It won't change anything and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. Let's get the new manager in (even if it is AM), start building towards the forthcoming season and get behind the club
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I'm confused as to the point of the protest. Do people think the board aren't aware of the general feeling about the possible appointment? They've already acknowledged this in a statement and still feel that AM deserves at least an interview so they're hardly gonna look out the window and see 50 odd people (the majority you can bet will be visiting villa park for the first time) and think "oh, it appears the fans may not be happy with us appointing AM".
It won't change anything and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. Let's get the new manager in (even if it is AM), start building towards the forthcoming season and get behind the club
What makes you think this thread is for sensible comments?
Never mind that, power to the people, it's our democratic right.....
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You wake up late for school - man you don't wanna go
You ask you mom, "Please?" - but she still says, "No!"
You missed two classes - and no homework
But your teacher preaches class like you're some kind of jerk
You gotta fight for your right to moan
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I personally dont see the point in this protest. They will be appointing AM regardless of what the fans think. they have made it pretty clear in their statement.
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Chris, thats the second time you've put a song in my bloody head, the other day it was the specials, now the beastie boys! You have a lot to answer for! ;D
In regards to this, Damaging Aston Villa property is NEVER ok. Protest if you want but that is too much in my opinion
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Oh well at least everything else in society must be hunky dory if all these people are threatening to protest about the appointment of a football manager.
Do me a favour though if you're going tonight - when someone from national media puts a mike in front of you and asks why you're protesting and what your opinions are, just pause for a second and think of the thousands of people watching on TV waiting to laugh their socks off at you, and don't make yourself look even more of a prize prat! At least try and come out with a half-intelligent response to justify your actions.
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Chris, thats the second time you've put a song in my bloody head, the other day it was the specials, now the beastie boys! You have a lot to answer for! ;D
It's early days.
He'll be looking to shoehorn S-S-single bed by Fox in next.
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I personally dont see the point in this protest. They will be appointing AM regardless of what the fans think. they have made it pretty clear in their statement.
Assuming he is appointed today, those going to demonstrate their democratic rights could instead give McLeish a nice, warm welcome to Aston Villa, similar to the one MON got on his arrival.
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Yes but instead of waving and cheering they will be trying to shake the shit out of everyone inside. They better come with bullet proof windows
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Yes but instead of waving and cheering they will be trying to shake the shit out of everyone inside. They better come with bullet proof windows
Bullet proof windows! Think it's going to turn nasty, Phil?
For Chris Smith..
When they kick at your car door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or the trigger of your gun?
You can shush us
You can boo us
Even shout nasty things to us
But you'll have to answer to
Oh, oh, the guns of B6
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A 6PM protest is no good to me. My opinion doesn't get home from work till quarter past. Also, banners are one thing but it wasn't great to turn on the TV this morning and see the grafitti.
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I received another email from Villa this morning offering me an "Aston villa Credit Card".
At the bottom of the email is an unsubscribe button. If enough people use that (it takes one click to unsubscribe when you click through), they might take notice. These boys place real value on their marketing lists.
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I guess the most powerful way the fans can make their statement is to vote with their feet. Are we going to have a poll to see how many are going to carry through their threat to not renew/send their season ticket back?
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The leader of the McLeish Protest has been revealed. She's going to sthcweem and sthcweem until she's sick apparently.
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_04/004spoiltbrat_468x721.jpg)
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Also, banners are one thing but it wasn't great to turn on the TV this morning and see the grafitti.
'Bluenose scum not welcome' was discovered on a wall at their Bodymoor Heath training ground on Wednesday morning.
Classy.
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Oh well at least everything else in society must be hunky dory if all these people are threatening to protest about the appointment of a football manager.
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Yup. The last time I heard "democratic right" it was from whingers about smoking in pubs. They'd be banging on the previous day about their disgust at student demos etc.
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Can't see what they're planning to achieve frankly. If they turn up and protest then the board are squeezed even further into a corner because even if they decide they don't want him, the papers will be full off "Fan's force weak board into U-turn" headlines - i mean Mclaren didn't even get approached and apparently we lost him the gig. Obviously if its just some futile "well you'll appoint him anyway but we're not happy" gesture then fair enough.
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I guess the most powerful way the fans can make their statement is to vote with their feet. Are we going to have a poll to see how many are going to carry through their threat to not renew/send their season ticket back?
It would be interesting to look back through the "Gift that keeps on Giving" thread to see whether the people who have mocked Small Heath over the last few years for their pitifully low attendances are the same people who now say they'll do exactly the same thing and stop coming down the Villa if we end up with the manager they had!
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The leader of the McLeish Protest has been revealed. She's going to sthcweem and sthcweem until she's sick apparently.
I was trying to find a Youtube clip of the two blokes on Modern Family when they get into a panic. Two excellent characters. But life is too short.
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'Bluenose scum not welcome' was discovered on a wall at their Bodymoor Heath training ground on Wednesday morning.
Classy
They should have sprayed "Cock, Pish McLeish"
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'Bluenose scum not welcome' was discovered on a wall at their Bodymoor Heath training ground on Wednesday morning.
Classy
They should have sprayed "Cock, Pish McLeish"
That made me laugh out loud whilst scoffing my chicken and stuffing sarnie. Very good.
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They should have sprayed "Cock, Pish McLeish"
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That guy's just doing a temporary fix- Cook, Bish....
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A 6PM protest is no good to me. My opinion doesn't get home from work till quarter past. Also, banners are one thing but it wasn't great to turn on the TV this morning and see the grafitti.
any Villa "fan" spraying graffiti on our own property irrespective of their views on McLeish is not only a complete idiot, but an utter, utter wanker.
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It really is about time some of you realised that this is just a football team, if your hobby (and that is what it is no matter what anyone, even Bill Shankly, says) is winding you up to such an extent that you feel the need to protest against a manager that hasn't even been appointed, vandalise club property, write nonsensical banners or spout bollocks on a message board that makes you sound like a frothing lunatic then I'd advise you to get a new hobby.
Try needlepoint, or walking through Stapely Water Gardens (but take a flask).
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'Bluenose scum not welcome' was discovered on a wall at their Bodymoor Heath training ground on Wednesday morning.
Classy
They should have sprayed "Cock, Pish McLeish"
Smell my cheese you mutha.
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It really is about time some of you realised that this is just a football team, if your hobby (and that is what it is no matter what anyone, even Bill Shankly, says) is winding you up to such an extent that you feel the need to protest against a manager that hasn't even been appointed, vandalise club property, write nonsensical banners or spout bollocks on a message board that makes you sound like a frothing lunatic then I'd advise you to get a new hobby.
Try needlepoint, or walking through Stapely Water Gardens (but take a flask).
I love the club, and I'm obsessed with keeping up to date with everything Villa related. But McLeish didn't beat up my mum. We all want Villa to do well, but some of the stuff on here is unreal. Right now it is a media feeding frenzy, and listening to Pat Murphy yesterday, you could hear him literally frothing at the mouth by some of the gold that his come his way in the last few days.
Every fan has a right to air their views about the club, but the personal stuff and now the graffiti just makes all of us look like complete morons. The media won't position it as some Villa fans, it will generalised and the idiots will represent all of us.
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Unless several thousand turn up it would be a complete waste of time. I have no problem with those who choose to protest though.
I'm not McCleish's biggest fan, but didn't Peter Withe play for the Blose a few years before he signed for us? That one turned out ok......
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Let's hope that this isn't the start of things to come. By all means if you want to protest, do it in a civilised manner but don't cause criminal damage.
I'd like to say on behalf of all Villa fans "We're ashamed of you".
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Let's hope that the majority of the protestors are of the 'No to McLeish' placard variety as opposed to the 'Bluenose scum' aerosol type. Unfortunately, whilst people have a right to peaceful protest, I suspect this will be like a magnet to the latter. Sky are already hyping their live coverage of the event. I was embarassed by the grafitti when I saw it on TV this morning, tonight could be potentially shameful.
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Not proud of it at all.
I used to laugh at the barcodes for this type of thing, seems to be catching on quite well down VP the last few years.
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I wonder how many of the 15,000 who have signed the facebook page will actually bother turning up at villa park tonight?
Will be interesting to see.
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Let's hope that this isn't the start of things to come. By all means if you want to protest, do it in a civilised manner but don't cause criminal damage.
I'd like to say on behalf of all Villa fans "We're ashamed of you".
Ashamed with people because they want to protest a very poor decision involving something many tens of thousands of people invest a lot of time, money and emotion into?
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Let's hope that the majority of the protestors are of the 'No to McLeish' placard variety as opposed to the 'Bluenose scum' aerosol type. Unfortunately, whilst people have a right to peaceful protest, I suspect this will be like a magnet to the latter. Sky are already hyping their live coverage of the event. I was embarassed by the grafitti when I saw it on TV this morning, tonight could be potentially shameful.
Seriously ? live coverage ??
I will not be protesting tonight as I finish around 6.30pm and then the England U21's are on
UTV
The Doc
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I received another email from Villa this morning offering me an "Aston villa Credit Card".
At the bottom of the email is an unsubscribe button. If enough people use that (it takes one click to unsubscribe when you click through), they might take notice. These boys place real value on their marketing lists.
Done
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It really is about time some of you realised that this is just a football team, if your hobby (and that is what it is no matter what anyone, even Bill Shankly, says) is winding you up to such an extent that you feel the need to protest against a manager that hasn't even been appointed, vandalise club property, write nonsensical banners or spout bollocks on a message board that makes you sound like a frothing lunatic then I'd advise you to get a new hobby.
Try needlepoint, or walking through Stapely Water Gardens (but take a flask).
A million times this.
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I received another email from Villa this morning offering me an "Aston villa Credit Card".
At the bottom of the email is an unsubscribe button. If enough people use that (it takes one click to unsubscribe when you click through), they might take notice. These boys place real value on their marketing lists.
Done
Does this mean you will be dropping the "ALWAYS" part of your name? (Or maybe just the "LWAYS"?)
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I received another email from Villa this morning offering me an "Aston villa Credit Card".
At the bottom of the email is an unsubscribe button. If enough people use that (it takes one click to unsubscribe when you click through), they might take notice. These boys place real value on their marketing lists.
Done
Does this mean you will be dropping the "ALWAYS" part of your name? (Or maybe just the "LWAYS"?)
Neither,just unsubscribing from their e-mails,they clog up my inbox
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I'd like to say on behalf of all Villa fans "We're ashamed of you".
Should we say that to Big eck as he walks to the dug-out, or at half time on his way back?
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I received another email from Villa this morning offering me an "Aston villa Credit Card".
At the bottom of the email is an unsubscribe button. If enough people use that (it takes one click to unsubscribe when you click through), they might take notice. These boys place real value on their marketing lists.
Done
Does this mean you will be dropping the "ALWAYS" part of your name? (Or maybe just the "LWAYS"?)
Neither,just unsubscribing from their e-mails,they clog up my inbox
Good idea, don't know where they all come from.
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Like all protests at Villa, a maximum of 100 will turn up and be made to look like utter tits in front of the media. As someone who’s been involved with both AVISA and The Trust and knows the difficulty in getting Villa fans to do anything I can safety say that it will go off like a damp fart. As Villa fans we will do what we always have done and simply stay away in our droves. That’s what we did under Gregory, that’s what was happening under DOL and this is what will happen once more.
The fans that froth at the mouth are a small and vocal, but nonetheless small minority. Most Villa fans will as Dave Cooper said realise that there’s more to life than getting wound up about their hobby, because as most of us know there’s fu** all we can do about it.
I’ve always believed that swathes of empty seats are a far more potent display than torch burning protests down the Witton Lane and no protest needs to be organised for this to happen because as I suspect it will happen automatically when our matchday footfall drops off.
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers..
So you believe we're both tossers? You're half right. If you can't see the embarrassment a protest will bring I can only imagine too much tossing has made you blind.
that's going to go way over his head
Interesting how you cut you nicely edited that to make it seem that way.
Oh and TV, just sod off will you pal.
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On SSN. There's between and dozen and 20 there.
One interviewed is a steward, not bothered that he could lose his job.
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What a bunch of pricks.
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Wow that's a pretty pathetic protest.
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What is this "it's going to make us look silly" "we'll be an embarrassment" bullshit? Who are we going to look silly to? Who are the protesters embarrassing us infront of? Should we just sit back and let that talentless shite get the job and not say or do anything because of how we'll look infront of god knows who.
I'd be at the protest tonight but have something i can't avoid, what really gets me angry is those who'll whinge on messageboards and in pubs about the pending appointment but haven't done fuck all about it because of how it would be perceived!
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That will have sent out a message that Randy cannot ignore.
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Thank GOD for the second guy they interviewed. The steward was an idiot. The second fella made the point we all want to. He just isn't very good, his record is bad and his football is bad.
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On SSN. There's between and dozen and 20 there.
One interviewed is a steward, not bothered that he could lose his job.
That many already! And still an hour to go. They could get as many as - oh, maybe 30 - that'll show those bastards on the board, and the world can see how classy we are. Put Newcastle fans in the shade
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For the record, I'm sure it stated it starts at 6. So we'll see.
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If you're gonna do a protest don't take such a small amount of protesters. What's the point of that?
Atleast a couple of them tried there best to explain why they don't want him.
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For the record, I'm sure it stated it starts at 6. So we'll see.
To be honest that's true. I had a bit of a surf around other messageboards earlier and the numbers ranged from 361 on Vital Villa (bit precise!) to 500 on Viilla Talk. We shall see
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That will have sent out a message that Randy cannot ignore.
I imagine that Randy will mobilize one steward to deal with it. The steward will say, "now, now lads, calm down a bit. Now off you go, and make sure you've renewed your season ticket and visited the club shop before heading home"
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Did that Steward say he was a beloved Aston Villa fan?
Maybe we'll make a statue for him.
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Complete and utter idiocy.
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All that bullshit about a protest being embarrassing. Thousands will turn up and make their point known... Oh
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What a bunch of total protesters- the joke is well and truly on them .
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For the record, I'm sure it stated it starts at 6. So we'll see.
To be honest that's true. I had a bit of a surf around other messageboards earlier and the numbers ranged from 361 on Vital Villa (bit precise!) to 500 on Viilla Talk. We shall see
If 500 people say they're going to turn up to anything you're lucky if you get fifty.
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What a bunch of total twats- the joke is well and truly on them .
Twats for feeling passionate enough to get off their backsides and make their feelings known?
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What a bunch of total twats- the joke is well and truly on them .
A bit harsh, misguided and a bit cringeworthy I'd say.
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It's an ugly mob.
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It's an ugly mob.
Why who do they look like? Fist Face?
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What a bunch of total twats- the joke is well and truly on them .
Twats for feeling passionate enough to get off their backsides and make their feelings known?
be careful what you say as I got banned from villa talk for saying similar today
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Actually it's not that bad yet. At least it shows we've got a lot less idiots than some clubs.
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True maybe bit too harsh - those gentlemen protesting look as though they have had a wasted journey !
My apology for any previous offence caused .
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150 there now according to guy heading there on train
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I'd imagine most have to get changed after school before they are allowed to go there.
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To call them "twats" is both insulting and condescening.
You do not have to pass a good looking test (i should know) or 11+ to be a villa fan.
They may be misguided in thinking that their actions will make a difference, but if they spent the bus fare to get there, it shows they care.
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Already modified and I accept your point steamer .
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I can't say i've got a problem with what they're doing to be honest. As long as it dose'nt get out of hand and it's a sensible protest, then let them get on with it.
They're only saying what the majority of people on here have been saying but they're just going the extra mile and if they feel that strongly about it,then that's fine by me.
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What they doing? Singing?
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What they doing? Singing?
They're sat in the North Stand car park, cross legged in a circle, in the middle of which Stilyan Petrov is playing an accoustic guitar, as they all sing along to "We Shall Overcome"
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Can we change the thread title to 'Drama Queens of the World - Unite!'.
Tossers.
Tossers are people who go on message boards and insult other fans by calling them tossers..
So you believe we're both tossers? You're half right. If you can't see the embarrassment a protest will bring I can only imagine too much tossing has made you blind.
that's going to go way over his head
Interesting how you cut you nicely edited that to make it seem that way.
Oh and TV, just sod off will you pal.
Less of that, please.
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Guys, guys!
Look at us! Squabbling, bickering .. like children! We never used to be like this!
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It would be hilarious next time they go back and get interviewed and there is about 500 there.
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Guys, guys!
Look at us! Squabbling, bickering .. like children! We never used to be like this!
Yes we did.
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Guys, guys!
Look at us! Squabbling, bickering .. like children! We never used to be like this!
Yes we did.
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Fuck off did we.
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Fair point clampy, I was worried it may turn nasty and get out of hand but so far it seems to be ok.
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Guys, guys!
Look at us! Squabbling, bickering .. like children! We never used to be like this!
if it wasn't like this I don't think I'd come on here. My Bunsen burner is permanently on ready for my next fix.
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Guys, guys!
Look at us! Squabbling, bickering .. like children! We never used to be like this!
Yes we have....
He's right Rick, we've always been like this.
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Guys, guys!
Look at us! Squabbling, bickering .. like children! We never used to be like this!
Yes we have....
He's right Rick, we've always been like this.
Well ...yes ...I know, but ... But that's just exactly my point! Nothing ever changes, nothing ever happens to us!
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Well they're back there now and there are about, hang on let me count, a hundred or so.
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Fuck off did we.
Splitter.
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Just home from work, does anyone know what the blues fans protest outside the Villa shop in town is all about? Pro or anti our crazy recruitment policy?
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Fuck off did we.
Splitter.
O'Neill lover.
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The guy in the away shirt and glasses is exactly how I have pictured wikivilla as being like - I wonder if it is him?
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There's quite a few more there now.
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Just home from work, does anyone know what the blues fans protest outside the Villa shop in town is all about? Pro or anti our crazy recruitment policy?
They want a row and were looking for Villa Park.
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Just home from work, does anyone know what the blues fans protest outside the Villa shop in town is all about? Pro or anti our crazy recruitment policy?
No one would tell them where Sherlock Street is.
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The three Dogshitters that I know never liked Fucking Eck from virtually the word go, they were forever moaning about his sterile football.
I find it hard to understand why any of them would mourn his leaving.
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Just home from work, does anyone know what the blues fans protest outside the Villa shop in town is all about? Pro or anti our crazy recruitment policy?
They've come out in solidarity with us at the lateness of our kit release every year.
It's an expression of the newfound unity between the two sets of fans.
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Just seen them on Central News. Presumably the other 14,500 are waiting for Midlands Today to start before they turn up.
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Now that's fighting talk
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What's with the guy saying he will put all his villa stuff in a black bag and burn it- ridiculous!
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Is there a protest outside villa shop?
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tbf atleast about 200 turned up.
The guy in the black Villa jacket spoke well and cited the reasons we don't want McLeish as manager. I agree, anyone could win a trophy with Rangers, it really isn't that hard.
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Watching this unfold from the home in Essex. Can't wait to have the piss ripped out of me tonight. Do thesr really reflect the views of all villa fans. Im not happy about it, but the guy needs a chance. Why do sky always interview the missing links...
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Outside the Holte End
http://ow.ly/i/cZe8
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What's with the guy saying he will put all his villa stuff in a black bag and burn it- ridiculous!
All it needs now is for McLeish to be appointed and say he's bigger than Jesus Christ.
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tbf atleast about 200 turned up.
The guy in the black Villa jacket spoke well and cited the reasons we don't want McLeish as manager. I agree, anyone could win a trophy with Rangers, it really isn't that hard.
Even O'Neill could win trophies in Scotland ;D
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What's with the guy saying he will put all his villa stuff in a black bag and burn it- ridiculous!
All it needs now is for McLeish to be appointed and say he's bigger than Jesus Christ.
He is he's 6ft 2ins. !
Mcleish is not the new Lennon.
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Outside the Holte End
http://ow.ly/i/cZe8
Theres one guy to the right of the pic that actually looks like he's about to jump.
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He's just a very naughty boy.
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Apparently 14,000 signed the petition. Where are they?
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Sat at their keyboard?
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If Doug was there, he'd have opened up the Holte Suite.
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Fair few there
Outside the Holte End
http://ow.ly/i/cZe8
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I didn't like the guy who climbed to the top of the gates and beckoned people on -it seems the rest backed away and left him to it- ugly!
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Outside the Holte End
http://ow.ly/i/cZe8
That's quite a turnout really.
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http://twitpic.com/5byyv2
About 500 or so there now. I think that's a decent turnout. But not sure where this leaves us. We either appoint Mcleish amidst an extremely difficult environment, or the board return to the drawing board and God knows who would be next hope.
You'd hope Hughes,but I suspect bridges are burned there. I really have no idea where we'd go if Mcleish was the lead candidate. Ray Wilkins? Ranieri?
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Outside the Holte End
http://ow.ly/i/cZe8
That's actually me.
I said I'll jump off the top of the Holte End. I think jumping off the top is just a bit too daunting now.
Theres one guy to the right of the pic that actually looks like he's about to jump.
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Lerner would look ridiculous if he didn't appoint mcleish now , it would look like the fans run the club.
I find it strange we put out thst statement last night, we never put any statements out last time about interviews and I would imagine Lerner has spoken to mcleish before last night and must be pretty sure it's a done deal.
If not why cause such uproar when he could have interviewed him with nobody knowing?
I'd expect confirmation could come tonight or tomorrow but cannot see it being anyone else after all this hassle.
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All this negative media is killing us, jesus. SSN is painful to watch.
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http://twitpic.com/5byyv2
About 500 or so there now. I think that's a decent turnout. But not sure where this leaves us. We either appoint Mcleish amidst an extremely difficult environment, or the board return to the drawing board and God knows who would be next hope.
You'd hope Hughes,but I suspect bridges are burned there. I really have no idea where we'd go if Mcleish was the lead candidate. Ray Wilkins? Ranieri?
I just hope Hughes isn't already on his way to Chelsea. Sadly Chelsea have not appointed anyone yet either so he might be.
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Lerner would look ridiculous if he didn't appoint mcleish now , it would look like the fans run the club.
I find it strange we put out thst statement last night, we never put any statements out last time about interviews and I would imagine Lerner has spoken to mcleish before last night and must be pretty sure it's a done deal.
If not why cause such uproar when he could have interviewed him with nobody knowing?
I'd expect confirmation could come tonight or tomorrow but cannot see it being anyone else after all this hassle.
He will look more ridiculous if he does appoint him to be honest,however I agree that it looks pretty much a done deal.The press have been right all along why would they be wrong now ?
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Lerner would look ridiculous if he didn't appoint mcleish now , it would look like the fans run the club.
I'd prefer to see it as he's come to his senses, listened to the supporters, the paying customers, and realised what an absolutely arse-wipingly bad appointment it is.
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Sky saying productive talks between randy and mcleish and they are meeting again tonight.
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"Go back to Scotland, go and manage Kilmarnock or something"
Haha
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Lerner would indeed look a bit daft, and that's because they've painted themselves into a corner.
I'd rather he looked a bit daft now than incredibly daft come next May, mind.
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Lerner would look ridiculous if he didn't appoint mcleish now , it would look like the fans run the club.
I find it strange we put out thst statement last night, we never put any statements out last time about interviews and I would imagine Lerner has spoken to mcleish before last night and must be pretty sure it's a done deal.
If not why cause such uproar when he could have interviewed him with nobody knowing?
I'd expect confirmation could come tonight or tomorrow but cannot see it being anyone else after all this hassle.
The press have been right all along why would they be wrong now ?
Er... because actually they've been wrong all along?
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Lerner would look ridiculous if he didn't appoint mcleish now , it would look like the fans run the club.
I find it strange we put out thst statement last night, we never put any statements out last time about interviews and I would imagine Lerner has spoken to mcleish before last night and must be pretty sure it's a done deal.
If not why cause such uproar when he could have interviewed him with nobody knowing?
I'd expect confirmation could come tonight or tomorrow but cannot see it being anyone else after all this hassle.
The press have been right all along why would they be wrong now ?
Er... because actually they've been wrong all along?
Not regarding McLeish
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"Go back to Scotland, go and manage Kilmarnock or something"
Haha
Don't forget the last bit: "You're useless".
Langley, aka The General. (Not that one).
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He'd get a lot of respect off the fans if he did pull the plug on the deal, but it's not going to happen by the sound of it.
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Lerner would look ridiculous if he didn't appoint mcleish now , it would look like the fans run the club.
I find it strange we put out thst statement last night, we never put any statements out last time about interviews and I would imagine Lerner has spoken to mcleish before last night and must be pretty sure it's a done deal.
If not why cause such uproar when he could have interviewed him with nobody knowing?
I'd expect confirmation could come tonight or tomorrow but cannot see it being anyone else after all this hassle.
The press have been right all along why would they be wrong now ?
Er... because actually they've been wrong all along?
Not regarding McLeish
They usually get the date right too.
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It's gonna be very pricey to sign AM then sack him and sign another.
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Lerner would indeed look a bit daft, and that's because they've painted themselves into a corner.
I'd rather he looked a bit daft now than incredibly daft come next May, mind.
I am praying if he is our manager we are the ones looking daft next May, but I don't think we will be.
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What's happening? More turned up?
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Impressive protest. On that picture, there's a bloke at the back with a placard that reads, simply, "No." He can use that again and again. On the back it probably says: "Down with this sort of thing."
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Impressive protest. On that picture, there's a bloke at the back with a placard that reads, simply, "No." He can use that again and again. On the back it probably says: "Down with this sort of thing."
"Careful now"
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Impressive protest. On that picture, there's a bloke at the back with a placard that reads, simply, "No." He can use that again and again. On the back it probably says: "Down with this sort of thing."
"Careful now"
"Won't somebody please think of the children!"
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Impressive protest. On that picture, there's a bloke at the back with a placard that reads, simply, "No." He can use that again and again. On the back it probably says: "Down with this sort of thing."
Careful now!
I so wish someone had turned up with a placard with that on.
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'Iron my shirts!'
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Don't beat yourself up. My anorak like obsession with Father Ted gave me an unfair advantage.
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(http://data.whicdn.com/images/9334534/funny-protest-sign-angry_thumb.jpg?1304205709)
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'Our other Manager is Carlos Ancelotti'
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'Iron my shirts!'
I could look at this picture every day and not grow tired of it.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/envenomed599/iron_my_shirt.jpg)
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Smashed thru the gates...
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/322460423.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1308162447&Signature=tKuShwaR%2Bqf%2Fg9G0Dhur75spt3s%3D)
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The asian guy on Central News made some good points and articulated them well.
His message to Randy was "You've built a legacy - build on it - don't destroy it".
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Smashed thru the gates...
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/322460423.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1308162447&Signature=tKuShwaR%2Bqf%2Fg9G0Dhur75spt3s%3D)
You are Richard Keys and I claim my £5.
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(http://data.whicdn.com/images/9334534/funny-protest-sign-angry_thumb.jpg?1304205709)
I like that one.
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'Our other Manager is Carlos Ancelotti'
Brilliant !!
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TGIUrZlKkrI/AAAAAAAAcHg/2L-Ud7Uh-NU/s1600/Powerful+Protest+Signs14.jpg)
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The asian guy on Central News made some good points and articulated them well.
His message to Randy was "You've built a legacy - build on it - don't destroy it".
Yea, him and one or two others made really good points, none of this nonsense about how we don't want him because he managed small heath.
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The point has been made really, further clues for the board will come with the likely plummet in revenue and flurry of transfer requests that pop up in the in-box.
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I'm sure Randy will have been awared of thousand of protesters tresspassing into his stadium. I'm sure he's delighted...
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I cant see how Randy can go ahead with appointing him when the fans are so against it,he must be mad!!
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The point has been made really, further clues for the board will come with the likely plummet in revenue and flurry of transfer requests that pop up in the in-box.
Good. I am sick of pandering to footballers.
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(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/D/u/2/homosexuals-are-gay.jpg)
Hope that didnt cross the line!
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You have made your point - now let the people who want to stay away do so and let the people who want to support the club and manager do so- I hope Alex does well and some people will be ready to say hey he's nowhere near as bad as we thought.
Please give him a chance - if it goes wrong he will go anyway !
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CBAV06 - I'm not sure of the relevance of that pic but I genuinely laughed out loud! Welcome relief
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Red sauce or brown sauce daubed on the walls at Bodymoor Heath?
Shame it wasn't no sauce at all.
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CBAV06 - I'm not sure of the relevance of that pic but I genuinely laughed out loud! Welcome relief
Glad someone got the point :D
To be fair I think protesters have a right to protest, and people have a right to disagree about them protesting...I'm just making light of it for people's amusement. He took the Blues down twice, or he brought them up once and won them a cup...it is what it is.
On to the smiles...
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2780/slide_2780_38635_large.jpg) (As with the previous, no offense to anyone intended!)
Hope more people can laugh!
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Breaking through our own gates... sit down protests stopping traffic..
Jesus christ, you would think Lerner is killing kittens, stabbing grandmothers and renaming the stadium after Hodge.
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Don't know if its been mentioned anywhere cus I haven't looked through the thread. But it seems we broke down the gates in the north stand car park
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Breaking through our own gates... sit down protests stopping traffic..
Jesus christ, you would think Lerner is killing kittens, stabbing grandmothers and renaming the stadium after Hodge.
No! It's worse than that! ;-)
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Just in case no one knows, we've broken the gates to the North Stand car park.
Why didn't Gareth Barry...
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You have made your point - now let the people who want to stay away do so and let the people who want to support the club and manager do so- I hope Alex does well and some people will be ready to say hey he's nowhere near as bad as we thought.
Please give him a chance - if it goes wrong he will go anyway !
He will be given chance because we all want Villa to succeed. People aren't angry at Mcleish, infact there have been many comments about how decent a guy he is. I grew up supporting Villa under Doug so supporting the team 100% whilst being vocally anti the board comes naturally.
If it goes wrong (which his record points to) it will be very costly to our club indeed and is not worth the risk. Alot of damage has already been done and Randy should back out while he's got the chance.
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Breaking through our own gates... sit down protests stopping traffic..
Jesus christ, you would think Lerner is killing kittens, stabbing grandmothers and renaming the stadium after Hodge.
it's quite pathetic isn't it? It's a very sad day for our club when so called fans vandalise club property over the appointment of a manager. So, so stupid.
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Hodge Park (http://www.hodgeparkgolf.com/)
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Is that the real Mysteryman on Twitter?
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Cretins.
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You have made your point - now let the people who want to stay away do so and let the people who want to support the club and manager do so- I hope Alex does well and some people will be ready to say hey he's nowhere near as bad as we thought.
Please give him a chance - if it goes wrong he will go anyway !
He will be given chance because we all want Villa to succeed. People aren't angry at Mcleish, infact there have been many comments about how decent a guy he is. I grew up supporting Villa under Doug so supporting the team 100% whilst being vocally anti the board comes naturally.
If it goes wrong (which his record points to) it will be very costly to our club indeed and is not worth the risk. Alot of damage has already been done and Randy should back out while he's got the chance.
If he does back out now, what manager will want to work for a chairman who sacks them on the whim of the fans. I would not want a Chairman who bases important decisions on what the fans want. We need strong leadership and in this instance Randy seems to be supplying it!
If Randy feels he is the man he HAS to appoint McLeish just as us fans should get behind the team.
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If the situation was reversed and it was blues fans doing this we would be pissing ourselves at them.
But it's not - it's them pissing themselves at us (not just the people 'protesting' but the whole club)
and that should tell the board all they need to know
I am now resigned to McLeish being appointed by Lerner - as I genuinely don't think that he would 'back down' again on a managerial appointment. I wish now people had kept silent when McLaren was in the frame.
This is a very sad day for the club - all round
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To be honest if I was randy I'd seriously think about selling up and I wouldn't give a toss who I sold it too- I feel so sorry for randy - he is a good chairman and doesn't deserve this, he deserves a club where he's treated much better than this , we don't deserve him!
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I hope everyone trespassing and causing damage are banned from villa park and charged .
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If the situation was reversed and it was blues fans doing this we would be pissing ourselves at them.
But it's not - it's them pissing themselves at us (not just the people 'protesting' but the whole club)
and that should tell the board all they need to know
I am now resigned to McLeish being appointed by Lerner - as I genuinely don't think that he would 'back down' again on a managerial appointment. I wish now people had kept silent when McLaren was in the frame.
This is a very sad day for the club - all round
I have a feeling more of the laughing will be to do with the protest. Shocking behaviour from our fans and were a laughing stock to the country now
I'm embarressed to be associated to villa for the 1st time in my life. And its due to the fans :(
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To be honest if I was randy I'd seriously think about selling up and I wouldn't give a toss who I sold it too- I feel so sorry for randy - he is a good chairman and doesn't deserve this, he deserves a club where he's treated much better than this , we don't deserve him!
I am pretty sure he has a VERY thick skin, he gets this stuff in Cleveland too. I believe he stated in the past he just pays the bills and hires people that know football to run the Browns and Villa. So I am sure he is hearing the message...even if it is mixed.
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You have made your point - now let the people who want to stay away do so and let the people who want to support the club and manager do so- I hope Alex does well and some people will be ready to say hey he's nowhere near as bad as we thought.
Please give him a chance - if it goes wrong he will go anyway !
He will be given chance because we all want Villa to succeed. People aren't angry at Mcleish, infact there have been many comments about how decent a guy he is. I grew up supporting Villa under Doug so supporting the team 100% whilst being vocally anti the board comes naturally.
If it goes wrong (which his record points to) it will be very costly to our club indeed and is not worth the risk. Alot of damage has already been done and Randy should back out while he's got the chance.
If he does back out now, what manager will want to work for a chairman who sacks them on the whim of the fans. I would not want a Chairman who bases important decisions on what the fans want. We need strong leadership and in this instance Randy seems to be supplying it!
If Randy feels he is the man he HAS to appoint McLeish just as us fans should get behind the team.
I don't believe it is what the fans want, it what the club needs. Good leadership doesn't mean going headfirst into a shitstorm, good leadership can be knowing when you are wrong.
There could well be decent, strong minded managers out there willing to take on the challenge, and they'd arrive with the fans backing (the same ones that run the club). Besides, Mcleish doesn't seem to have been put off by the fans outrage, some managers just like a challenge.
Anyway, what player would want to sign for a manager who the fans are against from the start?
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Totally agree alexpayne, tonight also for the 1st time in my life I am embarrassed and ashamed to be a fan of Aston villa , and it is nothing to do with randy or mcleish that makes me feel this way, it's the shameful and disgusting scenes at villa park from so called fans.
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Totally agree alexpayne, tonight also for the 1st time in my life I am embarrassed and ashamed to be a fan of Aston villa , and it is nothing to do with randy or mcleish that makes me feel this way, it's the shameful and disgusting scenes at villa park from so called fans.
I'm proud to be a Villa fan. I'm just not very proud of the actions of a small minority.
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We're classy we are.
Anyone from H&V there?
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I stopped by, impressive numbers, didn't see any trouble, it was all good natured and civil from what I saw.
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I dont see any other outcome than Big Eck being our boss now, like someone said it makes Randy look naff now if he backs down every time the fans throw a paddy.
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Totally agree alexpayne, tonight also for the 1st time in my life I am embarrassed and ashamed to be a fan of Aston villa , and it is nothing to do with randy or mcleish that makes me feel this way, it's the shameful and disgusting scenes at villa park from so called fans.
Totally agree.
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It is ok to be ashamed of certain players, Ireland, Dunney at times last season, Warnock, Alpay, Hodge.
Or ashamed of the actions of a manager DOL and the remarks he made. Sometimes a section of the fans might embarrass you but never ever feel ashamed of supporting Aston Villa.
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Still the pride of Birmingham.
Should've gone for McClaren.
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A mate of mine went and he's said it was fairly good natured and a decent turn out.
Fans are just disapointed at the quality of manager we've approached, first Martinez and now Mccleish, who's taken the same club down twice. It's not very ambitious and it just sends out negative signals to fans.
Let's put it this way, if all of us on here had written a list of 10 managers who they thought would have been good appointments, i doubt McCleish would have been on many of them.
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Totally agree alexpayne, tonight also for the 1st time in my life I am embarrassed and ashamed to be a fan of Aston villa , and it is nothing to do with randy or mcleish that makes me feel this way, it's the shameful and disgusting scenes at villa park from so called fans.
I'm proud to be a Villa fan. I'm just not very proud of the actions of a small minority.
That's pretty much how I feel better worded! Cheers leej
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TimothyAbraham Timothy Abraham
All at pains to say it wasn NOT just about the fact McLeish was coming from Blues. It was that they felt he wasn't good enough for #AVFC
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TimothyAbraham Timothy Abraham
Home from the protest now..Every #AVFC fan I spoke to tonight was fiercely passionate about their club and spoke well on the matter.
Surely not. They're all embarrasing tossers aren't they.
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Looked like there was more than the 50 some of the knowalls on here told us there would be.
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A few thousand there it seems.
Tbh, everyone is entitled to free speech, where they stepped over the line is when they quite litterally stepped over the line and went thru the gates. Do your protest, just don't invade the stadium when they locked the gates.
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Piss off. To all those protesting, you are an embarrasment. It won't make me popular but tough shit. Spoiled bastards making us look like Newcastle. Brought on themselves by a board that have been too open and pandered to fans wishes too much I admit, but stupid nonetheless.
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A few thousand there it seems.
Tbh, everyone is entitled to free speech, where they stepped over the line is when they quite litterally stepped over the line and went thru the gates. Do your protest, just don't invade the stadium when they locked the gates.
gates weren't locked lets stick to facts, yeah?
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Piss off. To all those protesting, you are an embarrasment. It won't make me popular but tough shit. Spoiled bastards making us look like Newcastle. Brought on themselves by a board that have been too open and pandered to fans wishes too much I admit, but stupid nonetheless.
You're my number one.
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A mate of mine went and he's said it was fairly good natured and a decent turn out.
Fans are just disapointed at the quality of manager we've approached, first Martinez and now Mccleish, who's taken the same club down twice. It's not very ambitious and it just sends out negative signals to fans.
Let's put it this way, if all of us on here had written a list of 10 managers who they thought would have been good appointments, i doubt McCleish would have been on many of them.
Sorry brah, but Martinez would get a MUCH BETTER reception.
It was almost split 50/50 on people wanting Martinez or not. Yea, one or two know it all might have said "he's not good enough for Villa blah blah blah" but not one protester would turn up.
If we had the oppotinity NOW to have Martinez instead of McLeish they'd snap at the oppotunity of having Martinez, even the ones who didn't want Martinez would want him.
I was telling people on here be careful what you wish ofr when some were turning their noses up at Roberto, well tough shit, you've ended up with McCock.
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Cretins.
A very well articulated quote.
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We are Aston Villa, why should we be choosing between managers who finished fourth and third from bottom.
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A few thousand there it seems.
Tbh, everyone is entitled to free speech, where they stepped over the line is when they quite litterally stepped over the line and went thru the gates. Do your protest, just don't invade the stadium when they locked the gates.
gates weren't locked lets stick to facts, yeah?
Yea, that's why they just wrap chains around the gates putting a lock on it... I guess they just did it for the cameras.
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Piss off. To all those protesting, you are an embarrasment. It won't make me popular but tough shit. Spoiled bastards making us look like Newcastle. Brought on themselves by a board that have been too open and pandered to fans wishes too much I admit, but stupid nonetheless.
Well said Chelts. It's a fucking football manager we're appointing. Nothing more.
If it is McLeish, then these complete tossers have got me rooting for him to succeed more and more.
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A few thousand there it seems.
Tbh, everyone is entitled to free speech, where they stepped over the line is when they quite litterally stepped over the line and went thru the gates. Do your protest, just don't invade the stadium when they locked the gates.
gates weren't locked lets stick to facts, yeah?
Yea, that's why they just wrap chains around the gates putting a lock on it... I guess they just did it for the cameras.
the unlocked them due to police wanting Witton lane cleared for traffic, ive spoken to 3 different people who've said exactly the same, sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda
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We are Aston Villa, why should we be choosing between managers who finished fourth and third from bottom.
Ya, it's pretty sad that this is what we have ended up with. It's not what I was hoping for when GH was relieved of his duties. A sad day indeed for Aston Villa F.C.
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A few thousand there it seems.
Tbh, everyone is entitled to free speech, where they stepped over the line is when they quite litterally stepped over the line and went thru the gates. Do your protest, just don't invade the stadium when they locked the gates.
gates weren't locked lets stick to facts, yeah?
they showed them being locked, and fans gesturing and asking why to the guy who locked them.
(already spoken about. nevermind.)
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A few thousand there it seems.
Tbh, everyone is entitled to free speech, where they stepped over the line is when they quite litterally stepped over the line and went thru the gates. Do your protest, just don't invade the stadium when they locked the gates.
gates weren't locked lets stick to facts, yeah?
Yea, that's why they just wrap chains around the gates putting a lock on it... I guess they just did it for the cameras.
the unlocked them due to police wanting Witton lane cleared for traffic, ive spoken to 3 different people who've said exactly the same, sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda
For the first time ever police cleared a crowd by getting them onto private property rather dispersal?
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A few thousand there it seems.
Tbh, everyone is entitled to free speech, where they stepped over the line is when they quite litterally stepped over the line and went thru the gates. Do your protest, just don't invade the stadium when they locked the gates.
gates weren't locked lets stick to facts, yeah?
Yea, that's why they just wrap chains around the gates putting a lock on it... I guess they just did it for the cameras.
the unlocked them due to police wanting Witton lane cleared for traffic, ive spoken to 3 different people who've said exactly the same, sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda
For the first time ever police cleared a crowd by getting them onto private property rather dispersal?
Im just repeating what ive been told, I assume the police didnt have the numbers to disperse the amount there.
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A few thousand there it seems.
Tbh, everyone is entitled to free speech, where they stepped over the line is when they quite litterally stepped over the line and went thru the gates. Do your protest, just don't invade the stadium when they locked the gates.
gates weren't locked lets stick to facts, yeah?
Yea, that's why they just wrap chains around the gates putting a lock on it... I guess they just did it for the cameras.
the unlocked them due to police wanting Witton lane cleared for traffic, ive spoken to 3 different people who've said exactly the same, sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda
I have no agenda. I haven't been to any protest today, just watched the scenes on Sky Sports News.
How am I meant to know the Villa staff opened the gates?
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Dave makes a very valid point.
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Several thousand? When I saw it there seemed a few hundred at most - did they turn up after 7 as that's the last I saw?
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We are Aston Villa, why should we be choosing between managers who finished fourth and third from bottom.
Because we're owned by Randy Lerner.
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Totally agree alexpayne, tonight also for the 1st time in my life I am embarrassed and ashamed to be a fan of Aston villa , and it is nothing to do with randy or mcleish that makes me feel this way, it's the shameful and disgusting scenes at villa park from so called fans.
Totally agree.
Totally disagree. I am far more ashamed that we have an owner who thinks Aston villa deserve no better than a manager who spent around 20 million last summer to produce a side that was relegated playing the most turgid football in the league.
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Did you pop down dave? Great chance to offload a few back issues.
On the subject of back issues I was clearing some drawers and found all my old heroes and villains dating right back from issue 1 - I presumed they'd all been lost years ago.
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From an official source:
Around 500 protestors attended. A gate at the North Stand was forced open and a number of the protestors got onto the car park. They were well-behaved and good natured; most of them drifted away after a while and the remainder dispersed when asked.
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Not every protester was a 'complete tosser' in the same way that not every fan sings the Tracy Andrews song.
The ones I spoke to are in shock that Randy is going to destroy all the good will he has built up and fear for the clubs future. Nothing wrong with making those feelings known. I saw no trouble.
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Piss off. To all those protesting, you are an embarrasment. It won't make me popular but tough shit. Spoiled bastards making us look like Newcastle. Brought on themselves by a board that have been too open and pandered to fans wishes too much I admit, but stupid nonetheless.
Well said Chelts. It's a fucking football manager we're appointing. Nothing more.
If it is McLeish, then these complete tossers have got me rooting for him to succeed more and more.
I'm with you guys.
Time for us to remember our heritage and not lower ourselves still further. We are not Newcastle. We are the famous Aston Villa.
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They still managed to sing anti-Blose songs which undermined their opinions in my opinion.
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They still managed to sing anti-Blose songs which undermined their opinions in my opinion.
A common occurence.
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Hi, just back from two weeks in deepest cornwall and been completely offline and almost totally out of touch with news.
This is like coming back in the house having left teenagers at home, saying you could have a few friends round and you had a full blown all night party and wrecked the place. Its obvious you lot cant be trusted to be left alone again.
My initial reaction is I dont have any particular problem with Mcleish as manager. I can well understand some getting upset, but he's not exactly Trevor Francis is he ? Argue all you want about whether he is good or not as a football manager, but ruling out a 52 year old bloke who has been involved in the upper levels of the professional game for many decades simply on the basis of him spending a couple of seasons at our rivals seems daft to me.
The Villa have a long tradition of links to scots, ok we did get relegated the last two seasons when a jock was in the hot seat but it could be 3rd time lucky. ;D
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ALITA, it's not the fact that he's been manager of SHA that is the problem. It's simply that he's not exactly any good.
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McLeish wins a cup for the Scum, for the first time in 50 years. Surely that makes him some sort of miracle worker?
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To be honest if I was randy I'd seriously think about selling up and I wouldn't give a toss who I sold it too- I feel so sorry for randy - he is a good chairman and doesn't deserve this, he deserves a club where he's treated much better than this , we don't deserve him!
Eastie, live on H&V talking shit again.
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To be honest if I was randy I'd seriously think about selling up and I wouldn't give a toss who I sold it too- I feel so sorry for randy - he is a good chairman and doesn't deserve this, he deserves a club where he's treated much better than this , we don't deserve him!
Eastie, live on H&V talking shit again.
Let's keep it civil, please.
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Looked like there was more than the 50 some of the knowalls on here told us there would be.
And it's changed what, exactly? Randy and McLeish are due for a second meeting.
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To be honest if I was randy I'd seriously think about selling up and I wouldn't give a toss who I sold it too- I feel so sorry for randy - he is a good chairman and doesn't deserve this, he deserves a club where he's treated much better than this , we don't deserve him!
Let's keep it civil, please.
Eastie, live on H&V talking shit again.
Noted.
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Thanks.
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ALITA, it's not the fact that he's been manager of SHA that is the problem. It's simply that he's not exactly any good.
But I am sure there are loads of 'not any good' managers out there, who if they were in the frame would not provoke this much negative reaction.
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The media are telling a few porkies. There was much more than 500 protesting at Villa Park.
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Piss off. To all those protesting, you are an embarrasment. It won't make me popular but tough shit. Spoiled bastards making us look like Newcastle. Brought on themselves by a board that have been too open and pandered to fans wishes too much I admit, but stupid nonetheless.
Well said Chelts. It's a fucking football manager we're appointing. Nothing more.
If it is McLeish, then these complete tossers have got me rooting for him to succeed more and more.
Fully agree with you - I was so angry with the arseholes I saw on TV tonight supposedly representing Villa supporters that I'd be happy with McLeish now just so they can all carry out their threats and F**k off.
If Randy backs down to mob rule we are finished - he may as well sell the club to the first Indians or Chinese that will give him back the millions its cost him and wash is hands of it all.
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ALITA, it's not the fact that he's been manager of SHA that is the problem. It's simply that he's not exactly any good.
But I am sure there are loads of 'not any good' managers out there, who if they were in the frame would not provoke this much negative reaction.
I wanted a world class manager;
I would happily have accepted an excellent manager;
The least I thought we'd get is a good manager;
I would have been disappointed if we appointed a fair manager;
and unhappy with a poor manager.
Birmingham City's manager has spent a fortune compared to his typical relegation rivals but has produced turgid football and been relegated twice. I don't think he even makes that bottom category.
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I honestly don't see why people have it in for the protestors.
You are unhappy about something, you can either do something about it or mutter to your mates in the pub. It may not work but at least you tried. We've been an apathetic lot over the years but it does at least indicate some strength of feeling.
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WMP - Villa fans did not break gates, they were opened for safety reaso.ns - tweeted earlier so all bullshit about any vandalism
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WMP - Villa fans did not break gates, they were opened for safety reaso.ns - tweeted earlier so all bullshit about any vandalism
They've said there was no damage caused. We've been told semi-officially that the gates were forced open - both could be true.
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Totally agree alexpayne, tonight also for the 1st time in my life I am embarrassed and ashamed to be a fan of Aston villa , and it is nothing to do with randy or mcleish that makes me feel this way, it's the shameful and disgusting scenes at villa park from so called fans.
Totally agree.
I don't. I'll never be afraid or ashamed to say i'm a Villa fan.
As Legion said, on occasions ashamed of a minority. I don't condone them breaking through the gates, etc, but I understand why they turned up in the first place. At least they've tried to do something about it.
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Regarding the protesters, I don't think think they're tossers or arseholes. Nor were they an embarrassment. Sure, the media focus on the lowest common denominator for the most extreme views, but I'll best the vast majority saw it as an opportunity to let of some steam, even have a bit of a laugh. No harm done.
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Regarding the protesters, I don't think think they're tossers or arseholes. Nor were they an embarrassment. Sure, the media focus on the lowest common denominator for the most extreme views, but I'll best the vast majority saw it as an opportunity to let of some steam, even have a bit of a laugh. No harm done.
Absolutely this
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I've only seen what SSN chose to show. Somehow made Newcastle protests look classy imo. But then no one's ever shoved a microphone in front of my face and encouraged me to voice emotional opinions.
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The media are telling a few porkies. There was much more than 500 protesting at Villa Park.
Unless they are all hiding in the pictures and telly stuff I have seen so far then 500 is about right, certainly not the thousands you alone (on here) are claiming.
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I guess our season tickets will go up next year to pay for those damaged gates. Thanks a bunch
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The media are telling a few porkies. There was much more than 500 protesting at Villa Park.
Unless they are all hiding in the pictures and telly stuff I have seen so far then 500 is about right, certainly not the thousands you alone (on here) are claiming.
There was more than 500. Do you think the Villa staff counted them one-by-one?
Here's a little bit of advice, don't believe everything the media tells you...
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To be fair the estimate of 1500 looks about right from the pictures on Facebook.
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I guess our season tickets will go up next year to pay for those damaged gates. Thanks a bunch
And how much of ticket prices are paying off MoN, GH and potentially sha for McLeish?
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Ha ha ha.
If the general mood of this board over the last few weeks could be summed up in a facial expression, it is the one on that guy's face.
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ALITA, it's not the fact that he's been manager of SHA that is the problem. It's simply that he's not exactly any good.
But I am sure there are loads of 'not any good' managers out there, who if they were in the frame would not provoke this much negative reaction.
I wanted a world class manager;
I would happily have accepted an excellent manager;
The least I thought we'd get is a good manager;
I would have been disappointed if we appointed a fair manager;
and unhappy with a poor manager.
Birmingham City's manager has spent a fortune compared to his typical relegation rivals but has produced turgid football and been relegated twice. I don't think he even makes that bottom category.
I can't stand this.
I find myself repeatedly agreeing with you.
I'm going to the doctor to get some mental pills or something, this can't be right.
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The media are telling a few porkies. There was much more than 500 protesting at Villa Park.
Unless they are all hiding in the pictures and telly stuff I have seen so far then 500 is about right, certainly not the thousands you alone (on here) are claiming.
There was more than 500. Do you think the Villa staff counted them one-by-one?
Here's a little bit of advice, don't believe everything the media tells you...
I'll believe the people I trust. 500 and a forced gate.
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so how many were protesting?
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so how many were protesting?
There were about 12 or 13 blokes, three boys, a woman and a cat, but there was some very clever use of mirrors going on.
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The media are telling a few porkies. There was much more than 500 protesting at Villa Park.
Unless they are all hiding in the pictures and telly stuff I have seen so far then 500 is about right, certainly not the thousands you alone (on here) are claiming.
There was more than 500. Do you think the Villa staff counted them one-by-one?
Here's a little bit of advice, don't believe everything the media tells you...
Haven't read any media and only saw pictures on the telly (was in a meeting, TV in corner with sound turned down). I guessed about 500 from that, can live with there being about the same again away from the cameras.
But "thousands"?
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From the photos posted up on here and the TV images, I'd say 500 was about right.
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I was there at 7pm, I'd say 500-1000, for all the good it's done.
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The media are telling a few porkies. There was much more than 500 protesting at Villa Park.
Unless they are all hiding in the pictures and telly stuff I have seen so far then 500 is about right, certainly not the thousands you alone (on here) are claiming.
There was more than 500. Do you think the Villa staff counted them one-by-one?
Here's a little bit of advice, don't believe everything the media tells you...
Haven't read any media and only saw pictures on the telly (was in a meeting, TV in corner with sound turned down). I guessed about 500 from that, can live with there being about the same again away from the cameras.
But "thousands"?
I would say there was about 1,000 - maybe more... I don't really know what time the peak time when most turned up. I was actually quite surprised that many turned out after laughing when there was only about 20 who turned up at 5pm.
I probably did exaggerate at the time but i'm sure there was more than 500 just from what a couple who I know attended.
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I would say there was about 1,000 - maybe more... I don't really know what time the peak time when most turned up. I was actually quite surprised that many turned out after laughing when there was only about 20 who turned up at 5pm.
I probably did exaggerate at the time but i'm sure there was more than 500 just from what a couple who I know attended.
So you weren't there and it wasn't "thousands"?
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The last people to judge the numbers in a crowd are those in it.
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so how many were protesting?
There were about 12 or 13 blokes, three boys, a woman and a cat, but there was some very clever use of mirrors going on.
Are we not forgeting Black Bag - The Faithful Border Bin Liner?
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ALITA, it's not the fact that he's been manager of SHA that is the problem. It's simply that he's not exactly any good.
But I am sure there are loads of 'not any good' managers out there, who if they were in the frame would not provoke this much negative reaction.
I wanted a world class manager;
I would happily have accepted an excellent manager;
The least I thought we'd get is a good manager;
I would have been disappointed if we appointed a fair manager;
and unhappy with a poor manager.
Birmingham City's manager has spent a fortune compared to his typical relegation rivals but has produced turgid football and been relegated twice. I don't think he even makes that bottom category.
I can't stand this.
I find myself repeatedly agreeing with you.
I'm going to the doctor to get some mental pills or something, this can't be right.
Me too VD. Never thought I would say that, but that post is bang on.
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McLeish must feel at home already as he's used to small crowds claiming to be bigger than they actually are.
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McLeish must feel at home already as he's used to small crowds claiming to be bigger than they actually are.
very good
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My son went and he reckoned about 5 or 600 tops
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Fair play to those who showed up.
After all Lerner has invested in us, we are right back down to the end of Doug Ellis's reign now. GT2 was a bad appointment from Ellis but this one tops that by some distance. Actually Id have argued at the time than DOL was a decent appointment for where we were barely after surviving relegation. Better than appointing McLeish now anyway. Plus the club now has a substantial debt mountain and 80%+ of falling turnover is going on player wages.
At least he has a Villa tattoo though. That is reassuring for his intentions for AVFC.
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If things pan out as many fear they will, forcing a gate will be nothing come next spring.
It'll be more like ripping the blasted things off their hinges and chucking them throught the ticket office window.
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Having just seen the pictures of this protest on Sky Sports News for the first time... I don't think I've ever cringed so much.
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Central said 300
Sky said 500
Daybreak said 1000
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Having just seen the pictures of this protest on Sky Sports News for the first time... I don't think I've ever cringed so much.
You obviously haven't read the press reports then.
"He’s a Blue Nose. They wouldn’t have it over there and nor will we here.”
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Oh dear. Well done all for making us look like our chavvy neighbours.
I have reservations over McLeish and his abilities but I refuse to accept that the great majority of this hogwash is not based on who his former employer is.
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
Do they really care about the club, or is it knee-jerk "He's one of Them"?
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Having just seen the pictures of this protest on Sky Sports News for the first time... I don't think I've ever cringed so much.
You didn't see the "Bells are ringing" singing practice footage then?
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
Do they really care about the club, or is it knee-jerk "He's one of Them"?
They care about the Club because they see us making the second rubbish management appointment in the space of 9 months and feel the club is moving backwards
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
How dare people express their views. It's an outrage. Next they'll be forums and all sorts....
If people want to protest then fair play to them. They are entitled to their opinion and it's the words removed that have been on this site insulting people for expressing their views that are really dragging the club down.
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
Do they really care about the club, or is it knee-jerk "He's one of Them"?
Isn't that the kind of blanket judgement that we used to get wound up about as football fans in years gone by, though?
I suspect some of them hate the idea he is coming from Blues, but I image a large number of them are most wound up at what looks like a bizarre appointment.
That's the impression Tim Abraham got from speaking to people last night, so he said on that there tweeting thing.
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
Do they really care about the club, or is it knee-jerk "He's one of Them"?
They care about the Club because they see us making the second rubbish management appointment in the space of 9 months and feel the club is moving backwards
And you can honestly say they'd have been protesting if he'd come from any other club?
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
Do they really care about the club, or is it knee-jerk "He's one of Them"?
They care about the Club because they see us making the second rubbish management appointment in the space of 9 months and feel the club is moving backwards
So why spend most of the time singing anti-Blues songs. We all know that it's mainly about him working for them however much they all try to pretend otherwise.
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
Do they really care about the club, or is it knee-jerk "He's one of Them"?
Sorry Dave but are you towing party lines here with that patronising statement or is that a genuine question? Villa fans deserve more credit than that, the media will spin that angle all day long but you must be aware that a lot of us just don't think he is good enough REGARDLESS of who he managed before.
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Mclaren would have warranted the same treatment
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Mclaren would have warranted the same treatment
True but at least McClaren attempts to play the beautiful game imo which is the huge white elephant if the room if you ask me, but knowing me I'll be eating humble pie when Eck has us playing a passing game and we're lifting a trophy.....
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I agree with you about Mclaren
I still can't believe that people think that having AM as manager is going to attract players to us
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I cant see what the fuss is about.
People care about the Club and chose to demonstrate
It wont do a lot of good but it shows they care
Do they really care about the club, or is it knee-jerk "He's one of Them"?
Sorry Dave but are you towing party lines here with that patronising statement or is that a genuine question? Villa fans deserve more credit than that, the media will spin that angle all day long but you must be aware that a lot of us just don't think he is good enough REGARDLESS of who he managed before.
It's not patronising, and it doesn't fit the definition of the word. Remind me what the grafitti at Bodymoor said.
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Mclaren would have warranted the same treatment
500 people would not have turned up at Villa Park to sing Shit on the City if McClaren had been appointed.
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Watching those arse clowns on SSN is the most ashamed I have been to be a villa fan in my life. I am still cringing when I think about it.
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If people feel that strongly about the club and want to voices their concerns (albeit to a board who couldn't care less) what are the other options??
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Sorry Dave but are you towing party lines here with that patronising statement or is that a genuine question? Villa fans deserve more credit than that, the media will spin that angle all day long but you must be aware that a lot of us just don't think he is good enough REGARDLESS of who he managed before.
We're entitled not to want him due to his record, but the protest yesterday said more to me about his Blues connections. They didn;t protest because we're getting a shit manager, they protested because they're getting a shit Blues manager.
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Watching those arse clowns on SSN is the most ashamed I have been to be a villa fan in my life. I am still cringing when I think about it.
Agree. It was way over the top. Why is AM Bluenose Scum? He's a Scot who managed Rangers and the National team - he's not a Blues fan!
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Watching those arse clowns on SSN is the most ashamed I have been to be a villa fan in my life. I am still cringing when I think about it.
I'm more embarrased by the board even considering appointing McLeish. I think the reaction is understandable. What if Man U had appointed Joe Royle after he took Citeh down? Or Liverpool appointed Mike Walker after he nearly took Everton down? Or Stoke appoint whoever the hell took Port Vale down most recently? It's a shit appointment made far, far worse by where he's been before.
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It's all a bit chicken and egg, really.
If he hadn't been a Blues manager but had that shit record, there wouldn't have been so many people protesting. But then again, if he was a former Blues manager who had an excellent record there, there also wouldn't have been many people protesting.
If he'd been the latter, I'd personally be gloatingly happy we'd stolen him from them.
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Sorry Dave but are you towing party lines here with that patronising statement or is that a genuine question? Villa fans deserve more credit than that, the media will spin that angle all day long but you must be aware that a lot of us just don't think he is good enough REGARDLESS of who he managed before.
We're entitled not to want him due to his record, but the protest yesterday said more to me about his Blues connections. They didn;t protest because we're getting a shit manager, they protested because they're getting a shit Blues manager.
Let's find out then shall we? I propose a poll that offers the following options:
I don't want AM cos he's ex Blues.
I don't want AM cos I don't think he's good enough.
I want AM as manager.
Can we have that poll please Dave?
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Sorry Dave but are you towing party lines here with that patronising statement or is that a genuine question? Villa fans deserve more credit than that, the media will spin that angle all day long but you must be aware that a lot of us just don't think he is good enough REGARDLESS of who he managed before.
We're entitled not to want him due to his record, but the protest yesterday said more to me about his Blues connections. They didn;t protest because we're getting a shit manager, they protested because they're getting a shit Blues manager.
Let's find out then shall we? I propose a poll that offers the following options:
I don't want AM cos he's ex Blues.
I don't want AM cos I don't think he's good enough.
I want AM as manager.
Can we have that poll please Dave?
Do you really think people will answer honestly?
No other manager would have provoked that protest last night?
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The Blues part of it just exacerbates the drawbacks with him as a top flight manager. No there wouldn't have been a protest to the same scale last night, but I bet the general mood of the support would have been the same.
For the record I think he is a decent guy, but do I want him as our next manager, no chance.
Oh Randy, what have you done?!
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Personally if they really wanted to make an impact every one of them should have marched in to the ticket office and cancelled their season ticket.
How many of them did that? Not that many I'll bet.
Watching the protest images is just a shambles and a down-right fucking embarrasment.
I'm not a fan of his managerial ways, tactics, etc., but for the love of God give him a chance. I'm sure the board know the risks and if, after 3 games, he's still shit then I'm sure they'll kick him up the arse and out the door.
And as said; where's all this 'bluenose scum' shit come from? Yes, he's worked for Blues, but he doesn't support them. He's fucking Scottish.
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Sorry Dave but are you towing party lines here with that patronising statement or is that a genuine question? Villa fans deserve more credit than that, the media will spin that angle all day long but you must be aware that a lot of us just don't think he is good enough REGARDLESS of who he managed before.
We're entitled not to want him due to his record, but the protest yesterday said more to me about his Blues connections. They didn;t protest because we're getting a shit manager, they protested because they're getting a shit Blues manager.
Let's find out then shall we? I propose a poll that offers the following options:
I don't want AM cos he's ex Blues.
I don't want AM cos I don't think he's good enough.
I want AM as manager.
Can we have that poll please Dave?
Wrong question really.
People will not want him due to his record, myself being one of them, but the strength of how deep that feeling goes is due to the Blues thing.
Can you honestly say that had he last job been West Ham they'd have that many people there?
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If the porn barons or Carson Yeung were to take over at Villa Park tomorrow would any protests be because they were ex-Blues or because they share a shit record of achievement with Alex McLeish?
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It's a tribal thing and you can't seperate the two, he's not just a shit manager, he's a shit ex-Small Heath manager.
The tribalism distorts the reality and makes people do irrational things, that, in the cold light of day seem bizarre. Like doing the conga around the pub when another team goes down, refusing to have their colours in your house and contributing to 300 odd page thread about them.
Sometimes it results in damage and injury which for most of us is a step too far. But I prefer football with this tribalism, it's part of what makes the game in this country and makes defeat so much more painfull and victory all the sweeter. It's utterly organic and is not a profit led Sky creation.
They've taken almost everything else from us, hope of winning the league, the competetive edge, the unpredictable nature of the game not to mention an affordable and convenient weekend pass time. This is one thing they can't touch, hard though they may try.
Given a good season, the naysayers will go quiet but when things get tough that background will always be there making a tricky job even harder.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
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If he hadn't been a Blues manager but had that shit record, there wouldn't have been so many people protesting. But then again, if he was a former Blues manager who had an excellent record there, there also wouldn't have been many people protesting.
If he'd been the latter, I'd personally be gloatingly happy we'd stolen him from them.
I agree.
There appears to be no "Keep Alex at St Andrews" protest from the Bluenoses, does there?
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If he hadn't been a Blues manager but had that shit record, there wouldn't have been so many people protesting. But then again, if he was a former Blues manager who had an excellent record there, there also wouldn't have been many people protesting.
If he'd been the latter, I'd personally be gloatingly happy we'd stolen him from them.
I agree.
There appears to be no "Keep Alex at St Andrews" protest from the Bluenoses, does there?
I agree with Paulie, if I thought AM was great i'd be pissing myself that they finally had a decent manager and he left them for us. But he seems to me to be mediocrity personified.
It's very noticeable that not many of them seem bothered he's left, some are bothered he's coming here but that's about it. Sums it up really.
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It's very noticeable that not many of them seem bothered he's left, some are bothered he's coming here but that's about it. Sums it up really.
Over the last few seasons, I've had constant earache from 3 Dogshitter mates about how negative and shit his football is.
They're laughing their bollocks off now.
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I met a few noses for a beer last night, to a man they thought it hilarious that we were hiring him and thought it was only that jammy cup win that saved him from the bullet. They were quite excited by the possibility of getting rid of him and getting in Di Matteo.
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Since when have we taken seriously anything Noses have to say?
I think their problems run a lot deeper than the manager and whoever they bring in will struggle with that bunch of mentalists running the show.
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Since when have we taken seriously anything Noses have to say?
I think their problems run a lot deeper than the manager and whoever they bring in will struggle with that bunch of mentalists running the show.
I agree. Their problems quite amazingly run much deeper than ours.
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Well two of them have been ST holders since the 70s and have seen their fair share of shit, in fact they are shit boffins. For them to rate him as the producer of the dullest football they've seen his pretty good going.
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Since when have we taken seriously anything Noses have to say?
I think their problems run a lot deeper than the manager and whoever they bring in will struggle with that bunch of mentalists running the show.
I wouldn't take any notice if they were saying it now, but they complained about his style of football all the way through his tenure.
Feel free to balance it out with any stories of Blues fans weeping like willows at his departure.
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Well two of them have been ST holders since the 70s and have seen their fair share of shit, in fact they are shit boffins. For them to rate him as the producer of the dullest football they've seen his pretty good going.
The ones I know say much the same but put it down to pragmatism. Let's face it up until March it had worked pretty well, their best ever finish last season and a cup this - that's as good as it gets for them.
My point was that even if they're right I don't agree with them on principle.
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Since when have we taken seriously anything Noses have to say?
I think their problems run a lot deeper than the manager and whoever they bring in will struggle with that bunch of mentalists running the show.
I wouldn't take any notice if they were saying it now, but they complained about his style of football all the way through his tenure.
Feel free to balance it out with any stories of Blues fans weeping like willows at his departure.
Speaking to a nose today.Funny how suddenly their Carling Cup win is now" a lucky run of home games and a flukey winner" in February it was "you can only beat who's in front of you and we completely outplayed Arsenal "
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Their loss, our gain.
12 months ago a lot of people on this board would have took him. One bad season with a shit team and no one does.
He has my complete support.
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Pedant alert, it wasn't their best ever finished. They actually managed 6th once.
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Well two of them have been ST holders since the 70s and have seen their fair share of shit, in fact they are shit boffins. For them to rate him as the producer of the dullest football they've seen his pretty good going.
The ones I know say much the same but put it down to pragmatism. Let's face it up until March it had worked pretty well, their best ever finish last season and a cup this - that's as good as it gets for them.
My point was that even if they're right I don't agree with them on principle.
Well yes, my position was 'your most successful manager ever would rather come to a club where he'll be despised than stay with you mugs' it was all a bit half hearted though.
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Their loss, our gain.
12 months ago a lot of people on this board would have took him. One bad season with a shit team and no one does.
He has my complete support.
3 months ago a lot of people would have took him , with a much cheaper team than ours he wasnt that far from finishing above us and with 3 games to go there was little to choose between us.
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Well two of them have been ST holders since the 70s and have seen their fair share of shit, in fact they are shit boffins. For them to rate him as the producer of the dullest football they've seen his pretty good going.
The ones I know say much the same but put it down to pragmatism. Let's face it up until March it had worked pretty well, their best ever finish last season and a cup this - that's as good as it gets for them.
My point was that even if they're right I don't agree with them on principle.
Well yes, my position was 'your most successful manager ever would rather come to a club where he'll be despised than stay with you mugs' it was all a bit half hearted though.
Why? Sums it up perfectly
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Well two of them have been ST holders since the 70s and have seen their fair share of shit, in fact they are shit boffins. For them to rate him as the producer of the dullest football they've seen his pretty good going.
The ones I know say much the same but put it down to pragmatism. Let's face it up until March it had worked pretty well, their best ever finish last season and a cup this - that's as good as it gets for them.
My point was that even if they're right I don't agree with them on principle.
Well yes, my position was 'your most successful manager ever would rather come to a club where he'll be despised than stay with you mugs' it was all a bit half hearted though.
Why? Sums it up perfectly
Because he's them personified, unsuccessful, dour, boring, hapless. They were well suited, before all this I quite liked him for giving me so much ammunition.
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I was so amused by the bemused look on Mark Austin's face when, after showing the protest on ITN they cut back to him in the studio that I watched it again on ITV1+1 an hour later. This war correspondant looked a bit confused at this reaction to a football managerial appointment.
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Sky News carried two reports of the protest; one that gave a full picture of what went on that included a few interviews. One fella spoke well, the others not so. The other, shorter report was what looked like a gang of 15 chavs standing on a street corner, which was the other side of the street from the North Stand gates. It made us look ridiculously small time.
Obviously it's impossible to control what the media put out but it was always going to reflect badly on us. I'm sure the chap decked out in Villa gear loves the club to bits but to be quoted that "if McLeish is appointed I'm going to take off all my Villa stuff, put it in a plastic bag and set fire to it outside the club shop" only serves to give the nation a giggle, unless of course you're a Villa fan.
I'm sure come the new season, after a few decent signings, that same fella will be back down Villa Park, cheering on the lads. He may not sing of his love for the manager but I'm sure he'll realise that nobody is bigger, no matter how good or bad, than the club itself.
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Anyone see the scenes from Vancouver following the Stanley Cup defeat?
If McLeish loses his first game I demand nothing less.
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Anyone see the scenes from Vancouver following the Stanley Cup defeat?
If McLeish loses his first game I demand nothing less.
I kept meaning to do a post about it in OT. Thing is they would probably have done the same if they'd won.
On a more serious note, there were some nasty looking pictures from it, especially the guy who looked as though he had been knocked out cold on the road with a group of blokes around him.
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Anyone see the scenes from Vancouver following the Stanley Cup defeat?
If McLeish loses his first game I demand nothing less.
Why so patient? If we're losing at half-time I'm on it like a car bonnet.
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Sky News carried two reports of the protest; one that gave a full picture of what went on that included a few interviews. One fella spoke well, the others not so. The other, shorter report was what looked like a gang of 15 chavs standing on a street corner, which was the other side of the street from the North Stand gates. It made us look ridiculously small time.
Obviously it's impossible to control what the media put out but it was always going to reflect badly on us. I'm sure the chap decked out in Villa gear loves the club to bits but to be quoted that "if McLeish is appointed I'm going to take off all my Villa stuff, put it in a plastic bag and set fire to it outside the club shop" only serves to give the nation a giggle, unless of course you're a Villa fan.
I'm sure come the new season, after a few decent signings, that same fella will be back down Villa Park, cheering on the lads. He may not sing of his love for the manager but I'm sure he'll realise that nobody is bigger, no matter how good or bad, than the club itself.
what's going to be even more funny is that if we do make a few decent signings he'll have to go down to club shop and reinvest in all his Villa gear again. He'll regret lighting that match and club will be few hundred quid better off.
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I don't believe for a minute the chap really plans to burn his Villa gear. It was a ridiculous statement to make, probably designed to shock the journalist. People say strange things when you shove a TV camera in their face. Just look at Damon. (winky) I'm sure between now and the start of the season, with a few good signings in, that fella will be down the Villa for the opening game. He may not sing the praises to our new manager and I'm sure he won't be alone.
Emotions are running high and despite all the good intentions in the world, the protest was always going to result in one thing; making us look like Newcastle which is most injust, as we're far better than that.
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I wish somebody would shove a camera in McLeish's face and ask him a few questions....
Then Randy......
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My Villa gears up in the loft for now, I'll re-assess my feelings in a few weeks time. I’ve looked at Exeter City season ticket prices today, that’s how I’m feeling right now.
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2 million quid has been paid for his services; been supporting this team for 40 years & have honestly never felt quite so low......unbelievable
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I really don't understand the fuss about the appointment. Maybe not growing up in B'ham means that my anti-Small Heath feelings aren't as strong.
I wish A-Mac all the best and hope that he wins the protesters over. If he does, that'll mean that Villa are winning games, which is all that matters.
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It's not the SHA link that's the problem, UKR. It's that he's fucking shit.
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My Villa gears up in the loft for now, I'll re-assess my feelings in a few weeks time. I’ve looked at Exeter City season ticket prices today, that’s how I’m feeling right now.
Bit of advice, take it out of the loft before setting light to it.
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My Villa gears up in the loft for now, I'll re-assess my feelings in a few weeks time. I’ve looked at Exeter City season ticket prices today, that’s how I’m feeling right now.
Better football mate. Might be bread and butter, but once you've gotton used to the lack of bullsh*t, lot more exciting.
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It's very noticeable that not many of them seem bothered he's left, some are bothered he's coming here but that's about it. Sums it up really.
Over the last few seasons, I've had constant earache from 3 Dogshitter mates about how negative and shit his football is.
They're laughing their bollocks off now.
I'm in the same boat. Even Sandwell Bastards are laughing at us. They have a proven manager with a track record, we have one who apart from one half decent season in English Football has been pretty poor.
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It's like Tesco's round here.
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I'm in the same boat. Even Sandwell Bastards are laughing at us. They have a proven manager with a track record, we have one who apart from one half decent season in English Football has been pretty poor.
Let them fucking laugh. Because even at their most successful they'll always be in our shadow.
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It's not the SHA link that's the problem, UKR. It's that he's fucking shit.
Except that can't just be it, he's won more in charge of that rabble than most clubs.
We've not won anything for
15 years.
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It's not the SHA link that's the problem, UKR. It's that he's fucking shit.
Except that can't just be it, he's won more in charge of that rabble than most clubs.
When I pointed out that they'd won the League cup and we'd won nothing, I was shouted down about how their negative, cynical tactics had it won it for them.
Now it's a worthy achievement all of a sudden.
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It's very noticeable that not many of them seem bothered he's left, some are bothered he's coming here but that's about it. Sums it up really.
Over the last few seasons, I've had constant earache from 3 Dogshitter mates about how negative and shit his football is.
They're laughing their bollocks off now.
I'm in the same boat. Even Sandwell Bastards are laughing at us. They have a proven manager with a track record, we have one who apart from one half decent season in English Football has been pretty poor.
They've got a manager who has done well in smaller leagues a decent job at Fulham but was sacked by Blackburn and Liverpool. You need to get a grip, Lee, if you're starting to feel jealous of those bastards.