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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: NorthYvillan on May 09, 2011, 12:36:04 PM
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Appologies if there is another thread on this......but
What on earth made someone - and who was that person - choose the tolling bell as the best from of music for the team to enter the pitch?
We've had some bad ones but surely this takes the biscuit?
I realise its very apt for the season we have just witnessed but it is hardly going to inspire our players and strike fear into the opposition. I don't know whether to laugh or hang my head in embarassment!
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It's totally idiotic.
Most people around me just laugh about it.
Another gaffe in a gaffe riddled season.
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There's a few threads on this. I have a feeling our new entrance tune will be quietly forgotten before the start of next season.
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Bring back Escape.
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please please please please please play ACDC's Hells Bells for the Liverpool game. I would like a large inflatable devil to also be lowered into the stadium, ideally landing on Dalglish.
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I hate it.Personally I preferred that classical piece of music we used to play, much more intimidating
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Bring back Escape.
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Bring back Escape.
That's the one
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There was something sadly ironic about two poor teams walking out those clanging chimes on Saturday - the final death knell on a disasterous season.
Visiting fans must scratch their heads when they're not pissing themselves laughing.
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Don't worry, for the last match they've brought in Dave Chance to sing You'll Never Walk Alone
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What happened to the Bells are ringing?
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Bring back Escape.
Another vote for this.
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I thought the bell was the start of the song - the bells are ringing , but it seems all that seems all is being playing is the tolling bell - yes truely bizzare and embarassing !
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Bring back Escape.
Another vote for this.
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What happened to the Bells are ringing?
#fail
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Bring back 'Theme From An Unmade Silent Movie' please.
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As former Villa keeper John Donne once wrote, "never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee".
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Don't worry, for the last match they've brought in Dave Chance to sing You'll Never Walk Alone
I heard they earmarked that little number for Houllier to sing on his comeback game. Obviously with arms aloft and walking amongst the Liverpool fans.
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How about no music whatsoever? Let the players run out to the sound of the crowd.
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Bring back 'Theme From An Unmade Silent Movie' please.
Yes please.
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I don't know what surprises me more: The fact that someone thinks bells ringing "Bring out your dead" is the ideal introduction to a football match, or that four games on people in power at the club still haven't pulled the plug on them.
We really have had a season of embarrassment both on and off the pitch haven't we.
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In terms of setting the mood, the bells thing works fantastically, but that is only because the prevailing mood in B6 at the start of matches this season has been one of misery, doom and foreboding.
Ideally, we'd start matches without that reminder of impending misery, though, so I too find it incredible they're still persevering with it. They tried the thing with the song, it was worth a go, it didn't work, forget about it and move on.
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How about no music whatsoever? Let the players run out to the sound of the crowd.
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I fully understand what the club are trying to do in associating 'The bells are ringing' with our club and making it some kind of anthem.
But, instead of having a single bell tolling out, why not have a proper explosion of bells peeling out.
Make it sound joyous and uplifting, not like Princess Di's bloody funeral procession.
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While I'm here, are the girls in this teenage wank fantasy or what?
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one word describes it for me
Terrible
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please please please please please play ACDC's Hells Bells for the Liverpool game. I would like a large inflatable devil to also be lowered into the stadium, ideally landing on Dalglish.
Yes please.
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The local congregation got confused when hearing those bells and filed into Aston Parish church a little early for Choral Evansong.
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Hells Bells would be great.
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I think it would be more appropriate to have those bells tolling at the end of the match.
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I think it would be more appropriate to have those bells tolling at the end of the match.
An alarm clock would have been more appropriate at the end of saturday's game.
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I think it would be more appropriate to have those bells tolling at the end of the match.
An alarm clock would have been more appropriate at the end of saturday's game.
Correct. Games like that should be decided by the toss of a coin behind closed doors instead of lots of toss on the pitch in full view.
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Bring out your dead.
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Bring out your dead.
I'm not dead! After this season we do need something to shock us back to life.
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I must be one of the few people who quite likes it, brings a wonderful sense of the macabre to proceedings.
I'll get my coat....
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I must be one of the few people who quite likes it, brings a wonderful sense of the macabre to proceedings.
I'll get my coat....
My Dad turns 70 in August but checked with me on saturday that I could hear the bells as well, I think he thought he might be getting called before his time was up.
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Aplogies in advance as I posted this nonesense on another thread about the season end lap of "honour". However it is relevant here:
The lap of Honour.
Players trudging leaden footed - like Stan after sixty minutes - heads bowed and watched by pale blue seats of cold plastic. Tombstones of those departed from us.
And from the remaining few, yet to depart, a silent vigil but for a faint and constant 'hiss' of hate.
The drizzle out of a grey sky with a cold wind whipping sodden corner flags into sharp slaps of wet cloth - a cutting mockery of real applause. The Holte silent as the grave except for the occasional keening wail of a fan overcome by mourning for times past.
The mournful "caw..... caw" of an expectant Crow. Black of heart in it's need to scavenge from the dead remains of a once proud band of Brothers. "Aaaaaagh" screams a demented man living in the bowels of the Holte
"It's Vic come back to Haunt us !"
And as if to accompany the slowing heartbeat of those brave souls unable to leave this funeral march of misery and shame:
The Bells. Those Fuckin' Bells.
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I thought at first we was introducing our new signing 'The Undertaker'
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Bring back Escape.
Another vote for this.
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Here, here.
Sends shivers down my spine - brilliant! Really sets the scene.
That said, such a dramatic opener would've been the most excitement I got on Saturday and just a little bit ridiculous given the shite served up on the pitch.
What was it we had before that? It was some sort of fanfare I think...
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Bring back 'Theme From An Unmade Silent Movie' please.
Yes please.
This every game.
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Another vote for hells bells here.
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If they are going to persist with the Bells then I think this is how the team should come out.
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I hate it.Personally I preferred that classical piece of music we used to play, much more intimidating
Same really.
I just assumed when Bellls are ringing was recorded, we'd just play that on its own like other clubs do with their anthems.
The bell serves no positive purpose at all.
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It's yet another embarrassing chapter in the farce that is our pre match, half time and post match atmosphere generator. Whoever comes up with these shocking ideas needs removing from whatever role they're in and put on pouring the Bovril.
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really really embarrassing!!! sums up the season really
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Whichever tune we come out to, it will mean lots to some people, and nothing to lots of other people.
For example, I've no idea about anything regarding WWE, I don't like metal so ACDC dont interest me, and the bells thing we do now is just terrible. If it were down to me, I'd go for Theme From an Unmade Silent Movie, but then again, that will mean absolutely nothing to an increasing number of Villa fans these days.
I think probably the answer is just some random bland shit nobody will really get annoyed about. If we have to spend so long trying to come up with something meaningful to run out to, it's a sign that there's no real, obvious, meaningful answer.
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Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie for me to. It's quite rousing and nostalgic.
The bells have to go though.
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Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie for me to. It's quite rousing and nostalgic.
The bells have to go though.
Well said
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Watched the BBC prog on Wootton Bassett earlier - where people of the town line the streets to show their respect every time the body of a soldier returns home to RAF Lyneham. As the hearse drove slowly through the town the church bell tolled eerily, and it sounded exactly like Villa Park on Saturday.
So right for such a sombre occasion as at Wootton Bassett... but oh so very wrong for setting the mood for a football match.
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Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie should never have been removed. If we'd have kept it in permanently since the early 80's, it would have become as iconic as Z-Cars or The Liquidator. It's a rousing and stirring little ditty that evokes many memories.
The bells should not be played at the Liverpool game. It's so embarrassing.
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The club listened to the fans, but the fans got it wrong.
I guess it's up to the same fans to admit this to the club and ( as Paulie says) move on.
Next ...... :)
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No, the club listened to the fans and then made an absolute pig's ear of the execution of the initiative.
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Bring back 'Theme From An Unmade Silent Movie' please.
this
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I'd like something intimidating so that the opposition come out thinking they're up against warriors in an arena that wants their blood.
But first, we need some Gladiators.
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I still think this would be brilliant
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I'd like something intimidating so that the opposition come out thinking they're up against warriors in an arena that wants their blood.
But first, we need some Gladiators.
Exactly, rather than 11 trembling Charles Hawtreys, knees knocking, ready to roll over and die.
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I can't stand any more,
Cos I can't stand any more
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I'd like something intimidating so that the opposition come out thinking they're up against warriors in an arena that wants their blood.
But first, we need some Gladiators.
This.
Those bells are pathetic. Quite amusing that the "Bells Are Ringing" initiative has failed so miserably. The moron sat behind me tries to sing it though.
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Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie for me to. It's quite rousing and nostalgic.
The bells have to go though.
Well said
Would also agree
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If we're staying on the funeral theme as they come out, let's play this.
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Bring back 'Theme From An Unmade Silent Movie' please.
Yes please.
This every game.
if we have or ever had a Villa tune to come out to, this must be it,
its no good just wanting your favourite bit of music, it has nothing to do with Villa,
this does, whether you like it or not it is the most traditional Villa tune, we should never have got rid
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Unmade Silent Movie - gets a big YES from me!!
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For me it just shows the pure incompetence of the club.
The idea was for the old villa anthem the bells are ringing for the claret and blue to reign out. They got some people to record it think its on youtube and when u listen to it its good.
When i went down i said to my mate they have done some new walk on music and expected it to be good. They just laughed at me when they heard it.
I expected it to play out and the words be displayed on the screen so everyone could understand and sing along!!!
How hard is that to organise. God what is wrong with these people.
Ok if time is limited before that stupid premiership walkon song comes on..... play it a few minutes before or just simply reduce the number of bells
It cant be that hard can it???
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Two problems for the majority of fans with "The Bells..." are that people don't know the tune or the words...
Get a decent instrumental recording of the tune and play it everywhere from pre-match to the hold music on the ticket office phones, ring tones etc etc...
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Another potential problem is that it's fucking shit.
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The Club expected the fans to be singing "the bells are ringing" as soon as the funeral bells began. Nice idea. They and we want an anthem.
The PR guys put out the story about Aston Church sounding its bells in the old days and the fans spontaneously singing "The bells are ringing for the Claret and Blue".
Nice. History and relevance.
Unfortunately PR People live in a different world. Fans won't be told what to do, they make it up.
In fact I haven't heard the song since those bloody bells chimed us onto the park.
Hint: Villa talk to the fans first, we can make a plan.
BTW thanks to whoever - this Craig Armstrong is new to me and it is beautiful stuff.
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Another potential problem is that it's fucking shit.
Seconded
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The Club expected the fans to be singing "the bells are ringing" as soon as the funeral bells began. Nice idea. They and we want an anthem.
The PR guys put out the story about Aston Church sounding its bells in the old days and the fans spontaneously singing "The bells are ringing for the Claret and Blue".
Nice. History and relevance.
Unfortunately PR People live in a different world. Fans won't be told what to do, they make it up.
In fact I haven't heard the song since those bloody bells chimed us onto the park.
Hint: Villa talk to the fans first, we can make a plan.
BTW thanks to whoever - this Craig Armstrong is new to me and it is beautiful stuff.
The whole 'prompting fans to do stuff' thing smacks me of being a bit American. I'd imagine it'd work over there but UK football fans don't react well to being told what to do. Unless you're a Fulham fan and you're told to use your 'clapper'.
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Still say that the bells in Aston Church should be used 'live' as a peal like Carl Chinn described on the 'bells are ringing' thread, last month. Can't stand the single bell on the official stream.
'Who sends to know for whom the bell is tolling? ...It tolls for you..' thank you Mr Hemingway. Doom, Gloom and disaster!
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While I'm here, are the girls in this teenage wank fantasy or what?
Haha...was, er, looking at that earlier. I saw The Human League last week. Great fun altogether. The girls most telling contribution to the night was probably changing their outfits three times. Still, probably would though.
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Cut all the pre-match crap and just give us the 90 minutes effort, skill, entertainment and tactical brilliance we pay a fortune to watch.
Sorted. End of thread. Goodnight.
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Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie for me to. It's quite rousing and nostalgic.
The bells have to go though.
Well said
Would also agree
Agreed.
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Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie for me to. It's quite rousing and nostalgic.
The bells have to go though.
Well said
Would also agree
Agreed.
Me an' all. My favourite bit of shite music ever. Funny there's no clamour for 'We will rock you'.
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BTW thanks to whoever - this Craig Armstrong is new to me and it is beautiful stuff.
I agree, what was wrong with the old theme? I thought it was nice and got the ol' blood pumping a bit.
Also, if anyone remembers what happened the last time the club tried to manufacture an anthem, this was the product:
once again, a good opening, ruined by something that sounds so fake and emotionless produced by the club.
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BTW thanks to whoever - this Craig Armstrong is new to me and it is beautiful stuff.
I agree, what was wrong with the old theme? I thought it was nice and got the ol' blood pumping a bit.
I hated it - too churchy (yep, it's a word) & high-pitched.
Unfortunately, the bells (both pre-match tolling & post-match peeling) just haven't worked & are embarrassing.
Hells Bells, Outlaws version of Ghostriders or anything fairly lively will do. The stuff we've had recently has been all too cerebral & serious.
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Fans won't be told what to do, they make it up.
Not strictly true - fans at Anfield, Old Triffid, Upton Park, WHL and Stamford Bridge all join in with their club songs at the beginning / end of games.
Fans at Bramall Lane, Britannia, Elland Road and many others spontaneously burst into their song before games.
Where Villa have failed is - as people above have said - with the funereal bells and absence of North-end screen for the words to be displayed to the larger sections of crowd. They're also trying to do it during a season of unmitigated mediocrity, which doesn't really help.
The problem with the "Silent Movie" suggestion is that it is not something that the crowd would join in with, is it? Don't get me wrong - I like it and it appeals to my growing nostalgia, and all that; but if we want something that rouses the crowd and can be replicated at away games, it ain't going to do it.
I admit to being slightly envious of clubs that have a distinctive song that they 'own' - "Delilah", "Annie's Song", "We're forever blowing bubbles", "Marching on together", etc; it gives the fans some further ownership and marks them out at away games. Why can't we have something like that?!!
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Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
The songs got bells at the start, and they're from Aston.
Of course, it might mean, we're evil satanners.
I can't find the full original version on youtube though.
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I liked Escape by Craig Armstrong. Found it quite haunting and intimidating when the teams came out to it at VP>
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Can't we record 'Kum by yah'? Seeing as every fcuking song we ever sing is to that sodding tune?
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On a slight change of subject, what happened to "Come on you lions" as the players are about to kick off?
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On a slight change of subject, what happened to "Come on you lions" as the players are about to kick off?
The Lions have turned into Pussys
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you can understand why the film wasn't made if that was the theme tune. Never liked it and just seems terrible nostalgia coming on to that. Might as well rotate between that and the theme from rentaghost.
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record this on your mobile and everyone press play at the same time
and don't forget the prayer mats ;D
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It's my ringtone.
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Can't we record 'Kum by yah'? Seeing as every fcuking song we ever sing is to that sodding tune?
Des is right m'lord, Des is right. Des is right m'lord, Des is right. Des is right m'lord, Des is right. ohh ohhhh Des is right.
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Looking forward to hearing this on Sunday
http://http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2362618,00.html
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Looking forward to hearing this on Sunday
http://http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2362618,00.html
Are we going to be able hear the church bells in the ground now with the new stands?
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I really like the Ghostriders idea.
Though there are perhaps too many animal noises on the Ramrods' version...
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Looking forward to hearing this on Sunday
http://http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2362618,00.html
Are we going to be able hear the church bells in the ground now with the new stands?
They will ring from 3.35-3.55 so I guess it is intended for the walk up to the ground.Doubt you will be able to hear much inside
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Looking forward to hearing this on Sunday
http://http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2362618,00.html
Are we going to be able hear the church bells in the ground now with the new stands?
Probably not but it cant be too hard to get a recording to be played as the players come out instead of the current one .
Be nice if they could get those bells ringing for every home game aswell .
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Looking forward to hearing this on Sunday
http://http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2362618,00.html
Are we going to be able hear the church bells in the ground now with the new stands?
They will ring from 3.35-3.55 so I guess it is intended for the walk up to the ground.Doubt you will be able to hear much inside
IIRC in around 1999/2000 we played Chelsea at home at around 11.00am on Easter Sunday. The bells were rung by the church at 11.00am in protest. You couldn't hear them in the ground surprisingly.