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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Dave Cooper please on May 05, 2011, 11:48:40 PM
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So the FA have delayed a decision on whether QPR will lose points until after the last games of the season, anyone else think that this is purely so they know exactly how many points to deduct so QPR still get promoted and the play-offs aren't all buggered up and no one will sue?
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That was my first thought.
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If somebody like Cardiff misses out due to a smaller deduction could they sue a la Sheffield United and West Ham?
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If QPR are found guilty of these charges then I believe they should be dealt with extremely harshly (Mostly because I had a bet with a workmate at the start of the year that Cardiff would finish above them)
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They'll get off rather lightly and still be promoted.
Wankers to a man at the FA.
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If the points deduction doesn't impact their their promotion it woild effectively be no punishment for breaking the rules. It just doesn't make sense. What is wrong with the rule being that they lose any points in which that player took part?
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They're being presented with the trophy after their last match and will be parading it around the ground.
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The FA have created this problem for themselves by taking more than 2 months to consider the case from the time QPR were first charged. Whichever way it goes, it will get messy for any one or more of the clubs at the top of the Championship bar Norwich.
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I have a strange feeling QPR will manage to finish in the 2nd automatic promotion spot. And every unsuccesful club in the play offs will sue the feck out of them.
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I expect the FA are waiting for the cheque to clear...
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I think they will get a fine.
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I have a strange feeling QPR will manage to finish in the 2nd automatic promotion spot. And every unsuccesful club in the play offs will sue the feck out of them.
They won't becuase I do not think there is a set tariff of points-deduction.
The FA will wriggle out of it by doing a small points-deduction and a large fine. Everyone's honour remains intact .... ho, hum. The system stinks.
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The FA will bottle it as usual. If they deduct sufficient points to deprive QPR of the Championship trophy, or worse still to put them into the play-offs, QPR will appeal, probably using the West Ham case as a precedent, and it will drag on for weeks, screwing up all the play-offs. Having left things so late to deal with it the FA have yet again shot themselves in the foot. My guess is they'll fine them and deduct points to coincidentally leave them on the same number of points as Norwich but still going up as Champions on goal difference.
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My guess is they'll fine them and deduct points to coincidentally leave them on the same number of points as Norwich but still going up as Champions on goal difference.
My guess too. Didn't they finish six points ahead of Norwich? So it'll be six points deducted, or five, and no actual harm done.
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My guess is they'll fine them and deduct points to coincidentally leave them on the same number of points as Norwich but still going up as Champions on goal difference.
My guess too. Didn't they finish six points ahead of Norwich? So it'll be six points deducted, or five, and no actual harm done.
5 points ahead with one game to go - hence the delay in announcing it
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The FA are gutless. When West Ham did it, the rules on third party ownership were sketchy at best. Now it is black and white.
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They're being presented with the trophy after their last match and will be parading it around the ground.
Yes, it was approved by the FA.
Tells you everything you need to know.
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The FA are gutless. When West Ham did it, the rules on third party ownership were sketchy at best. Now it is black and white.
but the crux of their argument is that when the transfer was made the rules weren't black and white, and the deal was cleared by both the football league and the fa.
the fa have dug their own hole here re: the timing. this should have been hammered out months ago.
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I think they will get a fine.
Oh no !! they wont be able to afford to pay it
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They're being presented with the trophy after their last match and will be parading it around the ground.
Yes, it was approved by the FA.
Tells you everything you need to know.
and if they wern't that would also say a lot. At the end of the day regardless of the decision they are champions as they have been the best team over the season.... a decision from above can't change that only take away soem of those points they have won.
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When West Ham did it it was just as black and white. They should have had a 20 point deduction Tevez and Mascherano should have been banned for a year and the clubs they were then playing for also deducted 10 points a piece. But we all know why that didn't happen, don't we?
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if it was anyone else other than a cockerney club, they would be slaughtered...
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If somebody like Cardiff misses out due to a smaller deduction could they sue a la Sheffield United and West Ham?
They would be well advised to keep quiet about the matter.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/05/cardiff-city-qpr-third-party-ownership
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Seems crazy that teams in the same division are subject to different rules of different FA's
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Maybe they'll have the deduction next season?
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You can almost guarantee Ken Bates will be the first to kick up a shitstorm now he's sorted out the ownership issue at Leeds.
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Maybe they'll have the deduction next season?
-7 points and bottom in August. That'll do.
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While we're on Leeds didn't Bates state under oath he didn't know who they're owners were? And then, whilst on the cusp of promotion play offs the owners decide to sell to Bates.
Please move away there's nothing to see here.
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Found guilty, will be fined, no points deduction. - BBC "understands"
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That's twice now that teams have blatantly broken the rules and only had a minimal fine compared to the prize money of the Premiership. What is to stop other teams doing that now?
The FA really are spineless ******.
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Now confirmed in an FA statement.
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FA.
What a bunch of toothless tarts.
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To be fair Sheff Utd were relegated because the FA didn't deduct west ham Points.
it would have been a kick in the bollocks to deduct them points. Doesn't make it fair but that's life
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FA.
What a bunch of toothless tarts.
I do agree with this also
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They've been found guilty of 2 charges - what is the punishment exactly?
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They've been found guilty of 2 charges - what is the punishment exactly?
No mention in the BBC article. They're owned by the richest guy in the world though so a fine would basically mean there's no punishment.
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I'm pleased for them as my brother is a QPR supporter and it's one of my favourite away grounds.
I'm most impressed that my brother has just sent me a photo of Mick Jones from The clash saying hi to me taken at the game today!
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As said earlier, spineless
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725k fine. So.. that's pocket change to them.
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I'm pleased for them as my brother is a QPR supporter and it's one of my favourite away grounds.
I'm most impressed that my brother has just sent me a photo of Mick Jones from The clash saying hi to me taken at the game today!
Top Geezer M Jones
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West Ham incident set the precedent here, although it would have been funny to see the reaction of Colin Wanker had the FA done to QPR what he felt they should have done to West Ham.
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You break the rules and gain c £60m and so as punishment you're fined £800k. WTF?