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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rip Van We Go Again on May 04, 2011, 04:31:08 PM
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Nigel Reo-Coker's agent has denied claims that he has rejected a new contract offer from Aston Villa.
Local reports in Birmingham suggested that the two parties were in 'deadlock' over talks about Reo-Coker extending his stay at Villa Park.
But his agent Tony Finnigan has insisted that they have not held talks with Villa since last year, and they are waiting for the club to approach them.
"To suggest that talks are 'deadlocked' is just ridiculous and plain wrong," Finnigan told skysports.com.
"The last set of talks we had with Villa was in December and at the time, rightly so, they stated that all contract talks would be put on hold until their Premier League status was confirmed.
"Now we are respectfully waiting for the club to come back to us, but there is no getting away from the fact Nigel is out of contract at the end of the season.
"If Nigel does leave Villa, then he would be the biggest English Bosman of the summer and at the age of just 26 would be one of the most in-demand ever.
"That is just the facts of where we are at the moment, but Nigel has enjoyed playing under Gerard Houllier - that is true so we are open minded about the situation."
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So Napoli still haven't answered the phone...
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I'd keep him.
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I wouldn't mind him staying, but I would imagine he'll be asking for wages that are not in line with his ability.
He'll be off.
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Limited ability but puts in a shift I would keep him but no increase in wages. He will be one of many to leave in the summer.
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"Biggest English Bosman" - hmmm, rather melodramatic; agents talking up their product.
I like the subtle dig at MON "Nigel has enjoyed playing under Gerard Houllier".
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I for one would like him to sign a new deal and stay at the Vila but i suppose with the agents operating in the background trying to get more money for themselves then i think he will go.
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seems he needs to boost his agents fees from the chance of another deal with another club to me.
Newcastle and others are supposedly interested, perhaps he can't negotiate a good enough deal.
I'd like to see him stay if he is played but the new manager will have his own views, so who knows.
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Move him on and bring in Delph
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Fucking agents, as bad as bad bankers.
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Keep him.
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Self acclaimed best box to box midfielder in his own world. Which is pretty good because he can't pass, never seen him head a ball, can't go past people and as a midfield ball winner pretty average. Offers nothing we couldn't get cheaper and better. Another 8M Mon wasted!
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Self acclaimed best box to box midfielder in his own world. Which is pretty good because he can't pass, never seen him head a ball, can't go past people and as a midfield ball winner pretty average. Offers nothing we couldn't get cheaper and better. Another 8M Mon wasted!
Not impressed then, I take it?!
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Self acclaimed best box to box midfielder in his own world. Which is pretty good because he can't pass, never seen him head a ball, can't go past people and as a midfield ball winner pretty average. Offers nothing we couldn't get cheaper and better. Another 8M Mon wasted!
Harsh.
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Self acclaimed best box to box midfielder in his own world. Which is pretty good because he can't pass, never seen him head a ball, can't go past people and as a midfield ball winner pretty average. Offers nothing we couldn't get cheaper and better. Another 8M Mon wasted!
You're going to love Makoun.
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Limited footballer, spent most of his career on the bench or banished. £8m down the drain.
He'll want an increase and I suspect we can get better. With our managers future uncertain I really wouldn't renew anyones contract of that type. Only top players should have their contracts renewed
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Would keep him but not at a vastly increased salary and i reckon the club will think much the same so expect him to be off as he'll get a bigger deal elsewhere. Expect him to wind up at Newcastle or Blackburn.
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I'd let him go.
I think Makoun will be consistantly good next season and Delph will finally step up.
Keep Petrov as cover, Bannan aswell and use the Young money on a good attacking midfiielder who scores from open play and can pick up a pass.
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Self acclaimed best box to box midfielder in his own world. Which is pretty good because he can't pass, never seen him head a ball, can't go past people and as a midfield ball winner pretty average. Offers nothing we couldn't get cheaper and better. Another 8M Mon wasted!
Spot on. Jog on Nigel.
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We'll call a taxi cab for Nigel
We've got no fat contract for him
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Self acclaimed best box to box midfielder in his own world. Which is pretty good because he can't pass, never seen him head a ball, can't go past people and as a midfield ball winner pretty average. Offers nothing we couldn't get cheaper and better. Another 8M Mon wasted!
Spot on. Jog on Nigel.
Absolutely. As average as average gets. I am always mystified at how people laud qualities about Coker that I would consider the basics in a Sunday league player. It says a lot that people can actually remember specific good passes he has made or moves that he has been involved in when trying to claim he is any good. That tells you what he is like the other 98% of the time
Get rid please
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Self acclaimed best box to box midfielder in his own world. Which is pretty good because he can't pass, never seen him head a ball, can't go past people and as a midfield ball winner pretty average. Offers nothing we couldn't get cheaper and better. Another 8M Mon wasted!
Harsh.
Generous. He forgot to mention he can't score for toffee either...
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When we signed him I justified it as MON needing squad players and though he'd be in the stiffs after a season or two. The fact he's still sniffing around the 1st team is more a sign of how little we've progressed in that part of the pitch than the progress he's made as a player.
He's still a basic squad player. If he wants to accept basic squad player wages then we should keep him. If he thinks he's worth £40k a week he's welcome to find someone stupid enough to pay it.
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If Delph hadn't got his injury I suspect he would have spent the first half of the season in the reserves and been sold in January. I actually think he could have a role to play as a squad player and love the effort he puts into the game but we have better players here and there are better players available. Also if he stays he will block one of the kids coming through which should be avoided in my opinion. It feels like a bit of a waste of money in hindsight but it isn't my money so I won't lose sleep over it.
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He's an okay squad player, but will want ridiculous wages next year. I'd let him go.
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One of our worst players this season, humiliate publicly and march him out of the door...
If he accepts a reasonable offer - one that at least puts him on a parity with Habib Beye - I'd keep him. He's shown signs this season of maturing into the role he's always been destined for and my concern is, with Petrov surely moving on, Bradley unproven and unlikely to stay, Delph and Bannan still relatively inexperienced at this level and Makoun settling in, we'll be left with a lot of midfield holes to fill if NRC leaves too.
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Limited footballer, spent most of his career on the bench or banished. £8m down the drain.
He'll want an increase and I suspect we can get better. With our managers future uncertain I really wouldn't renew anyones contract of that type. Only top players should have their contracts renewed
bang On
Give Delph a run
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With all this bullshit about Italian clubs after him and the reality of English clubs showing an interest, he'll want a rise plus a hefty signing on fee.
And for what?
Although I think he makes a good member of the squad, I would want a better midfielder partnering Makoun/Delph.
So unless he's prepared to accept the same terms, which he won't, it's goodbye to the man who always looks like he's about to burst into tears.
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I wouldn't necessarily have him as a starter next season - for me it's Makoun plus a new midfield signing if we go with two in the middle, with NRC and Delph adding competition. Reo-Coker's 26 - another three year deal can still represent good value.
Still, as for what I think will happen, he'll go. He's so close to being a free agent now that I think the temptation to pull in a big signing-on fee will prove too much; to his agent, as much as anyone. I wouldn't rule out Spurs being interested.
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I actually think NRC, Makoun and Delph are an ideal trio to pick any two from to complement wide flyers like Downing, Young and Albrighton.
Nigel has been limited because he was the only decent tackler, put him alongside another battler and give them chance to bed in properly.
I am not sure if we can afford the luxury of an Arteta with two flyers on the outside and Bent up front. Success in attack and defence stems from a strong midfield, most of that is workmanlike ability-as Milner proved.
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Self acclaimed best box to box midfielder in his own world. Which is pretty good because he can't pass, never seen him head a ball, can't go past people and as a midfield ball winner pretty average. Offers nothing we couldn't get cheaper and better. Another 8M Mon wasted!
Forgot he can't shoot!
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Just read that supposedly he wants £80k a week, and his agent is claiming that is what he has been offered elsewhere!!
Personally I would not give him £20k a week!
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Just read that supposedly he wants £80k a week, and his agent is claiming that is what he has been offered elsewhere!!
If true, he can go and get fucked.
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anything above 30k then he can go fish!!!
Makoun and Delph for me!
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NRC Won't be the only one disallusioned by the wages on offer from other clubs. Be interesting to see how Arry gets rid of Keane and Bentley in the summer.
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anything above 30k then he can go fish!!!
Makoun and Delph for me!
I wonder if those two might work with the addition of the returning Hogg, who has been getting regular games for Portsmouth, to supply the NRC style bite when needed
I can see why a player like NRC is needed, but with his contract situation, he'll get a good salary and bigger signing on fee if he goes elsewhere, and we are goign to have to compete wth that.
He's a very limited footballer, so I'm not sure tying up 6 or 7 million pounds over three years in him is the best way to be setting about the wage bill.
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If we see players like NRC getting new contracts before the end of the season I would see that as an indication that Houllier plans to carry on. If it's already decided that he's going to either retire or move upstairs then I can't believe that the club will renew contracts for average squad members before the new man is in place.
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It says a lot that people can actually remember specific good passes he has made or moves that he has been involved in when trying to claim he is any good. That tells you what he is like the other 98% of the time
A little trip to the Guardian's Chalkboard may surprise you Richard. Either there or the opticians.
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Good squad player. No more. Has improved slightly this season but as others have already said, he'll want a first team / captains salary so it's tarrah a bit from me and no sign of a wistful tear in the eye about his departure.
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Hes ok for me, no more than that.Certainly not worth the supposed figure he wants.
Would rather keep Hogg tbh.Taking into account age and experience, not a great deal between them.
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If Spurs were to come in for him, why not have Palacios in exchange. Don't really rate him myself but he would be a squad improvement on Coker
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Just read that supposedly he wants £80k a week, and his agent is claiming that is what he has been offered elsewhere!!
Personally I would not give him £20k a week!
£ 80,000 a week. Thats hillarious.
Best of luck Nigel.
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If Spurs were to come in for him, why not have Palacios in exchange. Don't really rate him myself but he would be a squad improvement on Coker
We aren't in a position to exchange though are we? Reo Coker is on a free, and Palacios is under contract until 2014 having cost Tottenham £12M. Having said that, should he become available I'd certainly be happy with Palacios as a squad addition.
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a midfield of Hogg, Delph and Makoun sounds a bit defencive to me?? yes i would like Delph in so i would say Delph, Makoun and Bannan / Johnson as our midfield with Downing and NZogbia on the wings and Bent up front!
just thinking about all the options makes my mind fry but i honestly think youth is our future at Villa!
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It says a lot that people can actually remember specific good passes he has made or moves that he has been involved in when trying to claim he is any good. That tells you what he is like the other 98% of the time
A little trip to the Guardian's Chalkboard may surprise you Richard. Either there or the opticians.
I'll take Coker with me to the opticians in that case, perhaps that's why he can't pass or shoot straight - I don't read the Guardian so no idea what the chalkboard is but presumably it is some set of stats that tell me that Coker is, in fact, a better player than Xavi or Iniesta? Or some such other load of old cobblers. I don't need the Guardian to tell me just how woefully average he is Mark!
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Just read that supposedly he wants £80k a week, and his agent is claiming that is what he has been offered elsewhere!!
Personally I would not give him £20k a week!
£ 80,000 a week. Thats hillarious.
Best of luck Nigel.
It's obviously bollocks. I think he's on £30k atm. I'd offer him £40k and sell him in January, providing we can get somebody better in. Makoun can't tackle, Delph is still untried and Petrov a year older. At least we'd get some money in.
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He hasn't let us down but his quick departure down tunnel at final whistle might suggest
he is moving on -
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Does anyone know how things work when players are on a Bosman? Does the player in effect receive the equivalent of his transfer value that would normally be paid to a club?
So would NRC be expecting to get £6M...ish + his normal wages if he joins another club.
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Does anyone know how things work when players are on a Bosman? Does the player in effect receive the equivalent of his transfer value that would normally be paid to a club?
So would NRC be expecting to get £6M...ish + his normal wages if he joins another club.
They are free to negotiate whatever they can get including a signing on fee, it wont be £6 mil.I doubt if he will get a bigger club than us, Everton Fulham type deal.
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Looks like I'm in a minority, but I'd be very happy for him to stay. I've obviously missed something if Merv thinks he's been one of our worst players this season - I actually think he's been better than the majority of our squad when given the chance. Are the same people that slated GMac for taking NRC off last weekend now happy to frogmarch him out the door?
Wages issue aside given that none of us really know, I think is a valuable player to us and brings a bit of maturity to the squad. As for a new contract, surely the uncertainty over our league status is having some bearing on any delay?
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That's two of us then.
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I've obviously missed something if Merv thinks he's been one of our worst players this season
Go back and read the whole of that post of mine, and the subsequent others from me, and I hope you'll notice that was a ridiculously obviously sarcastic comment! It was in response to the opinions of those who don't seem to have taken his performances this season into account - one of more committed and consistent players.
I'd keep him. Thought I'd made that massively clear.
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..has anybody started a discussion about XTC yet?
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Apologies Merv, I misread (or didn't read) the full post. So that's three of us in the "keep" camp then.
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Yep, that's three. Who's with us, eh? Eh? Oh...
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Yep, that's three. Who's with us, eh? Eh? Oh...
Make that four.
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Five
Senses working overtime
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Six.
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Seven.
But I'd stop short of giving him an increase in wages, signing on fee fair enough.
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Eight
As long as not silly money
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Nine
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10
Or 11 if someone posts before this loads
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11- if he's willing to take a pay cut and help out with the after match catering.
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12 - If he comes round my house and cleans my car every week!!
Get rid of now!
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14 - I'm not taking 13, bad luck and all that.
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Five
Senses working overtime
Nice one adrenachrome ;)
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Bollocks - I'll be 15 then.
I'm not his biggest fan but he gives us something that will be difficult to replace. If his wage demands are sensible and he is willing to accept that he won't be an automatic starter then he is well worth keeping.
These comments almost seem like he hasn't had the interest he's wanted and that he is now actually looking to stay at Villa.
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It's still 15!
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Most of us have had an offer from Villa...for the season ticket!
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Maybe I'm stuck in the 90s but £30k seems a lot for someone who even those who want him to stay seem to want him to stay as a squad player. £30k a week is £1.5m a year!! For someone who will play a dozen times or so!
Sorry - I'd rather use the kids who are probably all on less than £10k a week.
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16, as many have said, for the right money. But he wouldn't be first choice for me, our new defencive midfield general Viera clone will be, with NRC covering for him and cleaning his boots.
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Amazingly he will reach 100 league apps for us if he plays today. Hard to believe better more famous Villans such as Ray Houghton and Garry Parker never broke the 100 game barrier.