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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rip Van We Go Again on May 04, 2011, 11:14:46 AM
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Burnley have confirmed Nathan Delfouneso has returned to Aston Villa after ending his loan stay at Turf Moor.
The forward has been allowed to leave the Championship club ahead of schedule after their play-off hopes were ended by defeat at Leeds.
Delfouneso, who has been named in England's provisional squad for this summer's Under-21 European Championship, scored just one goal in 11 appearances for Burnley.
Manager Eddie Howe told the club's official website: "Burnley Football Club would like to thank Nathan for all his efforts during his time with us and we wish him well on his return to Villa Park."
Delfouneso joined Burnley in March and his only goal came in the form of the winner at Hull on his debut.
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good...
pointless him being there when howe just pushed him out onto the wing and then hoofed the ball from back to front...
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I'd rather he was on the bench than Pires.
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Subject to Weimann's fitness and form, I suspect our Nath may well be packing his bags over the summer.
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Totally off topic but does anybody else think Eddy Howe is Craig Gardners double?
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I'd rather he was on the bench than Pires.
Yes, he always does well off the bench, which is more than can be said for Methuselah.
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Sorry to say that I don't he is good enough for the Premiership, I think he will be off in the summer.
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It doesnt suprise me to see people writing him off after being horribly misused on loan. The same people would have written Gabby off too after a similar experience on loan. It's way too soon to say.
He wont be going anywhere yet in my opinion and is still a fantastic prospect.
Hopefully he'll get a proper spell as a STRIKER somewhere next season.
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He is showing good progress from last season imho. Time will tell if he has "it" to succeed in the prem.
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I would rather have coming him of the bench and grabbing a winner for us than him being stuck out on the wing at Burnley.
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It doesnt suprise me to see people writing him off after being horribly misused on loan. The same people would have written Gabby off too after a similar experience on loan. It's way too soon to say.
He wont be going anywhere yet in my opinion and is still a fantastic prospect.
Hopefully he'll get a proper spell as a STRIKER somewhere next season.
Actually, my opinion has nothing to do with Burnley, I just don't think he is good enough.
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It doesnt suprise me to see people writing him off after being horribly misused on loan. The same people would have written Gabby off too after a similar experience on loan. It's way too soon to say.
He wont be going anywhere yet in my opinion and is still a fantastic prospect.
Hopefully he'll get a proper spell as a STRIKER somewhere next season.
Actually, my opinion has nothing to do with Burnley, I just don't think he is good enough.
Based on what?
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I would rather have coming him of the bench and grabbing a winner for us than him being stuck out on the wing at Burnley.
Exactly
A complete waste of time see also BB
Plus Bradley isn't played because he isn't up to the pace of the PL but we bring Pires on?
Fuckwitery in the extreme
Anyway hope the Fonz gets a bit of a go next season ahead of Ivanhoe
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It doesnt suprise me to see people writing him off after being horribly misused on loan. The same people would have written Gabby off too after a similar experience on loan. It's way too soon to say.
He wont be going anywhere yet in my opinion and is still a fantastic prospect.
Hopefully he'll get a proper spell as a STRIKER somewhere next season.
Actually, my opinion has nothing to do with Burnley, I just don't think he is good enough.
Based on what?
Difficult to be specific, but when he is played in the right position, he still looks lazy and doesn't seem to take up the right positions. Just doesn't inspire confidence. I would like him to prove me wrong.
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I would never describe him as lazy and his positioning is good WHEN he's used as a striker. Which so far in his senior career has been almost never.
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It doesnt suprise me to see people writing him off after being horribly misused on loan. The same people would have written Gabby off too after a similar experience on loan. It's way too soon to say.
He wont be going anywhere yet in my opinion and is still a fantastic prospect.
Hopefully he'll get a proper spell as a STRIKER somewhere next season.
Actually, my opinion has nothing to do with Burnley, I just don't think he is good enough.
Based on what?
Difficult to be specific, but when he is played in the right position, he still looks lazy and doesn't seem to take up the right positions. Just doesn't inspire confidence. I would like him to prove me wrong.
Agree Phil, let's hope he proves us both wrong !
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I think he'd be potentially good foil for Bent. In addition he's a decent finisher when he gets a chance. Give him some game time, hell, even the rest of the reason, up front with Bent. He'll learn a thing or two about positioning and making runs for starters.
I think he's stagnated. When he first burst onto the scene in Europe 2 years back I thought he'd progress quicker, but that hasn't happened. Why I don't know. I'm not entirely sure he'll be a top striker. I do think he's Prem quality given the chance but in all honesty, compared to Luke Moore when he first appeared, I don't think he's better. In fact I had higher hopes for Moore during his first couple of season, than I have for Fonzie.
Lets give him a couple of 90 minute run outs now we're safe (it's not mathematical, but seriously...no chance we'll go down. 0000.00000001%) and see if how he does with some extended game time.
What I will say for sure is that he's not a patch on Sturridge.
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For me the difference between Sturridge and the Fonz is the quality of the loan move - one went to a PL club playing as a striker and the other went to a Championship club and was played out of position. That's not to say Nathan is better than him, just that had those roles be reversed opinions may well be aswell.
I think 2011/2012 is make of break for him, which may prove difficult as far as he's concerned if we revert to one up front.
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I think 2011/2012 is make of break for him, which may prove difficult as far as he's concerned if we revert to one up front.
Would 2011/12 be his third make or break season ? This statement seems to get bounded about a lot for him. I'm not saying he isn't good enough but there is a danger we will be filing him under Moore. L.
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Very true, but for me anyway he's had a few years of cameo appearances and it's now when he needs to make a real impact or I doubt he ever will.
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Very true, but for me anyway he's had a few years of cameo appearances and it's now when he needs to make a real impact or I doubt he ever will.
Thats spot on.
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With Bent and Gabby plus hopefully another coming in it will be difficult for him. He is a decent enough player and has a goalscoring record for us that is pretty solid but I don't really see him getting much of a chance to make a breakthrough.
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Sturridge is nearly 2 years older than Nathan.
He's got a lot going for him but it's now time to show that he can move beyond being a good prospect.
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I suppose it all depends on who comes in to manage us.
If they prefer 4-4-2 to 4-5-1.
Or even if they rate him full stop.
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I remember when Gabby went to Sheff Wed. I would always get the low down on his form from a customer of mine who is a big fan of Wednesday. The reports that came back were not dissimilar to how the Fonz's career is panning out. That's not to say he will explode on the scene next season but it goes to show that if he's played in the right position and given a chance then who knows given that he is more skillful and has greater technical ability than Gabby did when he started and even has now.
The experience will have done him no harm.
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To be honest, I think a loan spell has done much better for Weimann then Fonz. He must have a should of playing a few games next season.
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Very true, but for me anyway he's had a few years of cameo appearances and it's now when he needs to make a real impact or I doubt he ever will.
Barely two years of cameo appearances, where he's generally done pretty well. Until he gets a run in the first-team we'll never know. It's a shame he didn't get a few more starts after the Fulham and Blackpool games. He missed a couple of chances at Fulham but scored at home to Blackpool, had another one wrongly disallowed and was subbed-off immediately after his goal. I don't think he's started since.
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I like the kid a lot, he has'nt let us down when he's played and he seems to have confidence in front of goal. I think he'd do better alongside Bent than Gabby, who just tends to drift out wide anyway.
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I'd like to see more from him now.
mon didn't fancy him and neither did GH, he said he needed to man up or something didn't he? Good goal against Blackpool and unlucky to have one other disallowed.
Would like to see him progress, I think he's got a better footballing brain than Agbonlahor
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MON did fancy him and was a big admirer. He was planning to use him a lot more this season.
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MON did fancy him and was a big admirer. He was planning to use him a lot more this season.
Careful now!
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In case MON and his super lawyers are reading, I meant in a completely homoerotic manner.
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Not sure whether he's going to make it but guess he'll have a clean slate underr the new manager.
Should've gone out on loan sooner in his career instead of playing reserve football and making the odd sub appearence.
I assume we'll see him in the last 3 games but then again I assumed Bannan would play against Baggies and he didn't even make the bench ahead of Pires...
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He's a bit like the brothers, has talent, good skills but there seems to be a key ingredient missing. For me he isn't agressive enough for a key position player.
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After watching them both closely I think Fonz and Bent can work
Have a look at Bents movement, he always drifts off the defender either in centre or towards far post and taps them in.
Fonz attacks the near-post, most of his goals he has scored have come from that.
I honestly think we will have the best natural goalscorer , together with potentially another in the same line up.
To me Gabby has had his chance, I am not saying get rid, but bench him and give someone else a long crack at it.
Give Fonz the last three games, pre-season and (if we haven't bought better) the first 7 or 8 of next season and see how he does.
It cant be any worse than Gab, Young or Heskey !
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I think him and Gabby would've been a good combo aswell.
Maybe he might develop into the link striker we're missing, someone who can drop back and take up the ball from midfield positions.
As I don't see anything that indicates he's going to be a 20 goal a season striker really.
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He's a bit like the brothers, has talent, good skills but there seems to be a key ingredient missing. For me he isn't agressive enough for a key position player.
Nope I agree. If you forced me to bet a thousand pounds either way right now, I would say he won't make it. It goes without saying that I hope I am spectacularly wrong
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I think he could be our link man between midfield and Bent but he haven't proven anything yet. would like him to go out on a season loan with a good footballing side as long he get regular football and used properly.
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I think 20 is still pretty young for a forward,so its harsh to write him off yet,especially as he hasn't fully developed physichally as well as match experience.
I've always thought he's been quite lively when he comes on,the blues cup game for example.
With Carew and possibly Emile off in the summer,he may get more of a sniff.
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what i find amazing is that people are writing him off at the age of 20 because he has played in fits and starts for the first team since the age of 17 years old, scored, and showed signs of his ability, yet marc albrighton and ciaran clark are hailed as future superstars even though they only really started playing for the first team since the age of 21...