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Title: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Villafirst on May 02, 2011, 07:46:00 AM
I think I'm right - we've never beaten  them at home since they came into the Premier League? If so, it doesn't bode well for Saturday!
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Legion on May 02, 2011, 07:55:38 AM
There's a first time for everything. We hadn't lost to the Baggies for 26 years...
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: WikiVilla on May 02, 2011, 08:42:59 AM
or Wolves for 30 odd years
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Mac on May 02, 2011, 08:56:01 AM
We need to beat Wigan.  Certainly not lose otherwise we need points from Arse and Liverpool
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 02, 2011, 08:59:53 AM
2005-06  0-2
2006-07  1-1
2007-08  0-2
2008-09  0-0
2009-10  0-2

Most disappointing was the final home game of MON's second season when we lost 2-0 in a mega piss poor performance, Mellberg's last home match and points dropped in the race for 5th. Although the opening day of the season last year wasnt great was it?
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: gervilla on May 02, 2011, 09:00:57 AM
Even Blues beatin us used be a relativly distant memory. This management team have really excelled themselves ,beaten by Blues, Albion and Wolves in the same season. When was the last time that happened ?
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Matt Collins on May 02, 2011, 09:13:38 AM
Depressing though it is, I wouldn't be distraught with a draw to keep them at bay. I reckon that would see us safe
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: andyh on May 02, 2011, 09:20:21 AM
Even Blues beatin us used be a relativly distant memory. This management team have really excelled themselves ,beaten by Blues, Albion and Wolves in the same season. When was the last time that happened ?

Apparantley....never !!!
But I haven't seen confirmation
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: gervilla on May 02, 2011, 09:22:04 AM
Even Blues beatin us used be a relativly distant memory. This management team have really excelled themselves ,beaten by Blues, Albion and Wolves in the same season. When was the last time that happened ?

Apparantley....never !!!
But I haven't seen confirmation

That alone shows what clowns GH and GMc are. Get rid if we want to avoid another season like this one.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: olaftab on May 02, 2011, 09:27:32 AM
There's a first time for everything. We hadn't lost to the Baggies for 26 years...
or Wolves for 30 odd years

Except this season we are hitting all the negative landmarks and no positive ones such as wins at OT, Emirates, SB or Anfield etc.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: richard moore on May 02, 2011, 09:51:32 AM
I'm not a great believer in this sort of thing, particularly when different players have been involved down the seasons

I think it is just one of those law of averages where there is always going to be one team you fail to beat at home who you should have done. I am not sure the modern footballer cares enough to look at this sort of thing and to let it affect them, most of our lot just wouldn't know how we had performed against Wigan in the past...
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: darren woolley on May 02, 2011, 11:02:30 AM
I still think we will beat Wigan at home i don't go in for hoodoos and that kind of thing i just think we will show up and be counted on saturday knowing how important this game is Wigan played well on saturday but i just think we will be fired up after losing to the stripey filth.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on May 02, 2011, 12:08:00 PM
Perhaps none of us should turn up then it'll be like playing wigan away. We'll defiantly win then  ;D
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 02, 2011, 12:12:54 PM
Maybe one of the reasons we went so lo
Even Blues beatin us used be a relativly distant memory. This management team have really excelled themselves ,beaten by Blues, Albion and Wolves in the same season. When was the last time that happened ?

Apparantley....never !!!
But I haven't seen confirmation

1962-63.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: VillaAlways on May 02, 2011, 12:13:09 PM
One team is playing for it's lives and the other team thinks it's already safe with one foot on the beach and a hopeless assistant manager in charge.Can't see our record changing against Wigan on Saturday I'm afraid
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: TaxDodger on May 02, 2011, 12:15:26 PM
The law of averages says we can't keep on not beating a team as poor as this at home. I'm very confident we'll win.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: eamonn on May 02, 2011, 02:38:18 PM
I'm not a great believer in this sort of thing, particularly when different players have been involved down the seasons

I think it is just one of those law of averages where there is always going to be one team you fail to beat at home who you should have done. I am not sure the modern footballer cares enough to look at this sort of thing and to let it affect them, most of our lot just wouldn't know how we had performed against Wigan in the past...

As grumpy as you are about football these days, I concur with the above.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Steve R on May 02, 2011, 05:17:08 PM
Maybe one of the reasons we went so lo
Even Blues beatin us used be a relativly distant memory. This management team have really excelled themselves ,beaten by Blues, Albion and Wolves in the same season. When was the last time that happened ?

Apparantley....never !!!
But I haven't seen confirmation

1962-63.

Also 1958-59, they all put 4 past us at some point.

It's a bit of a false statistic considering the number of seasons all four teams have been in the same division since the early 80s. Plus, of course, this season's defeat to Small Heath was a cup game. They did not beat us in the league.

A point against Wigan should make what is already a fairly safe position more or less cast iron safe. We would be out of West Ham's reach and two teams out of Blackpool, Wigan and Wolves would more or less have to win all their remaining fixtures.

I'd be more worried by Wigan if our home record against them read 5 straight 6-0 victories.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Pete3206 on May 02, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
Wigan are shit. They were thumped at Sunderland and struggled to break down Everton at home. Naturally, they'll win at our place.

Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: The Left Side on May 02, 2011, 05:25:34 PM
Can we get Nii Lamptey to come back just for this game?
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 02, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
Can we get Nii Lamptey to come back just for this game?

Great night that was.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: richard moore on May 02, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
I'm not a great believer in this sort of thing, particularly when different players have been involved down the seasons

I think it is just one of those law of averages where there is always going to be one team you fail to beat at home who you should have done. I am not sure the modern footballer cares enough to look at this sort of thing and to let it affect them, most of our lot just wouldn't know how we had performed against Wigan in the past...

As grumpy as you are about football these days, I concur with the above.

God, does it show that much Eammon? I have been grumpy for a few seasons now and Villa's abysmal displays this season have been the crowning glory on my grumpiness. I even found myself watching the Heineken Cup semi final in the rugby yesterday instead of Arsenal vs Man Utd...(especially for you Eammon as I know how much you like me little dots at the end there)
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: phantom limb on May 02, 2011, 10:34:46 PM
Whenever I think of playing Wigan at home all I can see in my mind is ten players standing in their own penalty area as we pass the ball around them and continually fail to break them down, with Chris Kirkland taking at least 10 minutes over every goal kick. Then when I watch them the following week hoping that they'll do us a favour against one of our rivals, they get beaten at least 8-0.

I hope that we can pull our fingers out and pretty much send them down. That's our season over and then I can try and forget any of this ever happened.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Ad@m on May 02, 2011, 10:45:57 PM
2005-06  0-2
2006-07  1-1
2007-08  0-2
2008-09  0-0
2009-10  0-2

Most disappointing was the final home game of MON's second season when we lost 2-0 in a mega piss poor performance, Mellberg's last home match and points dropped in the race for 5th. Although the opening day of the season last year wasnt great was it?

Last season's opener was one of the very few games I've actually found myself booing at the end.  That was such a thoroughly depressing game.

Thankfully I think we're already safe - Wigan need 7 points from 9, or Wolves and West Ham need 9 from 9.  None of those things will happen, even if we lose to Wigan.

After Saturday I'm can't see us taking another point this season - I just want the season to end immediately.

The way things are going, if GH isn't sacked pronto I'm not sure I'll be renewing.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on May 03, 2011, 10:41:52 AM
with mcallister "in charge", i couldnt see us beating wigans under 10s team, let alone a bogey team at home for a couple of years...
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: Villafirst on May 03, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
Even Blues beatin us used be a relativly distant memory. This management team have really excelled themselves ,beaten by Blues, Albion and Wolves in the same season. When was the last time that happened ?

2005-06  0-2
2006-07  1-1
2007-08  0-2
2008-09  0-0
2009-10  0-2

Most disappointing was the final home game of MON's second season when we lost 2-0 in a mega piss poor performance, Mellberg's last home match and points dropped in the race for 5th. Although the opening day of the season last year wasnt great was it?

So that's only one goal we've managed to score against them in 5 home games? How pathetic is that!?
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: not3bad on May 03, 2011, 05:13:21 PM
Ability wise I think this team is below where they should be in the league so it is a matter of the players fighting for some semblence of professional pride.  The Wolves result was a catalyst for a run of half decentish form which came to a shuddering halt on Saturday - hopefully the Baggies match will force at least one more better than average performance this season to see us lurch over the safety line.
Title: Re: Wigan results at home....
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 03, 2011, 11:15:59 PM
I think we'll finally beat them at home which in part will send them down, a bit like when we finally beat SHA at home at the 4th attempt and they got relegated two weeks later.

It's a baffling statistic though considering we've won our last four up there.
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