Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Olneythelonely on April 27, 2011, 04:37:52 PM
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Just got this idea from another threading, thinking about it, it might be pointless and boring but........
I'll carry on anyway. I was just thinking about British football teams that don't include their local area/town/city in their name. Someone said Raith wasn't a place so Raith Rovers is one. I can't think of any others, so over to you.........or not.
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Arsenal?
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Port Vale - but then they and Arsenal have had a location associated with their name at some point (Burslem Port Vale and Woolwich Arsenal (not their original name though, that was Dial Square).
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Airbus UK and TNS in the Welsh leagues spring to mind.
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Grimsby Town, they play in Cleethorpes
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Everton ?
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Hibs?
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Millwall?
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Arsenal?
At one point they were Woolwich Arsenal, but I guess they count now.
Anyway, not sure if they really count, but Stoke? Also, if you go by Chico's rules in the Brum v Manc thread in Off Topic, then Manchester United (Old Trafford being in Trafford and not Manchester). I also don't think there's a place called Crystal palace is there?
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Celtic ?
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Queen of the South.
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Arsenal?
At one point they were Woolwich Arsenal, but I guess they count now.
Anyway, not sure if they really count, but Stoke? Also, if you go by Chico's rules in the Brum v Manc thread in Off Topic, then Manchester United (Old Trafford being in Trafford and not Manchester). I also don't think there's a place called Crystal palace is there?
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Palace,_London
Apparently there is!!!
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Celtic ?
Glasgow Celtic?
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Queens Park Rangers.
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Albion Rovers?
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Forest Green Rovers
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Ooh I like this game, could even take it global as I was thinking yesterday during the Champions league game is Schalke a German City/town?
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Melchester Rovers
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Queen of the South.
Also the only league club in the UK mentioned in the Bible. Luke 11:31, Matthew 12:42.
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Queen's Park Rangers
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QPR?
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Oof, beaten to it.
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Queen's Park is an area, non?
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Probably, but I don't think QPR play there.
I see Everton were mentioned but that is an area of Liverpool in which they play.
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Will there be QI style klaxons if you get one wrong?
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Queen's Park is an area, non?
It was an area where most of their original players were from but never their home ground. Sheperds Bush Rangers just doesn't sound right, does it?
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Raith is an area of Kirkcaldy AFAIK.
Not sure Rovers play there but it is.
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QPR play in a mush in Shepherds Bush bush bush bush
No income tax, no vat
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Ooh I like this game, could even take it global as I was thinking yesterday during the Champions league game is Schalke a German City/town?
Schalke is an area in the city of Gelsenkirchen. No idea if they play there anymore but I don't think their 'base', the Veltins Arena, is based there. But if you look at their badge you'll notice it's a combined S/G for the area and the city.
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Technically, Bolton no longer play in Bolton
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Manchester United...
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Would MK Dons count?
I suppose it does have MK in the name but technically are the team still classed as being from Wimbledon?
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Ooh I like this game, could even take it global as I was thinking yesterday during the Champions league game is Schalke a German City/town?
Schalke is an area in the city of Gelsenkirchen. No idea if they play there anymore but I don't think their 'base', the Veltins Arena, is based there. But if you look at their badge you'll notice it's a combined S/G for the area and the city.
Aaaagh thanks for that, I always enjoy finding out facts like that about teams and places, im a nerd like that.
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Espanyol?
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Would MK Dons count?
I suppose it does have MK in the name but technically are the team still classed as being from Wimbledon?
No, AFC Wimbledon have been re-spawned
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Ooh I like this game, could even take it global as I was thinking yesterday during the Champions league game is Schalke a German City/town?
They do still play there. The Veltins Arena's about 10-15 mins on the tram from the city centre.
Schalke is an area in the city of Gelsenkirchen. No idea if they play there anymore but I don't think their 'base', the Veltins Arena, is based there. But if you look at their badge you'll notice it's a combined S/G for the area and the city.
Aaaagh thanks for that, I always enjoy finding out facts like that about teams and places, im a nerd like that.
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Sorry, put my reply in amongst curiousorange's post.
They do still play in Gelsenkirchen. The Veltins Arena's about 15 mins on the tram from the city centre.
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Everton ?
Is a place in Liverpool.
Arsenal?
There's a tube station called Arsenal now. Named after the club... but you still could argue it's a place if you wanted to be a pedant (like me!)
Albion Rovers?
Albion means Britain. Britain is a place.
Queens Park Rangers.
There is a place called Queen's Park in London, but they're not named after it... they're named after the Scottish club. So fair enough.
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Raith Rovers
Celtic
Rangers
Hibernian
Clyde don't actually play near the Clyde anymore.
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Foreign teams are easier...
Bolivar
The Strongest
Hearts of Oak
Vasco Da Gama
Corinthians
Internazionale
Independiente
Crvena Zvedza (Red Star)
Destroyers
many of these I remember from playing "Sensible World of Soccer" as a yoof.
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Well Chelsea actually play in Fulham and Fulham play in Putney (although the H&S borough) if the thread was to include teams that don't play where there name is then those 2 could be in it. Come to think of it, so would we if we'd stayed in Perry Barr.
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Orient did away with the 'Leyton' bit for a few years I think.
Corinthians? Hearts(I guess mid-Lothian's a place but they weren't named after it I don't think)?
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Perennial Scottish whipping boys - East Stirling.
Originally from Falkirk and now play their games in the town of Stenhousemuir.
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Orient did away with the 'Leyton' bit for a few years I think.
Corinthians? Hearts(I guess mid-Lothian's a place but they weren't named after it I don't think)?
Heart of Midlothian are named after this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Midlothian_(Royal_Mile)).
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Celtic
Rangers
They're actual names are Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic so don't count.
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Celtic
Rangers
They're actual names are Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic so don't count.
No they're not. Yes they do.
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Boca Juniors? River Plate?
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Celtic
Rangers
They're actual names are Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic so don't count.
Celtic and Rangers don't carry Glasgow in their name.
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Boca Juniors? River Plate?
Boca is a region of Buenos Aires.
The Rķo de la Plata (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈri.o še la ˈplata], River of Silver)—sometimes rendered River Plate in British English and the Commonwealth, and occasionally rendered [La] Plata River in other English-speaking countries—is the river and estuary formed by the confluence of the Uruguay River and the Paranį River on the border between Argentina and Uruguay. It is a funnel-shaped indentation on the southeastern coastline of South America, about 290 kilometres (180 mi) long.
(There is also a team called River Plate in Uruguay).
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Patrick Thistle?
Ross County
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Partick play in Firhill having left Partick in 1908. So they were named after a place, but no longer play there.
Ross County play in Dingwall. Ross and Cromarty is a 'registration council' (whatever that is) of Scotland, so still a place.
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Boca Juniors? River Plate?
Boca is a region of Buenos Aires.
The Rķo de la Plata (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈri.o še la ˈplata], River of Silver)—sometimes rendered River Plate in British English and the Commonwealth, and occasionally rendered [La] Plata River in other English-speaking countries—is the river and estuary formed by the confluence of the Uruguay River and the Paranį River on the border between Argentina and Uruguay. It is a funnel-shaped indentation on the southeastern coastline of South America, about 290 kilometres (180 mi) long.
(There is also a team called River Plate in Uruguay).
thanks; was definately not expecting a proper response, but you've clearly done your homework :P
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Well Chelsea actually play in Fulham and Fulham play in Putney (although the H&S borough) if the thread was to include teams that don't play where there name is then those 2 could be in it. Come to think of it, so would we if we'd stayed in Perry Barr.
Fulham do play in Fulham - Putney is on the other side of the river! You are correct to say that Chelsea also play in Fulham.
Someone else mentioned Millwall. Millwall is a suburb of the Isle of Dogs and it's where the club was based until it moved to South London. Millwall's (the suburb) other claim to fame it that it was the first place in the country to elect a BNP councillor!
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Shamrock rovers and bohemians in ireland anyway. Oh and finn harps.
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Without checking isn't West Hams location a bit dubious as well.
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Without checking isn't West Hams location a bit dubious as well.
They play in Upton Park, Newham. West Ham is a nearby part of Newham. While still called "Thames Ironworks" they were invited into, and won, the West Ham Cup so may have decided to rename themselves on that basis.
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Don't Chester City (do they still exist ?) play in Wales ?
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Ross County are located in the small town of Dingwall, population a little over 5,000. Yet they take on the name of a enormous region that stretches across from one side of Scotland to the other.
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Celtic
Rangers
They're actual names are Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic so don't count.
Celtic and Rangers don't carry Glasgow in their name.
I stand corrected. Not sure why I thought that.
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QPR Shepherds bush
Shamrock Rovers? ooops not Brits..
Thames FC?? but they've gorn.
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Reading that QPR were named after Queen's Park reminds me of the fact that Dunfermline are called The Pars because they were originally the Plymouth Argyle Reserve Side.
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Shamrock Rovers yes. And St Patrick's.
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Don't Chester City (do they still exist ?) play in Wales ?
Chester City went bust. The "new" Chester FC have just been promoted and play at the same place Deva Stadium. It crosses the border. The pitch is in Wales, the front gates and main office are in England.
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Queen of the South.
Also the only league club in the UK mentioned in the Bible. Luke 11:31, Matthew 12:42.
Genesis 23:4 "I am a foreigner and stranger among you. Sell me some property for a burial site here so I can bury my dead.”
Acts 8:28 "and on his way home was sitting in his chariot reading the book of Isaiah the prophet."
Psalm 80:13 "Boars from the forest ravage it and the creatures of the field feed on it"
Genesis 12:15 "And when Pharaoh's officials saw her, they praised her to Pharaoh, and she was taken into his palace."
Isaiah 41:17 "The craftsman encourages the goldsmith, and he who smooths with the hammer spurs on him who strikes the anvil."
Jeremiah 50:25 "The Lord has opened his arsenal and brought out the weapons of his wrath, for the Sovereign Lord Almighty has work to do in the land of the Babylonians."
No doubt there will be mentions of Hearts, Wolves and possibly Rangers too.
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No doubt there will be mentions of Hearts, Wolves and possibly Rangers too.
Might be getting The Bible confused with Lord Of The Rings. Easy enough to do.
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"Blessed are the Total Network Solutions for they shall inherit the League of Wales".
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Third Lanark. Play, or played, in Glagow and were named after thr 3rd Lanarkshire rifles regiment.
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Romulus - birthplace of Darius Vassell & Zat Knight
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Reading that QPR were named after Queen's Park reminds me of the fact that Dunfermline are called The Pars because they were originally the Plymouth Argyle Reserve Side.
Please tell me that second fact is anywhere near true.
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I think VillaSubmariner who has spent too much time in Convict Land, I wouldn't trust his fact.
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Clachnacuddin.
They have never been called Inverness Clachnacuddin and their name is gaelic for something like "The place where people wash their clothes in the river" or something equally bizarre.
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The Scots have a monopoly here..St Mirren
They have a Fan club in a pub on an island off Hong Kong..off the local ferry and into Little Scotland. Not sure how many fans get in there but great atmosphere.
Must open a Villa version sometime.
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Turning this around...
Belfast, Dublin, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London don't have league teams bearing their name.
Off the top of my head I'm struggling to think of any other major European city not represented in a league team's name apart from Lisbon.
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Don't Chester City (do they still exist ?) play in Wales ?
One stand of their ground is in Wales but the rest of the ground is in England. They may well have the only ground in the World to be spread over two states (as England and Wales are not actually countries),
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Turning this around...
Belfast, Dublin, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London don't have league teams bearing their name.
Off the top of my head I'm struggling to think of any other major European city not represented in a league team's name apart from Lisbon.
Are Sporting Lisbon just known as Sporting? Or something like that? I've always refered to them as Sporting Lisbon.
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Turning this around...
Belfast, Dublin, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London don't have league teams bearing their name.
Off the top of my head I'm struggling to think of any other major European city not represented in a league team's name apart from Lisbon.
Are Sporting Lisbon just known as Sporting? Or something like that? I've always refered to them as Sporting Lisbon.
Sporting Club de Portugal according to Wikipedia, I had no idea.
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Turning this around...
Belfast, Dublin, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London don't have league teams bearing their name.
Off the top of my head I'm struggling to think of any other major European city not represented in a league team's name apart from Lisbon.
Are Sporting Lisbon just known as Sporting? Or something like that? I've always refered to them as Sporting Lisbon.
Sporting Club de Portugal according to Wikipedia, I had no idea.
Oslo is another one.
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Juventus isn't a place
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Turning this around...
Belfast, Dublin, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London don't have league teams bearing their name.
Off the top of my head I'm struggling to think of any other major European city not represented in a league team's name apart from Lisbon.
Are Sporting Lisbon just known as Sporting? Or something like that? I've always refered to them as Sporting Lisbon.
Sporting Club de Portugal according to Wikipedia, I had no idea.
Never trust Wiki, it's Sporting Clube de Portugal.
We also have Beira Mar from Aveiro (worst designed new staduim ever. Google it)
Maritimo (Madeira)
Nacional (Funchal, Madeira)
Acedemica (Coimbra)
Naval Figueiro de Foz)
Rio Ave (Vila do Conde)
Isn't there a club in Argentina called Independentes?
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Turning this around...
Belfast, Dublin, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London don't have league teams bearing their name.
Off the top of my head I'm struggling to think of any other major European city not represented in a league team's name apart from Lisbon.
Edinburgh City FC. You see them turn up in the early stages of Scottish cup sometimes.
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Juventus may not be a place but Turin is. Which is where the name Torino comes from.
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Romulus - birthplace of Darius Vassell & Zat Knight
And me.
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So is Crystal Palace a permanent place (apart from possibly being an underground station)?
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Romulus - birthplace of Darius Vassell & Zat Knight
And me.
Romulus is a place, or, at least was a place that I and a few others on here frequented during the late 70's when the team Romulus was formed. I don't know if it has any connection to the football team but can't see any other reason why a team from Sutton Coldfield should be called so.
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Have we had...
...Fiorentina? (Firenze)
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Young Boys 1898
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Young Boys 1898
I thought they were called Young Boys of Bern?
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Deportivo Wanka are located in the city of Huancayo, Peru. They are named after the previous inhabitants of the area, the Wankas.
Look it up if you don't believe me.
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QPR play in a mush in Shepherds Bush bush bush bush
No income tax, no vat
The Trotters were from Peckham I think. Shepherds Bush was the home of the Steptoes.
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Young Boys 1898
I thought they were called Young Boys of Bern?
According to Wikki it's only us auslanders who refer to them as that. Their correct name is BSC Young Boys....Berner Sport Club Young Boys.
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So is Crystal Palace a permanent place (apart from possibly being an underground station)?
It used to be a big glass building, it burned down in 1936.
Romulus - birthplace of Darius Vassell & Zat Knight
And me.
Romulus is a place, or, at least was a place that I and a few others on here frequented during the late 70's when the team Romulus was formed. I don't know if it has any connection to the football team but can't see any other reason why a team from Sutton Coldfield should be called so.
I'm not sure it's a place, I assumed they were named after the mythical founder and first King of Rome, bearing in mind their badge has a picture of what looks like a Roman warrior on it.
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I like this thread by the way.
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Turning this around...
Belfast, Dublin, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London don't have league teams bearing their name.
Off the top of my head I'm struggling to think of any other major European city not represented in a league team's name apart from Lisbon.
Benfica's full name is "Sport Lisboa e Benfica", so they have the name of the city.
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There are four Belfast clubs in the NI top division, as DeKuip says none are named after the city. Linfield was originally a works team named after the factory they were based at. Glentoran isn't a place I don't think (and they play in Sydenham), and Crusaders obviously isn't a place name. The only one of the four Belfast clubs named after a location is Cliftonville (an area of Belfast).
Staying in Northern Ireland, until 1999 there was also Distillery, until they spoiled things by adding Lisburn to their name.
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Belfast Celtic used to play there.
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On a similar theme - there was Belfast Celtic until 1949.
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Two more in the Highland League:
Deveronvale are named after a river and play in Banff.
Formartine United play in Pitmedden, Formartine exists only as the name of a committee area of Aberdeenshire.
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Also, the French popular music combination "Astonvilla" have no historical connection with the borough of Aston.
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FC Fyn - Danish First Divison side based in Odense on Funen
AIK - Allmänna Idrottsklubben - Swedish Premier League side base in Solna, a municipality in Stockholm County
Syrianska FC -another Swedish Premier League club from Södertälje (they have an interesting Wimbledon-like history - look them up on Wikipedia like I did...)
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Hellenic (meaning 'Greek') play in South Africa.
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Do Aarhus play in Themiddleofourstreet?
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Oh dear. Ban him! Oh, he's the boss...
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Ajax?
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Do Aarhus play in Themiddleofourstreet?
Utter Madness
Ajax?
AFC Ajax stands for Amsterdamsche Football Club Ajax