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Title: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Lucky Eddie on April 26, 2011, 11:23:54 AM
Jairmans for me!




http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/13193665.stm
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 26, 2011, 11:26:33 AM
Against them fuckingbastardredcunts

I would be supporting the Gary Glitter Paedo XI

The enemy of my enemy and all that
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 26, 2011, 11:39:42 AM
I like Schalke. I hate Man U.

Not a difficult choice.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: WikiVilla on April 26, 2011, 11:42:20 AM
have to say I really want to see Barca stuff ManUre at Wembley & SAF walk off in a huff
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: VillaZogmariner on April 26, 2011, 11:43:21 AM
I want to see Raul score the winning goal in the final against Real Madrid, just to see how he reacts.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 26, 2011, 11:47:10 AM
Not watching it, but I hope the Boxheads beat them.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 26, 2011, 11:48:03 AM
Schalke v Whoever in the Final, please. Can actually enjoy the match without worrying about whether I am going to have to listen to Clive Tyldesley ejaculate live on air when the scum score.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: *shellac* on April 26, 2011, 12:03:55 PM
Schalke 2011 = ___________ 1982?
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 26, 2011, 12:07:13 PM
The time of supporting English clubs in Europe is long gone, other than harmless exceptions like Fulham.

The further Man U go in the Champions League, the further away from us they go.  So come on Schalke!
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Bald Eagle on April 26, 2011, 12:07:41 PM
Man.utd. For me. English team to beat a German team anyday. Fuck the huns.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on April 26, 2011, 12:17:36 PM
have to say I really want to see Barca stuff ManUre at Wembley & SAF walk off in a huff

This.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 26, 2011, 12:31:23 PM
Schalke v Whoever in the Final, please. Can actually enjoy the match without worrying about whether I am going to have to listen to Clive Tyldesley ejaculate live on air when the scum score.
Totally agree with this - and to be honest its bellends like him that stop me appreciating anything they do during the game

sycophantic slug

Imagine how many "that night in barcelona" he could wangle into his benile commentry

I hate them - if they were playing the Dog shit then i am sorry but i would be a nose for the day
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 26, 2011, 12:48:20 PM
"That magnificent night at Wembley"

** Vomits **
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: The Man With A Stick on April 26, 2011, 12:57:41 PM
Man.utd. For me. English team to beat a German team anyday. Fuck the huns.

Charming.  Germany is a fantastic country that we could learn a lot from.

Don't support the vast majority of English clubs in Europe and fail to see why I should, so come on Schalke.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: not3bad on April 26, 2011, 01:03:03 PM
So there isn't a "Don't care" option?
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: WikiVilla on April 26, 2011, 01:06:10 PM
Is there a Spurs option ?
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Lucky Eddie on April 26, 2011, 01:07:35 PM
So there isn't a "Don't care" option?

Don't read the thread was your option. You can't have a 'don't care' option because one of them has to go through to the final; it's called knock out cup football.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Lambert and Payne on April 26, 2011, 01:12:59 PM
Germans for me, hate listening to them glory manure fans wanking off in there armchairs, then copying word for word what the commentator says the next day. Wankers
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 26, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
Man.utd. For me. English team to beat a German team anyday. Fuck the huns.

Who are Rangers playing?
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: usav on April 26, 2011, 01:33:46 PM
Schalke.   Just like I supported Bayern in the final agains them - although that didn't work out so well.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: VillaAlways on April 26, 2011, 01:38:59 PM
No Brainer, Schalke. I hate Manure more than Blues
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 26, 2011, 01:47:12 PM
A song for Europe ?

Quote

Club songs"Blau und weiß, wie lieb ich Dich" (Blue and White How I Love You) and "Königsblauer S04" (Royal Blue S04) are the official club songs.

Popular unofficial songs are

"Oppa Pritschikowski",
"Wir sind Schalker",
"Schalke ist die Macht"
and probably the most famous  "Steht auf, wenn ihr Schalker seid" to the melody of Go West.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: achilles on April 26, 2011, 01:49:33 PM
No brainer, can't stand manure!
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: NeilH on April 26, 2011, 02:03:49 PM
ABMU – Anyone But Man Utd. The mere thought of more success being handed to that lot makes my lunch rise up my stomach. I was once asked by a Man Utd fan if I wished I had been born in Manchester instead so that I could be a Man Utd supporter, which just about surmises why they don’t get it. I never have to  explain why I’m a Villa fan, I never have to give my place of birth as a Villa fan and I never ever get disparaging looks as a Villa fan (expect from local team rivals , which I can live with). I wouldn’t swap it for all the success they’ve had and I sincerely hope that they are royally shafted tonight.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: TheSandman on April 26, 2011, 02:10:13 PM
have to say I really want to see Barca stuff ManUre at Wembley & SAF walk off in a huff

A tempting option. Something like 8-0 would be most enjoyable.

That said I'd like some underdogs like Schalke to win the bloody thing.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 26, 2011, 02:13:22 PM
I don't think you have to be an "ABMU" to not want Man U to win.  If winning the Champions League was just about glory and achievement, I wouldn't begrudge them. 

Unfortunately, there's also the massive financial rewards that go with it, which tips the playing field towards a sharp incline.  It's this money that has really made the difference for the "Top 4" and meant they can afford bigger and deeper squads and monopolise the domestic league and cups.

So because winning or getting to the final would also serve to damage Villa, I just can't back them.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: VillaAlways on April 26, 2011, 02:13:49 PM
I was once asked by a Man Utd fan if I wished I had been born in Manchester instead so that I could be a Man Utd supporter,
I hope you answered " Since when have ManU fans come from Manchester"
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: NeilH on April 26, 2011, 02:27:06 PM
I was once asked by a Man Utd fan if I wished I had been born in Manchester instead so that I could be a Man Utd supporter,
I hope you answered " Since when have ManU fans come from Manchester"


He was a genuine Manc with a true dislike for the plastic fans, thus the gloryhunter comment would have been cheap and unfair. However what truly wound me up is this assumption that Man Utd fans are blessed and that all other supporters envy them. I have never ever in my life met any supporter who envies Man Utd and that’s what makes their misguided ‘fans’ so foolish.

And just to make it clear, I would support any team from any land in a final against a British club, as every time a British club fails it keeps the club I love in an elite group. Call me small time and petty, but that’s just how it is.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 26, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
And just to make it clear, I would support any team from any land in a final against a British club, as every time a British club fails it keeps the club I love in an elite group. Call me small time and petty, but that’s just how it is.


That's pretty much my take on it, too.

However, there are various levels within that "wishing ill on all British clubs" thing.

For example, I loathe Man United, and I loathe Chelsea, however, Chelsea winning the CL would be far worse than Man United doing so, as it would expand our exclusive club. I much prefer Arsenal as a club to Man United, for example, but I would rather they won the CL than Arsenal, for the same reasons.

However, why anyone who didn't support those clubs would actively want any of the English CL sides to win it is beyond me - all it does is exacerbate the financial gap between the most successful clubs and us.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: manic-road on April 26, 2011, 03:03:30 PM
Schalke 04 every time, i used to go and watch them a lot when i lived in Germany, so i still look out for how they are doing.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: richardhubbard on April 26, 2011, 03:15:54 PM
I just wanna see manc scum get thumped against  a Spanish team 4 nil at wembley!
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: DeKuip on April 26, 2011, 03:24:38 PM
I join the rest of Europe in hoping that the Premier League never gets another representative in the Champions League final UNTIL the greed-fuelled league, association and clubs start to put the interests of true fans at the top of their agenda. Greed should never be rewarded.

Good luck to Schalke - a club that finished 8th in Germany two seasons ago, and hasn't won a championship since 1958. Good luck to German football - I hope you reap the rewards for the way you treat your fans.

No doubt the atmosphere in Gelsenkirchen tonight will surpass anything witnessed at any English ground this season.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: john e on April 26, 2011, 04:14:47 PM
schalke for me as i'm a fully paid up member of the bitter against man utd club

but in a ideal world, i would pay a lot of money to see this happen -
Real Madrid get through to the final, Man utd think now they have a good chance of winning,
 0-0 into the 89th minuet when Ronanldo takes a dive in the box not a soft 50/50 dive but a proper cheating bastard dive like he used to over here,
Real win it  1 nil,  Karma
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: KevinGage on April 26, 2011, 04:18:40 PM
United already think they're in the final.

Schalke are there just as salad dressing apparently.

Don't know where this unjustified self confidence comes from TBH. That Schalke team contains a fair smattering of German internationals plus the likes of Raul and Huntelaar. The current United side is probably the weakest they've had for a while. Better United sides than this one have failed to beat ze Germans over two legs in the past.

It's the Boxheads for me. I hope they take them to the facking cleaners.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 26, 2011, 04:23:55 PM
I want to see Raul score the winning goal in the final against Real Madrid, just to see how he reacts.

Or, alternatively, Raul scoring the winner against Barcelona in the final, that'd be quite funny, too.

I love watching Barcelona play, they're such a wonderful side, but it'd still be good to see Schalke beat them in the final.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: D.boy on April 26, 2011, 05:07:32 PM
Tough one for me. I would love Shalke to knock ManU out however the thought of Barcalona stuffing ManU in the final appeals as well.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: The Left Side on April 26, 2011, 08:58:56 PM
Schalke for me as my buddy is from Gelsenkirchen but the winner will come from tomorrow's tie!
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 26, 2011, 09:09:55 PM
Schalke for me, Germany is a lovely country and I have no problem with them. Manure on the other hand, I cannot stand.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: The Left Side on April 26, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
Sadly now 2-0 for manure
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Hopadop on April 26, 2011, 10:28:08 PM
And just to make it clear, I would support any team from any land in a final against a British club, as every time a British club fails it keeps the club I love in an elite group. Call me small time and petty, but that’s just how it is.


That's pretty much my take on it, too.

However, there are various levels within that "wishing ill on all British clubs" thing.

For example, I loathe Man United, and I loathe Chelsea, however, Chelsea winning the CL would be far worse than Man United doing so, as it would expand our exclusive club. I much prefer Arsenal as a club to Man United, for example, but I would rather they won the CL than Arsenal, for the same reasons.

However, why anyone who didn't support those clubs would actively want any of the English CL sides to win it is beyond me - all it does is exacerbate the financial gap between the most successful clubs and us.


Dieses
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Clark W Griswold on April 26, 2011, 11:21:55 PM
I support anyone against Man U. They are the epitome of footballing evil.
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 27, 2011, 07:23:34 AM
Bugger  - looks like another CL final for them manx ******
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 27, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
No Brainer, Schalke. I hate Manure more than Blues

Absolutely. Whilst I can certainly appreciate what they've acheived as a team, it's their fans and the media that make me hate them.

The thought of them at Wembley, pissed up, spitting and hitting out at any Spaniard that happens to walk by, whether they be scarfers, women or children or just picking off individuals when they greatly outnumber them, make them in my book the scum of English football. It's not just young scallies, it's 40 and 50 year blokes. They really are complete and utter wankers. I've seen them here a few years ago against Benfica, marching through, pushing everybody out of their way, trying to provoke trouble, always against the innocent. My guess is they weren't so brave in places like Turkey or Glasgow. As recently as the FA Cup semi final they were at it again. This BlueMoon thread is well worth a read:

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=215963

As for the media, all they care about is Man Utd. Maybe it's down to advertising revenue based on all the wankers up and down the country that 'support' Man United but don't they realise they're killing the game from within. It's like no other team exists and they are determined to make Man Utd a 'superbrand' that represents English football. Somebody mentioned recently that all their cup games have been televised live. A recent midweek Guardian had 4 (FOUR) pages covering a win against somebody like Stoke. There were plenty of Championship games played on the same night but apart from the results, not a single word written. Everywhere you look, watch, it's all the media seem interested in; Man United.

How long this can go on for I've no idea. I really do wish they'd fuck off to some UEFA Plc European Super League and give us our game back. It wasn't so long ago, at the start of the season, you could seriously consider up to eleven teams that were capable of winning the league. Now it's a toss up between Man Utd and A N Other. Spain may have always been like that with Real and Baeca but England never was, nor should it be. TV revenue both from Sky and the Champions League plus the additional wealth from sponsorship have led to the rich getting richer, the gap between the top and the rest leads to an unfair playing field and there's no going back.

The Rags or Man United? The knuckledraggers don't even come close.

Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: VillaAlways on April 27, 2011, 02:49:32 PM
SSN pundits describing the game as a " Masterclass" from Manchester United and there was me thinking that it was just Schalke that were unbelievably shite
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 27, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
SSN pundits describing the game as a " Masterclass" from Manchester United and there was me thinking that it was just Schalke that were unbelievably shite

After 5 mins I said to my mate, Schalke are worse than Wigan on a bad day.  By the end of the game that had been changed to Newport County.  They were utterly useless.  If it had of been 7 or 8 nil it would have been about right. 
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: WikiVilla on April 27, 2011, 03:32:42 PM
How did they ever get to the semis?
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: not3bad on April 27, 2011, 05:32:40 PM
I really do wish they'd fuck off to some UEFA Plc European Super League and give us our game back.

Man, that would be sweet!
Title: Re: Mancs or the jairmans?
Post by: Bald Eagle on May 01, 2011, 10:26:34 PM
Man.utd. For me. English team to beat a German team anyday. Fuck the huns.

Charming.  Germany is a fantastic country that we could learn a lot from.

Don't support the vast majority of English clubs in Europe and fail to see why I should, so come on Schalke.
Stickman, quote was made in jest. Hope you havent been drinking to much at Moseley CC. Lateness of reply due to just coming off week of nights.
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