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Title: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 22, 2011, 08:30:59 AM
link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/8467252/West-Hams-Gary-ONeil-may-take-legal-action-following-tackle-by-Aston-Villas-Nigel-Reo-Coker.html)

Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 22, 2011, 08:36:57 AM
hmmm.......someone called O'Neil suing. where have i heard that before.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 22, 2011, 08:40:53 AM
Poor NRC.

Two scumbags with the same name that have given him grief. The name must keep him awake at night.

That Jon Jo jockey will be after him next.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Clampy on April 22, 2011, 08:56:01 AM
I don't remember too many West Ham players being up in arms about it at the time. I've not seen it back since, but it looked like a fair enough challenge.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 22, 2011, 09:00:06 AM
well halsey didn't take action so i can't see it progressing unless he admits a mistake. Just unfortunate really and in those situations you look for someone to blame i guess
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: villa1 on April 22, 2011, 09:12:24 AM
I don't recall it being shown in the highlights or anyone mentioning it? Surely if the tackle was that bad they would have done?
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: WikiVilla on April 22, 2011, 09:14:18 AM
Surely NRC will be insured against any risk in this respect
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 22, 2011, 09:17:44 AM
aye. think they'll struggle to get anything from this. From memory they have to prove it was with intent or extremely reckless to have a chance of winning and frankly if they take NRC to court for this, then 99% of the tackles in the premiership could be suspect if a player gets a career threatening injury
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: WikiVilla on April 22, 2011, 09:18:51 AM
Did Paul Elliott win his case vs Dean Saunders?
That was reckless mind
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 22, 2011, 09:24:51 AM
nah he lost it. there was players on both sides who disagreed with each other whether it was a bad tackle
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 22, 2011, 09:32:06 AM
It wasn't that bad, it was strong but that's it.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on April 22, 2011, 09:32:31 AM
That is a truly awful article. I can't see even the most vague or ambiguous premise upon which they base the story.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: midnite on April 22, 2011, 09:34:27 AM
If this was a none contact sport I could see grounds for suing. As it was deemed a fair challenge I can't see it happening.

No one wants to see a players career end early through injury. This seems like someone who wants to blame someone else.

Surely players are protected against such things otherwise nobody would tackle anymore.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: kipeye on April 22, 2011, 09:37:20 AM
That is a truly awful article. I can't see even the most vague or ambiguous premise upon which they base the story.
It is more that our favourite owners are trying to play their usual games of blame and distraction from their own failings.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: midnite on April 22, 2011, 09:40:14 AM
That is a truly awful article. I can't see even the most vague or ambiguous premise upon which they base the story.
It is more that our favourite owners are trying to play their usual games of blame and distraction from their own failings.

Absolutely!!!!
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on April 22, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
That is a truly awful article. I can't see even the most vague or ambiguous premise upon which they base the story.
It is more that our favourite owners are trying to play their usual games of blame and distraction from their own failings.

Absolutely!!!!

That is what I expected it to be about but I then read the story and it doesn't even have that.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 22, 2011, 09:59:57 AM
I very much doubt legal action will be taken. Even Sullivan isnt stupid enough to go to court with a case that cannot be won, and which any legal advice would warn him against pursuing.

On a general note, I always find talk of court cases for football injuries unsavoury. Chelsea fans constantly booed Dean Saunders long long after the Paul Elliott incident. Unless one player has committed an outright ongoing assult on another player away from the ball, something akin to a saturday drunken streetfight, there is no justification ever for such court cases.

Westham fans views here >>    http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_flat.php?5446627
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 22, 2011, 10:09:41 AM
I very much doubt legal action will be taken. Even Sullivan isnt stupid enough to go to court with a case that cannot be won, and which any legal advice would warn him against pursuing.

On a general note, I always find talk of court cases for football injuries unsavoury. Chelsea fans constantly booed Dean Saunders long long after the Paul Elliott incident. Unless one player has committed an outright ongoing assult on another player away from the ball, something akin to a saturday drunken streetfight, there is no justification ever for such court cases.

Westham fans views here >>    http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_flat.php?5446627


Doesnt seem no blame to NRC there.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on April 22, 2011, 10:13:17 AM
Speaking to whufc.com, O'Neil said: "It was a successful operation. I have got some joint damage in the ankle that they had to sort but I am told it went well.

"I am disappointed not to be involved for the last five games but I am looking to get back as fast as I can next season. I will be right behind the lads and I'll be cheering them on at the matches."

The early stages of his rehabilitation will mean a frustrating initial period where he has to rest the ankle completely but O'Neil is determined to bounce back quickly.

"I have got my head around the time scales involved for my comeback. I have just got to keep my foot up for a few weeks and then take it from there."
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Lambert and Payne on April 22, 2011, 10:15:06 AM
He plays in a game of football these things happen! This is absolutely pathetic!!
As an aside, why do West Ham fans hate him so much?
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 22, 2011, 10:24:36 AM
He plays in a game of football these things happen! This is absolutely pathetic!!
As an aside, why do West Ham fans hate him so much?

Probably for the same reasons we hated more of our players until 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Breezeblock on April 22, 2011, 10:46:15 AM
I remember the tackle, foot to foot with Reo taking the ball then the player. I also remember Beelzebub spouting some bollocks about pulling out after Reo won the ball which Reo would have had to have broken several laws of physics to achieve.  This is a non-starter.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: darren woolley on April 22, 2011, 10:57:37 AM
NRC never meant to do him harm these things happen in football I've been hurt in tackles when i played and i didn't want to sue an opposing player.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: rutski on April 22, 2011, 11:40:18 AM
there are times when suing needs to be done, in this case not.

I sued a player after he broke my tib and fib, dislocated my ankle and tore the tendons in a tackle. This was a challenge from behind on my standing leg and completely snapped it in two. i had a one year old boy, couldnt work as self employed builder for 6 months, finished my playing career and now have plates in my leg keeping it together.
i won the case but it will never compensate for what i lost!
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Ads on April 22, 2011, 12:58:39 PM
He played the ball. Fuck off O'Neill you glass footed fanny.

That's my legal opinion on the matter anyway.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 22, 2011, 01:12:17 PM
Saunders' tackle on Elliott was far worse, and he didn't get any punishment.

I don't even recall any West Ham fans going particularly mad at Reo-Coker after the tackle... and they hate him! I don't think any judge in the country would be able to say that Reo-Coker set out to injure him. Plus there's not a single quote in that article from a West Ham source about Reo-Coker. It's just Torygraph shit-stirring.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: eamonn on April 22, 2011, 03:08:19 PM
I wonder did Downing consider suing Petrov after he trod on his foot. Would have been interesting if he did, seeing as he joined us a couple of months later.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: mozza on April 22, 2011, 03:14:23 PM
If I were Nigel Iwouldn't be losing any sleep over the matter -

Hopefully the player's career won't be affected by what was a strong but fair challenge
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Michel Sibble on April 22, 2011, 06:09:00 PM
Wot the fack is 'e goin' to court foar? Dose norveners are a disgrace to the 'ammers shurt, the dozy cant...
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Chipsticks on April 22, 2011, 06:27:07 PM
What a twat, is that even legal? Surely the players putting himself at risk of injury by playing football?

God damnit if this is what football's coming to it's a good job Roy Keane's not still playing. Surely he could've been sued for this tackle if that's the case:
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: LeeB on April 22, 2011, 06:31:26 PM
He played the ball. Fuck off O'Neill you glass footed fanny.

That's my legal opinion on the matter anyway.

Agreed. I don't think he's got a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on April 22, 2011, 06:57:07 PM
I watched the game and I can't even remember it, That's how much of a bad tackle it was, NRC has done nothing wrong.

Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Michel Sibble on April 22, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
Not mentioned by NOTW or Match of the Day, nor by the Spammers themselves.

Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: The Left Side on April 23, 2011, 02:28:12 AM
As soon as I saw Sullivan's name I thought "here we go", anything to make the 'ammers seem hard done by and that it is someone's fault that they are going to be relegated.
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 23, 2011, 03:23:10 AM
If this thing ever got to court, or heaven forbid O'Neil won, then that's the end of tackling in football. It won't get that far because it was a completely fair challenge, not anything close to say what Scholes did the other day. Hopefully common sense prevails...
Title: Re: Legal action against NRC?
Post by: Mac on April 23, 2011, 07:58:06 AM
It won't go to court.  There is nothing in that story.  Possibly one aside from PornoDwarf desperate to make some money.  Nothing to see here.  Great journalism from the sub editor to put that headline on it, got people talking, otherwise no one would give a fuck.
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