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Title: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 10, 2011, 11:23:50 AM
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Gerard Houllier believes Aston Villa midfielder Nigel Reo-Coker can play a major part in his longer term plans.

Houllier is planning to hold talks with Reo-Coker, who is out of contract in the summer, over his future at the end of April.

His days at Villa Park looked numbered last summer under then manager Martin O'Neill with whom he reportedly had a training ground dispute 18 months ago.

But Houllier immediately drafted Reo-Coker into his starting line-up after taking charge in September and made him captain in the absence of the injured Stiliyan Petrov.

Houllier is reluctant to make any hard and fast commitments until Villa's Barclays Premier League fate is decided.

But he admits he is an admirer of former England Under-21 skipper Reo-Coker who moved to Villa from West Ham four years ago.

Houllier said: "We have said regarding players at the end of their contract, that we would review the situation at the end of April.

"But Nigel has been involved in every game. First of all, whether he plays or is on the bench, he's a good member of the squad, a good team-mate.

"He's very happy, very positive. He's a fighter. We have a lot of midfielders but he has been very consistent for us."

Houllier added: "Would I like Nigel to stay? If the opportunity comes, but everything depends on the next seven games.

"The future is seven games for the moment. Let's go over that hurdle and then we will see.

"First of all we need to be secure and then we will see.

"But I have shown him he is part of the plans. I like him, because he's a good trainer as well. I think he has improved a bit.

"In the dressing room, he is important. He's a committed player. He's got a desire.

"I think Nigel has played a great part in our season and I'm pleased with him. He's a very popular figure amongst the players."

Houllier disputes suggestions that Reo-Coker is difficult to handle as a player.

He said: "I didn't notice that. I've never found him difficult.

"I've had much more difficult ones (players) than Nigel in my career I can tell you.

"He likes to work, train, play. Everyone can be temperamental at times. Who isn't.

"I know what he's good at and I ask him to do that."

Houllier also reiterated his desire to retain the services of winger Stewart Downing this summer.

Downing has been in fine form for Villa and earned an England recall against Ghana last week when he was chosen as the official man of the match.

He has been linked with a move away from Villa Park.

But, when asked if he was looking to keep Downing, Houllier said: "Yes, we will keep him."

Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: freakypete on April 10, 2011, 11:31:30 AM
if downing goes it shall just proove how todays footballers are unloyal greedy bastards,he owes us we boght him when he was injured and from a relegated team
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 10, 2011, 11:34:16 AM
Seems Houllier is keen on NRC staying around.

All depends what division we're in and if Houllier is still here.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Irish villain on April 10, 2011, 11:34:27 AM
Finally GH beginning to say the right things. Had he started like that we may have a few more points on the table.

I have always liked Reo-Coker so I'm happy.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 10, 2011, 11:38:58 AM
reckon NRC will go back to london in the summer whether we stay up or not. Shame really, as he can do a job with the right people around him in midfield
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: JJ-AV on April 10, 2011, 11:42:36 AM
If Ash stays (not happening) and there's a big money offer I'd sell Downing. Quality player, inteligent and uses the ball well, but I feel the overall balance of the team may be better should we let one go, especially if we can reinvest the money wisely.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 10, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
I'd like both to stay, Downing has been excellent this season and Reo is a committed player.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Dave on April 10, 2011, 11:56:08 AM
if downing goes it shall just proove how todays footballers are unloyal greedy bastards
And if we choose to sell him would that just prove that clubs today are unloyal, greedy bastards?
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: luke25 on April 10, 2011, 12:07:07 PM
If Ash stays (not happening) and there's a big money offer I'd sell Downing. Quality player, inteligent and uses the ball well, but I feel the overall balance of the team may be better should we let one go, especially if we can reinvest the money wisely.
I agree that the balance does'nt seem rite with them both in there, out of the two i'd rather keep Downing though, I genuinly think he offers us more
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 10, 2011, 12:19:31 PM
I think NRC would be invaluable in a 3 man midfield (4-3-3), however, if we're going to play 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2, with 2 wingers, i'm not sure he's quite good enough.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 10, 2011, 12:54:43 PM
Agreed Fletch
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: themossman on April 10, 2011, 01:33:40 PM
if downing goes it shall just proove how todays footballers are unloyal greedy bastards
And if we choose to sell him would that just prove that clubs today are unloyal, greedy bastards?

Plus most of us have called him a poof since day one, plus we bought him for our good not his.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: darren woolley on April 11, 2011, 09:46:18 AM
Like i have said before i would like him to stay and Downing also he has had one of his best season in football on a personal level so i would keep SD i think we do need to bring players in but keep our best players is vitaly important.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Concrete John on April 11, 2011, 10:05:50 AM
I think NRC would be invaluable in a 3 man midfield (4-3-3), however, if we're going to play 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2, with 2 wingers, i'm not sure he's quite good enough.

I think it's the other way round.  If we're playing with a three in the centre you can get away without a specialist holding player (although I'd always prefer one) by benefit of the extra man and them all working hard.  With only two in there I think an anchor man becomes invaluable.

And that's what NRC is - a midfield anchor man who's job is to stop the opposition playing.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: damon loves JT on April 11, 2011, 10:14:59 AM
My prediction, for what it's worth: NRC is a perfect signing for a promoted team. So QPR, probably.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: not3bad on April 11, 2011, 10:31:12 AM
I think NRC would be invaluable in a 3 man midfield (4-3-3), however, if we're going to play 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2, with 2 wingers, i'm not sure he's quite good enough.

I think it's the other way round.  If we're playing with a three in the centre you can get away without a specialist holding player (although I'd always prefer one) by benefit of the extra man and them all working hard.  With only two in there I think an anchor man becomes invaluable.

And that's what NRC is - a midfield anchor man who's job is to stop the opposition playing.

Yeah I agree with this.  NRC is at his best when he protects the back 4.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: not3bad on April 11, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
reckon NRC will go back to london in the summer whether we stay up or not.

That would make his most likely destination Fulham, which means I think he'd stay if we could find the right deal for all parties.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: KevinGage on April 11, 2011, 11:16:26 AM
Fulham, QPR maybe Tottingham as an outside bet.

'arry has been keen admirer in the past, has tried to sign him at least twice.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them do something like sign NRC on a free and sell Palacios. I'm sure Levy would approve.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 11, 2011, 11:04:36 PM
reckon NRC will go back to london in the summer whether we stay up or not.

That would make his most likely destination Fulham, which means I think he'd stay if we could find the right deal for all parties.

He's going to look an attractive freebie for quite a few clubs. QPR are near enough up - they have a bit of money and being based in london could swing it. Saying that he'll probably end up 200 miles north of here
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: UsualSuspect on April 12, 2011, 08:54:58 AM
I would like NRC to stay, if decent money came in for Downing I'd probably take it.

he's had a good season but not a great one, I dont think we can say any player has had a great season based on our league position
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 12, 2011, 09:10:35 AM
Wasn't Downing quoted in the Meaning Evil recently as saying he would stay whether or not we were relegated.  I seem to remember admiring this stance.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 12, 2011, 09:12:22 AM
As for NRC I would keep him.  And how his attitude must have changed.  This time 3 years ago he seemed to be accepting us as the best of the rest when none of the top 4 wanted him despite the hype.  I would imagine if he could swing a new contract he would be absolutely relieved and delighted.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Monty on April 12, 2011, 09:13:14 AM
Wasn't Downing quoted in the Meaning Evil recently as saying he would stay whether or not we were relegated.  I seem to remember admiring this stance.

True or not, I'd like to point out at this stage that I love Stewart Downing. Not in that way, but still. Terrific, really terrific player who's been one of the few offerers of entertainment in this troubled season.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 12, 2011, 09:23:42 AM
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/04/02/stewart-downing-pledges-to-stay-at-aston-villa-97319-28445173/
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Monty on April 12, 2011, 09:29:23 AM
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/04/02/stewart-downing-pledges-to-stay-at-aston-villa-97319-28445173/

Legend. I mean, if we go down (shudder) and Liverpool offer the required money, he'll be off, but if we don't go down he will still be here, and in any case he sounds really grateful and respectful to the club.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: not3bad on April 12, 2011, 09:33:47 AM
Wasn't Downing quoted in the Meaning Evil recently as saying he would stay whether or not we were relegated.  I seem to remember admiring this stance.

Premier league player in loyalty shocker!  Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Pete3206 on April 12, 2011, 09:45:50 AM
Wasn't Downing quoted in the Meaning Evil recently as saying he would stay whether or not we were relegated.  I seem to remember admiring this stance.

Premier league player in loyalty shocker!  Fair play to him.

Except that Villa probably couldn't afford to keep him if we go down. And can you really see him sticking around if a Prem club came sniffing?
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 12, 2011, 09:49:02 AM
Call me naive but I actually believe him.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: Concrete John on April 12, 2011, 09:51:52 AM
Middlesborough was his home toen club I think?  Certainly where he played his youth football and he would have more loyalty to them than us, yet when they went down he left.  That's not a criticism as it is the right move for them and him, just as it would be for us if the worst happens.

Great sentiment, but practically speaking he should be sold if we got relegated.
Title: Re: Houllier on Reo Coker and Downing
Post by: WikiVilla on April 12, 2011, 10:02:35 AM
On the assumption we stay up, downing isn't going anywhere and we should offer NRC a new deal as to replace would be expensive unless fofana is coming in to play the anchor role ?
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