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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: oodman on April 04, 2011, 01:27:41 PM
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Looks like its all kicking off at Everton, and i wonder how much more moyes will take ?
He is a cracking manager and done quite well with the limited funds and players he has had at everton. i think he will do a great job for us ?
even if foolier does keep us up, which i think will happen, he needs to go and we need a manager like moyes to take us back where we should be and further
but... i think he is holding out for the man u job
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He's not going to get the Man United job in a bajillion years.
I admire him, he's a good solid manager, but he's not good enough for that job.
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Agree with Maz - he's no chance of Man U.
He'd be my choice if/when Houllier jogs on.
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Looks like its all kicking off at Everton, and i wonder how much more moyes will take ?
He is a cracking manager and done quite well with the limited funds and players he has had at everton. i think he will do a great job for us ?
even if foolier does keep us up, which i think will happen, he needs to go and we need a manager like moyes to take us back where we should be and further
but... i think he is holding out for the man u job
Isn't that what MON is doing?
Seriously though, I don't think Man Utd will have Moyes.
Also, as I've stated elsewhere, Everton fans view Moyes the way Villa fans viewed MON (when he was our manager). Some think he's done great and others aren't happy with the football being played. From a media point of view, they also think both managers are fantastic. I think if we got Moyes, we'd do as well as we did under MON, but maybe Moyes would have the bit of luck needed to win a cup.
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i thought everton played some nice football on saturday.
and the skill that beckford had to hit the bar at the correct angle, to make the ball bounce RIGHT ON the line was great :-)
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You do wonder where Moyes can go next. I can't see him gettimg one of the top 4 jobs so perhaps Spurs when Flash 'Arry gets the England blazer. He'd probably be tempted by the chance to work for Randy but I'm not sure there is going to be a vacancy.
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These days to get a chance of the job at Man United, Chelsea or Arsenal, you're going to have to have experience of managing in the CL.
That works against British managers, as in order to get that experience you really have to have worked at, errr, Man United, Chelsea or Arsenal, assuming you don't do a stretch abroad, and NOT be Harry Redknapp, who on character alone wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting any of those three jobs.
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Moyes probably would have got the Man U job a fews back after finishing 5th two seasons in a row (had there been a vacancy of course). His stock was its highest then, and he was always going to struggle to replicate it with Everton increasingly being outspent by a variety of teams. If we do stay up, I think he'd make the perfect choice for helping to rebuild us. Generally sound in the transfer market, and good at getting the best out the players he has. I think this summer he'd be ready to leave Everton as well.
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Moyes probably would have got the Man U job a fews back after finishing 5th two seasons in a row
They only finished 5th once under him, didn't they?
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Moyes probably would have got the Man U job a fews back after finishing 5th two seasons in a row
They only finished 5th once under him, didn't they?
Er no. 2007/8 and 2008/9.
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Moyes probably would have got the Man U job a fews back after finishing 5th two seasons in a row
They only finished 5th once under him, didn't they?
And fourth. I'm not sure if i've missed something here but what exactly is 'kicking off' at Everton?
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No they finished fifth the two times we finished sixth. I'm sure of it.
He reminds me too much of MoN with a slightly better eye for a bargain. He wouldn't be my first choice.
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My mistake - I was thinking of 4th as doing that twice would be what might get him a job like Man U!
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My mistake - I was thinking of 4th as doing that twice would be what might get him a job like Man U!
I think finishing just behind the "old" Big 4 of Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool was as much as he could reasonably have been expected to achieve. Plus of course he did finish 4th once as well as timeout correctly mentions.
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Ian Holloway is Gollum
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Ian Holloway is Gollum
nah, Ian Holloway is just a knob
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My mistake - I was thinking of 4th as doing that twice would be what might get him a job like Man U!
I think finishing just behind the "old" Big 4 of Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool was as much as he could reasonably have been expected to achieve. Plus of course he did finish 4th once as well as timeout correctly mentions.
Reasonable expectations are one thing, but excelling enough to get the Man U power brokers interested is something else. Being the 'best of the rest' wouldn't do it for them!
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My mistake - I was thinking of 4th as doing that twice would be what might get him a job like Man U!
I think finishing just behind the "old" Big 4 of Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool was as much as he could reasonably have been expected to achieve. Plus of course he did finish 4th once as well as timeout correctly mentions.
Reasonable expectations are one thing, but excelling enough to get the Man U power brokers interested is something else. Being the 'best of the rest' wouldn't do it for them!
There are too many variables to really say one way or another. Back then I'd say he'd have had a decent shot at it, but it would have depended largely on who else was available.
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Ian Holloway is Gollum
nah, Ian Holloway is just a knob
Bites tongue.
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Ian Holloway is Gollum
nah, Ian Holloway is just a knob
He is, further evidence of it here in his after match chat...
"You can have the ball and pass it around but it is all about putting it in the white thing at one end and not letting it in the white thing at your end".
Why didn't he just say scoring and not conceding?
Answer: He just can't help himself as his knobishness will out
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Ian Holloway is Gollum
nah, Ian Holloway is just a knob
Bites tongue.
why?
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Moyes would be a safe predicable option. Boring.
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Did I hear Alex Ferguson favoured Moyes as his successor or was I just imagining it?
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Looks like its all kicking off at Everton, and i wonder how much more moyes will take ?
What is kicking off at Everton?
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Looks like its all kicking off at Everton, and i wonder how much more moyes will take ?
What is kicking off at Everton?
Absolutely nothing, seemingly.
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Moyes would be a SAFE predicable option. Boring.
Oh to be safe again......
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Moyes would be a safe predicable option. Boring.
Disagree Tony, Moyes would be a breath of fresh air at VP.
He is relatively young still and knows how to create a decent team on not a lot of money.
Perfect I'd say.
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Moyes would be a safe predicable option. Boring.
Disagree Tony, Moyes would be a breath of fresh air at VP.
He is relatively young still and knows how to create a decent team on not a lot of money.
Perfect I'd say.
Said this the other day, but even his biggest achilles heel - inability to buy a decent striker (which sounds familiar from recent times) - wouldn't be an issue, as we've just bought a very good, extremely expensive one.
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Looks like its all kicking off at Everton, and i wonder how much more moyes will take ?
What is kicking off at Everton?
Absolutely nothing, seemingly.
I still think that if we want him, which I at least do, we should go get him and if that means being ruthless and seen as the bad guy then so be it!
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Moyes would be a safe predicable option. Boring.
Disagree Tony, Moyes would be a breath of fresh air at VP.
He is relatively young still and knows how to create a decent team on not a lot of money.
Perfect I'd say.
Said this the other day, but even his biggest achilles heel - inability to buy a decent striker (which sounds familiar from recent times) - wouldn't be an issue, as we've just bought a very good, extremely expensive one.
He'd probably sell him and buy Beattie to replace him.
I think he could do a decent job but I have an aversion to that whole dour persona that he has perfected and which is reflected in his teams that are hard working and functional but not that much fun to watch.
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Moyes would be a safe predicable option. Boring.
Disagree Tony, Moyes would be a breath of fresh air at VP.
He is relatively young still and knows how to create a decent team on not a lot of money.
Perfect I'd say.
Said this the other day, but even his biggest achilles heel - inability to buy a decent striker (which sounds familiar from recent times) - wouldn't be an issue, as we've just bought a very good, extremely expensive one.
He's bought some good strikers in Saha and Yakubu, it's just that injuries got the better of them. I tell you what though, in terms of buying cheap and getting value for money Moyes is pretty decent. Cahill, Pienaar, Arteta and Jagielka all bought relatively cheaply. Even Leighton Baines, who while not exactly cheap at £6m is now being touted for a £10m plus move in the summer. Compare that to all the expensive dross currently infesting our squad.
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Moyes would be a safe predicable option. Boring.
Disagree Tony, Moyes would be a breath of fresh air at VP.
He is relatively young still and knows how to create a decent team on not a lot of money.
Perfect I'd say.
Said this the other day, but even his biggest achilles heel - inability to buy a decent striker (which sounds familiar from recent times) - wouldn't be an issue, as we've just bought a very good, extremely expensive one.
He'd probably sell him and buy Beattie to replace him.
I think he could do a decent job but I have an aversion to that whole dour persona that he has perfected and which is reflected in his teams that are hard working and functional but not that much fun to watch.
Arteta, Fellatio, Cahill ?
To name buy 3 who would provide more entertainment than any of our 'like for like' players.
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I have an aversion to that whole dour persona that he has perfected and which is reflected in his teams that are hard working and functional but not that much fun to watch.
Oh Christopher Smith, sometimes you just make it too, too easy! ;)
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I know it would seem unachievable at the moment, and I havent given up on Houllier entirely although I can understand that others have, but I'd still like Hiddink. Weshould have gone for him when Randy took over. That's who I wanted then, who I wanted in September and who I'd like now.
Yes, he's a top manager but with no disrespect to Turkey, it's not like it's a top job so we could maybe entice him. That's best case scenario.
I'd still like to see where the Houllier adventure takes us though, (I dont think we're going down) otherwise Moyes would be fine. I do like Coyle too.
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I know it would seem unachievable at the moment, and I havent given up on Houllier entirely although I can understand that others have, but I'd still like Hiddink. Weshould have gone for him when Randy took over. That's who I wanted then, who I wanted in September and who I'd like now.
Yes, he's a top manager but with no disrespect to Turkey, it's not like it's a top job so we could maybe entice him. That's best case scenario.
I'd still like to see where the Houllier adventure takes us though, (I dont think we're going down) otherwise Moyes would be fine. I do like Coyle too.
Well, you've been banging on for Bent for most of the last four years, and we ended up with him, so who knows when it comes to Hiddink?
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I have an aversion to that whole dour persona that he has perfected and which is reflected in his teams that are hard working and functional but not that much fun to watch.
Oh Christopher Smith, sometimes you just make it too, too easy! ;)
I thought the same but as it's only Monday thought best to leave him in peace.
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Arteta, Fellatio, Cahill ?
Nevile, Nevile, Neville.
I'm not suggesting that they don't have decent players but I doubt anyone outside of Goodison has ever thought "Everton are on the box today, I'm really lookimg forward to seeing them".
He's a good manager, I think he could do a good job for us but let us not pretend he's something that he isn't. His sides are hard working and effective but are at the no frills end of the market. That might change given a bigger budget but I doubt it as I think they reflect his personality.
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I know it would seem unachievable at the moment, and I havent given up on Houllier entirely although I can understand that others have, but I'd still like Hiddink. Weshould have gone for him when Randy took over. That's who I wanted then, who I wanted in September and who I'd like now.
Yes, he's a top manager but with no disrespect to Turkey, it's not like it's a top job so we could maybe entice him. That's best case scenario.
I'd still like to see where the Houllier adventure takes us though, (I dont think we're going down) otherwise Moyes would be fine. I do like Coyle too.
Well, you've been banging on for Bent for most of the last four years, and we ended up with him, so who knows when it comes to Hiddink?
Good point. If you figure that I wanted Bent when he was at Ipswich we should get Hiddink in.... two years.
Then Andy Carroll in 2015.
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I have an aversion to that whole dour persona that he has perfected and which is reflected in his teams that are hard working and functional but not that much fun to watch.
Oh Christopher Smith, sometimes you just make it too, too easy! ;)
Martin O'Neill might be lots of things but you could not accuse him of being dour. Similarly he didn't pack his sides with 5 across the middle. I accept that we were very direct under him but that's not the same as being attritional which is how I see Everton.
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Why would Moyes leave Everton ?
Arent they just waiting for a rich Russian/Arab/Yank to pile in
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I know it would seem unachievable at the moment, and I havent given up on Houllier entirely although I can understand that others have, but I'd still like Hiddink. Weshould have gone for him when Randy took over. That's who I wanted then, who I wanted in September and who I'd like now.
Yes, he's a top manager but with no disrespect to Turkey, it's not like it's a top job so we could maybe entice him. That's best case scenario.
I'd still like to see where the Houllier adventure takes us though, (I dont think we're going down) otherwise Moyes would be fine. I do like Coyle too.
Well, you've been banging on for Bent for most of the last four years, and we ended up with him, so who knows when it comes to Hiddink?
Good point. If you figure that I wanted Bent when he was at Ipswich we should get Hiddink in.... two years.
Then Andy Carroll in 2015.
And Carlton Cole this summer. (shudders)
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Is this just another thread where oodman is saying that he wants Houllier out?
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Anyways I don't want Moyes I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to him
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I think Moyes has proven himself when it comes to buying midfielders and defenders, but although I can understand the strikers bit, lets not forget these are the players that cost the most money an he has had to work on a relatively limited budget at Everton. His sides are a bit 'workman like', but again the flair missing comes at a premium he may not be able to afford and he's still managed to get a few good footballers through the door.
Should Gezza go he's by far the best of the domestic candidates, IMO.
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Why would Moyes leave Everton ?
Arent they just waiting for a rich Russian/Arab/Yank to pile in
That might be a bit less likely with way the Global enconomy has gone. Suppose the Chinese might still be up for a footie club or two though.
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Anyways I don't want Moyes I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to him
Let's get Peter Kay in then for a few good one liners as we sink towards relegation.
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PL Football Clubs sit in a financial world of their own
While the TV money keeps flooding in, there'll be sheikhs & Oligarchs hovering around looking for a new toy
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Full list of Transfers In/Out at Everton under Moyes here (http://www.toffeeweb.com/players/transfers.php)
A few decent players, however a hell of a lot of dross too.
Also, he always seems to start every season shit.
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Why would Moyes leave Everton ?
Arent they just waiting for a rich Russian/Arab/Yank to pile in
Yeah, they've only been waiting for one for about 10 to 15 years now.
Not going to happen.
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The way all todays papers read he and GH are very good mates. How about GH moving upstairs and Moyes becoming manager?
Say what you like but even though we have a decent record against them, they always seem to knock the ball about and play good football. Who knows with RL backing him and GH finding the younger ones it could be the making of him.
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PL Football Clubs sit in a financial world of their own
While the TV money keeps flooding in
You seriously think it'll be like that forever?
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I think Moyes is okay but not fantastic and not sure he's the man to take us further than O'Neill did, although he's never had a decent budget to work with so who knows. His football isn't great to watch but better than O'Neill's in my view. Rather have Hiddink or more realistically Jol.
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I would really love to see Moyes down VP. Failing that, Coyle or McLeish.
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PL Football Clubs sit in a financial world of their own
While the TV money keeps flooding in
You seriously think it'll be like that forever?
No sign of it abating at present
If anything it's getting worse
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Come on David you know you want to come to B6!
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I have an aversion to that whole dour persona that he has perfected and which is reflected in his teams that are hard working and functional but not that much fun to watch.
Oh Christopher Smith, sometimes you just make it too, too easy! ;)
Martin O'Neill might be lots of things but you could not accuse him of being dour. Similarly he didn't pack his sides with 5 across the middle. I accept that we were very direct under him but that's not the same as being attritional which is how I see Everton.
Moyes himself is a bit dour, but his teams aren't.
That's one of the things that's impressed me about him, he has developed different styles over time. Their breakthrough season in 2004/04 was synonymous with them going away from home, going 1-0 up and completely strangling a game. Effective, but mind numbingly dull.
Then when we played them in 2008/09 at their place, their only tactic seemed to be to hammer the ball into the box at every available opportunity, hoping something would break for Lescott, Cahill or Fellani. Pretty much as close to anti football as you could find.
He must have had a Damascus like conversion since then though, as they've actually tried to play football. They were the better side for long stretches of the 3-3 draw at our place later in the campaign and most times I've seen them since they've been decent to watch and move the ball about well.
You'd wonder if he could have the same impact at another club. It might be hard to replicate the degree of effectiveness he's had at Everton elsewhere, as different team chemistry and dynamic comes into it.
It's also unlikely that he'd be able to bring his best players from there to his new club, should he depart.
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Chris, I'm not sure how you can accuse his sides of being dour when you were happy with MON. As Gagey alluded to above, Everton while still retaining a physical element to their game, are far better than us at being composed on the ball and more creative.
I do agree with you on his personality though, he's a right grumpy fecker.
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Anyways I don't want Moyes I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to him
*Listen* to paint dry, surely
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Anyways I don't want Moyes I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to him
*Listen* to paint dry, surely
Surely he's free to use whatever senses he likes in respect of drying paint in comparison to listening to Moyes?
I for one would rather smell paint drying than listen to Gerard Houllier, for example.
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Is this just another thread where oodman is saying that he wants Houllier out?
Yes it is. For a start nothing's kicking off at Everton, and everything said on this thread has been covered in "Who do you want".
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safe hands, boring hands,
he's been at Everton 9 years, can you imagine if he'd been a t VP for 9 years and won what he's won, and were finishing where Everton finish,
no thanks
its imposible to judge but i would bet Houllier would achieve more in 9 years at VP than Moyes would
they couldnt even beat us at home on saturday and we are shit
so he aint that great,
i know Everton had loads of injuries but it doesnt work for my argument so i deliberatly didnt mention them
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Ah, it's the annual let's get David Moyes in thread!
To be fair the team he had out on Saturday was missing Convict, Arteta and Fellatio. He's a solid manager, but I've never understood the clamour for him.
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Ah, it's the annual let's get David Moyes in thread!
To be fair the team he had out on Saturday was missing Convict, Arteta and Fellatio. He's asolidd manager, but I've never understood the clamour for him.
When we had O'Neill, it was probably a close call as to who was the better manager. Compared to the clown that we've got in charge at the moment though?
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Chris, I'm not sure how you can accuse his sides of being dour when you were happy with MON. As Gagey alluded to above, Everton while still retaining a physical element to their game, are far better than us at being composed on the ball and more creative.
I do agree with you on his personality though, he's a right grumpy fecker.
Eammon, I was happy with MON because of the results first and foremost and because of players like Young, Gabby and Milner it doesn't mean I couldn't see the limitations of his style but just that I didn't much care.
I said I thought Moyes could do a decent job and I certainly wouldn't be against him coming here should there be a vacancy but while he is somebody elses manager I reserve the right to dislike it. It didn't do Ron Saunders any harm being a miserable sod so I'm sure I could warm to him if he wins us the league.
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Yeah but paint smells ace anyway.
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A couple of things about David Moyes. One, I'm not sure if he is sexy enough for Man United. I can imagine they'd want a higher profile Manager than Moyes to take over from Fergie. An almost impossible task to be fair, and something that Moyes might think twice about. Two, Everton have the same glass ceiling as Villa do. The main difference between the two clubs is that Moyes would most certainly be backed in the transfer market if he were at Villa. Whenever Moyes has had backing, he seems to have purchased well. I'd quite like him at Villa.
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I still say GH will get us out of the mess we are in especially if we play like we did in the second half against Everton so although Moyes is a decent manager i don't see him coming to Villa Park in the near future.
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We will stick with Ged ..
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If MON had left sooner we would be discussing the why's and wherefores of Moyes first season at the club now. Of that I have no doubt.
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Yeah but paint smells ace anyway.
You thinking more of methylated spirits? Gloss for example is horrible
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Anyways I don't want Moyes I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to him
*Listen* to paint dry, surely
Can you actually listen to paint dry? I'm pretty much deaf after years of music abuse I wouldn't stand a chance
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Music abuse? More like self abuse.
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In a parallel universe Risso is demanding the immediate sacking of David Moyes
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Moyes would be a safe predicable option. Boring.
Disagree Tony, Moyes would be a breath of fresh air at VP.
He is relatively young still and knows how to create a decent team on not a lot of money.
Perfect I'd say.
Said this the other day, but even his biggest achilles heel - inability to buy a decent striker (which sounds familiar from recent times) - wouldn't be an issue, as we've just bought a very good, extremely expensive one.
He'd probably sell him and buy Beattie to replace him.
I think he could do a decent job but I have an aversion to that whole dour persona that he has perfected and which is reflected in his teams that are hard working and functional but not that much fun to watch.
Heavens above - I agree with Chris.
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Ian Holloway is Gollum
Maybe Ian Holloway is Gollum's knob?
nah, Ian Holloway is just a knob
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I think he'd crawl here on all fours to get the job. He's done a fine stint at everton so no-one (unless their a toffee) could accuse him of being disloyal and as has been mentioned unless he changes his name to Davide Moyinho he's got no chance of a top4 job. The chance to be pampered with a decent transfer budget and a new project would, I believe appeal.
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I know lot of fans rate him and want him to be in Villa Park's hot seat.
What can he do for Aston Villa ? Just interested to know.
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If MON had left sooner we would be discussing the why's and wherefores of Moyes first season at the club now. Of that I have no doubt.
I think it would have been Mark Hughes first season we would have been discussing.
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If MON had left sooner we would be discussing the why's and wherefores of Moyes first season at the club now. Of that I have no doubt.
I think it would have been Mark Hughes first season we would have been discussing.
I think now and this time next year we'd have been discussing both.
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If MON had left sooner we would be discussing the why's and wherefores of Moyes first season at the club now. Of that I have no doubt.
I think it would have been Mark Hughes first season we would have been discussing.
I think now and this time next year we'd have been discussing both.
That's confused me. Are you saying you think David Moyes and Mark Hughes will be co-managers of Villa this time next year?
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If MON had left sooner we would be discussing the why's and wherefores of Moyes first season at the club now. Of that I have no doubt.
I think it would have been Mark Hughes first season we would have been discussing.
I think now and this time next year we'd have been discussing both.
That's confused me. Are you saying you think David Moyes and Mark Hughes will be co-managers of Villa this time next year?
I think Hughes woiuld have lasted a season and we'd have had Moyes this summer.
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Maybe they could merge and we install former Villa defender David Hughes as manager?
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That's a tad harsh on Mark Hughes
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I predicted when we got Houllier that if it didn't work out we could end up with Moyes next Summer. It still wouldn't surpise me.
However, I'd prefer Coyle.
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I predicted when we got Houllier that if it didn't work out we could end up with Moyes next Summer. It still wouldn't surpise me.
However, I'd prefer Coyle.
Ditto but I can't see Colye leaving his beloved Bolton unless his relationship with the club changes ...
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Is this just another thread where oodman is saying that he wants Houllier out?
Yes it is. For a start nothing's kicking off at Everton, and everything said on this thread has been covered in "Who do you want".
Well if u read the papers they are all saying that he has no money to spend again and they plan on selling most of the top stars and moyes isn't happy
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I predicted when we got Houllier that if it didn't work out we could end up with Moyes next Summer. It still wouldn't surpise me.
However, I'd prefer Coyle.
Ditto but I can't see Colye leaving his beloved Bolton unless his relationship with the club changes ...
What, you mean unless another lass starts eyeing him up?
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I know it's popular to lambast us as impatient, fickle types at the moment, so out of keeping with all other football fans in that regard. But I reckon Hughes would have done a reasonable enough job so as not to merit the (mostly justified) criticism that has come GH's way this season. We'll never know, of course. Impossible to prove it either way.
But any manager that had presided over the results and at times woeful level of performance that GH has would also be copping (Kop-ing?) plenty of flak.
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Possibly a bit harsh on Moyes but after 9 years shouldn't he have got the club's finances under better control. It's not as if his parameters have changed during his stewardship.
In my mind the top managers grow the club in it's entirety (ferguson, wenger etc). In nine years moyes has not done this because he's either not developed a scouting or youth systems which fundamentally change the club. Basically he strikes me as being a good coach but not a great manager.
In many ways villa are similar to everton so I think we need a more revolutionary manager in charge. Arguably I think Houllier is closer to what we need.
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We have a much better set up than Everton, from top to bottom
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Possibly a bit harsh on Moyes but after 9 years shouldn't he have got the club's finances under better control. It's not as if his parameters have changed during his stewardship.
In my mind the top managers grow the club in it's entirety (ferguson, wenger etc). In nine years moyes has not done this because he's either not developed a scouting or youth systems which fundamentally change the club. Basically he strikes me as being a good coach but not a great manager.
In many ways villa are similar to everton so I think we need a more revolutionary manager in charge. Arguably I think Houllier is closer to what we need.
Well he was in charge when they sold Wayne Rooney for a then record fee for a teenager. But anyway, the only way a manager can indirectly affect the revenue of a club is by winning matches, which outside of the top 4, I imagine he's done more consistently than any other Premier League manager in the last few years. As for scouting, you'd do better to get better value for money than the likes of Cahill and Arteta.
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In a weird way Moyes probably hasn't sold enough players. He could have got 20m for Arteta at one point which could have allowed him to buy 3 or 4 more players (just as wenger did with Anelka/Overmars/petit etc and as clubs such as Udinese and Lyon do to such succes).
To be honest I'm not sure how tightly his hands are tied by everton's finances however they regularly get 40k fans in the ground so they should be able to compete.
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In a weird way Moyes probably hasn't sold enough players. He could have got 20m for Arteta at one point which could have allowed him to buy 3 or 4 more players (just as wenger did with Anelka/Overmars/petit etc and as clubs such as Udinese and Lyon do to such succes).
To be honest I'm not sure how tightly his hands are tied by everton's finances however they regularly get 40k fans in the ground so they should be able to compete.
They can't get the commercial income there, though.
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Aye, severe lack of executive boxes and the like, owing to the age and layout of the ground.
Which is a plus for me as a football fan, but obviously a big minus for the money men.
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Hence their desire to let Tesco (Sir Terry Leahy is a non exec at Everton) build them a new £100m stadium in Kirkby
I believe there is a 2nd submission closer to Liverpool in the offing
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In a weird way Moyes probably hasn't sold enough players. He could have got 20m for Arteta at one point which could have allowed him to buy 3 or 4 more players (just as wenger did with Anelka/Overmars/petit etc and as clubs such as Udinese and Lyon do to such succes).
He did sell Rooney and Lescott for big money. With Rodwell possibly to follow suit this summer. And constantly selling your star player has calls of lacking in ambition thrown your way as we've found.
Can't feckin' win can you?