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Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: Villan For Life on March 23, 2011, 09:31:41 AM
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The domestic season starts in just 16 days, Friday 6th April.
What are your hopes for the coming season or will county cricket be an afterthought until the Villa's fate is known?
For me, all forms of cricket are a welcome distraction and I'm looking forward to getting back to Edgbaston.
As Younis Khan is back in the Pakistani test side, we should cut our losses and go after Ricky Ponting. He's rumoured to be quitting international cricket before he is pushed and would be a great signing for the Bears if we have the cash!
Porterfield is a good signing but Tahir will be missed in all forms of the game.
Mid table for the Bears in the longer format, but we will be difficult to beat on the one dayers so I'm looking for a good limited overs season.
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As far as the Pears go I'm intrigued as to whether an essentially young side will be able to step up and consolidate in Div 1 or whether it'll be the same as 2 years ago when we were useless.
Be nice to actually compete to get to 20/20 finals day for the first time too
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Four out of four wins on tour for the bears! Including two wins over the Yorkies!
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Slightly concerned about how Yorkshire will cope with the loss of Jacques Rudolph's runs and losing the likes of Bresnan, Shahzad and possibly Rashid to England but there are plenty of good young bowlers at the club.
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Come on you Bears, how is Edgbaston looking?
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Come on you Bears, how is Edgbaston looking?
looking very good........click on the link
http://www.edgbaston.com/venue/ground-development/FebruaryUpdate/
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We definitely need some experience in the batting line-up as its unlikely we'll see much of Bell or trott. If Younis Khan is going to be missing also then its imperative that we get someone else in. how about Sammy?
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Bears need to get a batsman in desperately. Pakistan's test series in the West Indies finishes in May so can't we have Khan after that? Australia, New Zealand and South Africa don't play at all this Summer. Would like Graeme Smith, AB de Villiers, Mike Hussey or Brendon McCullum but not Ponting... he's a cock.
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Ponting is a cock, yes. But a cock who scores plenty of runs.
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Oooh the ground is coming on well, excellent work from daa bears
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Ponting is a cock, yes. But a cock who scores plenty of runs.
I agree Peter. He's the sort of player that you hate if he plays for the opposition but love if he's playing for your team. I've never had a problem with Ponting. He's a winner. He's not there to be liked, he's there to win cricket matches.
If the Bears get the chance to snap up the second highest test run scorer of all time then they should break the bank to get him.
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Agreed!
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http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/about-ecb/media-releases/player-availability,313602,EN.html
Availability of England contracted players or those who have just returned from CWC 2011, for the first few matches of the season. Bears get Bell and Trott for 3 county championship matches in May. Can't see them playing much for them after that!
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Agreed!
Thirded.
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The sun is shining on the first day of the new season. Pity the Bears aren't playing, Edgbaston is a great place to sink a few beers in the sunshine!
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The sun is shining on the first day of the new season. Pity the Bears aren't playing, Edgbaston is a great place to sink a few beers in the sunshine!
Even as a Bears fan I can say that Worcester is just as good, if not better, for sitting in the sun with beer.
I'm going to try a few local grounds in the Birmingham League this year as well, did a few last year, Stratford, Leamington and Himley are all highly recommended for a lazy Saturday in the sun.
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You're trying for every cricket ground as well as all the football grounds?? Good grief Dave.
Bit worried about having Botha as our top spinner, but it was the batting that was dreadful last year.
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The sun is shining on the first day of the new season. Pity the Bears aren't playing, Edgbaston is a great place to sink a few beers in the sunshine!
Even as a Bears fan I can say that Worcester is just as good, if not better, for sitting in the sun with beer.
Absolutely, one of my favourite grounds is Worcester.
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Sussex for me. Many an afternoon there watching Warwickshire and getting slowly wankered in the sun. Love it.
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Canterbury is my favourite "away" ground.
Loved it when they had the tree still within the boundary.
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The sun is shining on the first day of the new season. Pity the Bears aren't playing, Edgbaston is a great place to sink a few beers in the sunshine!
It certainly is.
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You're trying for every cricket ground as well as all the football grounds?? Good grief Dave.
And every beer.
I can think of worse obsessions.
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Five minutes to go. Zomerzet have won the toss and put us in. According to Wiki we should have Khan this year, but he's not in the team. Is he joining later or have we got no overseas star this year? If only our England players were 'mental' like Trescothick and refused to play for their country we would have a much stronger team!
Anyway... let's get this season started... COME ON YOOOUUUUUU BEEEEAAARRRSSS!!!
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Five minutes to go. Zomerzet have won the toss and put us in. According to Wiki we should have Khan this year, but he's not in the team. Is he joining later or have we got no overseas star this year? If only our England players were 'mental' like Trescothick and refused to play for their country we would have a much stronger team!
Anyway... let's get this season started... COME ON YOOOUUUUUU BEEEEAAARRRSSS!!!
We signed Younus Khan when he was out of the Pakistan squad and it looked like his international career was over. As such this was a good signing for the Bears. Khan is now back in favour with the Pakistani selectors and is in the squad for thier caribbean tour. As it stands he will join the Bears after the tour is finished at the end of May.
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Ah, ok cheers. Look forward to him joining. We need him to replace Walking Wicket Westwood who managed another mammoth 5 runs today. Bears 31/1.
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Huggggggggggggh Beeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrsssss
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Good day for the Bears, 393 - 6 a few minutes before the close with Varun Chopra 170 not out.
Need a consistent summer from the top order. We secured the highest number of bowling bonus points last season, largely thanks to Imran Tahir and Neil Carter. With Tahir back at Hampshire and Carter likely to miss half the season through injury, we could struggle to bowl sides out. The batsman can make up for the inevitable loss of bowling points.
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Good day for the Bears, 393 - 6 a few minutes before the close with Varun Chopra 170 not out.
Need a consistent summer from the top order. We secured the highest number of bowling bonus points last season, largely thanks to Imran Tahir and Neil Carter. With Tahir back at Hampshire and Carter likely to miss half the season through injury, we could struggle to bowl sides out. The batsman can make up for the inevitable loss of bowling points.
Warning! the batting strip is flatter than a day out at Weston.
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Got to be happy with that. good batting strip or not we would have been all out for 170 last season.
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Got to be happy with that. good batting strip or not we would have been all out for 170 last season.
Very true.
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Good work Bears. If we can post 550+, then great. I do worry we lack a bit of class in the batting and bowling.
Somerset to reply with 985-4 and us to collapse on the last day????
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I see Westwood is carrying on his cracking scoring form now he has relinquished the captaincy, a massive 5.
Still, can't complain so far.
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Well done Chopra
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Keep it going lads..and Woakes get your ton.
Warwickshire 523/7 (121.2 ov)
Somerset
Somerset won the toss and elected to field
Day 2
Warwickshire RR 4.31
Last 10 ovs 31/0 RR 3.10
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Current time: 12:53 local, 11:53 GMT First-class career
Batsmen Runs B 4s 6s SR Mat Runs HS Ave
*Ant Botha (lhb) 4 35 0 0 11.42 striker 136 4315 156* 23.70
Chris Woakes (rhb) 91 90 13 1 101.11 non-striker 51 1514 136* 31.54
Bowlers O M R W Econ Mat Wkts BBI Ave
*Steve Kirby (rfm) 18.2 2 68 1 3.70 (1nb, 0w) 132 470 8/80 27.88
Ajantha Mendis (ob/lb) 32.0 1 147 2 4.59 (12nb, 0w) 40 202 7/37 20.51
Recent overs . 1 1 1 . . | 1 . 4lb . . . | . . . 4 6 . | . .
Current partnership 31 runs, 10.2 overs, RR: 3.00
Last Bat V Chopra lbw b Mendis 210 (438m 348b 29x4 3x6) SR: 60.34
Fall of wicket: 492/7 (110.6 ov); Partnership: 123 runs, 24.0 overs, RR: 5.12
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I never understand how Mendis gets wickets. He bowls slow deliveries that don't spin. He varies his pace slightly, but that's it.
A huge score from the Bears and maximum batting points (2 bowling for Somerset). Wonder if we'll declare soon.
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Fair enough but...
BAW Mendis 32.3 1 150 2 4.61 (13nb)
...doesn't show him to ripping through us.
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Well done Woaksey and the team for getting over 600.
Warwickshire 603/8 (136.5 ov)
Somerset
Somerset won the toss and elected to field
Day 2
Warwickshire RR 4.40
Last 10 ovs 52/1 RR 5.20
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Current time: 14:29 local, 13:29 GMT First-class career
Batsmen Runs B 4s 6s SR Mat Runs HS Ave
*Andrew Miller (rhb) 0 6 0 0 0.00 striker 12 70 35 7.77
Ant Botha (lhb) 40 86 7 0 46.51 non-striker 136 4351 156* 23.90
Bowlers O M R W Econ Mat Wkts BBI Ave
*Ajantha Mendis (ob/lb) 39.5 1 174 2 4.36 (14nb, 0w) 40 202 7/37 20.65
Charl Willoughby (lfm) 30.0 4 111 4 3.70 (0nb, 0w) 210 778 7/44 25.39
Recent overs 1 . 4 . . 1 | . . . . 1 1 | . . 2 W . . | 1 . . . .
Current partnership 1 runs, 1.1 overs, RR: 0.85
Last Bat CR Woakes c Kirby b Willoughby 129 (186m 129b 18x4 1x6) SR: 100.00
Fall of wicket: 602/8 (135.4 ov); Partnership: 110 runs, 24.4 overs, RR: 4.45
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When was the last time we scored this many runs? Sheesh.
YOU BEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
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When was the last time we scored this many runs? Sheesh.
YOU BEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
the whole of last summer?
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Great innings from the Bears, now let's skittle some wickets
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Somerset 124 - 5 following a mini collapse.
Great match so far for the Bears.
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Six down at stumps. Hopefully we can force the follow-on and finish them off tomorrow, especially as Sunday is forecast to rain. YOOOOUUUUU BEEEAAAARRRRSSS!!!
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You Bears! Great to see your keeping an eye on things from afar The Left Side!
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Blimey! After seeing our score I was thinking this match will see two-innings on a flat Taunton track - Somerset declaring for 954 just after tea on the fourth day. Let's get a win from here!
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Good work Bears. If we can post 550+, then great. I do worry we lack a bit of class in the batting and bowling.
Somerset to reply with 985-4 and us to collapse on the last day????
Well, what do I know?
YOU BEARS!!!!!
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A lot of hype about Somerset before the start. I had Sunday marked down to go but would be happy if it's all over tomorrow.
Let's hope it's Chris Woakes' season. And Chris Woakes a Villa fan too. :)
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You Bears! Great to see your keeping an eye on things from afar The Left Side!
Absolutely Johnno, they even have the Indian cricket over here now, hope you're all good?
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A few stats:
Highest score by the Bears after being put into bat
Highest score against Somerset
6th highest score in the Bears' history
240 more runs than the highest total in all of the 2010 season
I'd like to see us take advantage of any early morning dew and mop up the tail in the first hour. The second innings will be tougher; Somerset won't roll over as easily so the more time we have to secure an innings victory the better.
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Somerset 210 all out and 30 for 5 in their second innings, Woakes has taken 9 wickets to add to his 129.
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Now 38 for 7!
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49 for 8
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50 - 9
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All out. Great start to the season.
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Bears win by an innings and 382 runs
Come on you Bears................................
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Great result, well done lads. ;D
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Great start by the Bears,Somerset were being tipped to push Nottinghamshire all the way.Looks like it could be a good year.
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How did that happen, great result for the bears and we are top of the league
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The sooner Chris Woakes gets in the England side, the better! 9 wickets and a century, not bad!
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The sooner Chris Woakes gets in the England side, the better!
Not for Warwickshire!
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Will be interesting to see who makes way for Bell and Trotty........I presume Westwood and Maddy ??
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wish we still had Immy, we could have really done something. Also big hats off to Porterfield, 45 in his first knock and 2 catches
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The fewer Warwickshire players playing for England the better, we need them at edgbaston.
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The sooner Chris Woakes gets in the England side, the better!
Not for Warwickshire!
Ah well. ;o)
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The sooner Chris Woakes gets in the England side, the better!
Not for Warwickshire!
Ah well. ;o)
But you're right, Woakes could be the all-rounder England need to replace Flintoff (note, I am NOT saying Woakes is as good as Freddie, not yet anyway).
He already has more first-class centuries than Eoin Morgan and can swing the ball when bowling, I'd like to see him given a chance against Sri Lanka.
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The future looks bright with players like him, Broad, Rashid, etc. My concern is more about finding a decent no 4 & 5.
On topic (ish): 50 all out is shocking, especially when you consider the likes of Kieswetter, Tres, etc. were playing.
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Well, I'm flabbergasted! Where did that come from?
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Well, I'm flabbergasted! Where did that come from?
That was my initial thought but looking back we finished last season well to get ourselves out of trouble.
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Chris Broad once remarked that he had 'run out of expletives' to describe a passage of play.
While it might not have been exactly what Broad meant, the phrase would have been perfectly apt in summing up the third - and final - day of Somerset's Championship match against Warwickshire at Taunton.
The pertinent points are these: Warwickshire beat Somerset by an innings and 382 runs. It is the sixth-largest margin of defeat in the history of the County Championship and the largest since 1921. It was also Somerset's largest defeat since 1895.
Afterwards Somerset's captain, Marcus Trescothick, admitted he was at a loss to explain his team's dreadful performance. "I'm baffled," he said. "It's not good enough and there aren't any excuses. We're all a bit confused by what's just happened."
As well he might be. For Trescothick had just witnessed his team - his team who went into this game as favourites to lift the Championship title - dismissed in only 88 deliveries. While that would be shocking enough on any occasion, it was all the more remarkable for the fact that Warwickshire had, the previous day, amassed 642. Somerset could hardly blame the pitch.
They couldn't really blame the bowling, either. While Warwickshire, the excellent Rikki Clarke aside, bowled impressively, they will bowl far better and concede 400. The truth is that Somerset's batting was awful. Quite wretchedly awful. Having lost 12 wickets in the morning session, and being forced to follow-on 432 runs adrift, it took only 10 deliveries after lunch to wrap up the game.
Warwickshire deserve credit, though. Their four seamers, working as a pack, bowled with far more pace and skill than Somerset's had mustered and managed to find life in a pitch that had previously appeared sedate.
Clarke was the pick of the Warwickshire attack. Bowling at a sharp pace and with excellent control, Clarke generated steep bounce from the hitherto sluggish surface and looked, by some distance, the most menacing bowler on either side. This was just the second five-wicket haul of his career, but it will not take too many performances like this before he's interesting the England selectors again.
Chris Woakes also impressed. Woakes, swinging the ball both ways, planted a seed of uncertainty in the batsmen's mind that grew to the size of an oak tree. He wasn't quite at his best but, having taken 6 for 85 in the first innings, he claimed three more in the second, including the crucial scalps of Trescothick and Kieswetter. Trescothick later referred to him as a "class bowler" and a "great player" in the making; high praise, indeed.
Woakes came within an ace of creating a little bit of history, too. Had he been able to take one more wicket, he would have become the first man to score a century and take 10 wickets in the same County Championship match since David Millns, an umpire in this game, did so in 1996. As it was, Woakes had to be content with becoming only the third Warwickshire man to score a century and take five wickets in a Championship innings since the war and the first since Dougie Brown in 2004.
The only clouds on Warwickshire's horizon are that Woakes looked in a little discomfort at the end of the game and Richard Johnson deputised for Tim Ambrose, who had pulled a muscle.
Somerset had far more pressing problems. Their attack looked toothless and their batting lacked backbone. If this third day was a test of character, it is a test they failed in embarrassing fashion.
They never seemed up for the fight. Instead of making Warwickshire fight for their wickets, the Somerset batsmen seemed intent on thumping boundaries and counter-attacking. It was, at best, a naive ploy. At worst, it demonstrated a lack of care. Really, this was an appallingly bad display. Their second innings score of 50 was their lowest first-class total since 1968 and the equal lowest ever against Warwickshire.
The lowlights? Well, Arul Suppiah leaving a straight ball - not an inswinger - might sound hard to beat, but James Hildreth's attempt to play another straight one through square leg was even less clever. Craig Kieswetter, perhaps forgetting that his job was to occupy the crease for a day-and-a-half, punched to point as he tried to force off the back foot and Charl Willoughby, looking as if he couldn't be bothered to bat, suffered a king pair in just over an hour of cricket as he first tried to slog one over the old pavilion and was then yorked by Clarke. Menawhile Trescothick pushed at an outswinger and edged to cover and Jos Buttler pushed at one that bounced and left him. Perhaps Nick Compton, who looked as if he may have got some bat on one that nipped back, can count himself unfortunate, while Peter Trego remained unbeaten in both innings.
It's worth reflecting on Gemaal Hussain's first game for Somerset, too. After conceding more runs than ever before, Hussain was dismissed twice, for a pair, within 89 minutes on the third morning. Might that be the worst debut in history?
Afterwards Warwickshire's new captain, Jim Troughton, was honest enough to admit that he, too, would have inserted had he won the toss, while Trescothick suggested little should be read into such a result. "We lost our first two games last year," Trescothick pointed out, "but still finished equal top [on points] at the end. There won't be any 'bad-boy' nets or anything like that. Those days have gone; at least at Somerset."
He's probably right. After all, Nottinghamshire suffered a similar reverse - bowled out for 59 - last year and still went on to lift the Championship. It is a long season and the odd hiccup is to be expected. But an innings and 382-runs? That's a mighty big hiccup.
Warwickshire, meanwhile, can feel very proud of themselves. After their travails last year, many pundits thought they'd face a fight to avoid relegation this year. Perhaps they might yet, but they've started in superb fashion and with Ian Bell, Jonathan Trott, Mohammad Yousuf and Neil Carter to come into the team over the next few weeks, can look ahead with a little more confidence.
A good read from CricInfo
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Mohammad Yousuf? I thought we were getting Khan?
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well done the Bears.
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I don't know if any of the cricketing H & V'ers are Unison members or have access to their members magazine (Mrs VFL is a member).
In the latest issue they're offering Unison members a pair of tickets to a championship game.
I've already filled out the form and sent it back. Hopefully I'll be at Edgbaston with 217 members and a bloke with his dog. Still it's free.
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Good bowling by the Pears: Bears 201 all out. Let's hope we can push home the advantage.
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Good bowling by the Pears: Bears 201 all out. Let's hope we can push home the advantage.
I disagree. Think Maddy and Ambrose are injured, otherwise we might have been able to drop Westwood. Yousuf batting for us, so we have definitely got him rather than Younis Khan.
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Mohammad Yousuf? I thought we were getting Khan?
Khan is with Pakistan in the West Indies, he should join up by the end of May
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Back down to earth with a bump.
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Better and better! Worcs 54-0 in 10 overs.
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Mohammad Yousuf? I thought we were getting Khan?
Khan is with Pakistan in the West Indies, he should join up by the end of May
Does this mean we will eventually have both? Surely then we can drop Westwood?
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Mohammad Yousuf who made his debut for the Bears yesterday is a cracking player. He's the guy who converted to Islam a few months after making his Pakistan debut. As Yousuf Youhana he was only the 4th Christian to play for Pakistan. A first class avergae of over 48 and a test average of over 50 shows the guy's class.
Younis Khan is still listed as our overseas player for the 2011 season so I would imagine that Mohammad Yousuf has been signed as a short term replacement. Given the perilous financial state of the county game this is a very good signing.
It will be a very important first hour for the Bears today. We need to exploit the favourable early morning conditions to have any chance of remaining in this game.
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Good day for the Pears so far
Worcestershire: 363-7 (103.5 overs)
Cant see the Bears getting out of this mess
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Couple of quick wickets, but still looking good for the Pears (376-9)
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Mohammad Yousuf who made his debut for the Bears yesterday is a cracking player. He's the guy who converted to Islam a few months after making his Pakistan debut. As Yousuf Youhana he was only the 4th Christian to play for Pakistan. A first class avergae of over 48 and a test average of over 50 shows the guy's class.
Younis Khan is still listed as our overseas player for the 2011 season so I would imagine that Mohammad Yousuf has been signed as a short term replacement. Given the perilous financial state of the county game this is a very good signing.
It will be a very important first hour for the Bears today. We need to exploit the favourable early morning conditions to have any chance of remaining in this game.
I think Younis Khan's contract has been annulled and we have only got Yousuf for six weeks.
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36-0 gotta hang on and ground out some runs bears
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Mohammad Yousuf who made his debut for the Bears yesterday is a cracking player. He's the guy who converted to Islam a few months after making his Pakistan debut. As Yousuf Youhana he was only the 4th Christian to play for Pakistan. A first class avergae of over 48 and a test average of over 50 shows the guy's class.
Younis Khan is still listed as our overseas player for the 2011 season so I would imagine that Mohammad Yousuf has been signed as a short term replacement. Given the perilous financial state of the county game this is a very good signing.
It will be a very important first hour for the Bears today. We need to exploit the favourable early morning conditions to have any chance of remaining in this game.
I think Younis Khan's contract has been annulled and we have only got Yousuf for six weeks.
I think that Yousuf is just covering for Younis Khan for these 6 weeks or so and that once that Pakistan tour of West Indies is completed, he will be free for Warwickshire.
So when we have Khan, Bell and Trott will Westwood still open???? :-). Although fair play to him for digging in this evening
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I don't think Khan is going to be playing for us.
Link (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/cricket/warwickshire-ccc/2011/04/12/yousuf-will-arrive-in-time-for-bears-opener-97319-28502617/)
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Saw them yesterday and sadly not enough time to make anything of Yousuf. Only Woakes after surviving a couple of scares looked the part, Troughton a little unlucky with his dismissal. The Pears bowled well (gritted teeth) it has to be said.
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Are we going to have the long-awaited H&V Cricket Day at Edgbaston this year? I fancy 5th June, against Northants in the Twenty20, as it's the day before my birthday.
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Are we going to have the long-awaited H&V Cricket Day at Edgbaston this year? I fancy 5th June, against Northants in the Twenty20, as it's the day before my birthday.
Sounds good to me.
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Are we going to have the long-awaited H&V Cricket Day at Edgbaston this year? I fancy 5th June, against Northants in the Twenty20, as it's the day before my birthday.
I'll check my shifts but sounds good to me.
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Another ton for Chopra. Word is that he has really come on over the winter. It'll be interesting to see who gets the chop for the games that Trott and Bell can play. Westwood and A.N.Other I imagine. Tough to drop the skipper!
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How many games will Trott and Bell actually be able to play this year? By all accounts they had an exhausting winter. Now both are firmly established in the One-Day and Test teams I doubt we'll be seeing too much of them.
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How many games will Trott and Bell actually be able to play this year? By all accounts they had an exhausting winter. Now both are firmly established in the One-Day and Test teams I doubt we'll be seeing too much of them.
They should play most of May and then we wont see them again I wouldnt have thought until we qualify for the 20/20 finals day, one day finals, etc
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until we qualify for the 20/20 finals day, one day finals, etc
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Go on, count them!
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A good recovery int he 2nd innings from the Bears in the derby. Lets get a lead of 300 - 350 and have two sessions tomorrow and try and win.
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Varun Chopra is in the form of his life. 210 last week against Somerset, 223 n.o. against Worcester today. That is some feat.
If he continues in this vein then we could potentially lose another player to central contracts.
As an England fan I'm pleased that young, English qualified talent is shining in county cricket. As a Bear it's a real feeling of mixed emotions!
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Completely outplayed by the Bears today. Ah well, back to football tomorrow.
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Great stuff from Chopra and the Bears!
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Chopra's average so far this season is 233.
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461 for 8 declared. Worcester need 288 to win. Exciting day in prospect. COYB.
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Certainly interesting now. Pears 123 / 5 at tea, needing another 165 (very very unlikely),
Bears need another 5 wickets (pretty likely).
Come on you Bears.
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pears 7 down now, come on Bears, take a bit of the frustration away from Villa's poor performance.
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120-9 come on you Bears
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How long do they play for, can't be long left?
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The Bears have won.
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17 overs left in the day
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199 All out, another win for the Bears, get in and after the Villa that is a right pick me up
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After the first innings I thought it was all over, coyb
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Go on the Bears.
2 away games, 2 good wins.
Good to get a load of points early on. Especially before a certain C Woakes is taken away from us.
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uuuuuuuuuuuuu BEARS........................................
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Hampshire v Bears on Sky today, 13.45 start.
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Poor bowling at the death by the Bears, with Barker and Rankin expensive. Rankin's last over went for 24.
275 to win will be a tall order.
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I know he got wickets against Worcs but I think Rankin is as average a bowler as Westwood is a batsmen.
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The Bears are still in this.
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21 off 12 balls needed.Woakes doing what he does best.
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15 from 6 needed.
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Unlucky Woaksie...........Great try
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Lost by 2 runs.Woakes is a star.
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Good effort yesterday.
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I fear for the pears this season, the batting line up is just not good enough at this level, and without a recognised spinner, i doubt we can bowl a team out twice in the same match. From the position we were in against the Bears after the 1st innings we should have at least held on for a draw. Shows how much we miss Shakib al Hasan and how instrumental he was in getting us promoted last year.
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Bears doing ok so far today
v Durham we are 205 for 3 (57.0 overs)
Chopra only made 23 tsk, tsk
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He'd better get at least 200 in the second innings.
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331 for 6 (91.4 overs)
Doctor Who...........75 no
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That's a good Omen.
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I fear for the pears this season, the batting line up is just not good enough at this level, and without a recognised spinner, i doubt we can bowl a team out twice in the same match. From the position we were in against the Bears after the 1st innings we should have at least held on for a draw. Shows how much we miss Shakib al Hasan and how instrumental he was in getting us promoted last year.
Agree, the batting has too many 30 and 40 merchants at the moment, need someone to be stepping onto 100+
Shakib and Ajmal are in later in the summer to take spin duties
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If we can score 55 runs off the next 84 balls, then we'd get maximum batting points....
Might be best just to concentrate on plodding along though.
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Woakes still at the crease and Rankin has his highest ever first class score.
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4/5 batting points gained, as we didn't pass 400 till after 110 overs had elapsed. 424 for 9 though, 75 made for the 10th wicket partnership with lunch approaching. Decent enough, Durham are a good side.
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The Bears need to think about moving Woakes up the batting order, maybe to six, he's definitely an all-rounder now.
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Great effort this morning. Woakesy really is a star. Not just the obvious talent with bat and ball, but also the great temperament he has for such a young player. May be a big comparison to make, but he has a touch of the Shaun Pollocks about him.
426 / 9 and we should at least draw this game from here, which would make it an excellent start to the season.
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Durham giving our bowlers a bit of a twatting at the moment. 61/0 off 14.3.
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The Bears need to think about moving Woakes up the batting order, maybe to six, he's definitely an all-rounder now.
Not yet, no point piling the pressure on him. He's made a great star to the season but at his age there's likely to be a dip at some pont. Let him be a bowler who bats a bit for now.
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We made a pretty good score, but I'm starting to get a little worried.
Durham are 154/0 with the hundred year old Di Venuto and the actor Will Smith batting.
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Durham 230 - 5 @ close
Not a bad comeback as the opening pair put on 164, they have gone from 192 - 2 to 230 - 5
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The Bears need to think about moving Woakes up the batting order, maybe to six, he's definitely an all-rounder now.
Not yet, no point piling the pressure on him. He's made a great star to the season but at his age there's likely to be a dip at some pont. Let him be a bowler who bats a bit for now.
I don't see there being a huge amount of pressure on him in LV games, if it was England then yes, keep him down the order, but for Warwickshire let him free his hands ahead of the likes of Ambrose and Clarke. (Saying that, I've just checked the scorecard and saw that Rikki Clarke scored 49 off 52 balls!)
Any road up, it's looking good so far this season.
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The Bears need to think about moving Woakes up the batting order, maybe to six, he's definitely an all-rounder now.
Not yet, no point piling the pressure on him. He's made a great star to the season but at his age there's likely to be a dip at some pont. Let him be a bowler who bats a bit for now.
I don't see there being a huge amount of pressure on him in LV games, if it was England then yes, keep him down the order, but for Warwickshire let him free his hands ahead of the likes of Ambrose and Clarke. (Saying that, I've just checked the scorecard and saw that Rikki Clarke scored 49 off 52 balls!)
Any road up, it's looking good so far this season.
I agree. How can he develop his batting when for the majority of his time at the crease he's protecting the tail? Move him up at least one place for the time being and see how he develops batting with a recognised batsman from the lower middle order.
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The weak link this season could well be the bowling attack. In the two completed championship games to date, Woakes and Clarke have taken 25 of the 40 wickets that have fallen. If we lose one of these two then we could struggle.
We need the likes of Rankin and Barker to share the burden whilst Carter is out of the side.
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1 of the 5 wickets was Onions, who I imagine was sent in as a night watchman.
Benkenstein and Blackwell are both pretty good all-rounders.
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Weather forecast suggests light rain throughout tomorrow in Durham.
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Durham 341/5 (95.0 ov) @ Lunch
Durham trail by 88 runs with 5 wickets remaining in the 1st innings
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No wickets this morning. Sort it out Bears!
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Two wickets in three balls for Rankin, that's more like it!
Durham now 385 for 7. We could still have a first-innings lead! We need a wicket in the next 26 balls or miss out on maximum bowling points.
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Warwickshire 429 & 45/3 (24.2 ov) a lead of 9 runs
Durham 465
Chopra, Yousuf and Portrfield gone already
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Will the weather effect this one?
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Now 4 down. What the f*ck is going on?
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BBC Cricket are very slow on the updates, anybody know a better website?
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I use Cricinfo
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I use Cricinfo
Me too........it updates every couple of minutes
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I use Cricinfo
Me too........it updates every couple of minutes
Much appreciated
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67/5.....we lost Clarke just after play began for the day and to make things worse they went off for rain ever since
We have a lead of 31
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5 down but it's raining. Need it to keep coming, only Troughton left of the batsmen.
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COME ON YOU RAIN!
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They have started again :-(
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67/6 Troughton gone for 0
Its down to Ambrose and Woakes
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69/7 Best gone for 2
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93/8 Woakes has gone
A lead of 57
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They need 9 runs, we need 8 wickets.
It's in the balance!
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Now six runs required for Durham. I wish we hadn't bothered getting them out yesterday. They would probably have got to 600 before declaring and we would have had only about a session to survive to get a tedious draw.
Five to win. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Oh dear, still 2 outta 3 ain't bad.
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Just back from Edgbaston where we made hard work of defeating the Foxes.......Bowling was very average and the 17 year old spinner looks like a good prospect. James Taylor for them played very well and looks quality. Our batting did well with everyone contributing. The new pavilion looks very good
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Well played Warwick, what is the 17 year old spinner's name?
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Holmes.
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Good win for the Pears yesterday, the first of the season. In the previous 3 games we've lost from promising positions but this time we kept our nerve. Wish Villa could do the same.
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Holmes is about 20 not 17. We nicked him from Kent.
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Scotland 31 for 2 off nearly ten overs, is it a bit of a dodgy wicket?
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136/4 Off 30 overs............this could be close
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Making hard work of this.
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Making hard work of this.
I blame myself as I went yesterday but couldnt go today.........152/4 of 32.1
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Won by 6 runs. Nervy finish.
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Get in, come on you Bears!
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Lancs at home today for the Bears! No Troughton but Bell and Trott both play.
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Yeah interesting line up - has Troughton dropped himself so Bell can play - and captain ? Also thank god Trott is effectively in for Westwood !!
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Also thank god Trott is effectively in for Westwood !!
Here here.
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Lancs collapse from 219/5 to 227 all out. Rankin 5-57. Good stuff. We could do with just not losing any wickets before close of play and it will be an excellent start. After our third day's evening collapse against Durham, I would be tempted to open with a nightwatchman. Sod it, two nightwatchmen!
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The Bears currently cantering along at 5 for 0 after 1.5
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Great bit of bowling from the Bears
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Bears 39/1@ close.......Bell 15 no, Chopra 21 no..........188 behind
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What the hell are they batting on today. Both sides struggling to get a 20 partnership together.
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Need to restrict them to 150 to have a chance. Pitch can't be so bad tomorrow so I reckon we need at least three wickets by close to have a chance. Lancs currently 67/3, leading by 122. It won't be a draw anyway.
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What the hell are they batting on today. Both sides struggling to get a 20 partnership together.
Corrugated iron by the sounds of it
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Great return to the side for Bell and Trott.
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Well, that was a bit shit. Need a miracle tomorrow.
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Pears need the batsmen to show the same levels of application as the bowlers if the season is to improve....might need to dig into the loan market for a keeper/bat as need extra depth in tail and maybe also an opening bat to put pressure on Cameron
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Bears 92/5 needing another 153 runs to win, with Chopra, Bell, Trott and Youssuf all gone. We've got as much chance as the Lib Dems have of winning the next General Election.
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We've had better days
Lancashire 227 & 189
Warwickshire 172 & 97 (30.2 ov)
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Oh dear, move on to the next game now!
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Bit of a let down......
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Two poor Championship results on the bounce as a result of second innings collapses. A blip or a case of normal service being resumed?
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It's too early in the season to make comparisons with last season's poor showing until August.
Lancashire spinners took 8 of the second innings wickets. Clearly the pitch was a lottery and not your typical Edgbaston early season track.
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Poor from the Bears today..........235 should have been gettable and after a poor start we recovered well and even when Bell went @ 175 we still had 10 overs left, we then imploded from 191 for 5 to 210 all out and where was Trott ????
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Poor from the Bears today..........235 should have been gettable and after a poor start we recovered well and even when Bell went @ 175 we still had 10 overs left, we then imploded from 191 for 5 to 210 all out and where was Trott ????
Listened to much of it on the internet and from what I gather neither Bell or Trott were meant to be playing today, but Bell asked for permission from England to turn out. I guess after not much of a bat in the Championship last week, he felt like he needed the knock. Trott I guess didn't and perhaps sees himself as more of an England player than Warwick at the moment?.
Agreed very poor from the Bears and I fear for how this season may turn out when Bell and Trott go off for the Internationals and we are back with Westwood again. There are some players there that I just don't get, Barker and Johnson for two. Why is Barker batting at 3, other than to try and turn him into another Carter !!!
With yesterday's snorefest, a crap sporting weekend.
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Poor from the Bears today..........235 should have been gettable and after a poor start we recovered well and even when Bell went @ 175 we still had 10 overs left, we then imploded from 191 for 5 to 210 all out and where was Trott ????
Listened to much of it on the internet and from what I gather neither Bell or Trott were meant to be playing today, but Bell asked for permission from England to turn out. I guess after not much of a bat in the Championship last week, he felt like he needed the knock. Trott I guess didn't and perhaps sees himself as more of an England player than Warwick at the moment?.
Agreed very poor from the Bears and I fear for how this season may turn out when Bell and Trott go off for the Internationals and we are back with Westwood again. There are some players there that I just don't get, Barker and Johnson for two. Why is Barker batting at 3, other than to try and turn him into another Carter !!!
With yesterday's snorefest, a crap sporting weekend.
I agree with everything you say I think we will be relegated in the Championship and not do much in anything else, I think the club have overstreched themselves financially with the new pavillion, etc and we are seeing that with the quality of the players on the pitch and we dont seem to be getting any other overseas players for the 20/20
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I don't 'get' Barker either. He certainly shouldn't be batting at 3 in any form of the game.
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Bears V Pears County Championship game has been delayed due to rain, but looking at the Bears line-up it seems to hugely favour batting rather than bowling.
Maddy is in at number 8, with Clarke, Tahir (not Imran), Rankin and Metters (?) as the other bowlers.
Is Woakes injured?
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No idea about Woakes.
Chris Metters is a young spinner we signed from Devon.
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Bears 299 for 6
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Not a disastrous first day. Now build on it Bears, maximum batting points please!
I think Frank of this parish is off to the game tomorrow, I expect a full (unbiased!) match report!
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Not a disastrous first day. Now build on it Bears, maximum batting points please!
I think Frank of this parish is off to the game tomorrow, I expect a full (unbiased!) match report!
Hopefully get 4 batting points. I think 400 by 110 overs is pushing it. Good recovery after 99/5 mind.
Think it is supposed to rain tomorrow. Hopefully Frank will get to see a fair amount of cricket though.
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I'm thinking of going on Friday if the weather's okay and we haven't beaten them by then.
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it was/is a crap wicket. 200 would have been a good score by the sound of it. 299/6 is excellent
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it was/is a crap wicket. 200 would have been a good score by the sound of it. 299/6 is excellent
Oh, might not go to Friday then?
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In fairness 150 would have been about par in the conditions.
The likely 330 - 370 should be far too many for a much weaker pears line up to compete with.
COME ON YOU BEARS
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Spending the day at Edgbaston with DC5 and villajk. Good start by the Pears and very pleasant in the afternoon sunshine
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The carrot crunchers Worcestershire are 213/7.
Come on you Bears. Skittle them for 240 or so and we should be ok.
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Poor end to the day for Worcs. Like Villa, we can't build on a good position
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Makes a change our opponents having a bad last hour. I reckon Worcester need 5 to avoid the follow-on. Not sure if we should enforce it anyway though.
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Tweeted by The Spin -
Edgbaston pitch has been reported. ECB pitch panel will meet tomorrow. 24 point penalty is possible.
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Tweeted by The Spin -
Edgbaston pitch has been reported. ECB pitch panel will meet tomorrow. 24 point penalty is possible.
That's interesting. The bounce was certainly very variable and it was being suggested at the ground that the umpires might call in the inspectors
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Tweeted by The Spin -
Edgbaston pitch has been reported. ECB pitch panel will meet tomorrow. 24 point penalty is possible.
That's bollocks, some pitches see 20+ wickets in a day and don't get reported, 610-19 over two days is not a bad batting pitch.
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Further to the above, will the ECB ever report a pitch where it's fucking impossible to take a wicket? Both sides scoring 600+ does not make a match. A bad pitch might be dangerous, but the opposite is a good way to kill cricket as a sport.
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I went on Wednesday. Quite a decent contest then, with a good comeback by the Bears when the sun finally showed itself. Were the wickets today mainly coming from the Pavilion/Building Site end?
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Metters the lad who took a 5-fer on his debut was bowling from the City End.
I'm not sure how they can potentially deduct points when several of the wickets that have fallen were down to poor shot selection/technique.
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Hoping the Pears can do a reversal of the game at New Road a few weeks back but there has been no evidence this season of batsmen getting their head down and getting a big score
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Hoping the Pears can do a reversal of the game at New Road a few weeks back but there has been no evidence this season of batsmen getting their head down and getting a big score
I was sitting quite a long way back and couldn't see what the ball was doing, apart from the unpredictability of the bounce. There may be some excuse for our batting if the wicket really was suspect. However, from where I was sitting it seemed that we were guilty of our familiar failings, e.g. Cameron, Solanki and Pardoe getting out when they were seeing the ball well. Moeen batted for almost 100 balls for 19 and then got out. It must also be said that Metters bowled well. Scott looked good and is still in, but even if he helps us to avoid the follow-on I can't see any result other than a win for the Bears and a 5th defeat out of 5 for the Pears.
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Bears look like winning the game but will lose the points........... anyone @ the game today
I hope Solanki isnt too badly injured
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Hoping the Pears can do a reversal of the game at New Road a few weeks back but there has been no evidence this season of batsmen getting their head down and getting a big score
I was sitting quite a long way back and couldn't see what the ball was doing, apart from the unpredictability of the bounce. There may be some excuse for our batting if the wicket really was suspect. However, from where I was sitting it seemed that we were guilty of our familiar failings, e.g. Cameron, Solanki and Pardoe getting out when they were seeing the ball well. Moeen batted for almost 100 balls for 19 and then got out. It must also be said that Metters bowled well. Scott looked good and is still in, but even if he helps us to avoid the follow-on I can't see any result other than a win for the Bears and a 5th defeat out of 5 for the Pears.
Still hopeful for the future tho, not sure getting promoted was the best thing in the long term...players like Cox / Pardoe / Pinner etc need time to develop.
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Jusr been tweeted by Mike Taylor of WM that the ECB have confirmed an 8 point deduction for the Bears because of a substandard pitch.
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Jusr been tweeted by Mike Taylor of WM that the ECB have confirmed an 8 point deduction for the Bears because of a substandard pitch.
8 points isnt that bad could have been 24 points
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http://www.edgbaston.com/news/press-statement/
Rumour has it Rebel (Rouse) has been sacked. Nothing confirmed.
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http://www.edgbaston.com/news/press-statement/
Rumour has it Rebel (Rouse) has been sacked. Nothing confirmed.
I think that would be harsh as the weather hasnt helped and he has produced some good pitches
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Shame about the points but hopefully we beat the pears tomorrow.
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I was there yesterday and although I obviously didn't see the pitch close up I couldn't see that it was that bad. Certainly Yousaf, Maddy and a couple of others managed to bat okay on it. Warwickshire racked up 382 in their first innings, hardly a poor score.
The odd ball would rear up a bit, there were a fair few rapped knuckles, maybe it was the blow on the head that Solanki took that did it, but that was from a genuinely fast, aggressive bouncer from Rankin that Solanki seemed to duck right into the path of.
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Was the pitch at Lancashire the other week not worse?
We better win today to make up for the points deduction. Piss off rain.
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Further to the above, will the ECB ever report a pitch where it's fucking impossible to take a wicket? Both sides scoring 600+ does not make a match. A bad pitch might be dangerous, but the opposite is a good way to kill cricket as a sport.
I wholeheartedly concur with that, Dave.
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Slightly off tangent but just read this really interesting article.....
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cricket/sad-story-of-frank-foster-ashes-hero-that-time-forgot-2283798.html
Apologies for the long link.
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Excellent read, cheers ev. Never heard any of that before.
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Pears 58/6... but I can see a few nasty clouds out of my Yardley window. Need to finish 'em off before lunch.
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Bollocks. Rain stopped play. It's my mate's fault for organising a barbecue today. Every time he has a barbecue, it pisses down.
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Playing again now, still four more wickets for victory, or maybe only three if Solanki can't bat again.
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Pears have forfeited it seems so Bears win by 218 runs
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The win was crucial after the points deduction.
From an England point of view, thankfully neither Trott or Bell were badly injured.
It doesn't however bode too well for Egbaston's chance of securing future lucrative international games.
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It doesn't however bode too well for Egbaston's chance of securing future lucrative international games.
Most of the problem came from the new drainage system put in at the behest of the ECB, that and having a massive new stand in place which has changed the atmospherics meant that the groundsmen underestimated the amount the bpitch should have been watered. It was too dry and cracked very quickly.
Thet shouldn't have too many problems from now on, they should know how quickly the rest of the pitches wil dry out as they prepare them.
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Report on Cricinfo say that the Bears are likely to appeal the penalty. From the outside looking in it would appear to be a fair decision but given the margin of victory, I do wonder if it should be reassesed. The Bears scored 218 more runs than the Pears so it can't have been all that bad.
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The fact that two players were injured won't help the Bears' chances of getting the penalty overturned.
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The fact that two players were injured won't help the Bears' chances of getting the penalty overturned.
why didnt Richardson bat ??
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He's got a leg injury.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2011/content/current/story/515096.html
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He's got a leg injury.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2011/content/current/story/515096.html
Least we cant get blamed for that
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Well what an interesting day for the bears, still a win is a win and against the pears.
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I heard we are appealing on the basis that some journo mentioned it to the pitch panel - the umpires did not actually report it as a poor or unfit wicket. A lot is been made of the Solanki injury but did he just not deal with a bouncer very well ?
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Grauniad said he ducked but the ball didn't bounce as high as it should have due to the pitch.
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A pretty daming report on Cricinfo. This could rumble on:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2011/content/story/515096.html
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The bears strolling to victory at Leicestershire.
Rounding of a magical Sunday.
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I've stumbled across a decent Bears blog:
http://warwickshirebears.net/blog/
Well worth a read.
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Well done you bears, good to get another win.
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I've stumbled across a decent Bears blog:
http://warwickshirebears.net/blog/
Well worth a read.
Cheers for that, I'll keep my eye on it.
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Not a bad day for the bears.........Warwickshire: 233-3 (59.0 overs)
Chopra c Voges b Shreck 41
Porterfield c Read b Adams 54
Bell not out 68
Trott c Read b Franks 32
Yousuf not out 27
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Indeed, let's build on it tomorrow!
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It would be nice to get 400 against Notts we're normally crap there
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It would be nice to get 400 against Notts we're normally crap there
They do tend to be one of the best English teams
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Nott's 89/7 in reply to our 376. Going surprisingly well.
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99 for 7 now, COYB
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99/9. Finish 'em off!
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117 a/o, The Bears have enforced the follow on
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117 a/o, The Bears have enforced the follow on
Notts 0 - 1 in the 1st over of their follow on. I think that is 18 wickets that have fallen today. I might anonymously ring to pitch inspectors.......
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Notts 5 for 1, following on. It better not fucking rain the next two day.
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Great stuff from the Bears
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Great stuff!
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40-4 now
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60-4 at stumps, still 199 behind.
21 wickets have fallen in the day. I demand Notts are deducted a minimum of 8 points for a substandard pitch!
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good lads. Must say Rankin is coming on a treat
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21 wickets have fallen in the day. I demand Notts are deducted a minimum of 8 points for a substandard pitch!
And 11 players have suffered injury... Well, to their pride at least!
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Another great day for the MIGHTY BEARS
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Finish them off early tomorrow and take the next day off!
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There's a good report on cricinfo, full of praise for Bell, not only with the bat (he took Broad apart apparently) but for the aggressive approach as captain with the Bears attack and with some clever field placings. It's the first time Notts have followed on at Trent Bridge for two years.
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Notts 117 and 318 all out
Warks 376 all out and only need 60 to win at tea on the 3rd day...
nice !
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Bears win by 9 wickets
Bell 33no........off 16 balls with 7 boundaries
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Nice one Warwick, cricinfo was updating me every few minutes... another great win!
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Well done boys. ;D
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After the successive spin-induced stuffings at the hands of Durham and Lancs, its great to see them bounce back with two great wins of their own on the trot. Got a good feeling about this team's resilience - bodes well for the remainder of the season.
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how do you guys follow it. when I can I listen on the bbc all games have radio commentry live
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Cricinfo normally, occasionally the radio commentary f I have time.
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cricinfo for me
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I listen to the Bears through the BBC website, whilst pretending to do some work.
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Good score from Durham, now beat it Bears
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U Bears........Warwickshire won by 7 wickets (with 21 balls remaining)
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Great stuff
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Our appeal against the points deduction for a poor quality pitch against the Pears has been rejected.
A home four-day game against Durham starts today. Let's hope that the pitch is more reliable. The recent rain should help Mr Rouse in his pitch preparation.
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Durham seem to be racking up a good score, boo!
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I can't do the proposed H&V T20 day out on 6th June as I have been told I want to go to Nottingham!
Have got tickets for the game against Wusster on Friday 17th June though if anyone fancies it?
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I can't do the proposed H&V T20 day out on 6th June as I have been told I want to go to Nottingham!
Have got tickets for the game against Wusster on Friday 17th June though if anyone fancies it?
The 20/20 game is on the 5th June. I take it that doesn't change anything though?
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I can't do the proposed H&V T20 day out on 6th June as I have been told I want to go to Nottingham!
Have got tickets for the game against Wusster on Friday 17th June though if anyone fancies it?
The 20/20 game is on the 5th June. I take it that doesn't change anything though?
It's what I meant, and no, I still want (apparently) to be in Nottingham!
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Back to today's game. If we can skittle them out for 700 then we've got a chance ::)
Am I right in thinking that in this 1 match we've dropped more bowling points than in all of last season? At least we shouldn't get docked points for a dangerous pitch.
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Really struggling today, Durham seem to have the evil eye over us in the 4 day game. Still think we are a lot better than Worcs and Hants though so cant see us slipping right down the table.
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They don't have the 'evil eye' on us. They are just better than us.
Utterly pathetic performance today. Need to show some backbone and, more importantly, good rain-dancing skills in the next two days.
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crap performance today
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Oh blimey
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A rain ruined day still saw the Bears stumble towards inevitable defeat. 186 all out and 35-3 at stumps, following on.
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Come on rain clouds
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Only played for about 5 minutes yesterday and lost 4 wickets (including the 1st innings). Need a bloody monsoon to have any chance today.
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71-5
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Worcestershire have released Adrian Shankar less than a month after he signed a 2 year contract. It seems his CV was not all that it seemed:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2011/content/current/story/516800.html
Incredible, really.
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At least Bears have shown a bit of fight today. Barker made 100, but with only two wickets left and not much chance of rain... we're still buggered.
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298/8........how much time left in the day ???
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Still fighting. 8 down.
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9 now.
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298/8........how much time left in the day ???
Just checked the rules and you can only play an extra half an hour on the first three days... so we just need to survive till 6.
Bollocks! Nine down. Come on rain/darkness/snow.... anything!
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9 down and 10 overs to go according to the BBC commentary
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Just turned on the BBC commentary in time to hear that we'd lost.
If only our top order had a pair of testacles between them we'd have been ok (Chopra excepted).
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Yeah good effort by the lower order and tail.
Unfortunately without Bell and Trott, the top order looks a bit weak (now that Chopras early season form seems to have gone). Woakes also a big loss bowling and batting.
Those 4 early wins could prove crucial come the end of the season.
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Worcestershire have released Adrian Shankar less than a month after he signed a 2 year contract. It seems his CV was not all that it seemed:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2011/content/current/story/516800.html
Incredible, really.
They've reported him to the police now apparently.
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Nevermind Warwick onwards and upwards!
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The Pears don't give their supporters much to cheer about, but today we achieved a splendid win against Notts, our first in division 1 for 7 years. OK, it's not as good as beating Arsenal at the Emirates, but it's still quite satisfying.
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Former Bear Mark Wagh has brought forward his retirement and left the game today. He's had a shocking season and as he doesn't play T20 he has agreed with Notts that he'll go now.
Was a fine batsman for us and a decent bowler too in the early days. We should never have let him go but he didn't get on with Mark Greatbatch. I played with him once or twice in the junior teams at West Bromwich Dartmouth CC and he's a good bloke. I believe he's planning to go into the legal profession.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2011/content/story/517486.html
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Bears v Durham in the T20 is on Sky tomorrow night.
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Heading to Edgbaston Sunday if anyone fancies coming along (weather permitting).
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The Pears don't give their supporters much to cheer about, but today we achieved a splendid win against Notts, our first in division 1 for 7 years. OK, it's not as good as beating Arsenal at the Emirates, but it's still quite satisfying.
A great win finally after knocking on the door a few times this season. I thought we had blown it after our latest batting collapse in the 1st innings. We are off the bottom as well! im off to see the boys on friday in the T20 at Old Trafford, cant wait! confidence should be a bit higher now. Come on you Pears!
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Come on you Bears
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Bears v Durham in the T20 today, live on Sky sports 2 17.30 so you all now. I should be waking up just in time for it :)
Any one near Chester le Street, can you please do an anti rain dance while I'm sleeping. Nice one.
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I see VillaSubmariner beat me to it. Should have looked first.
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Come on you Bears!
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Great performance from the Bears.
Durham went off like an express train and we did well to restrict them to 151. Great bowling in the last 5 overs by Carter, Barker and Maddy.
Great innings by Porterfield to see us through with 11 balls to spare, which in this form of the game is some achievement.
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Well played lads.
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Good win there.
What time does the game start on Sunday?
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Chinese Dentist.
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Very good performance with bat and ball. Sounds like a good knock from Porterfield - hope he can get some momentum going and take that into the county championship when it resumes. Troughton's struggles with the bat go on though.
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Great win that!
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Good win for the Bears tonite, solid and a good performance from Porterfield
Good to see Carts back and I didnt know that we had signed Jeetan Patel, I must have missed that
Looking forward to Sunday and the weather forecast is good ..........uuuuuuuuuuuuu Bears
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Yeah I was suprised by Jeetan patel as well, had no idea. Mohammed Yousuf probably been called up for Pakistan so we got emergency replacement I take it?
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Yeah I was suprised by Jeetan patel as well, had no idea. Mohammed Yousuf probably been called up for Pakistan so we got emergency replacement I take it?
Not sure mate........Mohammed Yousuf was only here as cover for Younus Khan who should be here after the T20 games but Patel is ideal for T20
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Youssuf has returned to Pakistan, Patel is here initially just for the T20's.
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Yorks out for 161/8 and the Bears coming up fast on that score 149/5 with 3 overs left.
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YOU BEARS!!!!!!!
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Yorks out for 161/8 and the Bears coming up fast on that score 149/5 with 3 overs left.
Bears win again......................uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu bears
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And there's the win. We're a pretty impressive one day side.
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They fancy themselves to chase down any score really don't they?
Porterfield is a fantastic player in this format.
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Great stuff from the Bears!
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Well, we fucked that up! Northants were 90 for 8 and looking doomed. They ended up making 150 and we were all out for 110. Still, the new stand looks nice!
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Well, we fucked that up! Northants were 90 for 8 and looking doomed. They ended up making 150 and we were all out for 110. Still, the new stand looks nice!
Agree with all the above we let them get 30 too many and when Botha came on we seemed transfixed
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Was the pitch a little iffy?
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Warwick lose to Notts in the T20, that's all I have to say about that.
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Anyone know when Woakes is back ?
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Notts-Bears on Sky now. Woakes is back!
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Poor start.
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So far so gash. Hopefully, it'll rain.
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Notts off like a train but a couple of quick wickets should see us peg them back. Notts have an impressive batting line up.
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Ah well, just short at the end. Excellent cameo at the end from Woakes.
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This is becoming more frequent, come on you Bears
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Warwick win, Northants all out for 96 and we get home with 10 balls and 6 wickets to spare, you bears!
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We needed that. Good stuff.
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Good victory for the Bears.
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Got tickets for Friday but it looks like lots of rain.
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Got tickets for Friday but it looks like lots of rain.
I'm travelling all the way from Sussex for this one but, as you say, the forecast is pretty bad. Then Villa Park, Aston Hall and the Barton's for Aston Heritage Day on Saturday.
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Oh dear. We lost to Worcestershire.
Is this the time to start the "Giles Out" campaign?
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What a great win for the Pears! Much enjoyed by me and less so by DC5 and villajk
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Hope you had fun Frank. You going Fulham?
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Sadly not - I'm in Germany. But Jon and Pauline will be there
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rather be a pear than a bear
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Come on you Bears
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rather be a pear than a bear
Surely that's the wrong way round.......
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rather be a pear than a bear
Surely that's the wrong way round.......
not if you live in worcestershire
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Who is Gareth Andrews then? Never heard of him, fantastic knock on Friday though.
Incidentally that was my first visit to Edgbaston. I must say... I wasn't hugely impressed. Not the most picturesque of grounds on the inside, just a mass of grey concrete, hopefully this was because half the stands weren't open and the weather was atrocious. Also, queuing for a pint took about 10 overs. Worse than Villa Park!
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Just back from the Bears game.............outclassed and outplayed I am afraid, Carters place has to be under threat and I think we need to be playing 2 spinners :-(
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Our bowling has been gash for nearly a decade.
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Our bowling has been gash for nearly a decade.
Agreed 100%
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Oh dear Bears
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Good day for the Bears bowling Somerset out for 262 and then closing on 86 for none
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Also a good day for the Pears: one more Hants wicket tomorrow morning, then we'll need just over 100 for victory.
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Glad to see us get a break from the dismal Twenty20 campaign. We have been utter shite since the H&V day out. Sorry everybody!
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Good day for the Bears bowling Somerset out for 262 and then closing on 86 for none
Very good Spangley
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Who is Gareth Andrews then? Never heard of him, fantastic knock on Friday though.
Incidentally that was my first visit to Edgbaston. I must say... I wasn't hugely impressed. Not the most picturesque of grounds on the inside, just a mass of grey concrete, hopefully this was because half the stands weren't open and the weather was atrocious. Also, queuing for a pint took about 10 overs. Worse than Villa Park!
gareth andrew was released by somerset 3 years ago & signed for worcs.
think he was mainly a bowler but worcs turned him into an allrounder as there batting line up is quite poor,his bowlings got worse.
hes just abit of a whacker in t20 & uses one of those mongoose bats,some days it pays off like friday.
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My God, if you're in the Edgbaston area get yourselves over to the ground where you could be about to witness something you'll be telling your kids about in years to come.
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My God, if you're in the Edgbaston area get yourselves over to the ground where you could be about to witness something you'll be telling your kids about in years to come.
Don't jinx the scorecard!
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My God, if you're in the Edgbaston area get yourselves over to the ground where you could be about to witness something you'll be telling your kids about in years to come.
It took me a few seconds!
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He's done it! I still think he's shit but well done Ian Westwood.
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Porterfield has a 50 now, although looking at the stats he doesn't appear to have hit the ball off the square! What is going on?
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Porterfield has a 50 now, although looking at the stats he doesn't appear to have hit the ball off the square! What is going on?
Windy conditions today with a lot of cloud about, not ideal for batting, so i guess they're having to work for everything they get.
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Might pop down tomorrow, I've got a day off. I'll check out the weather in the morning.
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Good day for the bears
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Lunch Somerset 36-1 still needing 150 to avoid an innings defeat. C'mon you bears.
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Trouble is that Westwood century has probably kept him his place in the team for the rest of the season.
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Somerset 174/8..........Bears closing in on victory
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Somerset 191 for 9 @ stumps a lead of 5............u bears
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Great stuff. So long as it doesn't piss down all day tomorrow, should be job done.
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Shivnarine Chanderpaul to join Warwickshire
Chanderpaul, 36, will arrive at Edgbaston in around three weeks and will stay for the rest of the season.
The veteran of 130 Tests and 268 one-day internationals replaces Mohammad Yousuf, who played for the Bears during the early weeks of the campaign.
Chanderpaul has had previous spells in England with Durham and Lancashire.
Warwickshire's director of cricket Ashley Giles said: "It is universally acknowledged that Shiv is a class act and has proved his worth time after time at the highest level.
"Not only does he possess the qualities and talents that we are looking for in abundance, but he also comes with a reputation as a hard-working cricketer, a great character and a professional with a tremendous work ethic.
"We are delighted that he has agreed to join us for the vitally important final stages of our season."
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Went down today, rain stayed off (only ten minutes lost after lunch).
Good stuff, Trescothick was the key wicket, Somerset have very little after him, Kieswetter is woefully out of form.
Rikki Clarke bowled superbly, real hostility on what looked like a decent batting wicket.
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Well done to the Bears, now finish them off tomorrow.
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Trouble is that Westwood century has probably kept him his place in the team for the rest of the season.
I'm not sure that it has. Apparently the Bears have signed Chanderpaul as the overseas player from mid-July.
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Trouble is that Westwood century has probably kept him his place in the team for the rest of the season.
I'm not sure that it has. Apparently the Bears have signed Chanderpaul as the overseas player from mid-July.
Chanderpaul is more of a number 4/5 though, not likely to take Westwood's spot is he?
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Hey, if Westwood is finally rediscovering the form that got him the captaincy in the first place then great.
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Chanderpaul is more of a number 4/5 though, not likely to take Westwood's spot is he?
Not a straight swap though - I suspect it'll be either Maddy or Westwood who makes way, with Porterfield opening alongside Chopra. Maddy's bowling may just give him the edge. On current form it should be Troughton who misses out but he's skipper so that's not going to happen. Chanderpaul's a limpet so I think he'll bat at 3.
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Supposed to be pissing down all day today - We probably only need about half an hour of play, to win the game though.
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Won by 10 wickets. Excellent all round performance.
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Bears beat Somerset by 10 wickets, nice one.
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I went along yesterday and considering the forecast, got in a good day's play. A good, gritty performance - the Bears strangled Somerset basically, and were patient for the wickets before they collapsed after tea.
Like the post-match comment from Giles summing up Rankin's impact - "he's a big bastard."
We knew about the first, now at last he's showing something of the latter.
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Well done Warwick, hopefully we won't be looking down this season with the threat of relegation.
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Warwickshire 138/5 (18/20 ov)
No result
Booooooo to the rain!
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Better than giving them some piss-easy Duckworth-Lewis target to chase in 5 overs though.
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Gloucestershire whacked 254-3 off their 20 overs at Surrey the other day.
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Another loss for da Bears, we seem to be a rather average one day side.
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Average is being kind, on present form the bears are awful. Things are bad when Derbyshire can thrash us. Still at least we are doing ok in the 4 day game
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Pleased to see the Bears continue to do well in the 4 day game ,have reduced Sussex to 198 -8 at tea
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Good day for the Bears.........Sussex 251 all out and Bears closed on 58 for 0, Westwood 13no and Chopra 40no
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Good day for the Bears.........Sussex 251 all out and Bears closed on 58 for 0, Westwood 13no and Chopra 40no
Absolutely
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Bears 224 -4 at tea on second day. Slow going, Westwood done ok again as did Porterfield. Afraid Troughton failed again,being captain is only thing keeping in the team on present form.
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Another good day for Bears closing on 370/6 a lead of 119, solid batting performance.......
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Solid is the word and it's good to see Westwood playing with some confidence, just a shame he didn't make it to three figures. Arundel a lovely place to watch cricket too, and they do great cake and ale too... Pitch is doing little but Bears have more aggression
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Nice lead for the Bears, now let's build on it.
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471/9 at lunch. Lead of 220.
I'd be tempted to just declare now and get on with bowling.
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Bears on the way to another win by the looks of it. Sussex 75-3 at tea still 155 behind
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Sussex close on 201/5 they are still 29 behind, we need a couple of early wickets in the morning
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How is the weather looking for tomorrow?
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Rankin has really blossomed this season. If his form continues and he stays clear of injuries I can see a winter with the 3 Lions and Crown.
Ireland have produced an excellent generation of players and England are benefiting.
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Rankin has really blossomed this season. If his form continues and he stays clear of injuries I can see a winter with the 3 Lions and Crown.
Ireland have produced an excellent generation of players and England are benefiting.
Imo Ireland should be pushing the ICC for test status. Their one day form since 2007 has been fantastic considering their size, but without test status they'll lose their best players to England, surely they'd be able to beat the likes of Bangladesh in the test arena?
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Bears need 71 to win..............Come on uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Bears
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Bears need 71 to win..............Come on uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Bears
It's been a great performance so far and would be nice to wrap up a 10 wicket win.
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Bears win by 8 wickets................uuuuuuuuuuuuuu Bears
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Good win for the Bears, really impressive when you think we were without Bell, Trott and Woakes probably our three best players
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Rankin has really blossomed this season. If his form continues and he stays clear of injuries I can see a winter with the 3 Lions and Crown.
Ireland have produced an excellent generation of players and England are benefiting.
Imo Ireland should be pushing the ICC for test status. Their one day form since 2007 has been fantastic considering their size, but without test status they'll lose their best players to England, surely they'd be able to beat the likes of Bangladesh in the test arena?
I think the next country that gets test status will be Afghanistan to be honest.
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Well done you Bears.
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Well done you Bears.
Absolutely
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Bad day for the Bears today.
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Managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again. Troughton, Clarke and Barker all failed again with the bat when needed. Thrashed twice in just over a week by Derbyshire who Lancashire beat in 9 overs last Sunday,can it get any worse?
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That's the t20 over for this year, at least the county championship is going well
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The Bears are really trying to throw an opportunity away against the Pears.
Chasing 112, we're 53 - 6 off 11.2 >:(
The rate is gettable but the wickets they keep falling
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A very impressive win for Worcs, defending just 112. And a double over the Bears. Well done, the Pears!
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The Bears are really trying to throw an opportunity away against the Pears.
Chasing 112, we're 53 - 6 off 11.2 >:(
The rate is gettable but the wickets they keep falling
Lost by 6 runs, 106 - 8 off 20. The way that the wickets were tumbling around the middle of the innings we did well to get as close as we did.
Not sure if that puts the Pears into the quarters, if it does well done, you've played some good 20 over cricket at times.
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Not good.
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Not sure if that puts the Pears into the quarters, if it does well done, you've played some good 20 over cricket at times.
Unlikely. We lost 3 in a row before this one and are dependent on other teams. But the other results tonight went our way.
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Meh, it's baseball, just have a look at the proper cricket table.
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Troughton, Clarke and Barker all failed with the bat when needed,sure i wrote that somewhere before, Oh yes after the Derby game on Wednesday! How Giles/Troughton can keep on picking more or less the same side defeat after defeat just baffles me,surely the likes of Rankin, Metters and Potter deserve a go. Also can anyone tell why Chanderpaul has not played yet despite signing on the 1st July?
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He's still playing for the West Indies in the last of their three test series against India.
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Thanks Cd, i just read he got a hundred against India to help save the match. Who do you think he will replace? My guess is it will be Maddy.
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Well done Bears. Thanks to your win today the Pears need just 2 points to guarantee a QF place
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Finally a win for the Bears, it seems like we've had to wait a long time for that.
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Yeah good to see the Bears finally managed a win, did their best to balls it up though at the end.What was Barker thinking of, just 2 balls left,one run needed to tie,two to win,all he needed to do was take the single and put Woakes back on strike,but no he tried to hit it out of the ground.Brainless!Well done Woakes for keeping cool and seeing us home
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I thought that the Bears were going to win another one tonight. Lancashire have a fantastic bowling attack and they did really well to defend 139. I watched them defend 110 last night live on Sky. That Junaid is a wonderful bowler, straight out of the Wasim/Waqar mould.
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Paul Collingwood took 5 for 6, including a hat-trick as far as I can tell, in the Durham v Northants T20 this evening. Northants all out for 47.
Talk about a gulf between county and international level: his dobbers were virtually useless for England.
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Not the result the Pears wanted, i think they now more or less have to win at Notts tonight to qualify for the quarter finals.
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Steve Rouse is retiring at the end of this season. His role is advertised on the ECB website.
A groundsman at a first class cricket ground would be one of my ideal jobs.
http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/vacancies/other-cricket-vacancies/edgbaston-head-groundsman,2484,BP.html
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Another one-day defeat for the Bears tonight. Their recent form has been pretty woeful.
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Another one-day defeat for the Bears tonight. Their recent form has been pretty woeful.
Yes, just got back. The lost overs didn't help but here was an air of inevitability about their innings, every time it looked like we might be getting on top they hit a six. New pavilion looked nice with people in it mind, might get a membership for next year.
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Am amazed that there was actually a worse team than the Bears in this years t20 group we were in,mind you we even managed to lose to them! I dread the one day match against Scotland tomorrow the way we are playing in the one day game.
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We aren't doing too badly in the forty over stuff to be fair.
Anyway in proper cricket we are third with a game in hand, should be second if we hadn't had those ten points (wrongly) taken off us.
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Well, i said i dreaded the match against Scotland and surprise suprise we have just lost. Another spineless performance from most of the team. Time after time the likes of Clarke, Troughton and Barker fail and yet are picked game after game .How do these guys keep their place?How bad do they have to be before they are left out? Interesting that only Ant Botha showed any fightat all and he was only playing because Maddy and Chanderpaul were not available and he has not been offered a contract next season and can leave.
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Christ, that's bad.
Barker for me is rubbish and Johnson just keeps wicket and can't bat.
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Glad to see there is someone else out there who thinks Barker is rubbish. Game after game he fails with the bat and his bowling is expensive. Yesterday the wm commentator Clive Eakin was going on about how good the Bears had bowled and had not given a no ball or indeed a wide away. For some reason our captain decided he would give Barker his first bowl of the match in the last over.If you follow the bears you just knew he would either bowl a no ball or a wide.Sure enough he bowled a wide with the last ball and the extra ball was hammered for 4 which is what the margin of defeat was.I keep hearing this guy is very promising but when are we ever going to see it?
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I agree with your sentiments about Barker but think that a little perspective is needed. Yes we lost to Scotland by a few runs (and Barker's last ball wide laid the foundations of our defeat), but chasing under DL is a lottery and always seems weighted in favour of the fielding side. I think that we're making progress and we've the nucleus of a competitive squad.
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With all due respect to you Villan for Life i think we are doing the opppsite to making progress and are falling behind. certainly in the one day game . Guys like Maddy and Carter are past their best and are becoming injury prone.The likes of Barker,Westwood,Clarke and Miller continue to fail. Chopra has been a big disappointment in the one day games Botha has been told he can leave and the jury is still out on the likes of Patel and Piolet. Woakes a undoubted talent in the 4 day game seems to be very hit and miss in the one day game.That leaves Porterfield,the wicket keeper whose name escapes me at the moment as the only bright spots so far this season.With Bell and Trott away with England for the forseeable future and Rankin for some reason never selected i just don't see how we are progressing,surely the fact this is only the second time we have failed to at least qualify for at least the Quarter Finals tells us we are falling behind
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Surely the counter arguement is the progress in the 4 day game?
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I agree with your sentiments about Barker but think that a little perspective is needed. Yes we lost to Scotland by a few runs (and Barker's last ball wide laid the foundations of our defeat), but chasing under DL is a lottery and always seems weighted in favour of the fielding side. I think that we're making progress and we've the nucleus of a competitive squad.
Cricinfo says it was a DL game but both sides had 22 overs, they got 120 and we were 4 short - very poor performance. However, doing well in the CC which is what counts the most.
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Yes we are doing well in CC at the moment and i hope it continues. Will be amazed if we do any better than 3rd though,we have already been thrashed home and away by Durham and thrashed by Lancashire at home.
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Yes we are doing well in CC at the moment and i hope it continues. Will be amazed if we do any better than 3rd though,we have already been thrashed home and away by Durham and thrashed by Lancashire at home.
Third place with a game in hand is a handy place to be as we enter the final third of the season.
You have to question if Giles has the coaching balance right. Last season we were a poor championship side but a good T20/CB40 side (the T20 quarter final humiliation aside). This year we're strong in the championship but have been poor in the T20. Is there too great an emphasis on 4 day cricket at the expense of the shorter format?
We did get close in a few T20 games but could not finish sides off. We lack a killer instinct in T20 and have suffered from the lack of a top overseas T20 player.
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Not a bad day for the Bears.........261/6 @ close
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Yeah not a bad day for the Bears,hard going but dug in and in a decent position .Porterfield and Evans did well as did Ambrose and Woakes.On the down side Westwood and Clarke failed yet again.Feel we need a few more yet as the bowling without Maddy and Rankin looks a bit light
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Yeah not a bad day for the Bears,hard going but dug in and in a decent position .Porterfield and Evans did well as did Ambrose and Woakes.On the down side Westwood and Clarke failed yet again.Feel we need a few more yet as the bowling without Maddy and Rankin looks a bit light
300 + will be a good total which should give the bowlers something to think about. We'll miss Rankin though.
To give Clarke his due, he was given out to a lousy LBW decision. Typical bad luck of a batsman out of form.
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407 for 8 and still going. Barker's got his 50. Fabulous effort from 192 for 6.
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Barker and Patel still together - Barker 103 not out, Patel closing in on his 50. They've put on 120 so far in 25 overs. Great stuff.
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521 all out. I do love a good fight from the tail-enders.
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192-6 at one stage, so 329 runs from the last 4 wickets.
If I was a Sussex fan I'd be pissed off.
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I've always rated Barker :o
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Good day for the bears, still can't belive we managed 521.Either our lower order played out of their skins or their bowlers are crap. Seeing that ex bear was their best bowler probably a bit of both.
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Good day for the bears, still can't belive we managed 521.Either our lower order played out of their skins or their bowlers are crap. Seeing that ex bear was their best bowler probably a bit of both.
Part of the Sussex attack isn't that bad, although that fact that 118 of the 152 overs were bowled by 3 bowlers (Monty, Anyon and Naved-Ul-Hasan) suggests that other than these three they haven't got much else.
More praise for our tail-enders is what I say.
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Unless Sussex do a Warwickshire with their tail they will be following on.
Also, it helps that both our rivasl at the top Lancashire and Durham are struggling.
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Unless Sussex do a Warwickshire with their tail they will be following on.
Also, it helps that both our rivasl at the top Lancashire and Durham are struggling.
If we win this and Durham and Lancashire continue to struggle in their games then the top of the table will look very interesting, particularly as we have a game in hand over leaders Durham.
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So we DID enforce the follow-on! Fucking Cricinfo!
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So we DID enforce the follow-on! Fucking Cricinfo!
I was "keeping" track of it that way as well..........very bizarre as normally its very efficient
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Murray Goodwin gone early...............Come on you Bears !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So we DID enforce the follow-on! Fucking Cricinfo!
I was "keeping" track of it that way as well..........very bizarre as normally its very efficient
Must have been a cock up by whichever sports news agency that they use. I looked at Cricinfo and was amazed that we hadn't enforced the follow on. I checked BBC Cricket and they were saying the same. I spent the afternoon musing on the whys and wherefores of not enforcing the follow on!
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Joyce now out LBW Woakes, Sussex 119/4 still 143 behind
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COYB.
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Very strange that cock up with Cricinfo and BBC. I was listening on line and i thought that Clive Eakin who makes numerous mistakes had really fucked up when he said Miller was bowling.
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Has anyone else clicked on the Bears website and seen that the game on Tuesday evening in the Pro 40 is a FREE ENTRY game?. Apparently it is a test event for the new stand.
Am in London early the next day, but may pop along for a couple of hours after work
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Sussex 165/7 @ lunch
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184/8 and Panesar batting... I assume that means someone is injured and we only need one more?
Useless bastards Yorkshire lost to Lancashire so we won't gain on them. Durham following-on though so should catch them a bit.
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Nine down now. With Durham struggling the charge is on.
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Nine down. Forgot about Anyon so they do still have one wicket left.
Cricinfo's updates are painfully slow today.
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Has anyone else clicked on the Bears website and seen that the game on Tuesday evening in the Pro 40 is a FREE ENTRY game?. Apparently it is a test event for the new stand.
Am in London early the next day, but may pop along for a couple of hours after work
Just seen this, will try and leave work early and get down for this. Thanks for the heads up.
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All over. Anyon goes lbw, Patel gets his first ten-wicket haul and Bears win. YOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU BEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAARSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu bearsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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Good win for the Bears,pity Lancashire scraped home against the Yorkies. Sets us up for the game at Liverpool on 1st August.Be interesting to see who will play in that game,Chanderpaul or Patel.
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Both, I expect.
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I may be wrong on this CD,but from the way Clive Eakin was speaking earlier on line,he spoke as if only one is allowed to play and Patel has only played in the championship because of problems with our overseas players this season. He was only signed to play in the t20 but stayed on as we had no other overseas player available.
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Ah, ok. Didn't realise that. I thought you were allowed two foreigners since England started centrally-contracting players?
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Good result. Well done Bears.
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Hampshire have been deducted eight points in the County Championship for a poor pitch in the match against Nottinghamshire at the Rose Bowl.
Patel is playing due to the fact that Chanderpaul is having trouble getting a work permit/visa
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It's looking very tight at the top of the table. Durham's game is yet to finish but 9 points seperate the top three. Once the Durham - Somerset game ends, and it's unlikely that they will win, the Bears and Lancs will still have a game in hand on them. It will be interesting to see what happens when we play Lancashire in a week or so.
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Anyone else going to the freebie CB40 tomorrow evening?
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Anyone else going to the freebie CB40 tomorrow evening?
I was tempted to see how much of the game I can catch after work, but it does mean 3 smegging buses.
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Just me then, might do a couple of pre-match sharpeners in town as well.
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I think ad and me are going now but probably wont be there till half sixish.
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I think ad and me are going now but probably wont be there till half sixish.
Cliff should be coming too. He's on here as Holteman 83 I think.
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Half six? I'll be pished as a fart by then!
PM on it's way with my mobile number, give us a text when you get there.
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I'm shooting down after work.
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I'm shooting down after work.
Careful when you say that, the terrorist police might be watching the websites!
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I went but left after our innings due to it being a nightmare to get home any later
I see 14 wickets were lost @ Southport today, I hope the pitch inspectors are on their way............. ;)
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Good win for the Bears. Must admit i thought another thrashing was in the pipeline after their 2nd wicket pair put on 100 plus and Carter was banned for two head high balls after only bowiling four overs. Ant Botha changed the game around with some brilliant bowling. When you think he almost won the game against Scotland last week i can't understand how he has been told he can leave at the end of the season.
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Good win for the Bears. Must admit i thought another thrashing was in the pipeline after their 2nd wicket pair put on 100 plus and Carter was banned for two head high balls after only bowiling four overs. Ant Botha changed the game around with some brilliant bowling. When you think he almost won the game against Scotland last week i can't understand how he has been told he can leave at the end of the season.
I was confident once they needed about 57 off the last over
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Quick note to say that the club have put tickets on sale for the 5th day of the Test Match @ £10.00 each, thats Sunday,
15th of August
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Good news for the Bears, Notts have just beat Lancs by 128 runs.Makes our match at Liverpool even bigger now i would say.
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Good news for the Bears, Notts have just beat Lancs by 128 runs.Makes our match at Liverpool even bigger now i would say.
Certainly does.
Really hope those 8 points we were docked aren't the difference at the end of the season.
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Good news for the Bears, Notts have just beat Lancs by 128 runs.Makes our match at Liverpool even bigger now i would say.
It certainly does.
40 wickets have fallen in less than 3 days in the Lancs - Notts match at Southport yet no mention of the pitch inspectors being called in.
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Worcs just been bowled out for 95 in their second innings and have lost by a innings and 8 runs. Can't have been many instances of a team scoring nearly 500 and losing by a innings plus. Wonder how their coach will explain this one away?
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Worcs just been bowled out for 95 in their second innings and have lost by a innings and 8 runs. Can't have been many instances of a team scoring nearly 500 and losing by a innings plus. Wonder how their coach will explain this one away?
I'm happy with that, Yorkshire are relying on Worcs and Hampshire being crapper this season it seems.
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I see Leicestershire did well in their second innings against Essex!!
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Ramprakash has been given out obstructing the field. No sure what he did but it doesn't happen very often.
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Ramprakash has been given out obstructing the field. No sure what he did but it doesn't happen very often.
He stopped a run out by (in the umpire's opinion) deliberately stopping a fielder gathering the ball. No it doesn't happen often.
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Bloody raining in Lancashire - we need to win this game
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It is always bloody raining in Lancashire !
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My fault - I am up in the Wirral and wanted to pop along to watch the match.
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My fault - I am up in the Wirral and wanted to pop along to watch the match.
The curse of Bazz strikes again! Only works in England though!
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My fault - I am up in the Wirral and wanted to pop along to watch the match.
The curse of Bazz strikes again! Only works in England though!
Yep - the one day I am actually up in the area to see the Bears play and it pisses down!
I'm cursed never to see a cricket match be played on English soil!
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Well it's not raining now - Lancashire 131/6 :D
Hopefully we can win the game and they can get points deducted for a dodgy pitch....
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156 - 8
Carter has 4 for 10. He's on a hat trick with the 1st ball of his next over.
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189 all out - 6 wickets for Carter.
That means that they didn't get any batting points either - hopefully the pitch isn't too bad to bat on now.
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I wonder what Chanderpaul makes of it all? Jeetan Patel selected ahead of him and sends down just 6 deliveries
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Bears end on 30 - 1, Good day today need to push on and make over 350 hopefully
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My fault - I am up in the Wirral and wanted to pop along to watch the match.
Still raining in the wirral! I long for my balmy summer evenings back in Costa Del Walsall!
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I got pissed wet through walking from my Sister's to West Kirby station this evening. I was not impressed!
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Bears 280 all out, very usefull lead if we can get a few wickets tonite it would be excellent
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What's the weather forecast for Lancashire? I'm assuming it's raining, which suit neither Lancashire or us. If there is play today, it could be a win, loss, or draw.
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What's the weather forecast for Lancashire? I'm assuming it's raining, which suit neither Lancashire or us. If there is play today, it could be a win, loss, or draw.
Heavy or light rain pretty much all day
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A draw will be ok - we will gain 2 points on Lancs - as long as Durham don't win, so part of me is hoping for rain tbh
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We need 290 to win - Can't see us getting that on a day 4 pitch, after it's been raining all morning and is cloudy.
We'd have to try and race along. Might be best to play for the draw, like you say Richard.
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Must be raining again in Lancashire. They've gone to lunch and with only 2 balls bowled of the over.
The Bears seem to be going for it, Carter is in straight away.
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Aye, we're going for it like a 40 over match, Carter pinch hitting.
58-0 after 11 overs.
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Bad light stopped play now.
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Yeah, I think that's that now, but a draw is okay.
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Must be very dark!!
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It is Liverpool.
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They must have hotwired the stolen cars around the pitch and switched the headlamps on. They're back out playing and we're 86-1. We need 204 off just under 50 overs which is gettable but unlikely. The loss of more than 25 overs on the last day will hit us.
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92-4 we need some rain!
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God i hate teams from Old Trafford, i was surprised to read today that Warwickshire have not beat Lancashshire this century,the last victory coming in 1999.We wont win this one that is for sure.Like bigad82 says,we need rain.
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We haven't got enough time to win this game - can only lose it from here really, so rain/bad light would be most welcome.
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We haven't got enough time to win this game - can only lose it from here really, so rain/bad light would be most welcome.
26 overs to go and according to the on-line commentary the weather is looking ropey compared with 30 minutes ago.
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Oh no a collapse is on.......we have gone from 210-6 to 217-8, what time is close of play
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Just finished - drawn match
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Game has finished in a draw
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Just finished. Draw. Phew.
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Blimey, has us going a bit the last couple of overs.
Still a draw not a bad result, 2 points gained over Lancashire.
Hopeful Durham won't have enough time to force a victory against Notts.
Still looks all to play for. I just have a nasty suspicion those docked points against the Pears will be decisive.
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Maybe but 4 of our last 5 are against struggling Hants and Yorks - Somerset are in the mix now too
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God,the Bears love to put you through it don't they! Game as good as over and they go and lose 2 wickets in last but one over.They can not have much faith in Barker sending Patel in before him with just 11 balls left. Still good result,all still to play for.
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I wish they would show a couple more championship games on Sky,
This season is shaping up for an enthralling finish.
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The Pears' exciting - and unlikely - win in Derby tonight partially made up for Villa's disappointing performance there yesterday. After several weeks at the bottom of the C40 table we're now up to 8th.
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The Pears' exciting - and unlikely - win in Derby tonight partially made up for Villa's disappointing performance there yesterday. After several weeks at the bottom of the C40 table we're now up to 8th.
Worcestershire winning, does not make up for Villa losing Frank :-)
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The Pears' exciting - and unlikely - win in Derby tonight partially made up for Villa's disappointing performance there yesterday. After several weeks at the bottom of the C40 table we're now up to 8th.
Worcestershire winning, does not make up for Villa losing Frank :-)
I did say "partially" Adam. And if the Villa game had been a proper fixture I wouldn't even have said that
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Durham v Notts.
Match drawn.
Sexy times.
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1 Durham P12 Pts 183
2 Lancashire P12 Pts 177
3 Somerset P12 Pts 171
4 Warwickshire P11 Pts 168.
We're right in with a chance. If not for the eight points off, we'd be favourites I reckon.
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Been away from the internet for 3 weeks, what have I missed cricket wise?
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Still looks all to play for. I just have a nasty suspicion those docked points against the Pears will be decisive.
The points deduction will be important but the fact that Durham have 14 more bonus points than us will have a huge impact. We really need to win our game in hand and win it well and then go on and perform consistently for the rest of the season.
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Kieron Pollard was hitting the ball a very long way for Somerset in their T20 game at the weekend.
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Neal Abberley the ex-Bears coach and latter mentor to Ian Bell has died.
http://www.edgbaston.com/news/neal-abberley/
A fitting tribute would be for Belly to score a ton in the Edgbaston test. No Bears player has ever scored a ton in an Edgbaston test.
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Neal Abberley the ex-Bears coach and latter mentor to Ian Bell has died.
http://www.edgbaston.com/news/neal-abberley/
A fitting tribute would be for Belly to score a ton in the Edgbaston test. No Bears player has ever scored a ton in an Edgbaston test.
Sad news, I went to school with his son and they were a nice family.
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Neal Abberley the ex-Bears coach and latter mentor to Ian Bell has died.
http://www.edgbaston.com/news/neal-abberley/
A fitting tribute would be for Belly to score a ton in the Edgbaston test. No Bears player has ever scored a ton in an Edgbaston test.
I'm a Pears supporter, one of the few in this forum, but I do like Ian Bell, partly because he's a fine batsman and partly because he's a Villa fan. He wrote this handsome tribute to Neal Abberley in today's Evening Standard: LINK (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/cricket/article-23976721-i-owe-everything-to-abbers-and-will-never-forget-him.do)
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Good news that Durham lost to Hampshire, that leaves us 17 points behind them with 2 games in hand....We need to beat
Hampshire @ Edgbaston next week
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Great win for the Pears...is the great escape on? Shame Ajmal isn't there till end of season
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Great win for the Pears...is the great escape on? Shame Ajmal isn't there till end of season
You have signed the Windies paceman Kemar Roach to replace him havnt you............
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Yep, asking him to hit the ground running, a name I've heard but can't say I remember seeing him play though. Ajmal has just started to really come good like Shakib last year.
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Good news that Durham lost to Hampshire, that leaves us 17 points behind them with 2 games in hand....We need to beat
Hampshire @ Edgbaston next week
We need to win and win well. The points deduction from earlier in the season could be offset by clocking up a few more bonus points.
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Bears on telly now. Nothing on the game but hopefully we can take some form into the Championship games. Chanderpaul debuts too.
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Christ we were shit but I put that down to the fact that the match was meaningless for the Bears.
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Christ we were shit but I put that down to the fact that the match was meaningless for the Bears.
The next four days are surely the focus for the Bears!
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Christ we were shit but I put that down to the fact that the match was meaningless for the Bears.
Let's hope so.
The next four days are surely the focus for the Bears!
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Hants 48-5! Lets just hope the pitcxh doesn't get reported again!
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137-8, Woakes has 5 for 20.
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good on ya woakesy
7 for 20 not too bad an effort.
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141 all out, good performance from Woakes who returned figures of 14.4 - 3 - 20 - 7
Career best figures for another cricketing Villa fan.
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Westwood gone, making it 11 wickets in less than two sessions. I can feel a pitch report coming,
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48 - 2 at tea
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Come on you Bears
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Finished on 96 - 4........I reckon we need to get to 300 and the weather forecast for Sat, Sun is not good
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Woakes 7 for 20 and now 64 not out. What a cricketer he is.
Remains to be seen whether he cements a place in the England side; there's several in front of him at the moment, so it might take him a few years.
It might be that he doesn't quite make it, in which case he'll break all sorts of records for Warwickshire.
ETA. Jinxed it. Run out for 64.
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Woakes 7 for 20 and now 64 not out. What a cricketer he is.
Remains to be seen whether he cements a place in the England side; there's several in front of him at the moment, so it might take him a few years.
It might be that he doesn't quite make it, in which case he'll break all sorts of records for Warwickshire.
ETA. Jinxed it. Run out for 64.
I am not blaming you Hiltz but i am blaming Barker :-)
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Somerset bowled out for 177 so no batting points for them.
Pears are 116 for 2, needing another 213 to beat Lancs, so they've got an outside chance.
COME ON YOU PEARS! (that felt a little dirty)
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Somerset bowled out for 177 so no batting points for them.
Pears are 116 for 2, needing another 213 to beat Lancs, so they've got an outside chance.
COME ON YOU PEARS! (that felt a little dirty)
It's going to be an interesting days cricket at Edgbaston, Blackpool and Taunton tomorrow. Fingers crossed that the Bears get a result and that Worcester and Notts help us out by winning their respective games.
Might pop along to Edgbaston for a couple of hours tomorrow morning.
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119-3 let's finish them off Warwick
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Hampshire 163 - 4 at the close. That effectively puts them on 54 - 4. Big day for the Bears tomorrow.
Worcestershire 203 - 5 at the close, they need another 126 to win. They lost Solanki in the last half hour which is a blow to their hopes of pulling off a victory.
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Worcestershire are a bunch of useless bastards.
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5 down now for Hampshire. Trott and Woakes in England team for match against Ireland so won't be able to play for the Bears against Yorkshire. I take it we won't be allowed to pick Bell?
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5 down now for Hampshire. Trott and Woakes in England team for match against Ireland so won't be able to play for the Bears against Yorkshire. I take it we won't be allowed to pick Bell?
It depends if he is picked in the one day squad. If he's not then Bell will turn out for the Bears if the ECB grant permission. He'll turn out for the Bears whenever he can especially when we're going for the title.
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Bears finally bowled out Hants for 416, leaving us a daunting target of 308.
Even more daunting now that we're 30 for 6.
Chopra 18
Westwood 0
Porterfield 0
Chanderpaul 0
Troughton 0
Ambrose 0
Christ almighty.
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45 - 7 ...............................
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All out for 98. That's bad enough but to be bowled out in less than 40 overs is a very poor effort.
We've been better this season but the batting frailties are still very much there.
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98 all out. How we managed to lose that having bowled Hants out for 141 in the 1st innings is beyond me.
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There goes our challenge in all likelyhood.
Woakes took 7 for 20 and then scored 60odd in the first innings and finished on the losing side. That has to be some sort of record.
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That is what, I believe, is called a capitulation.
Still got a game in hand, but the Championship is now Lancashire's to lose. Pity if it comes to pass, as I've always enjoyed taking the piss out of the natives for their record over the last 80 years,
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Well we are doing ok in the current match and Durham have lost again so who knows !? Have to say the system whereby 3 of the team who have played most of the season are pulled away from an important CC game to feature in a meaningless ODI is farcical and would never happen in football.
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Well we are doing ok in the current match and Durham have lost again so who knows !? Have to say the system whereby 3 of the team who have played most of the season are pulled away from an important CC game to feature in a meaningless ODI is farcical and would never happen in football.
Havnt we lost 4 in Trott, Porterfield, Woakesy and Rankin ?? and if you take into a/c Bell having a well earned rest that half a team missing................
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Chanderpaul held us together today. Westwood and Troughton struggled again and Chopra's two double centuries seem a long long time ago. Great that Tim Ambrose seems back to somewhere near his best though. I wonder if he'll be offered another contract.
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We're back in it if we can win this game. Come on you Bears.
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We have been linked today with Gary Keedy........
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A promising youngster!
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We're back in it if we can win this game. Come on you Bears.
I think that it's Lancashire's to lose now. Assuming we win the current game, we'll still be a few points behind them. The capitulation against Hamsphire will prove to be more significant than the points deduction following the Pears game.
That said, and to quote Sir Ronald of Saunders, do you want to bet against us?
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one of the main reasons Lancs fail to win the title is the rain that falls there, Still think this will cost em
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one of the main reasons Lancs fail to win the title is the rain that falls there, Still think this will cost em
Clutching at straws there a bit mate! Two of Lancs remaining games are away.
Remaining games for the Bears and Lancs:
31st August: Bears v Yorks @ Edgbaston
31st August: Worcs v Lancs @ New Road
7th Sept: Bears v Notts @ Edgbaston
7th Sept: Lancs v Hants @ Blackpool
12th Sept: Hants v Bears @ Rose Bowl
12th Sept: Somst v Lancs @ Taunton
The Pears can do us a favour but we have to start winning the remaining games with maximum batting points.
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Oh bugger, didn't realise they still had to play Worsetershire.
Congratulations on winning the County Championship, Lancashire.
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Oh bugger, didn't realise they still had to play Worsetershire.
Congratulations on winning the County Championship, Lancashire.
Both Worcestershire and Hampshire are fighting for their lives. Hants are 21 points behind Worcs who in turn are only a point behind Yorks. The Bears and Pears can do each other a good turn here!
This time last year the Bears were still under threat and we pulled away. All is not lost but max points are needed from every game.
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When did the Bears sign Chanderpaul, his picture isn't even on the website?
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When did the Bears sign Chanderpaul, his picture isn't even on the website?
Mid July and he came over after the Windies - India series and made his debut earlier this month.
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When did the Bears sign Chanderpaul, his picture isn't even on the website?
Mid July and he came over after the Windies - India series and made his debut earlier this month.
167 no overnight against the Tykes as well!
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Bears 451-7 at lunch on the third day. Lots of depressed Yorkies where I am!
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So Keith Barker is the new Chris Woakes then.
There better be someone coming through as the new Keith Barker.
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Warwick win by an innings and 58 runs, they are up to 2nd now and 3 points behind Lancs!
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Great result for the Bears and 23 vital points. Good 5-fer from Wright
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Why or why couldn't they have beaten Hants? I think we'll live to regret that capitulation.
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Why or why couldn't they have beaten Hants? I think we'll live to regret that capitulation.
I think that you may well be right
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That eight fucking point deduction on a pitch where Warwickshire managed to score loads of runs but some sneaky fucking journalist reported the pitch is going to cost us the title you know.
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That eight fucking point deduction on a pitch where Warwickshire managed to score loads of runs but some sneaky fucking journalist reported the pitch is going to cost us the title you know.
Agreed Chas.........100%
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That eight fucking point deduction on a pitch where Warwickshire managed to score loads of runs but some sneaky fucking journalist reported the pitch is going to cost us the title you know.
Agreed Chas.........100%
It was a shocking pitch though. We scored runs because the Worcs attack was so shite they couldn't exploit the uneven bounce; once we bowled on it people we getting hit right left and centre.
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That eight fucking point deduction on a pitch where Warwickshire managed to score loads of runs but some sneaky fucking journalist reported the pitch is going to cost us the title you know.
Agreed Chas.........100%
It was a shocking pitch though. We scored runs because the Worcs attack was so shite they couldn't exploit the uneven bounce; once we bowled on it people we getting hit right left and centre.
Maybe but it was the same pitch for both teams and it was made worse by Rhodes the weasel bleating to the press about it
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Maybe but it was the same pitch for both teams and it was made worse by Rhodes the weasel bleating to the press about it
I'm not sure saying 'It was dangerous for both teams' is much of a defence, to be fair. You're right about Rhodes though: he worked himself up into a right old state about it. The weird thing for me was that the umpires didn't report it; they were more or less the only people in the stadium who didn't see anything out of the ordinary. Once the pitch inspector got there and had a look he called it a shocker straight away.
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Maybe but it was the same pitch for both teams and it was made worse by Rhodes the weasel bleating to the press about it
I'm not sure saying 'It was dangerous for both teams' is much of a defence, to be fair. You're right about Rhodes though: he worked himself up into a right old state about it. The weird thing for me was that the umpires didn't report it; they were more or less the only people in the stadium who didn't see anything out of the ordinary. Once the pitch inspector got there and had a look he called it a shocker straight away.
Thats the issue for me as the umpires were responsible for the game and its up to them to decide if the conditions are unfair/poor yet as you say they must have thought it was ok as the did not report it to Lords
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And now the Pears play both Lancashire and Durham so have a say in the title's outcome... I'd still settle for the games we have left - Yorkshire at home and Hampshire
Fair dos to Giles for getting in Wright and Chanderpaul. And credit to Barker, who's looked good this season when I've seen him
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Thats the issue for me as the umpires were responsible for the game and its up to them to decide if the conditions are unfair/poor yet as you say they must have thought it was ok as the did not report it to Lords
God knows why they thought that; poor judgement I suppose. I guess that's why we have official pitch inspectors.
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Great result for the Bears today. I to fear that Hampshire result will come to haunt us at the end of the day.Still you never know in cricket,anything is possible and we are in there fighting.
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Three games to go and we have to win all of them with as many points as possible. Forget what Lancashire may or may not do, we have to focus on our own matches.
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I notice we have been deducted 9 points now this season - 8 for the Worcs pitch I know about but when was the other and what for ?
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Slow bowling rate in the match against Hampshire i belive
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Lancashire have had 1 point deducted too. Was that for a slow over rate as well?
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Lancashire have had 1 point deducted too. Was that for a slow over rate as well?
Yes, see here. (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ccdiv1-11/engine/series/491206.html?view=pointstable) Scroll down for details.
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Good job the Bears finished the match off yesterday as it is raining cats and dogs here in Leeds today!
Did Giles offer any explanation for the collapse againts Hants btw?
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zero % Bears or Pears but the end of the Leics - Lancs 2020 semi is compelling watching. Cricket's equivalent of the penalty shoot out.
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zero % Bears or Pears but the end of the Leics - Lancs 2020 semi is compelling watching. Cricket's equivalent of the penalty shoot out.
And the Hampshire - Somerset semi has also gone to a super over. Great viewing!
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See the Bears put in another woeful performance in a one day game. Thank god that was the last one day game for this season. I know there was nothing riding on the match,but you could say the same about Northants.Big rethink needed for next season.
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See the Bears put in another woeful performance in a one day game. Thank god that was the last one day game for this season. I know there was nothing riding on the match,but you could say the same about Northants.Big rethink needed for next season.
Indeed!
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A day to forget about who Villa are not signing and concentrate on the Bears push for the title - COME ON !!
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zero % Bears or Pears but the end of the Leics - Lancs 2020 semi is compelling watching. Cricket's equivalent of the penalty shoot out.
As somebody who really doesn't like 2020 I can see it's only a matter of time before finals day will involve every county playing knock out 'cricket' involving 1 over each.
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Things going reasonably well today.
The Bears struggled early on but the Yorkies are 213 - 5. Lancs were all out for 161 at New Road but the Pears are 112 - 5. Somerset were all out for 204, however I think that it's between the Bears and Lancs.
Some middle order resistance would be nice please Worcestershire!
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Worcestershire are helping the Bears but we really myst capitalise!
Lancs are 49 - 5 in their 2nd innings, still 27 short of making Worcester bat again.
The Bears are 91 - 2, 190 runs behind. Need a big score please Mr Chanderpaul!
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Lancs 60 - 8 still 16 short of making the Pears bat again.
Are the perennial bottlers going to mess it up again?
Come on you Bears!!!!!
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Come Bears, the sun is shining so rattle up a big score please.
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Chokers 80 all out, Worcs need 4 to win!
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The Pears did us a HUGE favour in beating Lancs by 10 wickets. Seems to be pretty attritional stuff at Edgbaston today, 168 - 4 off 59 overs. 113 behind. Hopefully we'll still be 4 down at the close and the deficit much smaller.
Thank you Worcestershire!
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Well done you Pears............I may forgive Rhodes whining about the "deadly" pitch now
Bears currently 223 - 4, Shiv on 74 and Timmy Ambrose on 53
COME ON U BEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRS
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Ton up for Shiverin' Shivnarine... if we can win this we go favourites I reckon. Lancashire lost, Somerset in trouble, unfortunately Durham are well on top. Need a win. COME ON YOU BEARS!
(and thank you You Pears!)
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Ah bollocksing arsing shitting jinx! Chanderpaul gone for 110. 272/5.
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Does anyone know if we have given Timmy a new contract ?? His batting over the past month deserves it
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Bears finish on 281 - 6, They lost nightwatchman Metters in the last over. So scores are level and Ambrose is 68no with Clarke, Woaksey,Wright and "Sachin" Barker to bat..............Oh if we could get to 400/450 it would be excellent
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If we could eke out a 150+ first innings lead, then the least we should get is a draw and enough points to take us above Lancs.
Whilst Durham are looking likely winners against Sussex, don't forget that this is their penultimate game. Still reckon it is between us and Lancs.
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Well done pears, come on you Bears!
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I've had an excellent day at New Road today. Beating the championship leaders in a day and a half is some achievement. Now you Bears can return the favour by beating Yorks!
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I've had an excellent day at New Road today. Beating the championship leaders in a day and a half is some achievement. Now you Bears can return the favour by beating Yorks!
Sounds like a dodgy pitch to me, I demand an enquiry.
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I've had an excellent day at New Road today. Beating the championship leaders in a day and a half is some achievement. Now you Bears can return the favour by beating Yorks!
Sounds like a dodgy pitch to me, I demand an enquiry.
The bounce was low but the pitch looked pretty true to me. My definition of "dodgy" would be the Edgbaston pitch in May, when 3 of our batsmen had to retire hurt, so the Bears only had to take 7 wickets to win.
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I've had an excellent day at New Road today. Beating the championship leaders in a day and a half is some achievement. Now you Bears can return the favour by beating Yorks!
Sounds like a dodgy pitch to me, I demand an enquiry.
The bounce was low but the pitch looked pretty true to me. My definition of "dodgy" would be the Edgbaston pitch in May, when 3 of our batsmen had to retire hurt, so the Bears only had to take 7 wickets to win.
Warwickshire batted okay on it.
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Judging by what I've heard, the pitch at Edgbaston we were docked points for does sound dangerous. Thing is, if it WAS, and the umpires didn't report it.., why weren't the umpires punished as well as Warwickshire?
Anyway, I would tell the batters to just go and have a whack tomorrow. If it comes off, we'll have a lead of 150 or so, if not we'll have a lead of 30ish... not a disaster. Thanks to Worcestershire's win, a draw is no good to Yorkshire so hopefully batting fourth we will benefit from a generous declaration to try to engineer a result, if we can't just beat them anyway.
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Judging by what I've heard, the pitch at Edgbaston we were docked points for does sound dangerous. Thing is, if it WAS, and the umpires didn't report it.., why weren't the umpires punished as well as Warwickshire?
I was at two days of that game, okay I wasn't facing the bowling but it didn't look any worse than a heck of a lot of early season seamers. Warwickshire scored 380 odd without looking unduly worried, the odd ball reared up and rapped the gloves, mainly Wusster gloves I must say so maybe they didn't have the bowlers to exploit the pitch. The ball that hit Solanki was a genuine fast bouncer.
The umpires didn't report it because there was bugger all wrong with it except that Wusster coudnt handle it as well as Warwickshire could. The match went well into four days with minimal rain breaks, hardly the statistics of a truly dodgy pitch.
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Judging by what I've heard, the pitch at Edgbaston we were docked points for does sound dangerous. Thing is, if it WAS, and the umpires didn't report it.., why weren't the umpires punished as well as Warwickshire?
I was at two days of that game, okay I wasn't facing the bowling but it didn't look any worse than a heck of a lot of early season seamers. Warwickshire scored 380 odd without looking unduly worried, the odd ball reared up and rapped the gloves, mainly Wusster gloves I must say so maybe they didn't have the bowlers to exploit the pitch. The ball that hit Solanki was a genuine fast bouncer.
The umpires didn't report it because there was bugger all wrong with it except that Wusster coudnt handle it as well as Warwickshire could. The match went well into four days with minimal rain breaks, hardly the statistics of a truly dodgy pitch.
Warwick certainly had the more hostile bowlers and your batsmen were better able to cope with an uneven bounce than we were. You are, after all, a better team than we are. Worcester were also unlucky to be batting on the 3rd day - which is the one I watched - when the pitch was particularly difficult after rain on a surface that was already cracked, followed by sunshine. Bell and Trott both criticised it, as did the umpires. The reason why the umpires didn't call in the pitch panel was that the ECB had already summoned it.
Anyway, back to the present game: good luck to the Bears tomorrow. As you say, Chris, a draw isn't much use for Yorkshire and a lead of anything more than 100 should give you a very good chance of a win.
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But was it really worth an eight point deduction? There were also other circumstances, it was the first time that pitch had been played on since the ECB forced Edgbaston to install new drainage to comply with test match status, plus the changing conditions from the new stand.
Either way, I can guarantee there have been worse pitches than that this season that have gone unpunished, some games haven't lasted two days, was that just down to 22 shit batsmen?
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I've had an excellent day at New Road today. Beating the championship leaders in a day and a half is some achievement. Now you Bears can return the favour by beating Yorks!
Sounds like a dodgy pitch to me, I demand an enquiry.
The bounce was low but the pitch looked pretty true to me. My definition of "dodgy" would be the Edgbaston pitch in May, when 3 of our batsmen had to retire hurt, so the Bears only had to take 7 wickets to win.
Is that the dodgy pitch that the Bears scored almost 400 runs on in the 1st innings...............
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Lancashire and Somerset both picking up bugger all points from their matches. Shame Durham look certain to win.
We've managed to put ourselves into a reasonable position against Yorkshire.
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The tykes are 238 - 5 in their second innings, a lead of 201. We really need to get the remaining 5 wickets pretty damn quickly because because a chase of anything over 250 will be a tough ask on a day 4 pitch.
I'm going to venture down to Edgbaston tomorrow, it promises to be a good days cricket.
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Yorkies finish @ 319 for 5 a lead of 282, the last wicket have put on 149 so far. I hope im wrong but its not looking good
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Ultimately a frustrating day for the Bears. Troughton & Chanderpaul were well set and they were going for it when bad light stopped play. 135 off 20 was needed which if the sun was shining we'd have been well set for a win.
Bears are now second behind Durham with a game in hand. Still all to play for.
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I agree Zogmeister. I fancied us to chase down that total with 20 or so left.
We must do well against Notts.
Is Rankin back?
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Bears 2nd XI playing Glamorgan over the next few days for the title of best second team.
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Bears 235 - 3 off 82.5, bad light stopped play. Westwood in not out on 144, a good knock from him.
Lancs are 337 - 7 having recovered from 125 - 5.
Bears have earned 1 bonus point, Lancs 3.
We really must win this one but I fear that the weather will have a big say in the outcome.
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COYB
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Why has there been no play in the cricket today? it has been overcast, but not too bad in Chelmsley today and hasn't rained at all - Get the lazy sods back out there.
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Why has there been no play in the cricket today? it has been overcast, but not too bad in Chelmsley today and hasn't rained at all - Get the lazy sods back out there.
There has been about 30 minutes play. They went off first for light and then for rain. I was listening to the BBC on-line commentary, the Bears fans were not happy and their language was a little colurful. It got so bad that they had to turn their effects mic down.
The Bears want to play but as bad light is now the umpire's call, if they're not happy with it then tough luck on the players and spectators.
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Thanks VZL
They do seem to be playing again now, think the umpire's must have been taking the piss a bit, hasn't been that dark.
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Why has there been no play in the cricket today? it has been overcast, but not too bad in Chelmsley today and hasn't rained at all - Get the lazy sods back out there.
The umpires took them off for bad light apparently for most of the morning, Bears now 440/5 looking to get to 450 and bowl them out twice, weather looks quite bright now. Hants 118-2 in reply to Lancs 388
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The umps have the say on bad light these days and have called the Bears off in this match and in the previous one. Kevin Howells on twitter said that light meters should be brought back as the PR backlash is making cricket look a bit stupid particularly over both these instances because the Bears wer batting and never wanted to go off!
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Bears seem to be going for 500, Rikki Clarke has hit 81 off 78 balls
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Did we get the batting bonus points?
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Did we get the batting bonus points?
We will get 5 when we get to 500
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574 - 7 declared
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A mate has just phoned me from Edgbaston, he says that the hitting from Rikki Clarke was brutal, we've clawed back most of that lost time now.
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Did we get the batting bonus points?
We will get 5 when we get to 500
We won't, bonus points are only earned for the first 110 overs of the 1st innings. We've got 3 bonus points to date with another 3 available for bowling Notts out.
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Did we get the batting bonus points?
We will get 5 when we get to 500
We won't, bonus points are only earned for the first 110 overs of the 1st innings. We've got 3 bonus points to date with another 3 available for bowling Notts out.
Sorry i didnt know that...........
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A mate has just phoned me from Edgbaston, he says that the hitting from Rikki Clarke was brutal, we've clawed back most of that lost time now.
126 off 101 balls with 96 scored in boundaries, 18 x 4 and 4 sixes. He scored 30 off 77. Piss poor effort if you ask me (winky thing)
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Did we get the batting bonus points?
We will get 5 when we get to 500
We won't, bonus points are only earned for the first 110 overs of the 1st innings. We've got 3 bonus points to date with another 3 available for bowling Notts out.
Sorry i didnt know that...........
No worries - nowt to apologise for!!
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What's the weather like up that way today? It's crap down here. Hope we get some play, will be listening on radio via bbc website.
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The bonus points used to be from the first 120 overs, but have been changed in the last few years to 110.
Think the bowling points are something like:-
3-5 Wickets = 1 Point
6-8 Wickets = 2 Points
9-10 Wickets = 3 Points
Weather here (well in Chelmsley anyway) is slightly brighter than yesterday, but still a bit overcast.
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CricketingBears Carmen Hugh Bear
Warwickshire 2nd XI win the 2nd Xi Championship Trophy today against Glamorgan Well done guys.
Nice!
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Good Stuff.
I work out that assuming we don't lose (surely impossible from this position) we'll move above Durham regardless of whether we win or draw.
Lancashire's game against Hampshire is very close at the moment.
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Two quick wickets after lunch leave Notts 187/6 with Woakes taking 4 wickets so far
Come on You Bears..................................
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Looking like we'll be able to enforce the follow on - 2 wickets to go and they're 336 behind.
If not for the threat of bad weather, I'd be confident of victory.
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Bears bowl Notts out for 238 a lead of 336
Come on you Bears...................
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Got to enforce the follow on now and push on for the win.
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Got to enforce the follow on now and push on for the win.
Follow on enforced
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And a wicket taken.
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Looking promising with the weather forecast favourable, especially as Lancashire will do well to beat Hampshire as it stands currently.
I went along yesterday and Rikki Clarke was outstanding, really entertainining, alongside Troughton who put together a very controlled innings, as well as some nice shots of his own. He's had a few problems with his own form but Bears are a good team under him this season.
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252 behind and 9 wickets left, Come on you Bears
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Off for bad light....I know.
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Back playing again............
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108 - 3, still 228 behind.
Huge day tomorrow and we really need the weather to be kind to us.
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115 - 4
Just need Hales out................
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Now 5 down. The victory is there for the taking. What's the weather forecast for tomorrow?
Lancs-Hants is currently looking like a draw is the most likely result. Crosses fingers for both outcomes.
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And now 123 for 6.
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6 Down.............
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Now 5 down. The victory is there for the taking. What's the weather forecast for tomorrow?
BBC Weather shows forecast as dry and cloudy
Can we claim the extra 30 mins..........
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Notts 136 - 6 @ stumps and they trail by 200
Come on you Bears.................
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I was thinking that... just as CricInfo showed the close of play score!
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If it wasn't for the fucking umpires we'd have won by now.
COME ON YOU BEARS!
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Great day for the mighty Bears.
Bright Sunny day at Edgbaston and torrential rain at Liverpool tomorrow please.
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Have they lost any play at all in the Lancs game yet? Since when did Merseyside turn into fucking Dubai?
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You Bears!!!!
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Great bit of bowling there, let's finish them off tomorrow!
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Underway in both games and the Bears take a 7th wicket !!
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one more wicket to take.
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YOU BEARRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSS!
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Done. An innings victory. Now just need rain/Hants batting out the draw in Liverpool.
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Get in you mighty Bears.
Will Trott and Bell be released to play in the last game? I notice there is a gap between the 4th and 5th ODI's.
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS!
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Done. An innings victory. Now just need rain/Hants batting out the draw in Liverpool.
How long left in the Lancs game?
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Done. An innings victory. Now just need rain/Hants batting out the draw in Liverpool.
How long left in the Lancs game?
Final day, Hants just need to bat for 2 and a bit sessions.
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well done the bears Lancs have set Hants 361 in 67 overs. Maybe a few too many to chase. hopefully a bit of rain to lose a dozen or so overs. Hants also have an eye on worcesters game, who look like losing. They may take the view that a draw against lancs will close the gaps on the pairs by about 6 points.
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Done. An innings victory. Now just need rain/Hants batting out the draw in Liverpool.
How long left in the Lancs game?
Final day, Hants just need to bat for 2 and a bit sessions.
Ta.
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Meanwhile elsewhere in Liverpool, Hampshire are collapsing. Unless it starts pissing down, Lancashire are going to win.
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Meanwhile elsewhere in Liverpool, Hampshire are collapsing. Unless it starts pissing down, Lancashire are going to win.
Which means we will have a 3 point lead going into Monday's games
Come on you Bears...........
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Balls.........Lancashire (well Simon Kerrigan) beat Hants, I reckon they too the last Hants wicket in the last over of the day,
Kerrigan finished with 9 for 51 off 37 overs
Must be in contention for a trip to India/UAE as England's 2nd spinner this winter
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In our hands, Hants down anyway.......COYB!!!!
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Anyone else be happy if next week England was swept with autumnal storms and torrential downpours meaning that no cricket at all was possible anywhere?
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Anyone else be happy if next week England was swept with autumnal storms and torrential downpours meaning that no cricket at all was possible anywhere?
Absolutely. We may be a bit lucky with the fixtures in that we are playing in more or less the same part of the country as Lancashire. If we get shafted by the rain, so should they.
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I read yesterday that Durham havent offered Ben Harmison a new contract is he worth a punt for the Bears ??
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Dunno, is he any good? I'd happily take a punt on Steve Harmison still.
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Not for me to be honest. Not as good as Barker in the all rounder category.
Bears game on sky Monday to Thursday btw.
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Not for me to be honest. Not as good as Barker in the all rounder category.
Bears game on sky Monday to Thursday btw.
Great.
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Pity I'm at work. Might be able to sneak home early on Thursday to watch the conclusion if it's still going.
Bears need to get at least six bonus points (less if Lancs drop any). That way it stays in our hands... a win makes us Champions. If Lancashire get three or more bonus points than us they'll be Champions if they win regardless of how we get on.
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Agreed. The first task is to get maximum bonus points.
I don't know if I'm disappointed or not that Hants are already down. Sometimes after a season of struggle, teams have one last hurrah after the axe has finally fallen. Lancashire's opponents, Somerset, meanwhile are long-since out of the title race, Trescothick is injured and are perhaps mentally already putting feet up for the close season.
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Hants are not already down though as if they beat us and Worcs mess up v Durham they could survive.
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Think Worcestershire only need a few bonus points to finish above Yorkshire.
Wouldn't have minded it raining this week, giving the Bears the Championship, but the forecast says sunshine every day (typical).
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187-2 at tea
Chopra 80*
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242-2
Chopra 101*
Chanderpaul 77*
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Century for Chopra and Chanderpaul 73*
Not bad under pressure so far.
Durham aren't doing that well either, although Lancashire are the main threat.
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Ton for Chanderpal too, 271 for 2.
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Bears finish on 296 for 3 with 14 overs left to get bonus points and have 2 batting points so far
Somerset end on 314 for 5 and Lancs only have 6 overs left to get bonus points and have 1 bowling point so far
Durham 254 all out and Pears 21 for 1 so Durham only have 2 batting bonus points
I reckon day 1 to the Bears
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I reckon we'll go for 350 before 110 overs is up. That'll leave us in a good position. One bowling point would be enough to ensure Durham can't win it, a win (assuming we get at least one bowling point) would guarantee the title whatever Lancashire do... and Lancs look like dropping at least one maybe two bowling points themselves.
Not a bad day at all. Still slightly worried about getting shafted by weather if everyone else gets blazing sunshine and we get a load of shit though.
COYB.
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The weather is a concern but we are lucky that Taunton and Southampton are in the bottom half of the country and not too far apart so hopefully we both should get the same weather.................
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I thought that but we already lost half an hour this morning while Lucky Lancs haven't lost a second's play in eight days. If they'd even had five minutes off the field in the last game, we'd have pretty much wrapped up the title already.
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England batsman Jonathan Trott has been named as cricketer of the year at the ICC's awards and he is a Bear
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England batsman Jonathan Trott has been named as cricketer of the year at the ICC's awards and he is a Bear
Indeed congrats to Trotty
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I make it that if we win and can take 6 wickets in the first 110 overs of Hampshire's innings then Lancashire can't catch us, even if they get maximum batting points and win their game.
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Very peculiar tactics today from the Bears. They should definitely have got the 4th batting point.
Hope it doesn't come back to bite us.
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Very peculiar tactics today from the Bears. They should definitely have got the 4th batting point.
Hope it doesn't come back to bite us.
They did the same in the last game against Notts. Putting all their eggs in the innings victory basket was how the Independent correspondent described it.
The Pears have collapsed from 255 for 3 to 288 for 9. Now all out without getting the bonus point they badly needed.
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Very peculiar tactics today from the Bears. They should definitely have got the 4th batting point.
Hope it doesn't come back to bite us.
They did the same in the last game against Notts. Putting all their eggs in the innings victory basket was how the Independent correspondent described it.
The Pears have collapsed from 255 for 3 to 288 for 9. Now all out without getting the bonus point they badly needed.
It just seems odd to me. We needed 54 in about 14 overs on a flat pitch against a poor attack. We didn't even make an effort to go after the point.
The run rate dramatically improved in the Notts game. It hasn't here.
Anyway, 8 down now. May as well get bowling.
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479-9
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Come on Warwick, lets finish them off tomorrow!
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Big day today
Come on you Bears...........................
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I think Worcester's collapse might help the Bears. Hampshire now know they have a chance of survival but only if they win and go hell for leather to get 400 off 110 overs. That should mean we get opportunities for wickets.
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It's going to be an interesting morning. Really hope we can get an early wicket. Just teaching my little one to shout "Howzat". COYB
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Hampshire 2 down....crosses fingers !
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Hampshire 2 down....crosses fingers !
3 now, come on the Bears...
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I reckon we need 2 more wickets before the first 110 overs are up, to be a point clear of Lancashire. Then we'd just need to match their result. Could well be a draw in both games.
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253-6. Dawson is still in and is a thorn in our side at the moment. Lancs are 100 ahead on first inns thanks to a last wicket partnership of 57!
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3 quick wickets from the Bears. I think that means we just need to match their result to be champions.
Also, the vague chance of enforcing the follow on (need to get 3 wickets before they get 38 more runs). This may be a situation where we'd choose to bat for a bit first though?
Just hope Somerset don't collapse in their second innings.
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What makes me laugh is in the media, for some reason no one seems to want the Bears to win. I hope we do it.
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Lancashire are going to win their match.
Somerset are 25-3 in their second innings.
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3 quick wickets from the Bears. I think that means we just need to match their result to be champions.
Also, the vague chance of enforcing the follow on (need to get 3 wickets before they get 38 more runs). This may be a situation where we'd choose to bat for a bit first though?
Just hope Somerset don't collapse in their second innings.
Remember It's a 150 difference for the follow on in county ganes.
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Hampshire all out and following on.
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They're all out for 324.
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come on you bears
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YOUUUUU BEEEARRRRSSSS!
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Just about in the end. Great catch from Rikki Clarke to finish off their first innings. Lancs should win their match so pressure on.
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Yes, sorry. I was forgetting that the follow on is 150 in County Cricket and 200 in International.
Good job too!
COME ON YOU BEEEEEAAAAAARRRRRRSSSSS.
I assume the Pears are now safe officially?
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Yes, sorry. I was forgetting that the follow on is 150 in County Cricket and 200 in International.
Good job too!
COME ON YOU BEEEEEAAAAAARRRRRRSSSSS.
I assume the Pears are now safe officially?
Yes, Hants and Yorks down.
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What makes me laugh is in the media, for some reason no one seems to want the Bears to win. I hope we do it.
Is that the same media that also hates the Villa. Or is it just us?
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28 for 3.
You Bears.
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With Somerset's second innings lead 5 for 5, Lancs are going to win. So it is 7 wickets between us and the Championship.
What's the weather forecast?
Please, please, please let it happen. I've got a phone call I need to make to a mate and Lancs fan - and I've been holding off making it in the hope that I can gloat.
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Weather is set fair so I think..............
Getting Carberry/McKenzie early is going to be very important
COME ON YOU BEARS................................
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Even if they put on 300 for the last 7 wickets we should still have enough time to win it. Just don't fucking rain! I won't sleep tonight. COME ON YOU BEARS!
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Great day for the Bears but still work to do, COYB!!!
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Weather is set fair so I think..............
Getting Carberry/McKenzie early is going to be very important
COME ON YOU BEARS................................
Spot on.
COYB!!!!!!!!!
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What makes me laugh is in the media, for some reason no one seems to want the Bears to win. I hope we do it.
Is that the same media that also hates the Villa. Or is it just us?
I think it's more their egos, almost to a man every pundit predicted Warwickshire to go down this season.
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COYB
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Its been pretty sunny here in Bournemouth all week, so the weather shouldnt be a problem.
I was there on Monday, just a pity i have too much on tomorrow as it would be great to be there to see us clinch it.
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What makes me laugh is in the media, for some reason no one seems to want the Bears to win. I hope we do it.
Is that the same media that also hates the Villa. Or is it just us?
I think it's more their egos, almost to a man every pundit predicted Warwickshire to go down this season.
We played Lancashire about a month ago and SSN were saying "will Lancashire be able to close the gap on Durham?". I thought 'what about us, we're up there as well'. Cheeky feckers.
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What makes me laugh is in the media, for some reason no one seems to want the Bears to win. I hope we do it.
Is that the same media that also hates the Villa. Or is it just us?
I think it's more their egos, almost to a man every pundit predicted Warwickshire to go down this season.
We played Lancashire about a month ago and SSN were saying "will Lancashire be able to close the gap on Durham?". I thought 'what about us, we're up there as well'. Cheeky feckers.
Allott, who played for Lancs, is the worst followed by Willis. You'd never have thought that R G D Willis ever wore the Bear and Ragged Staff on his jumper, he's a total knob. At least Nick Knight is still a bit one-eyed!
We never got any credit under Woolmer in the mid-1990's when we were a wonderful side, the cricket media only care if a home-counties side are doing well. Usual home-counties bias.
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C'mon you Bears!
Let's win it and make those Lancs boys suffer again, oh and make all those cricket journos look like knobs for getting it wrong!
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Don't agree with the media not wanting us. If you have been watching sky you will be hearing Nick Knight very eager for a bears win. I know he is a former player but in his job i am sure he should be coming across as a neutral.
Was pleased with the last hour yesterday, fingers crossed for a start like that this morning.
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Hmmm.......
Not going too well so far today.
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No breakthrough so far this morning.
It's getting a tad worrying, as these two are well set now.
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What makes me laugh is in the media, for some reason no one seems to want the Bears to win. I hope we do it.
Granted i only ever read the cricket reports in the Guardian or Observer but have never noticed any media bias, cricket reporting is generally excellent. Don't have Sky so haven't a clue what their view is but as Nick Knight is one of their commentators i'm guessing he is slightly biased and 5 Live has Dougie Brown commentating and willing them on.
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Not a good morning session. :'(
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Wakes makes the breakthrough, Carberry gone.
210 for 4, 41 ahead.
Trego doing us a favour at Somerset too, still plenty to play for.
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This ain't going well. I reckon Lancs must now be the favourites.
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This ain't going well. I reckon Lancs must now be the favourites.
Without a doubt. Barring a choke filled run chase from them, which isn't beyond the realms of possibility
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Lancs need 211 off approximately 32 overs.
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Lancs need 211 off approximately 32 overs.
let's hope the pressure of the scoreboard will take it's toll....
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I think as it stands at present, there's only one team that will be seen to have done a Devon Loch.
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I blame DC5 and villajk! ;)
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Lancs have had to begin their innings with a tricky 5 over session before tea... and rattled along at a run-a-ball.
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Looks like more bragging rights for the north west. Warks need to clean these up pronto but not looking good.
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Lancs have lost a couple of wickets, c'mon Zumerset.
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Looks like the jig is up for The Bears. Nonetheless, a tremendous achievement for this young squad to finish as runners up.
I must admit that having watched the last two games at Edgbaston, I was not at all sanguine about bowling Hampshire out twice on that wicket.
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Unlucky Bears, well done Lancs. Missed out right at the last but it's been a great effort.
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Yes agree as a lot of pundits thought we would go down ! Think in the end our conservative tactics cost us compared to Lancashires more adventurous approach.
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The Lancashire Love-in officially starts now. A feel a little like I did that Sunday afternoon when Villa lost to Oldham and effectively let Man Utd win their first championship in years.
An interesting argument to be had as to how central contracts may have helped England achieve number one Test status, but how it has effected the counties. Would we have secured more batting points/saved matches had Bell and Trott featured in more games, or would Anderson have secured more bowling points/victories for Lancs?
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Once again the Championship goes into the final round of matches with the title still undecided and 3 teams in with a chance of winning it, wish the premiership could be half as interesting and unpredictable.
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A brave effort from Warwickshire who have had a fantastic season in the championship.............
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Bugger it, I turned on the pc and did not expect to read that today, oh well move on and smash it next season!
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The Lancashire Love-in officially starts now. A feel a little like I did that Sunday afternoon when Villa lost to Oldham and effectively let Man Utd win their first championship in years.
An interesting argument to be had as to how central contracts may have helped England achieve number one Test status, but how it has effected the counties. Would we have secured more batting points/saved matches had Bell and Trott featured in more games, or would Anderson have secured more bowling points/victories for Lancs?
lets not start talking silliness like this. The county championship and the whole of the structure of cricket is designed now to help the pinnacle, which is england. Ok, we lost tonight but lets embrace the fact that england are the best team in the world and our young guns gave it a great fight. Our run in may have been distorted a little by the signing of chanderpaul so i hope they continue to limit the amount of overseas players so english youth can flourish and money does not prevaile totally!
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Unlucky boys, a cracking effort. Hopefully we can kick on from this and with a couple of signings we can challenge again.
YOU BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Considering many of the so-called experts had us down for relegation, to go that close was a great all-round team effort - nine wins in a season, many by huge margins, was something special. At least the controversial eight-point pitch penalty for the Worcester game is an irrelevance.
I'm shortly going home to delete eight hours of coverage from Sky+ as the thought of seeing Paul Allott and hearing his sneering tones are too much.
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The Lancashire Love-in officially starts now. A feel a little like I did that Sunday afternoon when Villa lost to Oldham and effectively let Man Utd win their first championship in years.
An interesting argument to be had as to how central contracts may have helped England achieve number one Test status, but how it has effected the counties. Would we have secured more batting points/saved matches had Bell and Trott featured in more games, or would Anderson have secured more bowling points/victories for Lancs?
lets not start talking silliness like this. The county championship and the whole of the structure of cricket is designed now to help the pinnacle, which is england. Ok, we lost tonight but lets embrace the fact that england are the best team in the world and our young guns gave it a great fight. Our run in may have been distorted a little by the signing of chanderpaul so i hope they continue to limit the amount of overseas players so english youth can flourish and money does not prevaile totally!
Correct.
Cricket is totally different from football. Generally football fans put club before country, in cricket it is extremely rare to find a fan who puts their county before England.
Warwickshire had a great four day season (shite in one-dayers mind!) and I'm very proud of them, but I'm equally as proud to see Trott and local lad Bell lead the best Test team in the World to glory.
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I don't want to look at the table just yet but can someone tell me if the points deduction made a big difference, I have a bad feeling that it did?
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I don't want to look at the table just yet but can someone tell me if the points deduction made a big difference, I have a bad feeling that it did?
Made no difference in the end.
Great season for a young squad deprived of its best two players for the vast majority of it.
Can't help but feel that if we'd have batted a lot quicker on the second day we'd be celebrating a title now.
Still, well done Bears.
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Rutski and Dave, it was only meant to be one of those 'what if' pub debates! I, too, think the Test team should be the priority, as the whole of cricket then benefits, both in terms of overall raised standards and the finances distributed to the counties.
What I would say is Peter Moores's record, first at Sussex and now at Lancashire, does beg the question what he could have achieved given time as England coach. When Andy Flowers moves on, the ECB could do a lot worse than looking at Moores again.
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Rutski and Dave, it was only meant to be one of those 'what if' pub debates! I, too, think the Test team should be the priority, as the whole of cricket then benefits, both in terms of overall raised standards and the finances distributed to the counties.
What I would say is Peter Moores's record, first at Sussex and now at Lancashire, does beg the question what he could have achieved given time as England coach. When Andy Flowers moves on, the ECB could do a lot worse than looking at Moores again.
I have a feeling Giles is in their long term plans.
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I don't want to look at the table just yet but can someone tell me if the points deduction made a big difference, I have a bad feeling that it did?
Made no difference in the end.
Great season for a young squad deprived of its best two players for the vast majority of it.
Can't help but feel that if we'd have batted a lot quicker on the second day we'd be celebrating a title now.
Still, well done Bears.
I don't class Bell and Trott as Warwickshire players any longer. They're members of "Team England" who will play for the Bears as and when time and Andy Flowers allow. Bell is a Bear through and through but for the forseeable future he and Trott are no more than guest players.
A good deason for the Bears and there's no shame in losing the title on the last day of the season to a better all round team. The what ifs, should haves and could haves will rumble on but thankfully the pitchgate deduction proved to be irrelevant. That we failed to beat Hampshire, who finished bottom of the table, twice in the last few weeks of the season ultimately had greater impact.
YOU BEARS!!
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Ultimately a good season for a young team.
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Rutski and Dave, it was only meant to be one of those 'what if' pub debates! I, too, think the Test team should be the priority, as the whole of cricket then benefits, both in terms of overall raised standards and the finances distributed to the counties.
Yes, I got it, I just wanted to highlight the difference in attitude of both the fans and the clubs/counties between football and cricket.
Imagine any Premier League club agreeing to have their England internationals put on a central contract so that England could take them away whenever they wanted!
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I don't want to look at the table just yet but can someone tell me if the points deduction made a big difference, I have a bad feeling that it did?
Made no difference in the end.
Great season for a young squad deprived of its best two players for the vast majority of it.
Can't help but feel that if we'd have batted a lot quicker on the second day we'd be celebrating a title now.
Still, well done Bears.
I think we should've bowled first on the first day. Hampshire have fucked us over twice in a week - against Lancs last week they only had to survive two sessions with 10 wickets in hand to force a draw, but collapsed pathetically that afternoon losing their last wicket in the penultimate over - McKenzie of all people! That gave Lancs the extra 16 points which was crucial in the end - still think they were lucky to face a weakened Somerset team with one eye on the CB40 Final this Saturday. Glad Hampshire were relegated and lost the T20 final as well!!....not that I'm bitter...
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Sad news about the death of Graham Dilley. Ultimately remembered for supporting Beefy in a 117 run partnership at Headingley in 1981 but as I recall he was an important member of a Pears side that won back to back championships in the mid 1980's.
RIP
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RIP Graham Dilley a great bowler
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RIP Graham Dilley, I loved his bowling action and often replicated it in the back garden.
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Very sad news - RIP Graham Dilley
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Jeetan Patel has signed for the Bears for all of next season which is good news