For fuck's sake. Lose the player most capable of playing the ball through that Darren Bent feeds on. Help the most hated club in the Football League get promoted in the process.
Utterly ridiculous.
I'd much rather have the likes of Bannan in the squad than Pires. Bannan is exactly the sort of footballer we whould be nurturing, not wasting time on has beens like Pires.
For fuck's sake. Lose the player most capable of playing the ball through that Darren Bent feeds on. Help the most hated club in the Football League get promoted in the process.
Utterly ridiculous.
I think Delph returning to full fitness is the reason behind this.
With no more cup games his chances would be limited with Makoun, NRC, Delph, Ash and probably Petrov ahead of him for those middle 3 slots.
I think Delph returning to full fitness is the reason behind this.
With no more cup games his chances would be limited with Makoun, NRC, Delph, Ash and probably Petrov ahead of him for those middle 3 slots.
Clearly, but that's so much less fun then entering into a who can be the most outraged competition.
Should be playing and starting for us not Leeds. He needs PL experience!! For me the most exciting player we have, well alongside MA!!
GH you are priceless.
Proves Houiller is a clueless fucking dick
He will be unavailable for Dingles & Barcodes at home and Everton away.
If he is unlikely to start in those games with the midfielders we have, then it makes sense to send him on loan to get match time and experience.
Proves Houiller is a clueless fucking dickBut he's a sex machine to all the chicks.
I think Delph returning to full fitness is the reason behind this.
With no more cup games his chances would be limited with Makoun, NRC, Delph, Ash and probably Petrov ahead of him for those middle 3 slots.
Clearly, but that's so much less fun then entering into a who can be the most outraged competition.
I bet you that Pires will get further game time this season, as will Bradley. Two players who Bannan has been vastly superior to this season.
I dont know why there are post mortems coming in on Bradley either.It is early days, but i'm struggling to remember a full game debut that bad.
He's hardly played for us. Give him a chance.
I dont know why there are post mortems coming in on Bradley either.
He's hardly played for us. Give him a chance.
I dont know why there are post mortems coming in on Bradley either.It is early days, but i'm struggling to remember a full game debut that bad.
He's hardly played for us. Give him a chance.
Always.I dont know why there are post mortems coming in on Bradley either.It is early days, but i'm struggling to remember a full game debut that bad.
He's hardly played for us. Give him a chance.
Do you also get to the top of the stairs and then can't remember why?
With Bradley how many games has he been fit to start? Maybe 4 of which he has started 1?
That thells it's own story for me
With Bradley how many games has he been fit to start? Maybe 4 of which he has started 1?
That thells it's own story for me
I don't know how fitness equates to making 5 passes to a Man City player, 8 yards away.
It looked like a problem of incompetence, rather than fitness.
Ah, see what you mean.With Bradley how many games has he been fit to start? Maybe 4 of which he has started 1?
That thells it's own story for me
I don't know how fitness equates to making 5 passes to a Man City player, 8 yards away.
It looked like a problem of incompetence, rather than fitness.
I agree
What I meant was that he has been with us since when the end of jan and has only really feature in 1 game namely man city hence he wasn't picked for the other 4. I reckon having seen him in training GH doesn't rate him
Has Barry Banana suddenly morphed into Lionel Messi? It's the only reason I can think of for all the foaming at the mouth on this thread.
He's not a bad player, probably one for next season when Petrov, Pires and possibly Reo-Coker are moved on, he doesn't provide anything that Delph can't, or Makoun and I reckon Bradley is a better player than the Notlob game showed.
I reckon Bradley is a better player than the Notlob game showed.
Another Houllier cock-up. Is he on a bonus for getting us relegated?
Can't say I'm too fussed about this. I don't think he's as good as many on here make out he is. At least not yet anyway.
as I won't miss him being knocked off the ball and giving away possession where it hurts us.
Has Barry Banana suddenly morphed into Lionel Messi? It's the only reason I can think of for all the foaming at the mouth on this thread.
He's not a bad player, probably one for next season when Petrov, Pires and possibly Reo-Coker are moved on, he doesn't provide anything that Delph can't, or Makoun and I reckon Bradley is a better player than the Notlob game showed.
Houllier has obviously been told to cut the wage bill after the annoucement of the losses.?
With Bradley how many games has he been fit to start? Maybe 4 of which he has started 1?
That thells it's own story for me
I don't know how fitness equates to making 5 passes to a Man City player, 8 yards away.
It looked like a problem of incompetence, rather than fitness.
I agree
What I meant was that he has been with us since when the end of jan and has only really feature in 1 game namely man city hence he wasn't picked for the other 4. I reckon having seen him in training GH doesn't rate him
as I won't miss him being knocked off the ball and giving away possession where it hurts us.
Especially when we have players like NRC and Bradley who are far better at giving the ball away.
Should be playing and starting for us not Leeds. He needs PL experience!! For me the most exciting player we have, well alongside MA!!
GH you are priceless.
Fuck me
We have seen glimpses of what BB can do, and if GH thinks the best way to bring him on is by playing in the fizzy pop then that says it all really
Another Houllier cock-up. Is he on a bonus for getting us relegated?
How is it a cock-up when it's only just happened and has had absolutely no effect on anything yet?
This thread is funny. Maybe for his development having Bannan playing an important role in a good promotion seeking side like Leeds is better than being on the bench at a relegation fighting side like us. He'll likely play more, under less stress, and he's under a very good up and coming coach. But it is a lot easier to GH a dick because that seems to be the popular trend amongst many right now.
If Makoun gets injured or suspended again, we've nobody with an eye for a pass that Bannan
I'm glad he is going to be playing instead of been on the bench.
Kyle Walker spent 6 months at QPR and has fit straight in to our side, hopefully the same will happen with Bannan.
Because as has already bren said he has a great future with us.
I reckon Bradley is a better player than the Notlob game showed.
Do you mean the Man City game ?
I'd rather have him coming on as a sub to make something happen than fucking Petrov. Whats Petrov going to do? Pass it backwards to the defence?
I'm glad he is going to be playing instead of been on the bench.
Kyle Walker spent 6 months at QPR and has fit straight in to our side, hopefully the same will happen with Bannan.
Because as has already bren said he has a great future with us.
We might need him this season. We have lots of central midfielders, but not many of them are very good.
I'm glad he is going to be playing instead of been on the bench.
Kyle Walker spent 6 months at QPR and has fit straight in to our side, hopefully the same will happen with Bannan.
Because as has already bren said he has a great future with us.
We might need him this season. We have lots of central midfielders, but not many of them are very good.
It's only a month loan initially isn't it? I'm sure we will have a recall option, plus don't we hardly have any games this month.
I'm glad he is going to be playing instead of been on the bench.
Kyle Walker spent 6 months at QPR and has fit straight in to our side, hopefully the same will happen with Bannan.
Because as has already bren said he has a great future with us.
We might need him this season. We have lots of central midfielders, but not many of them are very good.
It's only a month loan initially isn't it? I'm sure we will have a recall option, plus don't we hardly have any games this month.
We've loaned out a young player on the fringes of the first team squad and yet because some are so determined to batter the manager at every opportunity it's treated as sone sort of catastrophic error of judgement.
We've been on a fairly decent run up to last week and Bannam hardly featured and we now have Delph available who is a similar but more experienced player.
Beat Man City with our only shot, beat Wigan away who lose to almost everyone and beat Blackburn who are shocking away and drew with Fulham and Blackpool. Hardly awe-inspiring stuff.
We've been on a fairly decent run up to last week
Ridiculous!!! says alot to me about whats happening at our club, currently better than Petrov, Bradley and Delph so send him and do horrible Leeds a favour well done FFS!!!!
Oh and Pires
Beat Man City with our only shot, beat Wigan away who lose to almost everyone and beat Blackburn who are shocking away and drew with Fulham and Blackpool. Hardly awe-inspiring stuff.
We've been on a fairly decent run up to last week
And a lot of fans are pissed off at the decision because Bannan is a much better option from the bench than Petrov or Pires.
Beat Man City with our only shot, beat Wigan away who lose to almost everyone and beat Blackburn who are shocking away and drew with Fulham and Blackpool. Hardly awe-inspiring stuff.
We've been on a fairly decent run up to last week
And a lot of fans are pissed off at the decision because Bannan is a much better option from the bench than Petrov or Pires.
Beat Man City with our only shot, beat Wigan away who lose to almost everyone and beat Blackburn who are shocking away and drew with Fulham and Blackpool. Hardly awe-inspiring stuff.
We've been on a fairly decent run up to last week
I'm glad he is going to be playing instead of been on the bench.
Kyle Walker spent 6 months at QPR and has fit straight in to our side, hopefully the same will happen with Bannan.
Because as has already bren said he has a great future with us.
We might need him this season. We have lots of central midfielders, but not many of them are very good.
It's only a month loan initially isn't it? I'm sure we will have a recall option, plus don't we hardly have any games this month.
Wrong, it's until the end of the season, and if we want him back we have to give them a month's notice.
It's says on the OS we have a recall option after 28 days, does anyone know how much notice we have to give to recall him?
Bayern Munich say manager Louis van Gaal will leave at the end of the season, one year before his contract is due to expire, because of "strategic differences". The 59-year-old Dutchman won the German double in his first season at Bayern and reached the Champions League final, but the club has slumped to fifth in the Bundesliga and has been eliminated from the German Cup.Are you posting this on all threads?
He sounds like an ideal replacement for Gerard Du Gaffe.
Our most creative midfielder loaned out to Leeds while that useless, over-the-hill prick Pires is guaranteed a place at least on the bench for no other reason than he's a fellow cheese-eating surrender monkey.
Our most creative midfielder loaned out to Leeds while that useless, over-the-hill prick Pires is guaranteed a place at least on the bench for no other reason than he's a fellow cheese-eating surrender monkey. Fuck me with the rough end of a ragman's trumpet Houlier is fucking clueless! I can see Bannan off in the summer to a team that appreciates his considerable talents while Pires and fucking Petrov quaff the retirement champagne.
Fuck my old boots but my piss is well and truly boiled! >:(
Apologies. i didn't realise originality was a fucking pre-requisite.Our most creative midfielder loaned out to Leeds while that useless, over-the-hill prick Pires is guaranteed a place at least on the bench for no other reason than he's a fellow cheese-eating surrender monkey.
Do you have to use that unoriginal, not even funny the first time phrase?
Apologies. i didn't realise originality was a fucking pre-requisite.Our most creative midfielder loaned out to Leeds while that useless, over-the-hill prick Pires is guaranteed a place at least on the bench for no other reason than he's a fellow cheese-eating surrender monkey.
Do you have to use that unoriginal, not even funny the first time phrase?
"who needs Barry when you've got Barry Bannan
who needs Barry when you've got Barry Bannan
who needs Barry when you've got Barry Bannan
Ooooooohhhhh Barry Bannan
Well that's that song out the window then
I'd rather have him coming on as a sub to make something happen than fucking Petrov. Whats Petrov going to do? Pass it backwards to the defence?
"who needs Barry when you've got Barry Bannan
who needs Barry when you've got Barry Bannan
who needs Barry when you've got Barry Bannan
Ooooooohhhhh Barry Bannan
Well that's that song out the window then
Next season?
Or are you another one who is ironically giving up on Villa because Hotlips gave up in the cup?
We've been on a fairly decent run up to last week
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With respect are you barking mad????
Was that decent run beating blackburn and drawing with Fulham & Blackpool??
last 8 league games:
Wins 2
Draws 4
losses 2
hardly inspiring
Losses
I wish I could give up on Villa
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
The fizzy pop league experience may come in handy next season
We should farm fonz out too and Hogg
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
We signed two centre mid players in the window so we now have more cover.
Saw some Leeds fan on Twitter saying that they have an option to buy him which I'm sure is bollocks.They're bullshitting.
A little suprised to hear the news but won't do him no harm at all.. shame its not Soton , would have liked first option on that Chamberlain player.
Leeds Utd, 'oo are dey?!
Exactly
All the talk about playing in the fizzy pop being just what BB I find a bit bewlidering
knock knock where was Bannan last season???
he's had the season on loan so now its time to man man up
Saw some Leeds fan on Twitter saying that they have an option to buy him which I'm sure is bollocks.They're bullshitting.
Petrov
NRC
Makoun
Bradley
Delph
Herd
Gardner
Johnson (Youth captain has been in a couple of squads)
Clark (if required)
Hogg can be recalled
Downing can play in that centre role too
Pires for the attacking/behind the striker role
Salifou
I think it's safe to say that we've got enough cover at the moment, and we'd be very very unlucky to have another injury crisis again in midfield. [quote/]
Petrov - Legs going
NRC - Not creative
Makoun - Good
Bradley - Can't see it
Delph - Good
Herd - Nope
Gardner - Nope
Johnson (Youth captain has been in a couple of squads) - Nope
Clark (if required) - He'll be needed at left back
Hogg can be recalled - Not creative
Downing - need him where he is
Pires - Too old, too crusty
Salifou - Blecch!
One thing about wee Barry - anyone else wondering exactly where he would fit in best in the 4-2-3-1 formation?
I really rate him, but doubt he has the attacking flair to be behind the striker in Ash's role and his stature may count against him in regards to the 2 DCMs in that formation. He's not a wide player. He's a game lad and will get stuck in, but I can only see him really flourishing with a strong and specialist DCM next to him, which we don't have.
Makoun has had 1 very good game and is being hailed as a masterstroke signing.
Bradley has had 1 very bad game and is being hailed as a flop.
A little suprised to hear the news but won't do him no harm at all.. shame its not Soton , would have liked first option on that Chamberlain player.
I'm hoping this is a cunning way of getting Grayson to villa as head coach by showing him the quality of our youth (...Houllier as DoF obviously).
Makoun has had 1 very good game and is being hailed as a masterstroke signing.
Bradley has had 1 very bad game and is being hailed as a flop.
Don't understand this at all. He's a good player.
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
Then we recall him.
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
Then we recall him.
Which we can't do for a month.
Another Houllier cock-up. Is he on a bonus for getting us relegated?
How is it a cock-up when it's only just happened and has had absolutely no effect on anything yet?
It seems we have differing definitions of cock up. Did you think he was a genius when the team to play at City last week was announced or did you think he had cocked up and defeat was certain? Did you think he had cocked up at Liverpool touching the This Is Anfield sign or did you think that would work out well for him? I think he has cocked up by loaning Bannan because there is less competition for places in a squad that is carrying Petrov, Pires and Bradley.
@Dante Lavelli
Yep - Modric is a good example. However the defensive duties of covering runs and sheperding players away from danger zones is something that comes with experience. At Leeds he'll be amongst their best players, so I'd expect him to be played further forward and not necessarily learn that there. Also Modric is playing in a better side where he has some freedom, plus having Palacious or Huddlestone beside him, which us struggling against relegation do not have.
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
Then we recall him.
Which we can't do for a month.
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
Then we recall him.
Which we can't do for a month.
Well we'd be very unfortunate to lose about 3 midfielders in 28 days.
I like Bannan and think he's a very promising player but I don't think he's quite ready yet so I'm not too fussed about this.
Do I think Bannan is a world beater who Houllier is mad to let out on loan? No.Spot on.
Do I think he's better than some of the players still in the squad, and that we'd be better of keeping him in case of injuries or suspensions? Yes.
Who's to say we won't have another nightmare with the injury list again?
Then we recall him.
Which we can't do for a month.
Well we'd be very unfortunate to lose about 3 midfielders in 28 days.
Pointless keeping a player around on the off chance we'll suffer catastrophic injuries again. If you become paranoid about that you wouldn't loan anybody out and nobody would benefit from it.
The lad needs football and he'll get it and at a decent level for a big club. That's good. Good for him, good for us.
If we need to put somebody in in the meantime, I believe Gary Gardner is ready to start featuring.
A player with at least twice the potential of Bannan in my opinion.
Until then, there's Makoun, Delph, Bradley, Reo Coker, Petrov, Pires, Herd and Gardner to cover 2 positions. I think we'll be alright.
Friendly request: Please stop shitting yourselves over every little thing. It's very difficult to read this forum at the moment.
It's fair to say i'm shitting myself.
We've been in the shit pretty much all season, it's only the depth that's varied.
I've got to sweat over whether we can bulit Wolves Saturday week.
WOLVES! For fuck's sake.
Firstly, I dont think we'll be in one
By the way, I dont mean shitting yourselves or being concerned over our position. That's only natural. I mean making a complete melodramarama over the minutiae.
Firstly, I dont think we'll be in one
eh ? wake up, smell the Horlicks
We're in the thick of it (knee deep), any less than 3 pts vs Wolves and we are up to the armpits
Firstly, I dont think we'll be in one
eh ? wake up, smell the Horlicks
We're in the thick of it (knee deep), any less than 3 pts vs Wolves and we are up to the armpits
By the way, I dont mean shitting yourselves or being concerned over our position. That's only natural. I mean making a complete melodramarama over the minutiae.
Personally I think the debate has been very good, and it's only people moaning about overreaction from one or two posters in amongst the dozens of other decent posts that is spoiling things.
It a tough job wading through it to get to any kind of proper debate. In terms of overreactionH & V is a very broad church
Heheheh. I even look like him a bit.Quite.
That thought has just sent a shiver down my spine. Especially with the luck they seem to be having this season ..........It's fair to say i'm shitting myself.
We've been in the shit pretty much all season, it's only the depth that's varied.
I've got to sweat over whether we can bulit Wolves Saturday week.
WOLVES! For fuck's sake.
Me too.I've got a bad feeling about us and have done for ages and would have taken 17th weeks ago.I'm now having nightmares that we finish on the same points on Blues but go down on goal difference