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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Fergal on March 02, 2011, 09:35:57 PM
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Well? What do you think?
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Manchester's colder.
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This, we were 3 games away, Reading next round at home. We arn't going down so why not go for it!!!! He's a twat.
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Manchester. At least with Moscow we were chasing a bigger prize going for 4th, but this?! We have 1 game in 2 weeks, so why the need to rest players. It is an insult to the players, the FA Cup, the club and the fans.
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Manchester. I could see the reasoning behind Moscow, tonight was a disgrace.
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GH if you read this let me know why you did this please.
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I have to say, I think tonight was much worse.
MON had the excuse he was going for the CL places. Houllier doesn't. We've hardly had a tough run of fixtures of late.
Tonight was disgraceful, I am afraid, and the absolute worst thing about it is that all that general unity, the nascent sense of togetherness and spirit we've developed over the last few weeks has now been well and truly pissed up the wall.
Sometimes, he's his own worst enemy.
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We dropped out of uefa in Moscow because we wanted champions league.
We dropped out of FA cup so we don't get relegated? With Reading up next words really really fail me
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I have to say, I think tonight was much worse.
MON had the excuse he was going for the CL places. Houllier doesn't. We've hardly had a tough run of fixtures of late.
Tonight was disgraceful, I am afraid, and the absolute worst thing about it is that all that general unity, the nascent sense of togetherness and spirit we've developed over the last few weeks has now been well and truly pissed up the wall.
Sometimes, he's his own worst enemy.
If he really thinks we will struggle to pick up another 9or 10 points by the end of the season then fair enough. In which case we really are fucked.
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what a Fool, can't believe it, ranks alongside O'Leary as possibley our worse manager recently
I want to hear his ramblings as to how he thought it was a good idea, I'm sick of him, i was looking forward to tonight after Saturday what a cont
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I said Manchester, but then I wasnt in Moscow!!!!!!
I think the bigger question is what was a worse decision. I was 100% against Moscow decision, but I could understand where MON was coming from + he had quite a bit of credit in the bank at that stage in that we were performing way above expectations.
This decision makes no sense....we didnt play last weekend, we havent had many games since xmas, we dont have a Euro campaign and now we have f*** all games in March.
No "big club" would stand for this and neither should we.
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I'm just glad I didn't go as I would have if this had been a weekend game.
After banking some credit with me, Houllier has now lost some of that credit for running up the white flag. As the title of the thread suggests, he's not the first manager to do so.
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Obviously, when GH said we'll win things ,the part where he said " but not this seasons F.A. Cup because in going throw in the towel v Man City with a gutless team selection" was edited out.
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I didn't agree with either but this is worse. I don't think i've ever seen us just give up on a match before it even started we might as well just given Man City a bye. I've just about had it with football there really is no point anymore.
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You could see the logic behind Moscow.
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I said Moscow but would like to change my mind as we could have easily have gotten to the semi final with a bit lof luck tonight and a rare home QF, bugger off GH.
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I imagine his post match speech will make Col Gaddafi look credible.
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Manchester. I could see the reasoning behind Moscow, tonight was a disgrace.
This
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Whats he talking about HE PICKED THE WRONG TEAM THE IDIOT!!!!
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Yes just he has just been on - deluded. Cuckoo
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Completely different situations:
- Moscow shouldn't have been on the agenda: if MON had selected the right teams to play in the group matches we would not have been even playing in Moscow. we fucked up by not getting our tournament strategy right.
- In Manc tonight, we were on a psychological roll, Citeh were struggling with injuries and the FAC would hav egiven us confidence to fight the good fight in the league. For whatever reason, Hou missed the chance to build by 'resting' key players .... WHY?
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Southgate speaks sense.
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Whatever you think of MON and Moscow, I could understand the reasoning - at the time we were challenging for a Champions League spot, had only drawn at home, and had a very small squad.
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Manchester. What MON did in Moscow made a bit of sense, even if i did'nt agree totally with it. Tonight was just crazy.
Oh and Gary McCallister must be the most passionless No.2 i've ever seen down VP.
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Moscow. It was a terrible decision. Tonight the kids did well, second half they showed some heart but were beaten by a much better side, and I have to say even our first 11 are no match for them. We beat them with a very hard fought backs to the wall 1-0 at Villa park, but we rode our luck big style. All momentum of the season was lost in Moscow, this season is a complete transition season. Do this next season and it is a pisser, but this season is not the one to get my knickers in a twist about a game I expected to lose with a full side out. As GH just said, Ash or Downing ain't gonna change the outcome.
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he said it was about even?
What the fuck
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All momentum of the season was lost in Moscow, this season is a complete transition season.
In retrospect, obviously Moscow didn't work out, but looking at it from the time the decision was made, we had 3 games in a week in a very busy season, and we were firmly in the running for 4th and didn't want to drop points. It was disappointing (I can't imagine how pissed people must have been to arrive in Moscow to see the reserves), but at the time, there could have been an argument for it. Obviously, looking back, it was a missed chance with no upside.
Tonight, however, we're in the middle of nowhere in the league, we aren't going to go down or finish particularly high, the league season has pretty much been written off. As you say, it's a transitional season, so why the hell surrender in a cup, when there's nothing to play for in the league?
he said it was about even?
What the fuck
He's either a moron, or he thinks we are. Now that I think about it, probably both.
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Tonight. There was some logic behind Moscow.
Tonight we were on a decent run, were playing a side who didn't exactly impress at home to Fulham at the weekend while we were strolling the second half against Blackburn. Reading at home in the QF awaited the winners. We have probably the easiest remainder of the season of anyone in the league. Our nearest and dearest lifted a trophy a few days ago. We waved the white flag and played a bizarre system with numerous players out of position and/or making a debut/rare start. A fucking disgrace.
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We only have TWO other games in the whole of March.
Why were we having to rest players?
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Moscow. It was a terrible decision. Tonight the kids did well, second half they showed some heart but were beaten by a much better side, and I have to say even our first 11 are no match for them. We beat them with a very hard fought backs to the wall 1-0 at Villa park, but we rode our luck big style. All momentum of the season was lost in Moscow, this season is a complete transition season. Do this next season and it is a pisser, but this season is not the one to get my knickers in a twist about a game I expected to lose with a full side out. As GH just said, Ash or Downing ain't gonna change the outcome.
As I asked in the match thread, City only drew at home to Fulham at the weekend, why should we be unable to at least match what fucking Fulham can do?
And how about Ash AND Downing? And Walker? Or anyone else that someone who wanted to win this tie would have picked?
How about deciding it was going well and thinking, I know, i'll wait until 70 mins or we're 3-0 down before I try and change what quite blatantly isn't working. I can only remember Hart having to make 2 saves in the whole game.
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I didn't agree with the Moscow decision. However, we were in with a chance of fourth place. While I don't subscribe to the theory that finishing fourth is better than winning a trophy, I do believe that finishing fourth (with the associated cash windfall) would've boosted our chances of winning a trophy or a number of trophies in the short to medium term future. I believe we could've put out a strong team there and still beaten Stoke the following week-end. However, I understand the decision. It was only the last-32 of the competition anyway... we were hardly certainties top lift the trophy if we'd won.
Tonight though... we were on our best form under the current manager. We play a team we have just beaten. whose manager is arguably under more pressure than Houllier. A team with a reputation for bottling it, whose fans would've been quick to get restless had we put up a decent fight. Victory would've given us a home tie against a Second Division team, in the Quarter-Final of a competition many Villa fans want to win more than any other. Manchester is only up the road (at least compared to Manchester). There is no chance of jet-lag on a coach...
...and we gave up. Before a ball had been kicked.
Having finally got a majority of Villa fans onside... Gerard has now potentially lost them forever. I am sick of defending him now. Somebody else can have a go. Any takers?
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Manchester one hurts more today becuase its fresh in the memories. Moscow thousands of miles away thousands of pounds and a european competition. At least there was some "senior" faces in tonight, we just surrendered..
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The twat has the gall to blame the players! I think he may have mental issues.
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I didn't agree with the Moscow decision. However, we were in with a chance of fourth place. While I don't subscribe to the theory that finishing fourth is better than winning a trophy, I do believe that finishing fourth (with the associated cash windfall) would've boosted our chances of winning a trophy or a number of trophies in the short to medium term future. I believe we could've put out a strong team there and still beaten Stoke the following week-end. However, I understand the decision. It was only the last-32 of the competition anyway... we were hardly certainties top lift the trophy if we'd won.
Tonight though... we were on our best form under the current manager. We play a team we have just beaten. whose manager is arguably under more pressure than Houllier. A team with a reputation for bottling it, whose fans would've been quick to get restless had we put up a decent fight. Victory would've given us a home tie against a Second Division team, in the Quarter-Final of a competition many Villa fans want to win more than any other. Manchester is only up the road (at least compared to Manchester). There is no chance of jet-lag on a coach...
...and we gave up. Before a ball had been kicked.
Having finally got a majority of Villa fans onside... Gerard has now potentially lost them forever. I am sick of defending him now. Somebody else can have a go. Any takers?
He will never get me on his side again... FUCK off....
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Definitely tonight. I was in Moscow, but not there tonight. I hated O'Neill for his team selection over there, but we were still a long way from winning the trophy and had a decent shot at fourth at the time. Tonight, we should have fielded the stongest eleven possible, with a real chance of another Wembley appearance (or two!). Houllier has shot himself in the foot after tonights selection. He had started to win a few of the doubters over, but has now lost any credibility he had.
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We only have TWO other games in the whole of March.
Why were we having to rest players?
Exactly:
Looking at fixtures we have two games in the next 17 days and then another 2 weeks off.
HARDLY GOING TO KNACKER THEM OUT IS IT GH!!!!!
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Manchester, as others have said, at least Moscow had logic. Having said that, Moscow is further away and more expensive to get to than Manchester. If I'd travelled to Russia I'm not so sure I'd agree.
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Have we as a club in our history ever paid this competition such a disservice? I'm struggling to think of any previous season where we have effectively surrendered in this way before kicking a ball in the FA Cup. We have most probably played a weakened team against lower division opposition in the past, and might have lived to regret it had we been knocked out; but tonight in a game where we had to be at our best to go through we have given Citeh a bye. If tonight wasn't important, then what is? Total lack of integrity.
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Moscow was far worse for the hardy souls that travelled (I didn't). That cost four figures and they (Moscow) were not as good as Man City. It also took a very good season to get there in the first place. That said tonight was an mistake aswell. We played the first team last time at Eastlands and they were worse. This time GH used the FA Cup to rest certain players and give others their chance. This was not the game to do that and to do it that much.
We would have probably lost tonight if we did start with the first 11 that played against Blackburn last weekend, and that is the bigger issue for me. Right now we cannot compete with the top 5-6 sides because the squad just does not have 11 players collectively that good. GH is changing alot of things and I believe it is for the next 10 years not the next game. And while that next game always feel the most important I feel that GH and Randy are planning a blueprint to compete in the years to come.
Tonight it was a mistake. We lost. It was very unlikely that we would win with that line up. But all this talk of 'fuck, bollocks, sack im', worst thing ever, blues won a cup, shit, I hate him (hate???), DOL II' and so on just seems a little over the top for me. I am probably in a minority of one but I do like what GH is trying to do, what he is trying to change. The starting 11 was a mistake yes, but the end of the world, no.
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Moscow was far worse for the hardy souls that travelled (I didn't). That cost four figures and they (Moscow) were not as good as Man City. It also took a very good season to get there in the first place. That said tonight was an mistake aswell. We played the first team last time at Eastlands and they were worse. This time Gh used the FA Cup to rest certain players and give others their chance. This was not the game to do that and to do it that much.
We would have probably lost tonight if we did start with the first 11 that played against Blackburn last weekend, and that is the bigger issue for me. Right now we cannot compete with the top 5-6 sides because the squad just does not have 11 players collectively that good. GH is changing alot of things and I believe it is for the next 10 years not the next game. And while that next game always feel the most important I feel that GH and Randy are planning a blueprint to compete in the years to come.
Tonight it was a mistake. We lost. It was very unlikely that we would win with that line up. But all this talk of 'fuck, bollocks, sack im', worst thing ever, blues won a cup, shit, I hate him (hate???), DOL II' and so on just seems a little over the top for me. I am probably in a minority of one but I do think like what GH is trying to do, what he is trying to change. The starting 11 was a mistake yes, but the end of the world, no.
No but it is a true sign of a manager that gives up without a fight. Not the sort of manager who is likely to "win" trophies. I don't think any right minded Villa (or proper football fan) can defend the fact that we lost this FA Cup 5th Round match because the manager decided to pick such an unsuitable team AND formation.
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Moscow was far worse for the hardy souls that travelled (I didn't). That cost four figures and they (Moscow) were not as good as Man City. It also took a very good season to get there in the first place. That said tonight was an mistake aswell. We played the first team last time at Eastlands and they were worse. This time Gh used the FA Cup to rest certain players and give others their chance. This was not the game to do that and to do it that much.
We would have probably lost tonight if we did start with the first 11 that played against Blackburn last weekend, and that is the bigger issue for me. Right now we cannot compete with the top 5-6 sides because the squad just does not have 11 players collectively that good. GH is changing alot of things and I believe it is for the next 10 years not the next game. And while that next game always feel the most important I feel that GH and Randy are planning a blueprint to compete in the years to come.
Tonight it was a mistake. We lost. It was very unlikely that we would win with that line up. But all this talk of 'fuck, bollocks, sack im', worst thing ever, blues won a cup, shit, I hate him (hate???), DOL II' and so on just seems a little over the top for me. I am probably in a minority of one but I do think like what GH is trying to do, what he is trying to change. The starting 11 was a mistake yes, but the end of the world, no.
No but it is a true sign of a manager that gives up without a fight. Not the sort of manager who is likely to "win" trophies. I don't think any right minded Villa (or proper football fan) can defend the fact that we lost this FA Cup 5th Round match because the manager decided to pick such an unsuitable team AND formation.
I wasnt defending it, clearly, if you read what I said. Are you saying I am not a Villa fan?
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He was just starting to win the fans over too. Back to square one after tonight I feel. Should have at least started one of Young and Downing. Bradley was dreadful, kept passing it to nobody or direct to a City player and don't get me started on Petrov and Heskey. What a waste.
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As someone who went to both Moscow and Manchester tonight I would tonight was utter disgrace. I fell out with O'Neill after Moscow well I want this man to be out of our club. Houllier you are an f on disgrace. I will hate you forever for not competing in the FA cup for Aston Villa.
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I didn't agree with Moscow but I did understand - we had played a strong XI at VP and failed to win. I think if we had won that 2 0 or 3 0 O'Neill would have taken a team strong enough to hold the lead. The other thing about Moscow is that the next round was Kiev - two games in 8 days involving a 3000 mile trip over a home fixture against Spurs. With hindsight he hadn't realised the psychological damage his capitulation would cause us that season and that was a failing.
BUT Tonight the next round was Reading at home in a week and a half after a taxing trip up the M6. No comparison. Tonight we could have chucked 3 points away against Bolton and had plenty of chances - Wolves, West Ham, etc to stay up. Most open FA Cup in years and he didn't want it.
He's dead to me.
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Moscow was far worse for the hardy souls that travelled (I didn't). That cost four figures and they (Moscow) were not as good as Man City. It also took a very good season to get there in the first place. That said tonight was an mistake aswell. We played the first team last time at Eastlands and they were worse. This time Gh used the FA Cup to rest certain players and give others their chance. This was not the game to do that and to do it that much.
We would have probably lost tonight if we did start with the first 11 that played against Blackburn last weekend, and that is the bigger issue for me. Right now we cannot compete with the top 5-6 sides because the squad just does not have 11 players collectively that good. GH is changing alot of things and I believe it is for the next 10 years not the next game. And while that next game always feel the most important I feel that GH and Randy are planning a blueprint to compete in the years to come.
Tonight it was a mistake. We lost. It was very unlikely that we would win with that line up. But all this talk of 'fuck, bollocks, sack im', worst thing ever, blues won a cup, shit, I hate him (hate???), DOL II' and so on just seems a little over the top for me. I am probably in a minority of one but I do think like what GH is trying to do, what he is trying to change. The starting 11 was a mistake yes, but the end of the world, no.
No but it is a true sign of a manager that gives up without a fight. Not the sort of manager who is likely to "win" trophies. I don't think any right minded Villa (or proper football fan) can defend the fact that we lost this FA Cup 5th Round match because the manager decided to pick such an unsuitable team AND formation.
I wasnt defending it, clearly, if you read what I said. Are you saying I am not a Villa fan?
I am not for one minute saying you are not a Villa fan :)
But I dont expect a manager to makes these kind of mistakes - come on tonight wasn't just a little mistake it was a major cock up - can he be trusted to not do it again? My little girl would have picked a more suitable team. The TV and Radio were puzzled as to why he picked such a crap team.
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I am puzzled by the team selection too. I just feel that the bigger picture is that alot needs to change player wise, scouting wise and so on. I have no idea what GH was thinking when he picked the team tonight. I wish he had picked a better started 11, but I fear they would have lost tonight aswell. We need alot of changes and many are hopefully being implemented. Is GH is the man to take us forward? I think he might be. As I said, tonight, I am in the minority.
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There is no such thing as bigger picture in sport. You have to compete in every event if you don't you die. Aston Villa FC died a little tonight.
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Manchester's colder.
Oh no it's not. Manchester was damn cold tonight, but it was at least +12 degrees warmer than Moscow.
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There is no such thing as bigger picture in sport. You have to compete in every event if you don't you die. Aston Villa FC died a little tonight.
Yes there is, I do not agree.
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i'm not a mon fan and i've very much stuck behind gh since his arrival, but tonight was far worse. imagine the disappointment as i heard the lineup standing outside manchester piccadilly waiting for the dad and brother to arrive, knowing that we'd put our reserve side out against a team that included the likes of balotelli, silva, zabaleta and kolarov. 'game over', we may as well go home.
had we have won this, our name was on the cup. beat reading at the same stage as last year, get blues in the semi final and avenge the defeat; putting them back in their place in the process and then man united in the final to avenge last year's cup final defeat and repeat the '57 triumph. it was all setting itself up perfectly. and what did we have to lose? these little primadonnas had just been on holiday and now get a two week break after saturday to rest up. three games in a week a little too taxing for them, was it? funny, man city's players have managed the same in six days..
nothing else to play for this season, we'll stay up, but will have to watch those grubby little part timers at wembley again whilst we wait another year to see if we can get our hands on something tangible. we've just had two years of pretty good runs in the cup and have been fortunate in seeing those around us go out early. this was our time to win something. man city can now be added to the elite group and spurs aren't far off. i get the feeling we've had our chance and fear we may have missed out now for a good while. we don't seem capable of receiving the kind of good fortune afforded to sha during their cup run so certainly can't expect to go to citeh with a reserve side and win. but then clearly, that wasn't the intention.
on o'neill, he had the CL places to think about at a time when we were flying high in the league and in fact in his defence, he'd played a lot of the kids since the start of the competition. in my eyes, that was always something that was way overplayed by the media and their willingness to shout 'disrespect' as soon as they saw the team rather than having a look to see who we'd put out previously. i couldn't stand o'neill for two years and could (and have..) write an essay on all of his faults but i wouldn't use that as a stick to beat him with, personally.
as i say, houllier's very much had my backing because i think he deserves a chance and that's despite constantly getting the formation wrong and doing a mon with his team selection and substitutes; the latter being something he seemed to have a grip on when he first came in with tactical astuteness shining through against blackburn (lc) and wolves. now though, all i can see him being good for is signing very good players for relatively little money and helping input his excellent knowledge into our scouting network. do we give him time and see if he can make it work or do we part company and say he's too limited a manager post heart op for where we want to be? certainly don't envy lerner..
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Hmm, one thing that hasn't been mentioned is that in Moscow it really was a youth/reserve side (Albrighton and Bannon's full debuts I think? Fonz and Salifou had barely played before aswell). Tonight, Herd aside, the young lads have all played a fair few games in the Premier League (not Bradley obviously but he comes with a decent international pedigree). So when GHou went on about the quality of these players in the interview afterwards I do believe him. It's just he did overdo it, and I wonder did he really think that side could get a result tonight.
I think MON was more blatant about Moscow. Both sting though.
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I only found out the result when I woke up due to the time difference with the UK. You have probably all had a shite night’s sleep and I have had a shit morning at work mulling on this – not sure which is worse. On balance I would probably say your situation, since I am not surrounded by it – TV here are thankfully only showing the goals from the Arsenal game on repeat.
I think Manchester was probably worse for the reasons outlined by several posters above – we were one game from a home draw in the quarters against Reading for God’s sake. As Astonvillan points out, we did actually put out a proper team in the home game v CSKA and that failure to secure a result meant MON thought the freezing plastic pitch in Moscow would be too risky for us in the light of our league position. If you went to Moscow you would definitely disagree with me and I completely accept that.
These instances have made me think that it would be great if clubs had to announce their team selections in advance like rugby teams do several days before internationals. You can then make up your mind how seriously the club are taking the match and buy your tickets and plan your travel accordingly. I'm dreaming of course…
I still support GH but that was a tactical and PR disaster last night. Hope you are all looking forward to the meal for fans at the end of the season to explain this decision…….
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Last night was worse by a country mile. To not even give it a go is baffling.
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The morning after the night before and it's still a disgrace.
His post match interviews were comical.
This man will never win us anything.
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I defended MON's decision to play that weakened team in Moscow. We were up against it following the 1st leg and were facing a game in near artic conditions on a plastic pitch half the world away. My argument was and is that had he played Gabby and/or Ash and they had got injured, effectively ending what were at the time genuine CL aspirations, he'd have got as much stick for that as he did for fielding the kids.
In order to be consistent I will also defend Gezza's right to pick the team he chooses, but I have a harder time agreeing with it. I think the following were the differences between the two:-
1. I think our best available 11 WOULD have got a good result.
2. Less likeliness for fatigue/injuries.
3. We were looking likely to get in the CL, but we're not looking likely to get relegated.
I personally think Moscow is where some fans started falling out of love with MON, who up to that point had hardly put a foot wrong. Now with Gezza we've had more reason to doubt him than back him thus far, so with this around his neck we now need a VERY strong end to the season if he wants to keep the fans of his back.
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Well I only put Moscow for fans who actually travelled there . Manchester because we wasnt far away from a semi-final and we are not going down.
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Both decision were poor as were the other games we played weak teams deliberately and didn't do enough.
Moscow we had a 'full' squad to work from tonight, with Warnock and others disaffected, Bent cup tied, several injuries we didn't and have not all season, its been a time of one disruption after another.
Plainly the squad is not good enough, the kids that seem to be the future plan are not yet or maybe never will be. I see time and again fans calling for Bannan, for Bailey to be playing, for Herd, Fonz and Delph, well they played last night and didn't meet up. Only Clarke who now seems an ever present contributed well.
But then he side was a mishmash, with players out of position a completely new defence including two 'kids' out of position against the quality City have, totally daft and its hard to blame players in that situation.
The squad depth is obviously still very poor as it was against Moscow, its been obvious for some time the first 13 are ok, the rest are not so all Houllier is doing is treading water papering over the cracks.
He sacrificed the FA Cup last night just as Mon sacrificed all those months of work to gain a European place and I still say both were acting to orders, to the clubs priority and plans nothing more.
He like Mon will take the blame and regret it and hopefully unlike Mon he won't suffer. Moscow was a good decision if the subsequent results gained the right end, same goes for Ged, if we don't walk away with a top 10 finish, his decision could be catastrophic.
We need 4 good results, 4 convincing performances nothing less will do.
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NeillOMartin
How should Gerard appease the fans? Buy them a slap up meal and stick it on the wage bill. Oh and tell them NEVER TO QUESTION HIM AGAIN
From Twitter.
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Considering how few games we have over the next month, last night is a real hard slap in the face to all fans and the traditions and pride of the club.
We should not be surrendering
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We have made ourselves look "small time".
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I would have liked to have won last night but it wasn't to be ok we played an under strength side but they are all squad players and should be able to step up to the plate when needed there is no need to have a dig at GH because i and most others can see what he is trying to do.
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I would have liked to have won last night but it wasn't to be ok we played an under strength side but they are all squad players and should be able to step up to the plate when needed there is no need to have a dig at GH because i and most others can see what he is trying to do.
Could you enlighten us with his plans for our Villa. Winnning a cup is not one of them. For what happened last night we are all entitled to have a dig a him.
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I would have liked to have won last night but it wasn't to be ok we played an under strength side but they are all squad players and should be able to step up to the plate when needed there is no need to have a dig at GH because i and most others can see what he is trying to do.
1. Would it be possible for you to use some punctuation? I needed my inhaler before I got to the end of your post.
2. Obviously I can only go by what I read on here, other forums and by speaking to other Villa fans, but MOST fans seem to be utterly perplexed by the team selection last night.
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If we win the Cup next season that'll be 55 years since a Villa captain had the pleasure of lifting the trophy. Who knows what would have happened had we been at full-strength last night? All I know is that fifty-five years is far too long.