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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: eastie on February 28, 2011, 01:33:53 PM
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The fa have confirmed no action will be taken against Rooney after his off the ball elbowing incident at Wigan.
Smacks of double standards as it was quite clearly violent conduct and should have been a 3 game ban.
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You can thank FIFA and their ridiculous rule that the onfield referee's decision is final - even when he's clearly ballsed it up!
You can also thank Clattenburg and his frankly bizarre decision to award a freekick for something he clearly hadn't seen, thereby preventing the FA from doing anything about it retrospectively.
There is so much about the game of football that makes no sense!!
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The footballing authorities are as straight as Spaghetti junction.
Is anybody really suprised any more?
Man Utd in particular get away with fucking murder.
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That's a disgrace.
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If I was a Wigan player I would have just elbowed a Man U player in the face in that case - on the basis that offence is just a free kick these days.
Another referee in Ferguson's inner cicle.
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You can thank FIFA and their ridiculous rule that the onfield referee's decision is final - even when he's clearly ballsed it up!
You can also thank Clattenburg and his frankly bizarre decision to award a freekick for something he clearly hadn't seen, thereby preventing the FA from doing anything about it retrospectively.
There is so much about the game of football that makes no sense!!
So this is a case of; the referee saw it, therefore it didn't happen !!
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Amazingly Clattenburg said he dealt with the foul correctly,so the F.A cant do anything. So he should be taken off the Premier league list for a while and made to ref in the Blue Square for a while.
Isnt he our ref on Wed?
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If clattenburg has said that then he should be stripped of all refereeing at this level- a deliberate forearm smash in the head off the ball =red card , not a free kick and clattenburg is a joke if he thinks otherwise.
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Bloody disgrace,if it was any team outside the top 4 it would of been a ban!
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I've not seen this elbow, however I agree that he should be banned for no other reason than because I think he's a ******.
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Common sense, how are Manu expected to win everything if they have to stick to the same rules as everyone else?
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Common sense, how are Manu expected to win everything if they have to stick to the same rules as everyone else?
Exactly
And James McCarthy should receive a lenghty ban for headbutting Rooney's elbow on Saturday
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manure in fa / refereeing favouritism shocker...
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An appalling but entirely expected decision. Surprised I am not!
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I must admit I am surprised supertom, it was quite blatant and clear to see and I find it amazing that he can do such a thing and get off scot free, it leaves a nasty taste in the mouth .
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I'd be talking to a lawyer about it if I was Mccarthy, outside the ground that'd be assault, that it was from beihnd and completely unprovoked is just cowardly, I hope someone kicks him up in the air for it next time they play.
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This is just so typical, what lengths does a top 4 player have to go to to get a ban these days...shoot someone?
Even then?
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This is just so typical, what lengths does a top 4 player have to go to to get a ban these days...shoot someone?
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Sounds as though Ashley Cole has been in training.
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So very sad how the people running the game see things when you can elbow someone like that and get off scot free and yet tweet about a referee and they are throw the book at you- sad crazy world.
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This is just so typical, what lengths does a top 4 player have to go to to get a ban these days...shoot someone?
Even then?
Very good, Bren. I thought Fergie was brilliant yesterday with his claims of how the media would go out of their way to attack Rooney. Killed the story instantly. The fact is Rooney should have been banned but you just knew it was never going to happen. Different rules.
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The offence was clearly intentional and although C'burg could not have seen it (see the MOTD replays) the FA should be demonstrating their equanimity - they have missed an opportunity to demonstrate that the game has standards and morals. A sad day, frankly.
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He escaped a ban because Ferguson said 'It was nothing.'
He dictates the rules and everybody goes along with it, he's already made the BBC his bitch.
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He escaped a ban because Ferguson said 'It was nothing.'
He dictates the rules and everybody goes along with it, he's already made the BBC his bitch.
Yet he still does not speak to the BBC still and is allowed to get away with it
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He escaped a ban because Ferguson said 'It was nothing.'
He dictates the rules and everybody goes along with it, he's already made the BBC his bitch.
Yet he still does not speak to the BBC still and is allowed to get away with it
That's what I meant by them being his bitch.
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He escaped a ban because Ferguson said 'It was nothing.'
He dictates the rules and everybody goes along with it, he's already made the BBC his bitch.
Yet he still does not speak to the BBC still and is allowed to get away with it
That's what I meant by them being his bitch.
Yeah I agree mate 100%
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Ronney escapes ban... now there's a shock!
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John Hartson wasn't sitting on the fence regarding the incident on MOTD 2 last night. Fair play to him for speaking his mind. Might not be a good career move by him though.
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I can just imagine this scenario (names changed as not to provoke litigation)
FA Official-'Mr Rednose this is the FA here- you may have seen one of your players on the TV commit unprovoked assault on a member of the opposing side- we may have to commence disciplinary action against Mr Shrek, your player'.
Mr Rednose- ' Up to you of course, however I would predict that Mr Shrek will be carrying a slight niggling injury around the time that the National team plays its remaining qualification games if you proceed with such action.
FA Official-' Completely understood Mr Rednose we will say that no further action can be taken, sorry to have troubled you.'
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I've not seen this elbow, however I agree that he should be banned for no other reason than because I think he's a c***.
here it is, it gets worse every time i see it
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I've not seen this elbow, however I agree that he should be banned for no other reason than because I think he's a c***.
here it is, it gets worse every time i see it
That is nasty, I hadn't seen it from the one angle... horrible little oik isn't he.
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Clattenburg is a shit ref.
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Who is the referees boss nowadays? Let's see this clown clattenburg kicked off top level games, god help us if he's still in charge of our cup game on weds , de Jong, viera and co will have a field day- the standard of officials is so poor this season.
How could the linesman not see the arsenal player 2 yards behind bowyer yesterday , really there are few refs I enjoy seeing in charge of our games, I notice dowd hasn't been given a game at our place for over a year now, we will not forget.
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Who is the referees boss nowadays? Let's see this clown clattenburg kicked off top level games, god help us if he's still in charge of our cup game on weds , de Jong, viera and co will have a field day- the standard of officials is so poor this season.
Mike Riley, who has already said that Clattenburg was correct, so no chance of a ban.
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Who is the referees boss nowadays? Let's see this clown clattenburg kicked off top level games, god help us if he's still in charge of our cup game on weds , de Jong, viera and co will have a field day- the standard of officials is so poor this season.
Mike Riley, who has already said that Clattenburg was correct, so no chance of a ban.
Mike Riley the referee's boss? God help us all.
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Clattenburg should be disciplined. Either he didn't see it, so why give a free kick? And Rooney should be punished. Or he did see it and didn't deal with it appropriately.
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If the referees boss and clattenburg agree that a deliberate unprovoked elbow in the head off the ball is not even worth a booking then what hope is there? Sack both of the incompetent twats- Riley was one of the all time shittest refs anyway.
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He actually run's towards the player to do it as well.
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Well there's a fucking surprise.
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If the referees boss and clattenburg agree that a deliberate unprovoked elbow in the head off the ball is not even worth a booking then what hope is there? Sack both of the incompetent twats- Riley was one of the all time shittest refs anyway.
This is clearly NOT TRUE. The Wigan player has no business trying to block Shrek off - he leans in to him raising his shoulder before Shrek fends him off with the forearm smash. Clattenberg has seen it and clearly decides it's six of one and half dozen of the other. That's all folks. Better refereeing than the DJ Campbell sending off when Stearman should have at the very least been booked if Campbellwas getting a red. In the terms of the game a last warning for both players was enough.
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John Hartson wasn't sitting on the fence regarding the incident on MOTD 2 last night. Fair play to him for speaking his mind. Might not be a good career move by him though.
As right as he was, it was pretty laughable that he of all people was criticising thuggish behaviour
Rooney should have been reported to the police for that. Forget it being on a football pitch, if he's as far from the ball as he was there, it should be dealt with as any other deliberate attack. He should be taken to court for that.
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This is clearly NOT TRUE. The Wigan player has no business trying to block Shrek off - he leans in to him raising his shoulder before Shrek fends him off with the forearm smash. Clattenberg has seen it and clearly decides it's six of one and half dozen of the other. That's all folks. Better refereeing than the DJ Campbell sending off when Stearman should have at the very least been booked if Campbellwas getting a red. In the terms of the game a last warning for both players was enough.
I take it you are kidding? Have you seen it?
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I have just watched it 3-4 times. In slow mo it looks a lot less damming I have to say, it looks like he sees him late and raises the arm to brush the challenge to me. I know it is probably much more pre medatated and thuggish as it is wazza (couldn't resist) but it doesn't look as criminal as many are making out. Barton's full on punch to Pederson was much worse earlier this season, and sporting wise Ferguson patting Koscielny on the head is more reprimandable as it is pretty unsporting - amazed he did not get up and paste the little shit into next week.
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The part of this disgraceful episode which really wants me to puke is the way Clattenberg puts his arm around Rooney. You can bet your mortgage that he called him Wayne.
There is a lot to be said for all the clubs to voting on the continued Premiership status of officials. The "top" referees constantly seek the approval of the top four clubs and top four players. It would soon wipe the smile off Clattenberg's face if he thought Wigan were going to black ball him.
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I wonder what would happen to McCarthy if he went on Facebook and called Clattenberg a c**t. Which he is by the way.
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Mal, how you can say 6 of one and half a dozen of the other is incredible - of course Rooney is the guilty party- and as for dj Campbell it was the most clear sending off you could imagine , raise your hands to a players face and you are off - get real mal!
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Amazingly Clattenburg said he dealt with the foul correctly,so the F.A cant do anything. So he should be taken off the Premier league list for a while and made to ref in the Blue Square for a while.
Isnt he our ref on Wed?
May work for us, since he clearly favours man ure he might want to fuck city over
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The FA again brings the game into disrepute- shocking
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I thought Fergie was brilliant yesterday with his claims of how the media would go out of their way to attack Rooney. Killed the story instantly. The fact is Rooney should have been banned but you just knew it was never going to happen. Different rules.
Spot on. And in this instance, I suspect that any decision that Clattenburg had to make after the incident was taken away from him by people higher up the food chain.
The part of this disgraceful episode which really wants me to puke is the way Clattenberg puts his arm around Rooney. You can bet your mortgage that he called him Wayne.
There is a lot to be said for all the clubs to voting on the continued Premiership status of officials. The "top" referees constantly seek the approval of the top four clubs and top four players. It would soon wipe the smile off Clattenberg's face if he thought Wigan were going to black ball him.
Before the Carling Cup Final, after the coin-toss, Stephen Carr shook the hands of the officials in a gentlemanly manner. I know, I was surprised too). Robert Van Persie, on the other hand, practically high-fived them. OK, he didn't, but he did that modern matey version of the handshake where your hand and fingers point upwards and lock thumbs rather than grip each other's fingers. I was amazed they didn't go the whole hog and lean in for a chest bump.
The "top referees" officiate over the "big sides" so much, maybe we have to accept their over-familiarity, intended or otherwise.
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Whelan at Wigan has said that Man Utd basically run the FA and the bigwigs there are terrified of them.
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I wouldn't mind Golloway appealling against the sending off of DJ Campbell now. He can state the Rooney case as precedent that the refs decision was wrong and he didn't take the appropriate action on the pitch as set down by a senior ref and his chief.
4 or 5 years ago the ref saw the Ben Thatcher assault on Mendes and his decision was over ridden by the FA. I will admit that that was alot worse due to the momentum of Thatcher but if McCarthy had turned his face at the wrong time it could easily have led to a fractured cheek or eye socket.
TBH the refs have been scared of offending Alex since the one gave a penalty against Manure at OT and never reffed them again for about 3 years. And the FA are scared that he will withdraw his players from the England setup when they need Rooney and and ilk to get the advertisers millions.
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I wouldn't mind Golloway appealling against the sending off of DJ Campbell now. He can state the Rooney case as precedent that the refs decision was wrong and he didn't take the appropriate action on the pitch as set down by a senior ref and his chief.
4 or 5 years ago the ref saw the Ben Thatcher assault on Mendes and his decision was over ridden by the FA. I will admit that that was alot worse due to the momentum of Thatcher but if McCarthy had turned his face at the wrong time it could easily have led to a fractured cheek or eye socket.
TBH the refs have been scared of offending Alex since the one gave a penalty against Manure at OT and never reffed them again for about 3 years. And the FA are scared that he will withdraw his players from the England setup when they need Rooney and and ilk to get the advertisers millions.
Absolutley correct
Makes me wonder why the fuck should we bother
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Mal, how you can say 6 of one and half a dozen of the other is incredible - of course Rooney is the guilty party- and as for dj Campbell it was the most clear sending off you could imagine , raise your hands to a players face and you are off - get real mal!
This is clearly NOT TRUE. The Wigan player has no business trying to block Shrek off - he leans in to him raising his shoulder before Shrek fends him off with the forearm smash. Clattenberg has seen it and clearly decides it's six of one and half dozen of the other. That's all folks. Better refereeing than the DJ Campbell sending off when Stearman should have at the very least been booked if Campbellwas getting a red. In the terms of the game a last warning for both players was enough.
I take it you are kidding? Have you seen it?
I suggest you watch the video. McCarthy at between 1:20 and 1:22 has a look at where Rooney is - he then puts out his left arm and leans into Rooney at the last second to block him off, off the ball. This would be a clear foul. Rooney in what in the best light could be a reflexive self protective gesture raises his arm and jumps out of the shoulder to shoulder contact.
Clattenburg at approx. 1:04 kahes a two handed side to side gesture to an unseen Wigan player AFTER he has spoken to Rooney. It is in my opinion an unambiguous 'six of one and half dozen of the other' gesture. If he saw it and that is how he saw it then no other action would be necessary. I loathe Man Ure and detest Shrek and I'm not fond of Clattenburg but on this occasion he got it right in my opinion and were say Simon Davies and James Vaughan involved no-one would have even noticed.
As for Campbell, he is fouled on three separate occasions and pushes the player away. Stearman has benefitted from cheating as indeed McCarthy would have had Rooney been shown the red card most people seem to believe he should have had. A straight red card for pushing a player away might be the letter of the law but is too harsh a punishment for a trivial offence, and on many occasions does not result in a red card. Swarbrick in my opinion does not serve natural justice by sending off Campbell - two yellow cards would have though. One might be tenpted to say that Clattenburg would have avoided all controversy by giving out the same punishment.
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Totally disagree on both counts mal and I've seen the replays many times- both Rooney and dj Campbell were guilty of violent conduct and should be punished with straight reds, they both made contact and should both have gone off ! I cannot see how you could possibly say neither should have gone - total bollocks!
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I have to disagree aswell mal.
Mccarthy blocks him off, foul , free kick to manure. Rooney sticks his help into his face, red card. If he had given the free kick to Man Utd you have a point, the fact is he gave it to Wigan so he "see's" it as a foul and not 6 of one and half a dozen to the other. You see he does not see it in the reply showing he's following the ball
DJ Campbell puts his hand in Stearmans face straightforeward red card, Stearman has fouled him and the ref may have seen it and even given a free kick. I think he should also have booked Stearman for his part in the foul
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Mal is right, the Wigan player clearly moves to try to block Rooney. However, I still believe that Rooney's reaction is violent conduct, shoving an elbow in the other bloke's face is not the only possible reaction, he could just as easily have run round him.
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How often do we debate why these sort of decisions go AGAINST Man U (or Arse or Chelsea or Liverpool)? No I couldn't think of many either.
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Mal is right, the Wigan player clearly moves to try to block Rooney. However, I still believe that Rooney's reaction is violent conduct, shoving an elbow in the other bloke's face is not the only possible reaction, he could just as easily have run round him.
whether mccarthy obstructed him is not the question here, its violent conduct from rooney and a straight red , as regards campbell he raised both hands and pushed stearman in the face -totally indefensible.
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Mal is right, the Wigan player clearly moves to try to block Rooney. However, I still believe that Rooney's reaction is violent conduct, shoving an elbow in the other bloke's face is not the only possible reaction, he could just as easily have run round him.
whether mccarthy obstructed him is not the question here, its violent conduct from rooney...
Isn't that just what I posted?
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Mal is right, the Wigan player clearly moves to try to block Rooney. However, I still believe that Rooney's reaction is violent conduct, shoving an elbow in the other bloke's face is not the only possible reaction, he could just as easily have run round him.
whether mccarthy obstructed him is not the question here, its violent conduct from rooney...
Isn't that just what I posted?
yes chris, im just saying that mal seems to think obstruction by one and an elbow in the head by another are 6 of one and half a dozen of the other , which clearly is not correct. whether rooney was obstructed or not is immaterial to the fact he retaliated in a violent manner, we are in agreement chris.
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Are they just scared to do it though? We hear about this all these double standards crap towards the big teams all the time but no one's doing anything about it. Rooney should have got the 3/5 match ban end of.
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Ferguson said 'It was nothing'
So quite clearly, that is end of the matter.
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I havent even seen the incident, so with all the talk I thought I would check for myself.
At this moment in time, its been taken down from YouTube.
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by FA Premier League.
Sorry about that.
Copyright my arse !
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Mal is right, the Wigan player clearly moves to try to block Rooney. However, I still believe that Rooney's reaction is violent conduct, shoving an elbow in the other bloke's face is not the only possible reaction, he could just as easily have run round him.
It's very harsh to call it violent conduct, which has to be premeditated. Rooney doesn't hit him he raises his arm/shoulder protectively and jumps through the block. That is not violent conduct, it's a reaction. McCarthy however has no such excuse. He made no attempt to play the ball and strikes an opponent (he makes first contact) where are the howls of protest for him to receive a retrospective 3 match ban?
Stop reading the papers or listening to the sofa and think for yourselves
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Absolute rubbish mal- you are on a wind up surely?
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Absolute rubbish mal- you are on a wind up surely?
Watch the video. Ask yourself whether McCarthy looks to see where Rooney is and then puts his arm out before deliberately blocking him. If this is so, and there is agreement on this forum that this is an accurate description of events, then McCarthy commits the first offence and is guilty of violent conduct.
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At worst mcarthy commits obstruction , Rooney commits violent conduct - seen it many times , you are talking rubbish.
As regards others in agreement with your version of events I've read the thread and find nobody who agrees with your version of rooneys action.
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Only on H & V could somebody defend what he did.
This site is truly unique.
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Mal, I have now watched it several times, it is not a reflexive action from Rooney, that would have been to push the Wigan player away or attempt to sidestep around him, he leaps into the air and plants an elbow in his head, no one reflexively reacts like that.
For me the correct decision would have been a red card for Rooney and a free-kick to Man Utd for the initial obstruction.
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McCarthy commits obstruction, Rooney commits violent conduct. It really is that simple!
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More to the point fletch - mal actually seems to believe what he's saying , a wind up I could understand but he actually thinks we are all wrong and he's right!
Your not mal clattenburg by any chance are you?
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Absolutely crazy. Surely there must be some recourse for Wigan to be able to appeal. A clear elbow. If Clattenburg seriously thinks he called it correctly then he should come under close inspection as he clearly did not see it. hopefully there will be some outcry that will invoke clause something subsection whatever of the FIFa referees charter that allows them to go back and make the right decision.
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More to the point fletch - mal actually seems to believe what he's saying , a wind up I could understand but he actually thinks we are all wrong and he's right!
Your not mal clattenburg by any chance are you?
Why does it bother you so much that he sees it differently to you?
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Come on chris, we all have differing opinions on various issues but this is pretty much as clear cut as anything gets- I find it quite staggering anyone could see the Rooney incident like that and claim mcarthy was guilty of violent conduct but not Rooney?
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Absolute rubbish mal- you are on a wind up surely?
Watch the video. Ask yourself whether McCarthy looks to see where Rooney is and then puts his arm out before deliberately blocking him. If this is so, and there is agreement on this forum that this is an accurate description of events, then McCarthy commits the first offence and is guilty of violent conduct.
Yes, Mccarthy moves in his way to attempt to block a clear run towards the ball. Rooney decides against running around him but puts him into his face. Rooney didn't instinctively put his arm up to protect himself but used his momentum to shift the obstruction. That is violent conduct. What next? Players that block players path to the ball as it goes over the byline are due a smack in the jaw because they have hindered another players progress? As you said, think about it for yourself.
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Only on H & V could somebody defend what he did.
This site is truly unique.
With all due respect yuor inference is that he did something that needs defending and it's that that I am disputing. Once the pundits have had their say with their microscopes on full beam everyone else just falls into step. I dislike Rooney intensely, but if you want to quibble about his on the pitch behaviour I'd rather something was done about his foul mothed tirades directed at the officials which happen several times EVERY game he plays. In the sunday leagues up and down the country he'd be off before half time every week. The point is that this is a nothing incident the like of which will probably happen in all 10 premiership games next weekend and none will be pored over like this.
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Totally agree with you about his foul language mal, he is a poor role model to young kids who see his petulant temper and constant swearing at officials , until a ref has the balls to turn around and give him a straight red for it nothing will change.
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Absolutely fucking pathetic decision, yes.
A surprise? No.
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this is a nothing incident the like of which will probably happen in all 10 premiership games next weekend and none will be pored over like this.
I watched four full games (one live, three on the telly) plus highlights of several others this weekend and did not see one single incident anything like Ronney's assault.
Sometimes you see a player jumping for the ball with elbows pointing, and that can be dangerous of course, but this was deliberate, I can see no other reason than he had a rush of blood to the head when he saw McCarthy moving to block his run.
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The bloke is a disgrace to the game and his Club
Man Utd should never have caved in and given him such an obscene contract.
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The bloke is a disgrace to the game and his Club
Man Utd should never have caved in and given him such an obscene contract.
You might see him gone in the summer for about £60-70mil. If they hadn't signed him to the contract he would have gone for less. It's not caving in but protecting what they will get back.
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With all due respect yuor inference is that he did something that needs defending and it's that that I am disputing. Once the pundits have had their say with their microscopes on full beam everyone else just falls into step. I dislike Rooney intensely, but if you want to quibble about his on the pitch behaviour I'd rather something was done about his foul mothed tirades directed at the officials which happen several times EVERY game he plays. In the sunday leagues up and down the country he'd be off before half time every week. The point is that this is a nothing incident the like of which will probably happen in all 10 premiership games next weekend and none will be pored over like this.
I knew nothing of the incident until I saw MOTD. I knew he stayed on as I had noticed he had scored late on. I didn't believe the ref did not give a booking at the least.
I agree with you about the swearing from him and until refs clamp down on it they will not get far in the Respect campaign as any lip reader can see exactly what he is saying every time.
You will see players block other players in most games. You will not see Rooney's reaction to it. You say you can see McCarthy move into Rooney's path. Do you ignore Rooney changing his direction of travel so he can get the hit in? And if you watch the replay there is no way Clattenberg even sees McCarthy's movement as he is facing the wing. I would have given the ref the benefit of the doubt that he never saw the elbow as he was not seeing it direct and was side on to the action. But he has the option to re-review the incident afterwards and both him and the chief have both said it is approriate action so they have given the green light to elbowing players left right and centre essentially.
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And the cnut that is Fergiscum has the audacity to moan about refs in last nights game as well - fucking typical and until the league stop making sure they dont upset the old bastard they will never lose their top perch
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I wonder how many games Joey Barton would have got added to his 3 match ban had he done it?
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Yet again the FA show they are Fergies lap-dog. One rule for ManU and another for everyone else. Spineless disgrace.
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By Dan Roan
BBC sports news correspondent
Sir Alex Ferguson should apologise for his "unacceptable" attack on referee Martin Atkinson, according to the trade union that represents match officials.
The Manchester United boss said he had "feared the worst" when Atkinson was appointed for the game at Chelsea on Tuesday which his side lost 2-1.
"The simple way out of this is an explanation and an apology," Prospect head Alan Leighton told BBC Sport.
There are strict FA rules on alleging bias or querying referee impartiality.
The FA has until 1800 GMT on Thursday to decide whether to charge Ferguson with improper conduct over his remarks.
United's manager was furious that Chelsea central defender David Luiz was not shown a second yellow card for tripping striker Wayne Rooney on the edge of the Chelsea box.
Instead, Atkinson waved play on as Chelsea surged up the pitch before awarding a penalty when substitute Yuri Zhirkov tumbled to the ground under Chris Smalling's challenge.
"You hope you get a really strong referee in games like this," said Ferguson.
"It was a major game for both clubs and you want a fair referee. You want a strong referee anyway and we didn't get that. I don't know why he's got the game. I must say that when I saw who was refereeing it, I feared the worst."
Atkinson has refereed 13 Premier League matches involving Chelsea since the 2006/07 season with the London side winning 12 and drawing one, including two victories over Manchester United and one over Liverpool.
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"And the cnut that is Fergiscum has the audacity to moan about refs in last nights game as well - fucking typical and until the league stop making sure they dont upset the old bastard they will never lose their top perch"
Fergie's moaning and Shrek being let off are related. Letting something as blatant as that elbowing go, opens the gate for arrogant 'we control you!' type remarks to be made by old rednose without any comeback.
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From the Beeb (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9415946.stm)
Fifa at odds with FA over Rooney elbowing incident
Fifa president Sepp Blatter has said the FA could have retrospectively punished Wayne Rooney for elbowing Wigan's James McCarthy.
Referee Mark Clattenburg, whose vision of the incident was restricted, only awarded a free kick for it.
The FA said that Fifa's rules prevented it from taking action against Rooney by using video evidence but Blatter said it was up to its discretion.
"They can use it in the discipline and control committee," said Blatter.
"They can impose or change a decision if a red or yellow card has been given to the wrong player. If there's violence the national association can intervene and punish a player - this is permitted at the discretion of the national association."
But FA chairman David Bernstein, who was sitting next to Blatter during a media briefing following the International Football Association Board meeting in Wales, insisted that his organisation followed Fifa's rules.
"In the Wayne Rooney situation, under Fifa regulations if the referee sees the incident - which in this case he did do - the FA has no authority except in what is called exceptional circumstances, really exceptional," Bernstein said.
"If you open the door to 'halfway exceptional' the floodgates will open."
Blatter has also urged managers - including Manchester United's Sir Alex Ferguson - to show referees more respect.
Ferguson is contesting an FA charge of improper conduct after criticising referee Martin Atkinson following Tuesday's 2-1 defeat at Chelsea.
He was angry after Atkinson failed to send off Chelsea defender David Luiz for fouling Rooney and then awarded a penalty against Chris
Smalling.
Ferguson has two matches of a four-game ban from last season hanging over him after remarks about referee Alan Wiley.
But Blatter has said that everyone deserves fair play.
"Everyone deserves fair play," added Blatter. "Respect starts with self discipline. This is what we are asking everywhere, from youth teams upwards and it is also valid for personalities.
"The higher your position, the higher your responsibility. Those that have more power should be more responsible towards others. This is a principle in life."
FIFA have given the FA the perfect opportunity there to grow a pair of bollocks and ban Rooney for that elbow, and shock horror they have bottled it.