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Title: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: The Man With A Stick on February 18, 2011, 02:59:17 PM
From WSC:
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Michel Platini wanted the Champions League final to be moved to Saturday so that more children could attend. The cheapest ticket for this year's game at Wembley is £150 plus a £26 "administration fee". So that's just for the children of Barclays bank executives, Russian oligarchs and deposed Middle Eastern autocrats, then.

£176!  Bloody hell!  Quite glad we didn't finish 4th now  ;)
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: TimTheVillain on February 18, 2011, 03:01:12 PM
How much were they in 1982 ?
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on February 18, 2011, 03:06:01 PM
Let's be quite honest, they could be £10,000, it's meaningless to us.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Risso on February 18, 2011, 03:06:42 PM
That's disgraceful.  £26 admin fee - bloody hell. 
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 18, 2011, 03:14:50 PM
I think that price is for the cheapest ticket in a neutral seat.

Not sure why there should be "neutral" seats in a European Cup final but if they are selling them they should charge a bomb to subsidise cheaper tickets for proper supporters.

I think seat prices start at about £80 for supporters of either competing team.

Which is still fucking ridiculous, don't get me wrong.

Either way, they'll end up in the hands of touts and proper fans will pay through the nose to get hold of one

And 35-40 Dutch Florins for a 1982 ticket in Rotterdam.

No idea what that's worth in "our" money
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Nev on February 18, 2011, 03:18:14 PM
The message couldn't be any clearer.

Football fans? Not wanted.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: The Man With A Stick on February 18, 2011, 03:18:49 PM
I think that price is for the cheapest ticket in a neutral seat.

Not sure why there should be "neutral" seats in a European Cup final but if they are selling them they should charge a bomb to subsidise cheaper tickets for proper supporters.

Fair point.  Unless Spurs get to the final, obviously.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: luke25 on February 18, 2011, 03:19:21 PM
It makes my blood boil, not that I have to pay it or anything but normal supporters just like us will, so wrong
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Bosco81 on February 18, 2011, 03:19:42 PM
I did fancy applying until I saw the price of them, I would love to take my lad to see Barcelona, at this rate it would be cheaper to go to Spain to watch them.

I went to the Cup Winners Cup final at Villa a few years ago, went to the Euro 96 final, and fancied adding another final to my list, I applied for the final at Old Trafford a few years ago but didn't get them.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Risso on February 18, 2011, 03:33:20 PM
That banging sound was another nail in the coffin of my interest in modern football.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on February 18, 2011, 03:43:08 PM
What a disgrace.

I wonder what Wembley's cut is
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on February 18, 2011, 03:47:57 PM
European teams generally have a poor away following compared to the big English and Scottish clubs (I think Milan had less than 10k in Istanbul, Liverpool more like 40) and so if the final is between 2 non English clubs then I would think it will be 80% corporate with a small contingent of actual fans.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Nev on February 18, 2011, 04:01:59 PM
European teams generally have a poor away following compared to the big English and Scottish clubs (I think Milan had less than 10k in Istanbul, Liverpool more like 40) and so if the final is between 2 non English clubs then I would think it will be 80% corporate with a small contingent of actual fans.

...and thats just the way they want it.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Stu on February 18, 2011, 04:11:11 PM
I posted this in the neutral games thread but here it is again: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/18/ticket-prices-champions-league-final-wembley

Look at the 8th paragraph, a big 'fuck you, we don't care' to football supporters.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: The Left Side on February 18, 2011, 04:31:10 PM
It seems they don't want fans at games, they are happy with four stands of glass fronted executive boxes and a million cameras showing every angle for the armchair fans at home.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: achilles on February 18, 2011, 04:59:16 PM
Another sad day in the annuals of modern day football!
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: E I Adio on February 18, 2011, 05:02:41 PM
Having to pay a minimum of £2 per minute would be a difficult decision for any ordinary fan to see their team in the CL final.

Two points - firstly there can be no justification for what is extraordinarily blatant exploitation and profiteering by Uefa and secondly, wtf do they need all those millions for? Don't they pay themselves enough already?
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: TonyD on February 18, 2011, 05:51:30 PM
What exactly is the £26 charge for -  pure theft.  To put it into perspective my first season ticket for the Holte cost £14.   I think we can see where football has gone wrong over the last 30 years.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: BC54 VFC on February 18, 2011, 06:52:16 PM
I think that price is for the cheapest ticket in a neutral seat.

Not sure why there should be "neutral" seats in a European Cup final but if they are selling them they should charge a bomb to subsidise cheaper tickets for proper supporters.

I think seat prices start at about £80 for supporters of either competing team.

Which is still fucking ridiculous, don't get me wrong.

Either way, they'll end up in the hands of touts and proper fans will pay through the nose to get hold of one

And 35-40 Dutch Florins for a 1982 ticket in Rotterdam.

No idea what that's worth in "our" money

Circa £11-12 based upon the GBP/NLG exchange rate at that time.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: DeKuip on February 18, 2011, 07:11:46 PM
As a 16 year old the coach trip to our first ever away game in Europe, v Royal Antwerp in 1975, cost me £12.

Maybe UEFA have looked at the way our Premier League clubs rip fans off with their pricing and thought the English will pay anything for a ticket.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Legion on February 18, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
Ridiculous price.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: theleftside on February 18, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
but hand on heart if villa were playing, you would turn down a ticket for £176.  in the heat of battle i think you would be hard pressed to find someone who would......and thats why it 176£ because we would pay it.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 18, 2011, 08:28:36 PM
That's disgraceful.  £26 admin fee - bloody hell. 

Yeah thats Captitalism with a capital "C"

If people are stupid enough to pay it and all that.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on February 18, 2011, 08:34:00 PM
but hand on heart if villa were playing, you would turn down a ticket for £176.  in the heat of battle i think you would be hard pressed to find someone who would......and thats why it 176£ because we would pay it.

Agreed - I didn't think twice about paying 70 quid for the league cup final and honestly if Villa were in the chumps league final I'd pay £176. People were buying club Wembley seats last year for even more than that and lets face if we were ever in that situation the only discussion on here would be about who are the most deserving supporters and who gets to go first in the queue.

Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Nigel Macdougall on February 18, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
I still have my receipt from 1982. £10 for 2 standing tickets and £66 for train/ferry for my brother and me. Best money I have ever spent in my life.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: TopDeck113 on February 18, 2011, 09:49:40 PM
Whilst it pains me to say it, the truth is that should one or more of the four English clubs get there, fans will pay it.

Indeed, I imagine that the professional touts - whoops - ticket brokers, will buy them up with an eye to an even bigger mark up.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: lovejoy on February 18, 2011, 10:20:01 PM
Whilst it pains me to say it, the truth is that should one or more of the four English clubs get there, fans will pay it.

Indeed, I imagine that the professional touts - whoops - ticket brokers, will buy them up with an eye to an even bigger mark up.
It pains me to say it but this is supply and demand. They are likely to sell out so they will maximise their revenues. If anything it will reduce the touts from the market as their profit margins will have been squeezed. If Villa were ever there I'd pay it gladly.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Pete3206 on February 18, 2011, 11:26:18 PM
So there you have it. Uefa beat the touts by becoming touts themselves. They are a disgrace. I bet the actual allocation for the finalists will be about 15,000 as well. Cnuts, the lot of them.

Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: hawkeye on February 18, 2011, 11:55:15 PM
just another demonstration of what has happened to the game, do the people who run the game care about the game? of course not,
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: robbo1874 on February 19, 2011, 03:08:23 AM
I think that price is for the cheapest ticket in a neutral seat.

Not sure why there should be "neutral" seats in a European Cup final but if they are selling them they should charge a bomb to subsidise cheaper tickets for proper supporters.

I think seat prices start at about £80 for supporters of either competing team.

Which is still fucking ridiculous, don't get me wrong.

Either way, they'll end up in the hands of touts and proper fans will pay through the nose to get hold of one

And 35-40 Dutch Florins for a 1982 ticket in Rotterdam.

No idea what that's worth in "our" money
[did you mean Dutch Gilders mate?]
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: darren woolley on February 19, 2011, 09:33:41 AM
When we played Chelsea at the bridge last season i got a ticket for our end off a tout cost me £110 it was my fault for paying it but i left it to last minute to decide if i wanted to watch the match and we know the score don't we bad day all round that was but if it was Villa in the Final i would pay it no doubt about it.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Lizz on February 19, 2011, 09:46:29 AM
If there's one thing that makes me metaphorically bite off my nose to spite my face when buying tickets for anything, it's admin fees.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: WikiVilla on February 19, 2011, 09:46:43 AM
Thats a disgrace

The Peoples game, MY ARSE

At least at Villa, the ticket pricing is still fair and with all the offers I can still afford to go to games at B6 albeit not in great seats. The latest hat-trick offer is great - next 3 Prem games for £60 and a £2 booking fee (where do UEFA get £26 booking fee from ???)
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Clampy on February 19, 2011, 10:57:58 AM
What a disgrace.

I wonder what Wembley's cut is

That was the first thing i thought when i heard this. The F.A are still paying for the bloody thing so i'm sure they've had a say in how much the seats are.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: lovejoy on February 19, 2011, 11:44:48 AM
To be honest I'd prefer it if they said the ticket was £176 rather than £150 plus an admin fee. Is this a tax scheme?
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 19, 2011, 12:00:53 PM
Just in case you wondered where that £26 booking fee is going..

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Uefa, which last year set up a new central marketing and commercial unit to bring its operations inhouse

My only guess is with the current economic climate, sponsorship deals are lower than expected so they're trying to make up the lost revenue.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 19, 2011, 12:08:25 PM
This £176 is for neutrals, the likes of us if we wanted to go, which we don't and won't.  £80 is the cheapest for supporters of either team which is still too much but I suppose about right when you see what is being charged for the League cup final.

I very much doubt the CL final will be a sell out if it does not include an English team.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: DeKuip on February 19, 2011, 01:14:23 PM
A good point was made on Radio Five's World Football Phone-in during the night (if you've never listened, it's always one of the more intelligent and interesting footie phone-ins, so try it on iplayer). The point was made that English football fans are well known for grumbling about ticket prices, but then paying up anyway.
I know damn well that if Villa were in the final we'd moan like fuck about the price but sell our grandmas in the end to find the money for the ticket.
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: spangley1812 on February 19, 2011, 01:17:10 PM
A good point was made on Radio Five's World Football Phone-in during the night (if you've never listened, it's always one of the more intelligent and interesting footie phone-ins, so try it on iplayer). The point was made that English football fans are well known for grumbling about ticket prices, but then paying up anyway.
I know damn well that if Villa were in the final we'd moan like fuck about the price but sell our grandmas in the end to find the money for the ticket.
I agree about that phone in, its excellent and it is available as a podcast
Title: Re: 0% Villa - CL final 2011 (Wembley) ticket prices
Post by: PeterWithe on February 19, 2011, 01:23:47 PM
If there's one thing that makes me metaphorically bite off my nose to spite my face when buying tickets for anything, it's admin fees.

Aye, £26 for a stamp, they must be using panny blacks.
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