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Title: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: alanclare on February 07, 2011, 10:24:52 AM
I mean really enjoy. When you come away from the ground walking on cloud nine. When you re-live the game in your memory and savour its highlights. It might not even be a game that we won (but it probably will be).

Perhaps it's my age, but for some time I've had this feeling of "What's it all about? Why do I put up with all this inconvenience of games on odd days at odd times? Is it really worth it?"

Am I alone in this?
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: VillaAlways on February 07, 2011, 10:30:49 AM
The last game I enjoyed was West Ham the first game of the season as it was the only game I haven't been wracked with nerves in the last 20 mins.Even the Blackburn cup game I wasn't entirely comfortable.The Man City game at home,I actually felt like I was being tortured.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on February 07, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
The Man City game was enjoyable, despite thinking an equaliser could happen at any moment.
Beating West Brom was a good one.
Blackburn FA cup was comfortable and we played some good stuff.

The false optimism of the West Ham game stands out.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: eastie on February 07, 2011, 10:35:49 AM
Probably man u at home  was most enjoyable ,  but I find unless we are 3 goals ahead I can never really fold my arms and relax- huge sense of pride after the man city game but not enjoyable during the game.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on February 07, 2011, 10:47:25 AM
After Man U I felt like hanging myself. Losing a 2 goal lead made me feel like it was a defeat.

The bit after half time was great though
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: darren woolley on February 07, 2011, 10:53:54 AM
The Man City game was the one that had me thinking about for day's after.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Simon Ward on February 07, 2011, 10:59:36 AM
Blackburn FA Cup I thought we looked in control. Really enjoyed the match for a change!
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: frank on February 07, 2011, 11:03:24 AM
I mean really enjoy. When you come away from the ground walking on cloud nine. When you re-live the game in your memory and savour its highlights. It might not even be a game that we won (but it probably will be).
Floating away from Villa Park on cloud nine is a distant memory. For the moment I'd settle for just being able to watch a game with none of the nerve-jangling tension you experience when you have a 1-goal lead with 20 minutes to go. West Ham in August was the last time I was able to relax at a home game.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 07, 2011, 11:25:38 AM
Manchester United at home 2-2.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 07, 2011, 11:27:29 AM
Tranmere at home 1994.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Chris Smith on February 07, 2011, 11:36:02 AM
Winning a hard fought game when you didn't expect to is always a more memorable experience than strolling to an easy victory so Man City for me has been the most enjoybale this season.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: JJ-AV on February 07, 2011, 11:38:48 AM
Yeah, I almost always enjoy the Villa.

Man Utd was frustrating but the positives were there. Same with Spurs and Arsenal (although less so). Sunderland was shite though.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Irish villain on February 07, 2011, 11:42:40 AM
Villa Park needs to become a fortress again. It's been too long since we were really reliable at home.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: not3bad on February 07, 2011, 11:49:58 AM
Man City was an ordeal while you were watching it but as soon as the final whistle went yes, I was on cloud 9.

EDIT: What REALLY got me about the Man City game (yes I know it's been complained about many times before) were the people who STILL giot up to leave with 5 minutes to go...
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Shrek on February 07, 2011, 11:51:48 AM
Blackburn FA Cup I thought we looked in control. Really enjoyed the match for a change!

Same here, with Bannan and Delfouneso who were both quality, yet We haven't been seen since!
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 07, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
I remember it was quite enjoyable to see us beat the Manchester United of Law, Charlton, Best 2-1 in 1966. My Dad had been taking us down a few months then and it had been mainly rubbish, we still got relegated the end of the season of course. By and large since its been rubbish, I havent enjoyed it and dont know why I have kept going for the last 45 years.

(http://letters2mindanao.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/grumpy_old_man.jpg)
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 07, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
I refer the right honourable gentleman to the first H+V of last season for my views.
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Post by: sfx412 on February 07, 2011, 12:23:13 PM
Rotterdam :)

All games are enjoyable really, some are just very frustrating
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Post by: vilan461 on February 07, 2011, 12:29:21 PM
ive gone for Man Citeh---although i have to say i dont really feel comfortable unless we have a 3 goal cushion!which is such a rare occourence,  so really i suppose its West Ham the opening game of the season,
  we just dont seem to be able to hold a blinking lead, Stoke 2 seasons ago really annoyed me,and i blooming dread the last 10 minutes which is when we seem to concede a lot of goals,i really disapprove of this sitting back inviting teams to come onto us,our wobbly defence can only make so many last ditch tackles successfully,and theres only so much pressure it can soak up,---the Brighton game last season did my head in!!!
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Pete3206 on February 07, 2011, 12:32:21 PM
The Man City game was occasional reminder that, yes it's worth every miserable occasion you endure when you get a result like that.

Apart from that, I always enjoy the social aspect before and after games. The only time I don't enjoy away games is if we don't beat SHA or some twat or twats do their best to spoil your afternoon.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Breezeblock on February 07, 2011, 12:34:31 PM
Fulham left me thinking "two points dropped"

Blackburn would have been enjoyable but for a neolithic inbred cretin and his spray-tanned missus who must also have been his sister sat in front of me who insisted on standing up at random intervals. I asked him to sit down and got everything back from "You ent a proppa fan, you ent evun gorra shirt on!" *show Villa shirt under coat* "Ahh Acorns, doesn't count!" to "Fuck off you fat ******!" *insert appropriate response from me* "Dont you fucking swear in front of my daughter you fat ******!".   I got the pair of 'em moved by the stewards but not before some other relative of theirs decided to come and have a pop at me for "neurly gettin his bruvva an sista-in lore frown out!" By this time my piss was way past boiling point and how I kept my responses merely verbal will probably cost me an aneurysm or two in the near future. C'mon people, the law that says brother and sister should not have sex together isn't just there to spoil your fun!

And breathe.

Man Citeh was good from a result perspective but not from a stress perspective. I came away from that one wound up tighter than a 10 bob watch spring.

Sunderland? Are you having a laugh? Bitter cold and a loss.

Spurs? Listening to those wankers singing "10 men, we only had 10 men" at the end was about as enjoyable as dangling my knackers into a vat of nitric acid while being anally fisted by an insane one-legged hunchback called "Wolfgang"

Baggies? I couldnt remember the score so I had to check on Pravda. That's how much of an impact that game had on me (and yes, I was there, I am a season ticket holder. Somebody would have to die for me to miss a home game).

Arsenal? Oh yeah, I love watching us get stuffed. Brings out the secret masochist in me. And Wolfgang!

After thinking long and hard the last match I can genuinely say that I enjoyed attending would have been West Ham at the start of the season. We gave them a good tonking, we played some of the best football i've seen us play, looked totally at ease and I was still under the delusion that the Jimmy Milner deal would fall through. Came away with a big grin on my face, glowing with loads of new season optimism.  Oh, if only i'd had a working crystal ball. :(
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: not3bad on February 07, 2011, 12:36:02 PM
Stoke 2 seasons ago really annoyed me

I vivdly remember standing in the queue for the train at Witton sending abusive messages to the post match thread.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Legion on February 07, 2011, 12:41:29 PM
The 2-2 with ManUre earlier this season.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 07, 2011, 12:47:32 PM
Probably man u at home  was most enjoyable ,  but I find unless we are 3 goals ahead I can never really fold my arms and relax- huge sense of pride after the man city game but not enjoyable during the game.


Same here!
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: WikiVilla on February 07, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
Really enjoyed the Ci£eh game and being there to see Bent's goal
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: andyaston on February 07, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
Felt chuffed after the Man City game.

I enjoyed the first 20 minutes against Fulham, thought we played well but, we took our foot off the gas. Had a feeling that we wouldnt win it even when Walker scored with 19 minutes left because we just didnt settle. Clarke has had a good season but he lost the ball on both occassions before they scored.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: glasses on February 07, 2011, 01:22:25 PM
Nothing this season have I really enjoyed. 20 minutes of the Man Utd game this season I suppose. The League cup semi final home leg last season was the best feeling I have had coming away from a match in my Villa supporting history.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on February 07, 2011, 01:37:42 PM
I'm generally pretty happy during the game as long as we're not losing. If we're ahead by a goal or more I'm happy to watch us try to defend that lead. I don't really relate to the fans who seem to think that attacking and increasing the lead is the only thing worth watching.

I loved the Man City game. Young and Downing were banging in good long range efforts, Bent got his goal, Barry was panto boo'd off after less than an hour and they only went close a couple of times. Most important, much more important than anything else, we won. 

Any win is great, a draw is usually OK and every defeat is horrible.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: TimTheVillain on February 07, 2011, 02:04:21 PM
The answer is 'no' !

The last time was West Ham, when we won convincingly only to see us falling apart at the seams as the season's gone on.

It has been the worst season at VP for a long time, so maybe MON was doing a decent job; albeit based on short term thinking with no 'plan B' and not many injuries to have to Manage around.
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Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 07, 2011, 03:09:23 PM
West Ham for me as well.
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Post by: supertom on February 07, 2011, 03:24:31 PM
Yeah we were brilliant against West Ham. Think that was arguably the best football we played this season too. Granted, they were fucking woeful, but at that point, things looked promising.

Also, Milner was sensational that day. We missed him so much after that. We still lack a talisman in the middle who just inspires the team. We were left with Stan fucking Petrov, and then of course spent many weeks after playing kids.

Anyway, I hope once Houllier gets his tactics right, and gets Ashley back on the left, Gabby either up top with Bent, or on the bench, and Petrov out the start line up, we'll be looking good. Makoun looks quality I must say. He's impressed me thus far.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: peter w on February 07, 2011, 04:23:40 PM
In the aftermath I am really happy with any victory. In the dumps and peed off with any defeat. Last Saturday was neither one thing or the other. Just overwhelming frustration. At least with a defeat there is an outlet for the disappointment but drawing at home against a side like Fulham is like hearing about an  failed asylum seeker being allowed to stay in the UK despite them being a terrorist because a policeman forget to cross a t when making a statement.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 07, 2011, 04:46:13 PM
The 2-2 with ManUre earlier this season.

The celebrations for Albrighton's goal were amongst the most boisterous around us for ages (admittedly, Upper Trinity, so it was mainly slightly more frantic raisings of top hats and tapping of canes, really).

It seemed to happen in slow motion, seeing Downing break and Albrighton tearing through the middle, then that fantastic cross and slap, into the back of the net. Moments like that are marvellous.

Other than that I have enjoyed watching the way we've started to pass the ball around in several other matches.

The only one i can think of which had absolutely zero redeeming feature was Sunderland, which also had the down side of being as cold as a witch's tit.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: amfy on February 07, 2011, 04:58:21 PM
I think I really enjoyed the Blackburn game. I had only had 2 hours sleep due to doing a night shift and the early kick off, but at games when there aren't so many of us there, the lower left Holte has taken to going into a quirky, slightly surreal mode.

People just shout really random stuff, & theres banter between completely unconnected people - it somehow starts to feel like 4 entire blocks of seats have all come to the match together.

"Get stuck in" girl behind us is increasing her repertorie of random shouts by the week. Occasionally she even shouts something that is connected to what is happening on the pitch, which always surprises everyone.

Anyway - I think what I mean is that I enjoy it more when I am with a crowd of fans who are prepared to enjoy the game regardless of thier expectations, and that is happening more and more this season.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: luke25 on February 07, 2011, 05:31:41 PM
The 20 minutes in the United game was the most excited i've been during a game this season, we really were a joy to watch, the best I've felt at full time was definately after the City game, the game itself was torture, as daft as it sounds i'm more calm when were behind than when were leading, even when Forssell scored to make it 4-1 in the derby I was shaking thinking they were gonna come back, in fact spend all week looking forward to the match, then the closer the match comes the nerves start creeping in, by the time we've kicked off I just want it to end
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: luke25 on February 07, 2011, 05:51:06 PM
The 2-2 with ManUre earlier this season.

The celebrations for Albrighton's goal were amongst the most boisterous around us for ages (admittedly, Upper Trinity, so it was mainly slightly more frantic raisings of top hats and tapping of canes, really).

It seemed to happen in slow motion, seeing Downing break and Albrighton tearing through the middle, then that fantastic cross and slap, into the back of the net. Moments like that are marvellous.
Actually thats a good point, that Albrighton goal and the Bent debut goal were two of the best celebrations I can remember at Villa for a long time (well that did'nt involve a derby)
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: holtepaul on February 07, 2011, 05:59:42 PM
Do you know, I am sure there must have been one since, but the lsat game I can actually remember enjoying was the Blackburn Semi Final - how bad is that !.

Man U was good, but came away so angry
Man C - wasn't enjoyable - it was agony
Blackburn cup was just soooo boring

I'm struggling, I really am. The only game that was probably enjoyable this year was West ham - and I was on holiday !
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Post by: curiousorange on February 07, 2011, 06:11:09 PM
The match that I would really want to revisit from this season is West Ham. It had everything to make a Villa fan happy...unless they were sitting in the lower tiers.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: The Left Side on February 07, 2011, 06:37:54 PM
I live in Canada so Blackburn in the cup was my first game for a year or so, I enjoyed every minute of it because I miss the Villa experience.
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Post by: The Situation on February 07, 2011, 06:39:05 PM
Man C... probably. Great game under the circumstances. New £19M striker scoring on debut, Barry getting subbed, heart-inn-mouth moments and shutting up those dirty Mancs up.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: eamonn on February 08, 2011, 01:49:53 AM
This thread could have been written a lot in MON's last two seasons - I pity the poor season ticket holders who had to put up with a lot of frustrating snoozefests. Not that this season has been hugely better or 'owt.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: Astral Weeks on February 08, 2011, 09:00:35 AM
I live in Canada so Blackburn in the cup was my first game for a year or so, I enjoyed every minute of it because I miss the Villa experience.

You probably even enjoyed the nice warm weather!
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Post by: andyaston on February 08, 2011, 03:48:30 PM
Got to be honest i'm happy after all victories. The Everton game this season felt like we had been put through the wringer though. It took a few minutes of de-stressing walking down witton lane to feel as though we'd won.
Title: Re: Are We Enjoying Ourselves?
Post by: The Left Side on February 08, 2011, 05:02:09 PM
I live in Canada so Blackburn in the cup was my first game for a year or so, I enjoyed every minute of it because I miss the Villa experience.

You probably even enjoyed the nice warm weather!

Astral, I have enjoyed the nice weather although I was freezing during the Blackburn cup game and my feet felt like blocks of ice, however I never spend 3 hours standing outside in a Canadian winter otherwise I would probably die but thanks for asking!
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